FCC Releases Hundreds of Pages of BPL Test Data, Filings:
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FCC Releases Hundreds of Pages of BPL Test Data, Filings:
The FCC has made public more than 650 pages of technical presentations,
correspondence and filings that it says it used in making its decision on
the BPL Report and Order in ET Docket 04-37. The Commission adopted new
rules to govern so-called Access Broadband over Power Line systems on
October 14, but they have not yet become effective. The ARRL subsequently
filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request that called on the FCC
to release any studies the Commission had relied upon in deciding to
embrace the technology. Some information contained in the documents has
been blanked out or redacted.
"Certain portions of those presentations have been redacted, as they
represent preliminary or partial results or staff opinions that were part
of the deliberative process," FCC Office of Engineering and Technology
Associate Chief Bruce Romano said in a cover letter releasing the
documentation December 22. "Moreover, the redacted information was not
relied on by the Commission in making its decision," Among the FCC
Laboratory presentation charts the FCC redacted was one titled "New
Information Arguing for Caution on HF BPL."
The documentation includes presentations and graphs resulting from field
tests of BPL trials in Pennsylvania, Maryland, New York and North
Carolina. The tests, conducted by the FCC Laboratory's Technical Research
Branch, looked BPL technology by Amperion, Current Technologies, Ambient
Technologies and Main.Net.
The ARRL is continuing to review the extensive documentation in detail.
ARRL Laboratory Manager Ed Hare, W1RFI, maintains that the FCC documents
tend to back up assertions the League made in its filings.
"The FCC reports clearly show that BPL operating at the FCC Part 15
emission limits generates a strong RF signal for long distances along
overhead power lines," Hare said. "The FCC data showed noise that was many
decibels above otherwise quiet ambient noise levels." Hare said that even
in spectrum notched out by BPL system providers, the FCC-provided reports
indicate a measurable increase in noise levels on amateur frequencies.
Approximately 150 pages of the documentation consisted of technical
material and presentations by FCC staffers. The remaining 500-plus pages
include correspondence, technical reports and interference complaints from
radio amateurs to the FCC. Falling into the last category is extensive
correspondence involving the Alliant Energy BPL field trial in Cedar
Rapids, Iowa. That pilot project was abandoned after difficulties in
resolving interference issues with local radio amateurs proved
insurmountable.
The FCC just this week provided additional spreadsheet data to ARRL under
separate cover. By releasing the information, the FCC made it part of the
official record in the proceeding. Some, but not all, of the BPL-related
material is on the FCC Electronic Comment Filing System under ET Docket
04-37.
In an interview January 3, OET Deputy Chief Bruce Franca asserted there's
enough spectrum to permit Amateur Radio and BPL to coexist. Franca, who
heads the Commission's BPL Task Force, spoke with Broadband over Power
Line World's Marc Strassman
http://www.etopiamedia.net/bplw/pages/bplw16-5551212.html.
"There are enough frequencies that amateurs can operate and BPL can
operate in a compatible mode," Franca told Strassman. Franca also
expressed confidence in technological solutions to any Amateur Radio-BPL
interference issues that might arise. "I'm very optimistic at the end of
the day," he said. "Technology is going to solve this problem."
In another BPL-related development, Electric Broadband LLC reportedly has
dropped out of the Cottonwood, Arizona, BPL field trial, and project
oversight has shifted to Mountain Telecommunications Inc (MTI), which had
been handling system operations for EB. The FCC issued a Part 5
Experimental license to MTI on January 3.
On the same day, the Verde Valley Amateur Radio Association (VVARA) asked
the FCC to hold up the swap and instead dismiss the pilot project's WD2XMB
Part 5 license "with prejudice," alleging the operator had "failed to live
up to the terms of the instrument." The VVARA also said it wanted the BPL
field trial shut down.
"Mountain Telecommunications Inc has been involved in the field with the
Cottonwood BPL trial since its start and has not complied with the
requirements of the existing license by promptly mitigating harmful
interference on the 60 meter Amateur Radio band," VVARA Vice President
Robert Shipton, K8EQC, told the FCC, noting that six weeks have passed
since the interference report was filed.
The Cottonwood Experimental license stipulates that the licensee "must
establish and maintain a liaison relationship with the Verde Valley
Amateur Radio Association" and respond to interference complaints "in a
timely manner."
Source:
The ARRL Letter
Vol. 24, No. 01
January 7, 2005
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by KC8VWM on January 9, 2005
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I suppose a report with hundreds of pages indicating that BPL causes interference to the radio spectrum doesn't mean that any actual interference really occurs either huh?
After all reports on paper dont cause radio spectrum interferance, BPL does.
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by W5GNB on January 9, 2005
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Well, The bigger ther report, the more accurate and TRUTHFUL the data will be......
I suppose if the report had been 1300 pages, there would be only ONE HALF of the expected interferrence from BPL..
MORE GOVERNMENT HOGWASH !!!!
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by K5UJ on January 9, 2005
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The interesting thing is that there is one BPL system that was developed in California and operates well above the HF spectrum, reportedly does not cause any of the RFI problems and really works, and it is seemingly being completely ignored in all of this.
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by N0XMZ on January 9, 2005
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In the same report, there is a slide that warns about problems with BPL, but it was "whited out" like the CIA "blacks out" information that they don't want made public when obtained by way of the FIOA. It's really kinda sad how the FCC simply refuses to accept the laws of physics. Fortunately, I seem to be hearing of BPL trials throwing in the towel almost as often as I hear about upstarts. Once the shareholders understand how expensive of a proposition BPL really is along with it's profit (?) potential, they jump ship. I've read that the BPL equipment needs a repeater on the order of every 1000-2000 feet. Just how many electric companies are willing to spend money on hundreds of repeaters just to reach a dozen or so farmers of which *maybe* 2 or 3 will sign up? Cable and (especially) fiber-optics are truly the only technologies I can think of that has the best potential to serve the rural customer. Satellites are in the game as well, so there is plenty of broadband hope for the masses without having to pollute -any- radio spectrum.
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by W1RFI on January 9, 2005
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One can download the reports in their entirety from the FCC ECFS, but there are 25 files. They consist of a combination of Power Point slides that were an internal report between the FCC Lab and the FCC DC OET staff, plus about 500 pages of correspondence between the FCC and the complainants in a number of BPL cities.
To make it a bit easier for some, the following URLs may prove easier than the ECFS:
http://www.arrl.org/~ehare/bpl/FCC_Reports.pdf -- 25 MB, just the FCC reports
http://www.arrl.org/~ehare/bpl/FCC_All.pdf -- 50 MB, the reports and the correspondence
The FCC tests show that BPL is strong along long sections of power line; that BPL will degrade spectrum near BPL systems by 30 to 51 dB or more and that notching is only about 25 dB, leaving the amount of degradation that ARRL and others have measured in the supposedly "fixed" spectrum and in one that BPL was strong enough far away from the connection point that the FCC noted that notching in one system was inadequate because the BPL manufacturer "forgot" to notch one BPL coupler 0.7 miles away.
The correspondence shows that BPL interference is very much a reality and by all the back and forth, the attempts to fix it were generally unsucessful in those cases reported to the FCC, even with the FCC nicely asking the BPL operators to fix it.
I am still going through all of those pages and finding the technical details that essentially show the same things that ARRL found in its testing.
Ed Hare, W1RFI
ARRL Laboratory Manager
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by NX7U on January 9, 2005
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"Redacted" is apparently gov't legalese for "if the facts don't fit the theory, then change the facts".
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by KG6AMW on January 10, 2005
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At some point when the violations become excessive, the ARRL along with ham radio clubs and individuals will have a nice body of evidence to support upcoming legal actions. Maybe the FCC will see this coming and will put a end to it.
KG6AMW
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by KE1MB on January 10, 2005
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All i can say is negitive information scares off investors. And i would say this counts. Without investors a project has little to stand on.
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by N2NZJ on January 11, 2005
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THE WHOLE POINT IS THEY KNEW IT WAS A FLAWED SYSTEM.and yet they passed it ANYWAY. common sense tells us if a system is that BAD AS THOSE REPORTS SHOW they the F C C should have never PASSED IT THRU.it just proves to us once again MONEY TALKS AND COMMON SENSE WALKS. so hopefully present technology and future technologies WILL BURY B P L for good. 73 TOM.
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by K7IHC on January 11, 2005
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Here's a link: http://mrtmag.com/mag/radio_technologies/
to an interesting article regarding BPL (last article on page). I get the paper MRT mag at work, and just read the story last night. Thought some here might find it interesting...
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by N3EVL on January 12, 2005
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K7IHC:
Thanks for the link. In the article the author states:
"...To date , most publicity about BPL has focused on interference concerns voiced by amateur radio operators — potential problems they claim will not be limited to their technology. Although FCC rules approved this year for BPL should virtually eliminate the interference risk, amateur radio operators claim the noise from BPL is so great that problems are inevitable..."
While he (the author) apparently recognizes our (ham radio) concerns, I'm surprised he seems to think that the FCC rules will have such a magical effect when implemented. Nothing I read gives me any such reassurance.
Another site worth following is http://www.broadbandreports.com where BPL related articles and subsequent discussions are common. It's worth reading some of the comments in these discussion groups since many of the contributors have no connection with ham radio and are often totally unaware (or uncaring) regarding the negative aspects of BPL technology. It's also reassuring that many of the responses from those with engineering backgrounds are in no doubt about the downsides of this technology. In fact, some of the best arguments against BPL that I have seen have appeared in those discussions.
73, Pete
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by KG6AMW on January 12, 2005
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The FCC is going to let this dog run awhile until neighbors get tired of scooping poop and start complaining.
KG6AMW
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by N2NZJ on January 13, 2005
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THE FCC POSITIVE RULING FOR B P L is the same as the D O T ALLOWING TRASH TRUCKS TO COLLECT MUNICIPAL WASTE THEN ALLOW THEM TO DUMPTHE TRASH ON THE INTERSTATE HIGHWAYS. in other words there WAS A VERY BIG LACK OF COMMON SENSE BY THE COMMISION. smell the money FIRST. AND H*** WITH EVERYONE ELSE A LOT OF UNFORTUNATE LAWS AND RULES are passed that way i think most of us know that and they know HOW HARD IT IS TO REPEAL ANY LAW ONCE IT IS PASSED. 73 TOM.
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by K7IHC on January 13, 2005
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Regarding BPL and the FCC:
an older ham friend of mine has said that *he* has a feeling that the FCC is stalling on addressing the morse code test-for-HF access issue and the ARRL supported *realignment* of Technician class to General class privileges because an influx of new hams on the HF band would find more BPL trials RFI and complain about it, and this wouldn't be good for the FCC.
I know it smacks of a *conspiracy theory*, but it kinda makes sense...
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