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Dead Electrical Dudes No. 18

Philip Neidlinger (KA4KOE) on April 26, 2005
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This Month's Stiff: Charles Augustin De Coulomb

Entered Mortal Coil: 14 June 1736

Assumed Room Temperature: 23 August 1806

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Coulomb

I remember my high school electronics vocational arts classes quite well. The instructor described capacitance. One of the people he mentioned during his lecture was Mr. Coulomb. Funny names stick out in my memory, as I am sure they do for other people. Unlike many other electrical pioneers, Charles achieved a respectable measure of renown in other fields quite unrelated to electricity. His work in that particular field seems almost like an afterthought in the latter years of his life.

Young Charles grew up in Angouleme in France. His parents were well established; his mother's family had quite a respectful fortune amassed. Upon reaching young adulthood, Charles was enrolled in College Mazarin, where he received a good, solid, classical education. Coulomb later undertook more advanced studies at Montpellier and subsequently joined the Society of Sciences there at the age of 20. Yet further education was undertaken in Paris around 1758. In 1761 he was commissioned as a lieutenant in the engineering corps.

Coulomb's professional life would revolve around the field of engineering for the remainder of his life, and he became a much sought after consultant in later years. Charles single-handedly wrote the book on the mechanics of friction, and he was also responsible for the construction of military fortifications and other related projects. A seminal work was undertaken in 1773, “Sur une application des règles, de maximis et minimis à quelque problèmes de statique, relatifs à l'architecture” (roughly translated - ... to determine, as far as a combination of mathematics and physics will permit, the influence of friction and cohesion in some problems of statics ), in which he used the calculus of variations in solving engineering problems. The man was simply brilliant.

Taken singly, any one of the aforementioned achievements would have put Charles in the history books. However, between 1785 and 1791, Coulomb submitted several treatises to the French Academy of Sciences which dealt with the behavior of electrical charges and magnetism. In particular, he quantified the laws that dealt with attraction and repulsion of like and dislike electrical charges by using a clever device called a torsion balance.

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Coulomb's Torsion Balance

The balance worked by measuring the very minute forces by twisting a thread as the electrically charged pith balls were brought close together. The relative twist was noted on the graduated scale at the top of the cylinder. Coulomb noted that the electrostatic force was acting as a product of the relative charges divided by the distance between the balls. In other words, an inverse square relationship was noted. Coulomb's formula for electrostatic attraction or repulsion is as follows:

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Where F = force

K = constant (always negative in value)

qa and qb are the relative charges

r = distance between the charges

Notice that the formula is quite similar to that given for gravitational attraction, as derived by Newton. The constant K in Coulomb's formula is several orders of magnitude greater than that for Newton's formula. At short distances, electrostatic attraction or repulsion is much stronger than the force of gravity. Also note that gravity is always attractive in nature.

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Where F = force

G = gravitational constant

Ma and Mb are the relative masses

r = distance between the masses

For Coulomb's work, the unit of electrical charge, the Coulomb (what else would it be?) was named after him. A Coulomb is approximately 6.24 x 1018 electrons. One ampere of electrical current is defined as one coulomb of electrons passing a given point in one second. Simple, isn't it?

Here endeth the lesson. You are dismissed.

73

Philip Neidlinger, PE

KA4KOE

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“Dead Electrical Dudes” are
© 2005 Philip Neidlinger

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Dead Electrical Dudes No. 18  
by KA4KOE on April 26, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Just subscribing to the discussion. Enjoy!

Fee-leep
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 18  
by WA6BFH on April 26, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Very good Philip!

“Coulomb noted that the electrostatic force was acting as a product of the relative charges divided by the distance between the balls.”

I have before noted that my electrostatic force, and relative charge, was governed by this same effect!

73! de John

 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 18  
by K0BG on April 26, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
I was in Paris, once, and I had a Coulomb. Tasted like chicken.

Alan, KØBG
www.k0bg.com

PS: I have enjoyed your research on the "dudes", but I think you have too much time on your hands.
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 18  
by K3ESE on April 26, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Absolutely, incontrovertably, irrevocably, unquestionably, immutably, irretrievably a dude.
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 18  
by K4JSR on April 26, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
So, Feeeeee Lep, When is Michael Moore going to do a movie on this article? You know, "Bowling for Coulomb Bine"?

And just who had the extra time to count all of those
electrons in a Coulomb? They must have had a real
negative personality!

Roses are red,
Amperes are rude,
A Coulomb through your chest
Will make you a dead electrifried dude.
"CLEAR!"

Didn't Coulomb have a girlfriend who sparked his curiousity? I think her name was Jenny Se Quaw.
She would always fix him just one egg for breakfast
because they knew that one egg was an oeuf!

Feeee Lep, I guess you would call that bit of hyperbole "The YOKE of Oppression"!

Bye now....

 
Time  
by KA4KOE on April 26, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Actually, I don't have a lot of time. That's why there was a 4 month period between DEDS 16 and 17.
 
RE: Time  
by WA6BFH on April 26, 2005 Mail this to a friend!

A pithy comment!

I wonder if a derivation could be formulated that would express such time domain considerations, relative to ball spacing?
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 18  
by W2XS on April 26, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
These have been my favorite articles. Thanks for your research. I have used them for my ELT students at a local community college where I am an adjunct.

73,

John W2XS
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 18  
by NI0C on April 26, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
From the picture, it appears this dude didn't have much hair to coulomb.
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 18  
by K2WH on April 26, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Not a chance in hell. These were very astute and remarkable gentlemen. Engineers of their time and they most certainly, were not DUDES!

K2WH
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 18  
by K1OU on April 26, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Kooky lend me your coulomb....
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 18  
by NI0C on April 26, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
I can't get all charged up about the use of the word "dude."
 
RE: Volt -Time Integral  
by K4JSR on April 26, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
John sed, "A pithy comment!

I wonder if a derivation could be formulated that would express such time domain considerations, relative to ball spacing?"

Just like any other commute---
The derive time is a killer!

Did I say that?

 
RE: Volt -Time Integral  
by K4JSR on April 26, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Yes, I did say that! And whilst not wearing a Pith Helmet!

A^2 + B^2 = C^2 is also a "Pithy-Agoran" statement!

May The Force be with you!
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 18  
by W4MAY on April 26, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Very coul!!
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 18  
by KA4KOE on April 26, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
An interesting note: Watt perfected the steam engine and defined the horsepower.

However,

As far as I can tell he didn't do anything electrical,
Just steam pistons symmetrical.
The pistons pumped up and down
Whilst Watt only frowned.

The hot mist he did condense,
And finally the problem made sense.

The work output did increase,
As the vapor was released.

And now its time to tell dear Feel-up
To cease and desist and shut-up.

Ah ha!
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 18  
by WA6BFH on April 26, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Is it true that while Coulomb was perfecting his theory, he sought assurance and validation from his peers by continually asking “how they hang ‘in?”
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 18  
by WB2GOF on April 26, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
It seems we all have an innate "capacity" for these less than witty articles!
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 18  
by K4JSR on April 26, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
GOF scoffed, "It seems we all have an innate "capacity" for these less than witty articles."

Sad but true! We are all just FARADAY weather friends! No charge for this post! The next general
electron is in 2006! At that time you can place your volt. Meanwhile, resistance is futile! Or, if you really want to DUKE it out, resistance is feudal!
Off to the beach--Serf's up!
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 18  
by KA4KOE on April 27, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Cal is really wound up....must be a hamfest soon and he's getting ready.

Pickled eggs, anyone?

:)

P
 
RE: All Wound Up and No Where To Go!  
by K4JSR on April 27, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
ME? Wound up? TICK! TICK! TICK! TICK! TICK!

I know, Philip, you haff vays uff making me TOCK!!!

 
RE: Dead Coulomb Devouring  
by K4JSR on April 27, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Alan said, "I was in Paris, once, and I had a Coulomb. Tasted like chicken.
Alan, KØBG"

How can you tell how any Parisian cooking tastes with all of those gooey sauces they like? Or was it in Paris, Texas? In which case it had to taste like the last gamecock to lose it's fight!
YOU *ARE* TOUGH, Alan! Was the Coulomb? :-D
 
RE: Dead Coulomb Devouring  
by K4JSR on April 27, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Alan, here is some more Parisian culinary artistry
for you: http://www.eham.net/calendar/details/3789

Enjoy!!!

73, Cal K4JSR (This is *ALL* Philip's Phault!)

PS. Just think---In late October you can have GHOULOMBS!
 
RE: Dead Coulomb Devouring  
by N2MG on April 27, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
I always thought a "coulomb" was a resistor that wasn't very hot.

Mike N2MG
 
Packin'  
by KA4KOE on April 27, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Took out the fudge, 'er, manpack last night and worked some guys on 40 and 30m CW from the driveway. The weather was nice and Coulomb.
 
RE: Dead Coulomb Devouring  
by K4JSR on April 27, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Mike, the amount of Coulomb resistor heating is dependent upon conventional current flow VS electron
flow. If you have conventional electron flow, the resistor stays confused. Trust me!!
By the way, Mike, did your resistor taste like chicken? Of course, if it was a carbon resistor it would have tasted like "Blackened Chicken"!
Carpe diem! (The fish pays!)

Philip, you and your greenie. Since you have become such a "Packer" fan, you will have to start wearing a
"GREEN CHEESE" hat on your head!!! Should be great at
next year's St. Patty's Day in Savannah!
73 to you and yours in the valley of the Jolly Greenie
Giant!
TICK! TICK! TICK!

 
RE: Packin'  
by WA6BFH on April 27, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Philip, when you’re out ‘Pack’in’, I guess you wouldn’t take your bug along? At least not if you are also pack’in any Deet!

Another THING, I just caught a previous comment making an aspersion about my age. Firstly I ain’t that old, and secondly my capacitor is not leaky. I can still hold a pretty good charge! It is just contingent upon Mr. Coulombs formula.

 
RE: Packin'  
by WA2JJH on April 27, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Turning pickles back into a cucumber is the act oF COULOMNING!
 
Packin' Coloumbs  
by KA4KOE on April 27, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
No, when I'm packing and mentally calculating the coloumbs per second being drawn from the batteries, I usually take along a miniature Russian Spetznaz straight key. Its only an inch and a half long, green, and very cool.

Thats what she said.
 
RE: Packin' Coloumbs  
by WA6BFH on April 27, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Hmmmmmm, I see!

Speaking of such things, it has been rumored that instrumental to Coulombs achievement was the assistance of Caroline Lucretia Herschel. Her achievements in mathematics aided Coulomb in refining his formula. She was also beneficial in various aspects of the practical experiment and technique, particularly in regard to wet electrolytic capacitors!
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 18  
by K3CXG on April 27, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Feelip:

He also had a penchant for geography, and in fact, assisted famed architect Pierre L'Enfant in laying out the plans for our nation's capital. In fact, the city of Washington is named after him (you mean you've never heard of the ...District of Coulombia?).

"Set the Wayback Machine, Sherman!"
"Roger, Mr. Peabody!"

(-:

Mike

P.S. He was indeed a dude!!!
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 18  
by KA4KOE on April 27, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Dern. That was original AND funny!
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 18  
by WA2JJH on April 27, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
lets not forget AVACADO'S number. To get the molarity
of a chemical solution.

Actually it is AVAGADO'S number 6.2X10 raised to the power of 22.

It is a good thing we only have to the constants to remember for a test.
How the heck could you memorise a variable! OK the first derivitive of any variable raised to the first power is a constant!

question what is the anti-derivative of X?
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 18  
by WA2JJH on April 27, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
I gofed on avagados number =(
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 18  
by RADIO123US on April 27, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Did he ever do any research on fan dipoles ???
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 18  
by KC8VWM on April 27, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Coulomb was often attracted to proportinally charged bodies and his wife was so repulsed by the act that he was forever divided by the distance (d) between them for many squares.

This created so much constant static in his personal life that he was inversely forced into taking a modelling career as demonstrated in the photograph above.

He later became an actor starring in the Star Trek television series as "Q" however this field created much empty space and he became very distant.

(Must have been another long day at the office)

 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 18  
by K4JSR on April 27, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Charles sed, "He later became an actor starring in the Star Trek television series as "Q" however this field created much empty space and he became very distant."
Yes, and he spent many a lonely night getting drunk at the Q BAR and munching chips! It also caused him to have a Bi-Stable love life. I guess he just needed more Data.

By the way, Philip, do not forget that other famous
Greenie who packed it in--W2NSD, Wayne Greenie!
73, I think. Cal K4JSR
 
RE: Dread Electrical Dudes? Not!  
by K4JSR on April 27, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Mike sed, "lets not forget AVACADO'S number. To get the molarity of a chemical solution."

Wouldn't that be a "Quaca Mole"???
I should know, but the Valence Band is playing so
loudly that I can't hear myself think!

Well, back to changing Gold into Lead...
So I can be solder, but wiser....

 
RE: Dread Electrical Dudes? Not!  
by KA4KOE on April 27, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
The anti derivative of X = 1 + C

 
RE: Dead Coulomb Devouring  
by WA2JJH on April 27, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Hey CALBERT! I just picked up a 'GREENIE"(mil. portable hf rig)

Get me a nice RACAL. Late 1970's electronics.
This one was taken during the first gulf war.

This lot was sold to Iraq in the 1980's. The U.S liked IRAQ back then. We did not like Iran.(I-Rock, I-ran. Same crap to me

Hey, I-Rock, I-ran,and I-gotz a RACAL.
I am fixing this this I-RIG. Perhaps I will work Feellip with his manpack greenie pig.

Mine has Arabic writtin on it. I got this for 600 bux. Story has it,....Bunch of A-10'S "LET SOME LEAD DOWN on the I-ROCKY CONVOY TRUCKS.
RESULT: lotsa D.I.S.D's (DEAD IRAQI SOLDER DUDES.) Plenty of good Alive RACALS. 20w 1-30MHZ SSB/CW.

One must ponder about coulombs equation and kinetic energy. Coulombs is static or potential energy.
1/2MV^2 is kinetic energy.

Perhaps one could say better a DED than DISD!!
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 18  
by WA6BFH on April 27, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Hey Charles (and the rest -- Hmmmm), Good ta see ya!

I myself am still a bit in shock, after viewing an mpeg file that was recently sent me via an anonymous tipster. While it was very refreshing, though bizarre, I do love Spring Showers! I’m thinking it may have been imagery from a sprightly tree hugger but, ………..

Anyway on this question of “Q”!

I have discussed this with several friends in the past. While at this particular juncture, I cannot recall the particular episodes or titles. I am convinced though that the character “Q” represented homage to the idea of a ‘low loss circuit’ in another plane of existence.

Other friends have said it was an offhanded reference to “Quantum”

I hope I don’t have to research this to make my point!
 
RE: Dread Electrical Dudes? Not!  
by WA2JJH on April 27, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Actually Calbert, it is to easy to Gold into crap.(Just let me in side your radio!

Morescientificis transmutation. You cannot turn lead into gold(alchemy). You cannot turn gold into lead.

HOWEVER, YOU DO HAVE TRANSURANICS.

ALL NUKY ELEMENTS HAVE A HALF LIFE. uranium 238 will decay into DU, DEPLETED URANIUM. WAIT A FEW THOUSAND YEARS. uRANIUM DOES TURN INTO LEAD.

p239 TAKES MILLIONS OF YEARS TO TURN INTO LEAD.
You can use cyclotrons and other devices to make radioactive isopes of iron and cobalt.

Cheese and yogarts, if you only knew the tons of good
bacteria in it you would puke.

Only a moron buys sour cream! Just let some cream sit at room temperture for a few months! OK,I did leave out pasturisation!
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 18  
by WA2JJH on April 27, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
There is that dude Q that was in STAR TREK THE NEXT GENERATION. The dudes real name is a JOHN Lancy.
He has been in a few other shows.

Soon to rumored to be "WHACKED" in Suprano's is Michael Imperioli, He was in 2 law and order episodes.
Name 3 other Soprano stars that were in Law and Order.

As for parallel universe's......I agree!
What is my lame hypothosis?

ANTI-MATTER DOES EXIST. They are created by some device
cyclotron/partical acerlerstor. Positrons are easy to make and are used in a PET Scanner.

It took MEGAWATTS to produce a few anti-hydrogen atoms or H2 molecules.
The Energy yield of the anti-hydrogen anilating with
hyrogen is still classifed.

My hypothosis is that if you start with energy equals mass X C^2, your in the right direction. HINT you have 2 mass's. To what power of C....I refuse to speculate.
If you could contain and sustain a reation....CLEAN
NON-RADIOACTIVE UNLIMITED ENERGY. PLEASE NOTE;JUST SPECULATION.
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dude ;legal and RED HOUR  
by WA2JJH on April 28, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
So FEELIPE, ANOTHER GOOD JOB "IN THE CAN". Keep doing BOOLEAN LOGIC searches to see if your work has been used by others.

Of Course ham clubs have used your articals. mine, and other eham posters. I think we all agree in the spirit of ham radio, clubs nned pay NO ROYALTY.

The OM that said he was using your stuff, is OK too.

Here is what you or any other eham poster should look for.

1)Should any of your intellectual property be incorperated with other material an sold for a fee.
THAT IS A COPYRIGHT VIOLATION. LAWYERS ARE EXPENSIVE.
PARALEGALS WILL WRITE A CEASE FORTWIT FOR $50.
I will use those certain resouces. LANDLINE PSE

Seems that if I can get 3 postings in a row, we call it THE RED HOUR.

In other words, when the thread seems to free from ANYTHING EDUCATIONAL, ANYTHING GOES.
JOKES, POETRY AND NON SEQETERS ARE ENCOURAGED.
PERSONAL ATTACTS ARE NOT TOLERATE HOWEVER.

IF YOU MUST USE ONE OF THE 6 FCC BAD WORDS, PLEASE USE AN ABBR. OR DO NOT SPELL OUT THE ENTIRE WORD.

OF COURSE THE EHAM STAFF WILL CENSOR AS THEY TOO.

PERHAPS WHEN THRED ROT VIA TROLLS ARE PRESENT, YOU COULD DELARE THAT THE THREAD IS DEAD.""THREADYS DEAD""
THATS WHAT I SAID.

FEELIP-ARE YOU DECLARING RED HOUR OR SEE IF MORE CONSTRUCTIVE POSTINGS COME IN.
PLEASE NOTE-THE RED HOUR IS JUST LIKE FAN DIPOLE ANARCY.
 
Red Hour  
by KA4KOE on April 28, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Red Hour is declared!!

FESTIVAL!! FESTIVAL!!

Submit to the will of Landru, brother!
 
RE: Red Hour  
by WA2JJH on April 28, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
festival!!!! I just hit the mailman with a wine bottle.
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 18  
by WA2JJH on April 28, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
DRINK STEAK!

rEMEMBER THIS IS A CONTROLLED EXPERIMENT IN CHAOS AND ANARCY! YOU WILL BE ABSORBED IF YOU MAKE PERSONAL ATTACKS!!

THE REASON WHY FEELIPE AND I CAME UP WITH THIS, WAS SO WE CAN HAVE A MENTAL GRAFTTI CATHARSIS.

MOST THREA ROT, WE SELF DESTRUCT THE THREAD.

ENJOY THE RED HOUR.

STUPID JOKES NEEDED! WHERE IS CAL?

DID YOU TAKR THE CITY OR THE BUS TO NEW YORK?

WHY DID THE LAWYER CROSS THE ROAD?

1)HE WANTED TO CHASE THE AMBULANCE ON THE OTHER SIDE
2)THE LAWYER WAS STAPPLED TO THE CHICKEN CROSSING THE ROAD
 
RE: Red Hour  
by WA6BFH on April 28, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Cute Philip, you have a keen memory for old Star Trek episodes!

I wrote a spoof play based on that particular episode. The villain characters used sections of waveguide as their guns, weapons whatever; and we added shields that were parabolic dishes -- with the characteristic "Andrew” lightening bolt logo!

Party on Dude! Uh, I mean Festival -- Festival!
 
Landru  
by KA4KOE on April 28, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Very good brother. Act for the good of the body. It is the will of Landru.
 
RE: Red Hour MORE 1960'S TREK TRIVIA!  
by WA2JJH on April 28, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Name the award winning episode with Joan Collins?
Ultra vintage TREK TRIVIA. Remember the episode where the Enterprise is time warped to the 1960's.
They meet another Alien with a cat,

Did you know that was a pilot for a spin-off!!!! It flopped in test ratings. So only the pilot aired.

Name the Colonel that gets an Alien to say.....HELP ME SPOCK? HINT IT IS A COLOR.

WHICH EPISODE HAD A YOUNG CANDICE BERGIN IN IT.

WHICH EPISODE HAD AN ACTOR FROM BATMAN IN IT?
HERE FOR THE FESTIVAL, BROTHER!

HOW WAS LANDEW DEFEATED?
 
RE: Red Hour MORE 1960'S TREK TRIVIA!  
by KA4KOE on April 28, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Gary Seven.
 
RE: Red Hour MORE 1960'S TREK TRIVIA!  
by KA4KOE on April 28, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Name the award winning episode with Joan Collins?

City on the Edge of Forever

Ultra vintage TREK TRIVIA. Remember the episode where the Enterprise is time warped to the 1960's.
They meet another Alien with a cat,

Thats Gary Seven.

Did you know that was a pilot for a spin-off!!!! It flopped in test ratings. So only the pilot aired.

Name the Colonel that gets an Alien to say.....HELP ME SPOCK? HINT IT IS A COLOR.

He was from the Mars Colony. The name escapes.

WHICH EPISODE HAD A YOUNG CANDICE BERGEN IN IT.

No idea.

WHICH EPISODE HAD AN ACTOR FROM BATMAN IN IT?
HERE FOR THE FESTIVAL, BROTHER!

Let this be your last battlefied.

HOW WAS LANDEW DEFEATED?

Kirk killed it with a logical argument. Spock was impressed.
 
RE: Landru  
by WA6BFH on April 28, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
In the 70’s myself and 3 or 4 other Ham's used to play a game on one of the remote base systems here in the basin. One guy in ‘the round table’ would start with a line from a Star Trek episode -- example: “Do you know what you did Jim, I could have saved her, I could have saved her!” He then passes it to the next guy, who in this example would say, “He knows doctor, ....he knows”.

Do you know the episode (it‘s my favorite)? Whats the next line of script, and which actor says it?

It was a lot more fun than it probably sounds. It helped that we were all using full duplex on 440 MHz. and we sometimes functioned up a remote radio on 52.525 MHz, so others could play!
 
RE: Red Hour MORE 1960'S TREK TRIVIA!  
by WA2JJH on April 28, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
good work feelipe!

Help me spock......COLONEL GREEN! The episode with the lava alien, Abraham Lincoln.

Spock is cast into the stone age. He almost lost his logic and sleept with Candice Bergen

Batman Villian----The Riddler. Frank Gorshin played 2 dudes. Both had black and white faces.


How about this line......I want to stay, stay, stay!

Charlie X.
 
RE: Red Hour MORE 1960'S TREK TRIVIA!  
by WA6BFH on April 28, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
I will gladly pay you tomorrow, for a Silicon nodule today!

Yer kill'in me! Uh, no, that was

"No kill I"!
 
RE: Red Hour MORE 1960'S TREK TRIVIA!  
by NI0C on April 28, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
"The anti derivative of X = 1 + C "

Go back to school!

 
RE: Red Hour MORE 1960'S TREK TRIVIA!  
by KA4KOE on April 28, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
"NO KILL I", The Horta in "Devil in the Dark".

I always remembered if you took the integral of X, all you had was the coefficient in front of the variable.
So the integral of 5x would be 5 + C. SO X, would be 1 + C. Is this correct? This math is 20 years old in my haid, and I haven't used a bit of it in my job as a EE.
 
Candice.  
by KA4KOE on April 28, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
That wasn't Candice Bergen. They look alike but it wasn't her.
 
RE: Landru  
by WA2JJH on April 28, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
BFH, you got me stumped on that episode! Give me a few hours to think. I will get back to you.
 
RE: Landru  
by WA2JJH on April 28, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
BFH, you got me stumped on that episode! Give me a few hours to think. I will get back to you.
 
Detectives  
by KA4KOE on April 28, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
My favorite TV detective was named "Coulombo".
 
Science Fiction  
by KA4KOE on April 28, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
One of my favorite authors, Arthur C. Clarke, inventor of the geostationary telecommunications satellite, lives in

Coulombo, Sri Lanka
 
RE: Landru  
by WA6BFH on April 28, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
A question.

I have been waiting throughout the ages for...... a question!
 
Guardian  
by KA4KOE on April 28, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
The Guardian
"City on the Edge of Forever" based on Harlan Ellison's Hugo Award winning story.

He hated the TV adaptation of his story, it is told.

"....all your units, wherever they may be, will be immediately immobilized."
 
RE: Guardian  
by WA6BFH on April 28, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
I have been spending the last several days working with bones, leather skins, and stone axes to make this memory unit!
 
RE: Guardian  
by KC8VWM on April 28, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
The City on the Edge of Forever (series 1)

Factual error: Edith Keeler says to McCoy, "My young man is taking me to see a Clark Gable movie."

...In 1930, Clark Gable was an unknown bit player.

 
RE: Guardian  
by WA6BFH on April 28, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Ah, but Charles, who said that line, and what was the next following line, and from which actor!

Perhaps you need some brain food? You could try some Quatro-triticaly?
 
RE: Guardian  
by KC8VWM on April 28, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
... I, Mudd

 
RE: Red Hour MORE 1960'S TREK TRIVIA!  
by WA2JJH on April 28, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
first integral(AKA ANTIDERIVITVE)OF X IS X SQUARED plus a constant C. C are you initial conditons.

I BE WRONG..PERHAPS INTEGRAL OF X IS X SQUARED/2 plus C

INTEGRAL OF SINX IS -COS(X)

the reason we re rusty is that many engineers use a program called MATLAB. IT DOES ALL THE CALC. MATLAB ALSO SOLVES MULTIPLE LINEAR EQUATIONS, AS WELL AS MATRIXES. WHY MULTILPY 2 MATRIX'S,WHEN MATLAB WILL DO IT IN NANOSECONDS.

matlab WILL ALSO GRAPH FUNCTIOMS, AND PERFORM
FOURIOUR AND LAPLACE TRANFORMS. We use matlab for enhancing images from time and frequency domain data.
 
RE: Red Hour MORE 1960'S TREK TRIVIA!  
by KC8VWM on April 28, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Heck, even Scotty used Matlab... Sheesh!
 
RE: Guardian  
by WA2JJH on April 28, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
nAME THE EPISODE. THE KLINGON YELLS .....ONLY A FOOL FIGHTS IN A BURNING HOUSE!!!

TOO BAD ENTERPRISE IS BEING PULLED OFF THE AIR!!!!!!

WHY DEEP SPACE 9 LASTED IS BEYOND ME
 
RE: Guardian  
by K4JSR on April 28, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
What is the recipe for Gorn Pones?
Nothing like a little lizzard for the gizzard!
 
RE: Guardian  
by WA6BFH on April 28, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
It is too bad!

I think that a strong moral footing came from that original program!
 
RE: Guardian  
by WA6BFH on April 28, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Cal, in the end, the Gorn was a 'limited thinker'.

What we might call an Alien-lite!
 
RE: Guardian  
by WA2JJH on April 28, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
The GORN was a reductionist thinker. He belived he was going to win.

I love the line..........CAPT KIRK YOUR ATTEMPTS ARE USELESS. SURRENDER...I WILL BE MERCYFULL AND QUICK!!!!!

lIKE THE GORN ONLY HAD THE STONE JAGGER. IF HE HAD A LETHAL INJECTION, THAT ANOTHER MATTER.

NO, THE LATEST STAR TREK TV SHOW IS CANCELLED.
THE PREQUIL.

THE FIRST STAR TREK IN 1969 WAS GOING TO BE CANNED AFTER ONLY 3 SEASONS. HOWEVER THEIR WAS A HUGE UPROAR!

SO ORIGINAL STAR TREK SURVIVED 5 SEASONS. YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS......SYNDYCATION.

AFTER YOU HAVE 5 SEASONS OF SHOW IN THE CAN, YOU CAN SYNDYCATE FOR REPEATS ON LOCAL CHANNELS.

SO SHATNER AND GANG ARE STILL GETTING RESIDUALS!

HOWEVER, THE LATEST TREK ONLY SURVIED 3 SEASONS.
NOT ENOUGH FOR 5NIGHT A WEEK PLAY.

TOO BAD, THE SHOW HAD POTENTIAL!
 
RE: Guardian  
by WA6BFH on April 28, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
In my 'minds ear', I can still hear that 'gravely spoken' line about "merciful and quick"!
 
RE: Guardian  
by KA4KOE on April 28, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
"Kirk, I grow tired of the chase. Meet me in the clearing. I will be quick, and merciful. Stop running."

Wrong Mike--the original series ran for 3 seasons only.

"When he passes, I want to cut in warp drive. We'll pivot, at warp 2, and bring all tubes to bear."
 
RE: Guardian  
by WA6BFH on April 28, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Jeez Philip, I seem to recall that but, you don't do the pointy ears or other make-up sort of stuff do you?

Your not a CW machine (well, maybe you are that too) but, you are a flipp'n warp core..... man!
 
RE: Guardian  
by WA2JJH on April 28, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
FEELIP AND I ARE NOT THOSE BOTTOM FEEDING TREKIES.
A TREKIE SHOULD BE IN THE DSM-IV.

we just like trek and trek trivia.

Something really messed up at one convention.

SEEMS LIKE STAR WARS FANS ARE SUCH LOSERS.....THEY HAVE TONS OF TIME TO GO TO MOVIES AND CONVENTIONS

IT IS TRUE THAT TREKKIES AND STAR WAR HEADS ARE BITTER ENEMIES. ALMOST AS BAD AS A BUNCH OF SOCCER HOLIGANS!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
RE: Guardian  
by WA2JJH on April 28, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
aCTUALLY FEELIP IN THE 60'S STANDARDS WERE TIGHTER.
a SEASON COULD HAVE AS MANY SHOWS AS THEY COULD SHOT.
STAR TREK DID INDEED RUN FOR ONLY 3 SEASONS.

HOWEVER BEFORE FCC DEREGULATION, AN HOUR SHOW WAS 56 -58 MINUTES LONG.

TODAY A ONE HOUR SHOW CAN BE AS SHORT AS 46 MINUTES.
THE REST IS FOR COMMERCIALS.

IN THE 60'S MOST PRODUCED ENOUGH NEW SHOWS TO FILL
LATE SEPTTO EARLY MAY

TODAY, DANG...YOU START SEEING REPEATS IN JUNUARY!!!

wHEN NBC ANNOUNCED THAT TREK WAS GOING TO BE DROPPED AFTER ONLY 2 SESOSNS,IN 1968......THE CRAP HIT THE FAN DIPOLE. MLK.RFK,and the 'TET OFFENSIVE HIT.

EVERYBODY WAS ANGRY AND PROTESTING. THERE WE THREATS TO NBC NOT TO STAR TREK.

DESI-LU productions decided to come out with as many new episodes for star trek. THEY SHOT 2 SEASONS WORTH IN ONE.

because of fcc deregulation with the lmit on commercials, and the hope of having 1 season with double the amount of STAR TREK "IN THE CAN".

THE AMOUNT OF STAR TREK EPISODES SHOT EQUAL 5 SEASONS WORTH TODAY.

WHEN YOU HAVE 5 SEASONS WORTH, YOU CAN GO INTO SYDICATION. THE ORIGINAL STAR TREK MADE OBSCENE AMOUNTS OF MONEY WHEN TAKEN OFF NBC, SYDICATED, AND AIRED ON LOCAL STATIONS.

KIRK AND SPOOK MUST HVE BEEN GYPED OUT OF SYDICATION RESIDUALS. WHY ARE THEY DOING CHEESY COMMERCILS TODAY.
 
Landru Part Deux  
by KA4KOE on April 29, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
We are the Archons!
You are not of the body?
 
RE: Landru Part Deux  
by KA4KOE on April 29, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
"Jeez Philip, I seem to recall that but, you don't do the pointy ears or other make-up sort of stuff do you?

Your not a CW machine (well, maybe you are that too) but, you are a flipp'n warp core..... man!"

No pointy ears or toy phasers. I submit to the will of Landru, brother.
 
RE: Landru Part Deux  
by K4JSR on April 29, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Philip even drives a LANDRU-OVER!!
John, Philip's Dermatologist cured his Spocks!
 
RE: Landru Part Deux  
by WA6BFH on April 29, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
I was recently told that, I am part of the body!

Festival, Festival!
 
RE: Landru Part Deux  
by WA6BFH on April 29, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Hmmmmmm, does his wife drive a beige Volvo?
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 18  
by WA2JJH on April 29, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
pLANETOID U-nada.McCoy falls in love.

The episode where spock does a mind meld trickon Kirk and says forget. Who is Kirk all broken up over.

OHH, ITS FESTIVAL!!! I JUST THREW A CHAIR THROUGH A PLATE GLASS WINDOW!!!
 
RE: Landru  
by WA6BFH on April 29, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Was there a serious explanation on this episode as to why the "Red Hour" existed? I mean some social justification for the carnage that occurred etc.
 
RE: Landru  
by KA4KOE on April 29, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
"The episode where spock does a mind meld trickon Kirk and says forget. Who is Kirk all broken up over."

What Are Little Girls Made Of?
Flint's android girl.

 
RE: Landru  
by WA2JJH on April 29, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
yES bfh. landrew was a computer and a hologram. As the
plot pans out. LANDREW was left by an advanced culture.
Unfortunitly Landerws programmed got corrupted.

Very strange computer glitch indeed. Landrew has everyone calm, nice, and civil to each other.

When the RED HOUR would hit, everybody went psychotic. During festival. anything goes. Mayhem, anarchy. looting,and criminal mischief.

KIRK breaks the Prime Directive. KiRK decides that this culture is not natually evovling.

So Kirk and Spock blow up the super computer. There was an additional plot twist. Landrew is sending EM waves that drain enterprise dilithium crystals.

SO KIRK SIDESTEPS THE PRIME DIRECTIVE. His ship would be toasted by Landrew.

One could speculate the RED HOUR was a good type of sabath. However the lines in the code went south with age,

I do know what influenced the writter of that episode.

The writter ripped off ALDOUSE HUXLEY.
Huxley famouse comment was....If there was only something that would amelorate mans inate despire of being an individual for 3-4 hours. There would also be no side effects, addiction, or create any other social ill.............................THEN MAN WILL TRULY FIND THE EARTH WILL BECOME UTOPIA!

Indeed 1960's Star Trek did deal with the prolems of the 1960's.

FEELIP EXCELLENT! YOU ANSWERED ONE OF THE HARDEST PIECES OF TKEK TRIVIA I HAD.

MORE TO COME
 
RE: Landru  
by WA6BFH on April 29, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
"Was there a serious explanation on this episode as to why the "Red Hour" existed? I mean some social justification for the carnage that occurred etc. "

...............................................


Perhaps I should have said SPECIFIC rather that serious!

The entire series followed Judaic morals, and the “Code of Hamurabi”. I was wondering if there was a SPECIFIC STATEMENT that JUSTIFIED or EXPLAINED the ‘reasoning’ behind Red Hour.

I would find it difficult to believe, knowing the theme of the series very well, that this would have been missed or omitted!
 
RE: Landru  
by WA2JJH on April 30, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
ok. LANREW WAS INITIALY THE MORALS AND CONUCT OF THAT ENTIRE CULTURE.

PEOPLE WERE CONTROLLE BY LANDEW VIA TELEPATHY OR AN ULTRA TINI MICRO-WAVE LINK.

LANDEW WAS GOOD WHEN THE CREATORS LOADED UP THE ORIGINAL SOFTWARE. THERE WERE THESE METAPHASIC GOONS THAT WERE THE POLICE MEN.

THE PEOPLE WERE KIND AND TAME. THE SOURCE CODE GOT CURRUPTED IN A FEW THOUSAND YEARS

IT WAS NEVER MADE CLEAR WHAT THE RED HOUR WAS ORIGINALY. MOST BELIEVE THE RED HOUR WAS A DAY OF WORSHIP.

THE CORRUPTED SOFTWARE HAD THE RED HOUR AND THE DIALY
FESTIVAL TO BE TOTAL LOSS OF MORALS.

LOOTING,PILLAGING, AND OTHER HIGH CRIMES AN MISDEMENORS
WERE CONSIDERED NORMAL FESTIVAL BEHAVIOR.

nEXT DAY EVERYBODY IS ALL PEACEFULL AGAIN.
A RATHER WEAK PLOT I BELIEVE IT WAS THE THIRD SEASON, AND THEY LOWERED PROUCTION VALUES.

IN FACT 3 EPISODES HAD THE SAME THEME, DIFFERENT PLOT
KIRK DECIDED THAT SINCE THIS PLANET HAD NOT MADE ANY EVOLUTION IN A FEW THOUSAND YEARS, LANDREW HAD TO BE TERMINATED. BESIDES LANDREW WAS GIVING SCOTTY ALL SORTS OF ENGINEERING PROBLEMS. MANY WERE FATAL!
 
RE: Landru  
by KA4KOE on April 30, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
I may have been wrong on that episode with Flint and the android babe. I think it may have been the one where they made a copy of Kirk out of bread dough and spun it for awhile. The big guy, Cassidy, played Lurch on the original Adams Family.

Philip
 
Tar Baby  
by KA4KOE on April 30, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Tasha Yar, in Star Trek, The Next Generation, was killed by the alien that we affectionately refer to as "The Tar Baby".
 
RE: Tar Baby  
by WA2JJH on April 30, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
TASHA YARS REAL NAME IS DENNIS CROSBY. SHE IS RELATED TO BING CROSBY.

see hollywood works! She bailed early on her 5 year contract. Her acting career is now toast!
 
RE: Tribbles...overated!  
by WA2JJH on April 30, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
The trouble with tribbles was awarded one of the top 10
ivintage trek.

I thought the episode sucked!

The later Star Treks, TNG, DS-9, and the soon to be terminated Enterprise are scientificly accurate.

It started with TNG. The hired Scientist and Engineers as cnsultants.

Vintage TREK was ultra low budget. I love those styrfoam ROCKS, MOUNTAINS, and the boulders KIRK threw t the Gorn.

Matter/antimatter reactions have been created in labs.

The p.e.t scanner is a matter/antimatter anilation.
Positrons are electrons with a positive charge. Thus a Positron is antimatter.

A p.e.t. scanner shoots positrons at the body. Two electrons are created by the reaction.

A device called a coincidence detector has a very tight time window. To make sure they are mapping the aniliation and the 2 electrons scttering at exactly 180 degrees, events have to occure during the time window.
A p.e.t. scanner is more of a metabolic picture of the brain.

Livermore labs will still will not give the energy yield of a hydrogen/antihydrogen explosion/aniliation.

All scientist are convinced the yeild on a mass vs yield ratio of a matter/antimatter reation is far greater then a hydrogen bomb.

one perdiction was a kilogram of antihydrogen with one kilogram of hydrogen would destroy the entire earth.

It takes 12-20lbs of P239 for a Nagasaki 20 kiloton
fission bomb.

I came up with an equation for what I thaught
matter/antimatter yeild. HOWEVER I WOULD NEVER PUBLISH IT!!

sTAR TREK WAS RIGHT ABOUT THAT TOO. IF ONE COULD GET A SELF SUSTAINING REACTION OF HYDROGEN AND ANTIHYDROGEN......SAY GOODBY TO OIL!!!!!!

Vintage Trek used dilithium. Which is a total joke.
lithium is a reactive metal. If you ever crack open a lithium battary you could die!!!!!!
Lithium metal combusts with hydrogen.

In fact the very first lithium batteries are banned world wide. Lithium ion is safer, but has far less power density.

OK ANYBODYS GAME, DEAD DUDE FEATURED(CUCUMBERLOM), SCIENCE, TREK TRIVIA, LAWYER JOKES WELCOME TOO!!!!!!
TRIVIA!
 
RE: Tribbles...overated!  
by WA2JJH on April 30, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
HOW MANY LAWYERS DOESB IT TAKE TO PAVE A ROOF??????




DEPENDS ON HOW THINLY YA SLICE EM!!!!!!
 
RE: Tribbles...overated!  
by WA6BFH on April 30, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
I think that at about 19:22 hours this evening (California time) I was caught in a Tholian Web!
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 18  
by N5IHS on May 1, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
I enjoy your series very much. Keep 'em coming. Your writing style fills us full of facts, and we enjoy the process of learning a whole lot more than we are used to!!

Thanks again.
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 18  
by WA2JJH on May 1, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Do not worry. Philip has more.
I am trying to get Philips D.E.D. series produced into
a High School and a Grammar school book.

Problem is that fewer American students entering engineering schools IS AT A ALL TIME LOW!

Many talk about "THE DUMBING DOWN OF ree'sHAM RADIO"
It is a symptom of a larger problem that NOBODY is doing anything about.

The dumbing down of educational standards. Math and physics are not taught well at high school to Masters of science level.

America is outsourcing too much! We allow all too many from american hating nations to earn science degrees!

The University I just got Masters in Bio-medical engineering is filled with 30 year old PHDs. They do all the post doctoral workk! They work for $10 bux/HR!

The school is mostly students from Tiawan, most of the terrorist sympathiser nations. By far the worst are the Ex-easten block nations.

I hear anti-AMERICA crap all day at Poly Tech. They all steal intellectul property. All the forein students
refuse to study with Americans.
We have Iranians getting BIO-ENGINEERING degrees. The Russians ad Eastern Blockers are the most racist people I have ever met. WHY THE "F" did we liberate those snots.

BEFORE YOU CALL ME A NUT JOB, HEAR ME OUT.
There was this Falafel place across the street from me
He was Arabic and the storewas open 24/7.
All night we would see Arabic Taxie cabs passing packages in and out.

The Police raided the Falafel place in the summer of 1999. They found $25,000 cash, a few hand guns, and pro-BEN LADIN AND HAMMUS news papers.

They were back in business the next day. "MR Terrorist Falafel were back in business the next day.
So was the drug paraphenelia store accross the street from a school after a police raid.

NOBODY WANTED TO HEAR WHAT OUR BLOCK ASSCIATION SAW!

The falafel place was raided again after theie lease expired. The man that owned the building got death threats to renew the Falafel store permits.

The raid...more cash, guns, anti-American and death to Jews stickers. During the raid the falafel dude opened the gas pipe. Fortunitly he forgot to bring a lighter.

Someone after the raid tried to report the taxi cab
info. The response from the SGT was........Oh yeah,what do you think moron, you they are going to blowup Mew york or something????
the "or something'' was 9/11 two years later!

Oh guess what....The police did raid the drug paraphenalia store 4 days after 9/11. They found pro BEN LADIN posters with a stash of Hashish.

On a lighter note. It has been shown that STAR TREK
FANS have a more professional audiance than STAR WARS FANS.
However STAR WARS movies are block busters. The STAR
TREK MOVIES FLOP!
THE NEW STAR TREK ENTERPISE TV SHOW IS OVER IN TWO WEEKS. THE SHOW LASTED 2 SEASONS.

TO ME THIS S MORE PROOF OF THE DUMBING DOWN OF AMERICA!!!!! cIRCULR REASONING PERHAPS!

MAYBE THE THEOLIANS HAS ENCASED THE TRILATERIAL
COMMISSION IN A GIANT WEB! JUST AS WELL....WE ARE IN A THEOLIAN WEB OF SELF DILLUSIAN1

 
Festival Part Deux  
by KA4KOE on May 2, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Search thy heart, brother.

We are running out of dudes. When this happens, we shalt not grieve but rejoice at their conclusion and celebrate FESTIVAL!

It is the Will of Landru!
 
RE: Festival Part Deux  
by WA6BFH on May 3, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
But Brother, you take the view too narrow!

There are still many, many dudes, of science!

Some only recently departed!
 
RE: Festival Part Deux  
by WA2JJH on May 3, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Bother Philip goes to Festival too much. He shall be absorbed.

Sincerly Landru
 
RE: Festival Part Deux  
by WA6BFH on May 3, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Mike I agree with your views on the Star Trek series, as it impelled and promoted the sciences! You must remember though that the task was easier then. We had an active space program that was not fearful of flying missions. We did not crash spacecraft into Mars, or make other mathematical errors that would prevent space telescopes from being properly focused! When problems with the Apollo project occurred we fixed them, and got our men back alive!

These days such a program is more difficult to sell. It has to have not only an intellectual component but, somehow also a mystical bent. A fervor or obsession for mysticism is one of the indicators of a society in decline! Remember too that there was also a very strong moral message in the earlier episodes. It was a good time to be a scientist or engineer. These disciplines had purpose, purpose of action. Skilled and talented people were appreciated!

Maybe we need sort of a “House” program where the protagonist character is not a doctor but, an engineer!
 
RE: Festival Part Deux  
by WA2JJH on May 3, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Maybe we need sort of a “House” program where the protagonist character is not a doctor but, an engineer!

I agree with all you views, except I do not undertand
what is a "house doctor'' and what kind of program you are talking about

Getting back to trek/space exploration.

problems that have to be overcome.

We Are in the stone age with space. In fact if you compare the evolution of IC's vs space, we id not progress much since Werner von brains V1 ROCKET.

lIQUID OXYGEN/HYDROGEN ENGINE, max speed 25,000 MPH
That is the escape velocity. Of course once in space you get a free ride because of no friction.
The space shuttle travels at 17,500 to maintain orbit.

The max speed is the chemical energy one can obtain from o2 and h2 combustion.

Then we have E is MC squared. Ironic that that formula perdicts how much P239 or U235 will yeild in a bomb.

It also shows us that as we approach the speed
of light, the space craft increases in mass and the amountof energy for required speed is infinity.

Any type of Star Trek like velocity is impossible according to physics. Even at light speed, it would take 5 years to reach the next solar system.

ION propulsion is very promising. As you know with no gravity of air friction a mass that is accelerating
will continue to do so.

Funny, we get zero news reports about the ION drive probe we sent out a few years ago. It has a radio-active isotope. Nuetrons are emitted. The probe was supposed to start from standard chemical rocket to escape earths gravity.

The probe initial free space velocity is that of the escape velocity. THE ION ENGINE starts emitting particles. For a period of time the Ion Drives does not add to the initial velocity or accelerstion
After a few months enough paricles will add to acceleration and speed.

The Maximum speed this ION drive is unknown.
Perhaps 200,000 MPH are some guestimations. At high speeds if the craft hits a tiny object in space, KAHBOOM!
They do not know what the maximum speed the craft can reach. The advantage is that after all the radio active fuel reaches its half life, the mass of the craft is reduced.

However even at 1/2 light speed the mass will increase towards infinity the closer the craft gets to light speed. The amount of fuel required will appoach infinity too.

One plan was to detonate a cleaner hydogen bomb to propel a craft. ONE BIG PROBLEM. The propulsion system would have to be located by a "spacer" miles long.

WE ARE MILES AWAY FROM PRACTICAL SPACE TRAVEL.
To travel with in our solar system would require a velocity of 1/2 million miles per hour. This is a velocity where The derivitive formulas of relitivity
would have minimal effects.

Space,time,mass, and energy are put in very simple
terms in a book call Enochian PHYSICS.

The book starts with basic physics, EINSTEIN and astrophysics are put in simple to understand terms.

The Book then gets intro metaphysics. Which I consider not definable.




 
RE: Festival Part Deux  
by WA6BFH on May 3, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Ah Grasshopper, your studies did evidently not include philosophy! It depends upon what metaphysics you’re interested in? We have salted and plain. We have plane and slightly warped, although some prefer to call them curved!

I think the one project that seemed to provide the most promise was “Project Orion”. Ted Taylor and some of the guys in San Diego built a proto-type and it worked pretty well. They kyboshed the project though because of the 1970’s Nuclear Arms Treaty. Well, we don’t have to worry about that anymore!

I referenced the book, “The Curve of Binding Energy” to Feeeleeep recently. Have you read that? The author is John McFee.
 
RE: Festival Part Deux  
by WA6BFH on May 3, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Oh, "House" is a TV show that airs Tuesday evenings on the Fox Network. 21:00 local time in California, 20:00 hours Central time. You should check it out!
 
Plain or Salted?  
by KA4KOE on May 4, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Nukes also come plain and salted too. Salted in this case refers to a cobalt jacket around the device to make it fallout intensive with long half life radioisotopes. Nasty stuff.
 
RE: Festival Part Deux  
by KA4KOE on May 4, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Nukes also come plain and salted too. Salted in this case refers to a cobalt jacket around the device to make it fallout intensive with long half life radioisotopes. Nasty stuff
 
RE: Festival Part Deux  
by WA6BFH on May 4, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
I was referring to only meta-PHYSICS but, I take your point.

You should read that book!

If you set it on your bookshelf, you will find that it seems to want to take a certain lean or slant to the left but, it is a good read anyway!
 
RE: Plane or Salted?  
by WA6BFH on May 4, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Also, you get a C- for spelling.

I hate it when my humor is ignored!

Now, put on your Landru hood, and go stand in the corner.
 
RE: Plane or Salted?  
by KA4KOE on May 4, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
What did I spell incorrectly?

Anyway, since this article is fixing to go off the front page, and be consigned to Clinton's (AD7RG) version of electronic oblivion (love that phrase o' mine), you're not being ignored.

Relax, its only radio.

Feeleeep
 
RE: Plane or Salted?  
by WA6BFH on May 4, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
plane vs. plain
 
RE: Plane or Salted?  
by KC8VWM on May 4, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Look Boss, it's de plane, de plane....
 
RE: Plane or Salted?  
by WA6BFH on May 4, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Every time though that I try and spot it, it seems to be somewhere else.

Almost on another plane of dimension!

Or, is that a plane of dementia?
 
RE: Plane or Salted? ARE YOU OCD-AR?  
by WA2JJH on May 4, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
SPELLING AND GRAMMAR ARE SELDOM A FORTE FOR ENGINEER'S

PEOPLE THAT ARE SO PICYUNE TO POINT OUT SPELLING ERRORS
FIT THE PARAMETERS OF A FEW PSYCIATRIC DISORDERS IN THE DSM-IV.

1)OCD-AR PRIMARY AXIS
2)SECONDARY INFERIOR COMPLES DIS-ORDER.
3)SUB-ACUTE SAVANTISM
4)PRIMARY NARCISISM
5)SECONDRY AXIS 5 LOWER THAN AVERAGE G.A.F
6)PRIMARY TRANSFERENCE ISSUE'S

SPELLING AND GRAMMAR ERRORS CAN BE CAUSED BY

1)A.D.H.D ADULT ATTENTION DEFICITE DISORDER.
2)SUB ACUTE DISLEXA
3)TYPING WHILE DRUNK OR UNDER THE INFLUENCE
OF NARCOTICS OF THE OPIATE/OPIODE TYPE.
OR INPROPERLY CALLED NARCOTIC BARBITURATE OR BENZODIAZAPIN TYPE MINOR TRANQUALIZERS
4 SIMPLY THE WILL OF LANDRU!

I HAVE SUB ACUTE DYSLEXIA AND ADHD. HOWEVER I DID EARN A B.S.E.E. BA IN PSYCH, A MASTERS IN BIOMEDICAL ENGINEERING. SOON TO BE A POST GRAD FELLOW.

i AM IN A phd PROGRAM TO GET MY DOCTORATE IN BIO-MEDICAL ENGINEERING.

SO ALL THOSE THAT RAG ON MY SPELLING SHOULD GO SEE MY COMPLAINT MANAGER HELLEN WAITE.
IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MY SPELLING AND GRAMMAR,YOU CAN SIMPLY GO TO HELLEN WAITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
RE: Planed A- Salted with cobalt one the beach bus  
by WA2JJH on May 4, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
YOU HUMOR WAS NOT IGNORED. HOWEVER WHEN HUMOR IS ULTRA FUNNY,I BETTER NOT BE DRINKING PIPING HOT COFFEE.
I GOT A CHUCKLE, HOWEVER MY NOSTRILS DID NOT GET A FIRST, SECOND OF THIRD DEGREE BURN.

I USED TO DO STAND UP COMEDY, SO IT IS HARD TO MAKE ME HAVE A BELLY LAUGH.

I STOP DOING STAND-UP CAUSE I WAS TOLD TO SIT DOWN!
HOWEVER IF THE CLUB HAS A 10 DRINK MINIMUM, I DO VERY WELL!!!! :)
 
RE: Planed A- Salted with cobalt one the beach bus  
by WA6BFH on May 5, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Ok, Ok, I will change his grade.

I will give him a C-squared!

73! and Happy Cinco De Mayo

Festival, Festival!
 
RE: Planed A- Salted with cobalt one the beach bus  
by WA2JJH on May 5, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
AS YOU KNOW LOGS ADD WHEN MULIPLIED. THUS A C- SQUARED
IS ONLY A B-!

YOU WILL ABSORBED!
SINCELY LANDRU
 
RE: Planed A- Salted with cobalt one the beach bus  
by WA6BFH on May 5, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
I meant that to be C squared.

I blew my own joke!

Grumble $&!#, SIN, COS, grumble futz $&!#......
 
RE: Landru Part Deux  
by KB2VXA on May 5, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Hi Trekkies,

Funny how this mess all started with a part of EE I never quite understood back at NCE (now NJIT). Well, the parties were cool, wouldn't doubt the writers for Animal House lived on Frat Row.

Since you're going on about those original ST episodes, don't forget to catch the closing of Enterprise. Lot's of old props, characters and subject matter showing up, never knew a Gorn liked to bite the heads off those expendible crewmen.

"I'm for you Moldanato, I see you're wearing a red shirt."

"BONES, that's not NANCY!"

"I'm trying to make a nemonic memory out of stone knives and bear skins."

"He uh, got his head caught in a mechanical rice picker."

"I am Nomad, I am perfect. That which is not perfect must be sterilized."

"Captain, I'm picking up a signal... a carrier wave modulated by a simple binary code... radio."

Catch you on subspace channel D.
73 de KB2VXA
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 18  
by K3CXG on May 5, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Klaatu barada dictu!

Live long and perspire...
Mike
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 18  
by KA4KOE on May 5, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
"Gort Klatu Berada Necto"

At which point she screams and falls down in typical 50s Hollywood fashion.

Gort - Robot: Name that actor

Klatu - space alien : Name that actor
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 18  
by WA6BFH on May 5, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
I thought that the robots name was Robbie?

Also, as I remember it, he was a very understanding sort of robot!

Of course, after I took that Krel mind boost, my synapses haven't been quite right.

Beware of the Id!
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 18  
by WA2JJH on May 6, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
LOOKS LIKE THE THREAD IS DEAD. THATS WHAT HE SAID.

STAR TREK ENTERPRISE IS LEAVING THE AIR TONIGHT ON UPN-9.
GEDEG
THE VERY PROMISING PRE-QUIL TO THE 1968 STAR TREK HAS STOPPED PRODUCTION.

TONIGHT IS THE NIGHT. A DOUBLE EPISODE FIANLE


LETS HOPE THAT PUBLIC PRESSURE WILL FORCE PARAMOUNT TO PRODUCE ANOTHER SEASON OR TWO.

tHERE HAS BEEN SOME ORGANISED PROTESTING.
THIS TACTIC WORKED IN 1968. WHEN ORIGINAL TREK WAS MOVED TO THE DEAD NEALSON DAY AND TIME.
10PM FRI.
mORE EPISODES WERE THEN PRODUCED AFTER TONS OF MAIL CAN IN FROM ENRAGED FANS!!!!

PERHAPS THE SAME WILL HAPPEN. THE PREQUIL WAS SCIENTIFLY CORRECT. LIKE ":DEAD ELECTRICAL DUDES,
THE FORMULA OF EDUCATION MIXING SCIENCE WITH ENTERTAINMENT WORKS!

IF YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN WILLED BY LANDRU TO WATCH THE NEW ENTERPRISE SERIES. TONIGHT IS YOUR LAST CHANCE.


LIVE LONG AND PROSPER----MIKE WA2JJH
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 18  
by WA2JJH on May 6, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
LOOKS LIKE THE THREAD IS DEAD. THATS WHAT HE SAID.

STAR TREK ENTERPRISE IS LEAVING THE AIR TONIGHT ON UPN-9.
GEDEG
THE VERY PROMISING PRE-QUIL TO THE 1968 STAR TREK HAS STOPPED PRODUCTION.

TONIGHT IS THE NIGHT. A DOUBLE EPISODE FIANLE


LETS HOPE THAT PUBLIC PRESSURE WILL FORCE PARAMOUNT TO PRODUCE ANOTHER SEASON OR TWO.

tHERE HAS BEEN SOME ORGANISED PROTESTING.
THIS TACTIC WORKED IN 1968. WHEN ORIGINAL TREK WAS MOVED TO THE DEAD NEALSON DAY AND TIME.
10PM FRI.
mORE EPISODES WERE THEN PRODUCED AFTER TONS OF MAIL CAN IN FROM ENRAGED FANS!!!!

PERHAPS THE SAME WILL HAPPEN. THE PREQUIL WAS SCIENTIFLY CORRECT. LIKE ":DEAD ELECTRICAL DUDES,
THE FORMULA OF EDUCATION MIXING SCIENCE WITH ENTERTAINMENT WORKS!

IF YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN WILLED BY LANDRU TO WATCH THE NEW ENTERPRISE SERIES. TONIGHT IS YOUR LAST CHANCE.


LIVE LONG AND PROSPER----MIKE WA2JJH
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 18  
by WA2JJH on May 6, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
VXA, THANK YOU FOR YOUR KIND WORDS. TNX FER STICKING AROUND EVEN DURING DEATH THREAD ROW!

THE D.E.D.SERIES TO HAVE INVOLVED INTO A STANDARDISED.

AS YOU NOTICED,THE FORMAT OF THE DED SERIES IS AS FOLLOWS...


PHILIP KA4KOE WILL WRITE AN UNUSUAL,FUNNY BUT FACTUAL,
EVEN IRREVERENT BIOGRAPHY.

THE E-HAMMERS HAMMER AWAY.
WITH FACTS,SCIENCE,ELECTRONICS, WHAT IF MONTHS STIFF WAS A HAM.

WE DO HAVE ONE RUNNING JOKE. K2WH WILL SAY...THEY WERE NOT DUDES! COPY CATS HAVE APPEARED OVER THE MONTHS!!!!

A FEW SHOOT BACK .........GET OVER IT....THEY WERE DUDES! YOU CANNOT CHANGE A NOBLE TRUTH, IMMUTABLE FACT,
A GEOMETRY POSTULATE, THE 5 LAWS OF NEWTONIAN PHYSICS,
THERMODYNAMICS OR THE FACT THEY WERE DUDES!!!!

WHEN PHILIPS DED IS NO LONGER LISTED ON THE FRONT PAGE OF E-HAM.....IT IS FESTIVAL!!!!!!!!!!

ALL SORTS OF JOKES, POEMS AND UNIQUE NON-SEQUETERS
ARE WILLED BY LANDRU.

YOU IT ALL...THE GOOD, THE BAD, AND THE UGLY AND LOTTO LOSERS.
 
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