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Build Your Own 'Rolling Station'

Do not contact (N4ZOU) on June 20, 2005
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Do you like to operate portable or as a rover but hate sitting in your Automobile or Truck? Have you looked at the latest RV's and noticed how expensive they are? Yikes! Modern Campers come in two forms, Pop-ups with canvas sides so your light duty automobile or truck can pull them and the hard side Camper that requires a heavy duty tow vehicle that is expensive to buy, gets lousy fuel mileage, and you hate to drive even when pulling the Camper. My Father had a Pop-up when I was a kid; we figured out really quick that you might as well be in a tent when it's raining or the wind is up. They require some setup time so for portable or rover ham type operation they're not suitable. The huge Campers are just too much work for a weekend much less a short trip over a county or state line to be that "rare rover station". For me an RV is just out of the question for several reasons. Initial cost, fuel mileage, Taxes (In Alabama an RV is considered a home that just happens to be mobile so the yearly property tax would be $1,200 a year in addition to the road usage tax and tag.), and finally the size and where to park the thing between trips. Most HOA's would not let you part the RV on your property so you would need to park it in a storage lot and incur even more ownership costs. So what's the solution? Easy! Build yourself a Teardrop or "Can of Ham" Camper! (NO, The term "Can of Ham" has no relation to the use of this type of camper for use by Ham's!) These Campers were popular starting in the 1930's and were home built from articles in Magazines of the time. It's didn't take long for commercially made campers to hit the market soon after due to their popularity. Would you like a look at some of these articles? No problem! Here is the link.

So what's the difference between a teardrop and a Can of Ham camper? Not much as length is concerned but the Can of Ham is obviously larger in size. A teardrop simply looks like a drop of water and a Can of Ham looks like the Can of Ham you would buy in the grocery store.

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Here is a picture of a classic teardrop. Check out the tow vehicle, a 1950's era "oval window" 36 HP VW Beetle! Two people can sleep up front (if they're really friendly) and a kitchen is in the rear under a lid. A dedicated Ham would replace the kitchen equipment with an amateur radio station! Some of the new Teardrops can be towed with a Motorcycle!

A Can of Ham camper is a little larger and the kitchen is located inside and also has standing room. Here is a typical Can of Ham camper.

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This camper is going to require a tow vehicle with more power than a VW Beetle but its weight is less than 1,000 Lbs. so the tow vehicle requirements are not very high. The "comfort" level is much better than a Teardrop and well worth the extra weight if you do overnight camping and "rover runs". Best of all there's plenty of room inside the camper so foul weather won't hamper your operation. In both cases these campers are small enough that they can be parked in a standard garage. This is critical if you live under the requirements of a HOA. Building your own Teardrop or Can of Ham will allow you to install antenna transport and support brackets. Don't want to build your own? No problem! The old saying of History repeat's itself, what's old is new again, and what goes around comes around again shows these truisms to still be with us. Teardrops and Can of Hams are becoming as popular again as they were in the 20'Th century! Check out this Modern Teardrop made from plans available from http://www.kuffelcreek.com/teardrops.htm

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Another site that has teardrop plans for sale.

They also have plans available from all the old magazine articles, which includes the larger Can of Ham campers. There are simply too many sites to list with plans and kits so a google of Teardrops or Home made Campers and other search terms will have you looking at Camper articles and information for days! Don't care to build your own? No problem! Check this site to links of manufactures of modern Teardrop campers. Some links are good and others are not, just click and find them as you can. Not all manufactures are listed so google for them.

Want something larger? Maybe a lot larger?!

The link below will take you to an area where you can obtain scans of complete books on the subject of trailers. Don't even think of trying to download any of them on a dialup connection! Even with a high-speed connection it's going to take a while.

Before you go out and buy an old camper there are some things you should know. First of all that old camper might have rotten wood that you can't see due to the way they're built. It can leak and the water drains between the roof and interior paneling and drops out the bottom for years and you never see it until the entire structure falls in. Parts availability, enough said about that when you're talking about anything that's over 20 years old. Safety devices on old trailers maybe non-existent or the steel frame of the trailer is rotten and rusted away. If you've just got to have that collectable Serro-Scotty Sportsman http://homepages.wmich.edu/~kroes/scottys/ Can of Ham camper be prepared to completely dissemble it and replace almost everything even if it looks fine sitting in that yard with the "For Sale" sign taped to it! If it was in good shape after all count yourself lucky. How do I know this? Yes, I bought a 13' 1961 Serro-Scotty Sportsman with classic " rotten roof drop". It took over 200 hours of labor (It's a good thing I am retired) to repair it and around $500 of wood, aluminum sheet, and hardware. I am happy with it but building a Teardrop from scratch would have cost me less money. Then again, wherever I tow my Can of Ham camper everyone wants to see inside and the antique car and Hot Rod people turn green with envy.

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Build Your Own 'Rolling Station'  
by KA0GKT on June 20, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
For those who wish a bit more room, and still tow with something less than a full-up SUV, you might consider the original silver torpedo, the AIRSTREAM.

Before you get upset, seeing those dollar signs with wings, consider that the all aluminum trailer has been made since the late 1940s. The Airstream logo of someone pulling the trailer with a bicycle isn't just hype. In my youth, I pulled a 1949 19' Airstream with my three-speed bike...getting it going wasn't too hard, stopping it required me to pull the cable for the breakaway brakes.

For Light weight, consider the model which used to be called the "Bambi".

OBTW, there is an Airstream Owners club, the WBCCI, and they have an ARA associated with the organization. There are lots of "Tinned Hams" out there.

73 DE KA0GKT/7
 
RE: Build Your Own 'Rolling Station'  
by KF4VGX on June 20, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Very good read ! Enjoyed the Article.
 
RE: Build Your Own 'Rolling Station'  
by ARRLBOOSTER on June 20, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Great article. Any rich person can go out and buy and airstream( status), but shows innovation to build a real rolling station.
 
RE: Build Your Own 'Rolling Station'  
by AD7DB on June 20, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Do you like to operate in the rain? Then one of these Can-O-Ham Teardrops, cool as they look, may not be right for you.

I second the motion on Airstreams. N7JY has one, with solar panels to recharge the battery for ham use. You can sit inside at a solid operating table, nice and dry, and have plenty of fun operating.
 
Build Your Own 'Rolling Station'  
by N0VUB on June 20, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Neat article. I have a popup camper that isn't the roomiest for 4 people. I take along a qrp rig FT-817 and dipole antenna. Setup is quick and easy and I can ether work from inside or outside if the bugs aren't too bad! I also have vhf and uhf capabilities using j-poles. If I need more power I just run the TS-50 in the pickup with the screwdriver antenna. I think the old campers and trailers were rather nastalgic...

73
Mark N0VUB
 
RE: Build Your Own 'Rolling Station'  
by ARRLBOOSTER on June 20, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
I think you miss the point. $30,000 will get you the smallest Airstream trailer-the bambi model. That is for a small 2 person model. Sheesh, too small for you wealthy guys. Some elite are outta touch, this is an article for the average, innovative, creative ham,who is on a budget. Ask your maid or butler about what a budget is.
 
Build Your Own 'Rolling Station'  
by WA6BFH on June 20, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Very good article!

I have been thinking about such things for a few years. Another Ham I know has this A-frame Chalet trailer. It is pretty cute, and splits the difference between your ‘can of Ham’, and a “Tear Drop.”

I presently own a medium sized Motor-home but, don’t know if it will be big enough for me, as I soon build my retirement Ham station. We will see? I will live in it or whatever, as I build the REAL station.

I’m not a “Rover” in terms of contesting. God, that is the last F’ing thing I would do! But, I do like to easily and conveniently travel up to a 20 or 30 dB gain mountaintop, so as to set up on 6 Meters through blue light!

Good thoughts, and a nice piece of work! 73! de John

 
Build Your Own 'Rolling Station'  
by NS1Z on June 21, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
A couple of years ago I built one of the "Desert Tears" teardrop trailers. Bought the plans which were good but not as complete as they should have been. Most references were to 4'X 8' sheets but the actual size had to be reduced in order to form a water tight seam along the edges of the top. Mine had the wood sides and the aluminum top. I used an air mattress and sleeping bag and was quite comfortable to sleep in. Cabinets inside held supplies while the galley cabinets held the food (most important part of camping!).
I have to say, it was great taking it to the hamfests in Maine. Guaranteed to draw a crowd. This helped promote the items I brought to swap.
I also took mine out for the Sept VHF contest and parked it on a spot called "Height of Land" in western Maine. Lots of fun running 4 rigs of a deep cycle battery in the bottom of the galley cabinets. Antennas were mounted on the front of the trailer tongue and even had a rotor on the array. I found the short ones, less than 10', worked best on this setup.
Sold it all when I moved to FLA last year.
 
RE: Build Your Own 'Rolling Station'  
by KG4RUL on June 21, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Here is another factory built alternative for around $13K:

http://www.aliner.com/page27.html

Dennis KG4RUL
 
RE: Build Your Own 'Rolling Station'  
by KD7EZE on June 21, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Want to build your own camper or trailer? Check out http://www.glenl.com Lots of plans, including many boat designs.

 
Fan Dipoles  
by KA4KOE on June 21, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
I wanna know how do you mount a fan dipole on that teardrop?
 
Build Your Own 'Rolling Station'  
by ALASKAN on June 21, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Only one mistake in the article. The Alaskan Camper is a popup camper of sorts that has NO canvas. It could be said it is a hard sided pickup truck camper with a top that raises and lowers for comfort and safety. if you go to http://www.alaskancamper.com you will find a truck camper that can be custom designed to your specifications. Ask for Donald Wheat, he goes by Don Wheat and he is a real Ham.
 
RE: Build Your Own 'Rolling Station'  
by K0BG on June 21, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
My local Honda dealer sells a tear drop which can be pulled by a Civic, they say. It sells for $11,995, includes stove, frig, heater, and a double bed. AC is optional. I thought about it... twice. After all, you can buy a lot of motel rooms for that kind of bread.

Alan, KØBG
www.k0bg.com
 
RE: Build Your Own 'Rolling Station'  
by KC9HGJ on June 21, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Very good article, I have also thought about purchasing a used small camper. I have 4 cylinder trucks and I would imagine that they could easily pull such a camper. I have seen them, in very good condition, for sale for very little money. I don't know if I am skilled enough in the trade to build one.

73
 
Build Your Own 'Rolling Station'  
by VE5JCF on June 21, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
I would like to buy an old VW mini bus and simply set up the shack in there. Then, instead of flowers and peace signs, you could paint various schematics on it. The thing is, you would probably need a second engine just to power your gear as the minis weren't much in the horsepower dept.

On that subject, perhaps the paper would have some used trailers that one could pick up for less $ than a DIY model.
 
RE: Build Your Own 'Rolling Station'  
by AD7DB on June 21, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
I guess I posted my previous comment just as ArrlBooster did his. I should clarify that N7JY bought a much used 1975 Airstream and has been restoring it. It was a lot cheaper than buying a new model, I quite agree.
 
Build Your Own 'Rolling Station'  
by N3GXH on June 21, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Too much is always better than not enough.

http://69.3.157.98/Possible/dscn4648.jpg

Although it's a bit tricky to park when I'm pulling the tower behind it.
 
RE: Build Your Own 'Rolling Station'  
by W7WV on June 21, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
I am just putting a portable together myself. We have a tent trailer so we can retreat out of the WX as the need be. We want to travel as money permits when my wife retires this fall.

I bought a used FT-840 for the RV and I am going to try both a homebrew Buddipole and a Superantenna
MP-1. I also have a set of Hustlers to try.

I got an old highway warning sign support base that had been hit and sent to salvage to use as a support for the antenna(s). It's aluminum so it's light and very sturdy. It will not see near the wind load that the highway warning signs put on it. I took the springs off it to save weight. It has 4 legs that fold down and go out 5' from the base in an "x" pattern and two vertical sections that take it up some 11'.

Maybe it will keep my urge down to come home to get that HF fix!
 
RE: Build Your Own 'Rolling Station'  
by AD7DB on June 21, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
"You can buy a lot of motel rooms for that kind of bread."

I think N7JY's investment for a used 1975 Airstream (~30 ft) was in the neighborhood of $5K. Plus several hundred spent since, fixing it up.

At today's prices, that's about 100 motel nights. Of course there are disadvantages. The cost of fuel to tow it is the big one.

Advantages: no more "No Vacancy" signs or having to stop in the afternoon to snag a motel room. (N7JY once got the shut out in Portland due to an Amway convention. I once found no rooms within 100 miles of Denver due to an Olympics festival going on in Denver, Colo Springs and Boulder.) You can keep moving, well into the night, and park nearly any place such as a quiet side street and spend the night. Free.

I have traveled with him numerous times. We only got visited by a cop once, in a small Missouri town north of KC. The cop recommended we move to a quieter location a block away because the street would be filled with big rigs at a truck depot early the next morning, and it might get us blocked in.

The savings (tangible or not) accumulate over time.
 
Build Your Own 'Rolling Station'  
by ALASKAN on June 21, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
The cost of motels is still a lot of money and it adds up and at the end of the day you can not recope your investment. And how about those dirty rooms and the "bed bugs" that no one talks about.
 
Walmart  
by KA4KOE on June 21, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
You can park in any Walmart parking lot overnight for free.
 
RE: Build Your Own 'Rolling Station'  
by N1OFZ on June 21, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
If you look you can find a small camper (ham can) cheap. I bought a 1963 Frolic in Oceanside, CA for $500. It was in excellent condition. I had to move back to the east coast and it was cheaper to buy the camper than to rent a uhaul.

I used it as a portable contest station for a few years and then turned around and sold it for $500! During my 5 years of ownership I refitted the kitchen (fixed the propane stove) and updated the wiring for the refrigerator and wall outlets and resealed the top. East coast winters are much tougher than SoCal!
 
RE: Fan Dipoles  
by WA1RNE on June 21, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
KA4KOE;


Time for some new material, eh?
 
RE: Walmart & Points South  
by WA6BFH on June 21, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
I wonder if we could organize some tours or cruises? You know, “Ham in a Can Tour and Sightseeing”!

It would be like those Alaskan tours where you drive your motor home or “can” right onboard the ship. How about a planned trip to ‘Club Gitmo’? I can see the headlines now, 'Ham radio operators from the US invade Cuba to give factual reports on conditions.' Dick Durbin will help with menu selections, and Holy Day observance. Boy that would be fun! Circle the cans guys!
 
RE: Walmart & Points South  
by N6AJR on June 21, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
And you can stick a solar panel in the window that faces south when parked or mount one on the roof permenently . throw in a couple or 4 of the 90 amp deep cycle batteries ( that will now stay charged with the solar panels) .

Next add a pipe to the tongue of the trailer with a fold over screwdrive antenna moun, and a couple of ball mounts for some hamsticks or what ever on the trailer sides or roof.

You can even put a small push up mast on the rear bumper of the trailer that lays foward into a bracke on the side of the trailer and stand it up and guy it for a nice support for a Fan Dipole in the back, or even clamp a small mast to the front of the car while parked ( use one of those plates you park your wheel on to hold the mast) and run a sloper.

I was going to do this to mine ( I bought a used trailer before I got hurt) and had all the pieces I needed to do it with, but when I was injured, my trailer days went away.

Also think of a way to recharge the batteries when using them heavy powere draw. you could use a set of wires to the car battery ( aka jump start the trailer) or buy a littl honda 1000 generator ( very quiet,and fuel efficient) .

I was going to mount the HF rig right on the dinner table, where it was easy to reach, hand several 2 meter/440 mobiles upo under the overhead storage bins above the table, hang a computer monitor from under the overhead storage, put the computer it self in the closet along with a shelf for a small TV.

I was going to leave the bed , and stove, and water stuuf as is ( storage under the bed) with a second 2 meter rig mounted over the bed , and run a couple of through the wall type setups for external power, telephone and a couple of extra coax hook ups.

These would be for when parked near a power source or like if used as a command center type setup for supporting the local club at fun runs and such. if you had an antenna available you could access it or run a really good antenna and be able to leave it and come back with a pass through for the coax.

well there you go folks and yes the fan dipole will work too.

tom N6AJR

 
RE: Walmart & Points South  
by KA4KOE on June 21, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
"KA4KOE;
Time for some new material, eh?"

From me? Or in general? If from me, what would you kindly suggest?

18 DEDs in the can, running out of bodies....

3 general articles that did so-so on this site
"Brave New Ham World"
"Inertia is Your Enemy"
"Varmint Proof your Antenna"

1 sarcastic/humor article that bombed
"Fourier Analysis Of Waveguide Modes"
 
Build Your Own 'Rolling Station'  
by KG4WLA on June 21, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Completed a 19000 mile camping/radio trip to KL7,VE8 and VY1 land in a basic Aliner. Also many other trips around the country. Carried an FT897 with a G5RV Jr. and made many contacts over the 6 month trip. I did notice the "Tear Drop" trailers are making a come back in Canada and Alaska. A big dollar motor home would be nice but not at all necessary. 73 all!
 
RE: Walmart & Points South  
by W6TH on June 21, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
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Very nice education for outdoor life and a fun thing.

I have had a Comfort 23 foot trailer, had also a Aljo 35 foot and set up as a antenna lab for radiation pattens, etc. Take it with you, don't leave home without it.

I have used many "fox" holes with several types of radios and sort of fell in love with a good envionment for transmitting and receiving; no complaints from TVI, although I had many jammers (Japanese) trying to dislocate my signals or me. No problem with CC&R or the HOA's.

You can get a military shovel with the pick and shovel and can carry it in your backpack. Makes fox holes easy.

Being an "outdoorsman", I prefer the fox hole, "C" or "K" rations, along wth a couple of chocolate bars.

Don't listen to John, WA6BFH as he must have forgotten about the "Bay of Pigs" and I shall remind him of such.

Enjoy the thrill of the portable stations and this post by Scott (N4ZOU) which is quite enjoyable for me as well as all. Thanks Scott.

73, W6th
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RE: Walmart & Points South  
by WA6BFH on June 21, 2005 Mail this to a friend!


<"Fourier Analysis Of Waveguide Modes" >

Yes, something along those lines, except maybe scooter mobile. Can you pull a small "can" with a scooter?

I think that there is a book about, "The Mobile DX'er" What about, "Scooter Mobile DX'ing"

72+ John
PS
Vito, don't take everything I say so seriously!
 
RE: Walmart & Points South  
by W6TH on June 21, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
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I know John and just kidding.

Scooter Mobile DX'ing". Sure thing John, when there is a will there is a way.


I do not take many things seriously and I believe that life is one huge joke. Man has been a failure since the day of birth and will remain so.

I just laugh my head off when most folks say; "we need taxes". Ever hear that mentioned John?

When such and such knocks my ability, I just let it go into one ear and out the other. I can dish it out and I am man enough to take it; I am a winner John and will never be a loser. So a man believes, so he is.

CU later my dx friend and by the way enjoy your scootering. Oh! By the way, my wife took my 4 band trap hustler apart and now I have to do some engineering to find out which trap is for which band. I can't complain as to my wifes doing as I am a very timid individual.

73, W6TH
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RE: Walmart & Points South  
by WA6BFH on June 21, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Yea Vito, I'm thinking of something along the lines of pulling a small trailer or wagon. This could help support a trailing counterpoise, and the enclosed wagon would contain the KiloWatt amplifier. A generator could sit on top.

Now maybe a "Texas Bug Catcher" for an antenna but, since we are probably talk'n 20 Meters, shoot a 16 foot quarter-wave whip ain't all that tall! Got to be efficient dont'cha know!

Now, I have to build a boom microphone arm for my D-104, that is whirred to my TS-430, or maybe my IC-706
 
RE: Walmart & Points South  
by N6AJR on June 21, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
with a 16 foot antenna you need to keep your speed up around 80 mph ( 125 kph) to keep the whip bent over far enough so the top doesn't hit the overpasses...

:)
 
Trailering  
by WB2WIK on June 21, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Nice article.

I drive a 31' Class C motor home and the price of gasoline is making this a difficult choice lately. A teardrop or "can of ham" sure has some appeal.

>RE: Walmart & Points South Reply
by WA6BFH on June 21, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Yea Vito, I'm thinking of something along the lines of pulling a small trailer or wagon. This could help support a trailing counterpoise, and the enclosed wagon would contain the KiloWatt amplifier. A generator could sit on top.<

::John, it sounds like you haven't seen N6NB's Ford van lately. You should take a drive down to Tustin and check it out. Wayne has it set up for contesting, roving or general hamming and it has a self-contained 4kW generator; three rotors, all supporting permanently installed beam antennas (which can be used while driving); a tiltover mast on a rotor for the larger antennas that cannot be supported while driving (like the six meter beam on a 20' mast that folds over the roof of the van while the beam's attached); a large operating bench supporting three permanently installed transceivers and five DEMI UHF-SHF transverters; a "full" sized bed for sleeping; drapes on all windows; and optional second operating position for multiop work. It's slick, stable and easy to use.

::Back in 1979, I bought from Wayne one of his homebrewed tower trailers which included a 65' 4-section telescoping Tri-Ex tower with tiltover and crankup cable winches; a 4kW gasoline power generator; complete towable trailer with levelers and lights, including brakes/directional signals; self-contained utility boxes to hold entire stations, amplifiers, cables and additional rotors; and the whole thing could be easily towed by anybody with a 2" ball and a trailer connection. I used that all over the east coast when I lived back there. Wayne homebrewed about six of these things, and they cost very little to build (other than the cost of the towers themselves), and could be plated, leveled, set up and put rotary beams 70 in the air inside of ten minutes once parked.

WB2WIK/6
 
Build Your Own 'Rolling Station'  
by OBSERVER11 on June 21, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
cute, but I don't know why these little tear drop things remind me of dog carriers.

Having traveled most of North America in everything from a 1962 Nimrod to a 31' travel trailer and now a 35' Class A motorhome, I applaud ANYONE willing to take on a tear drop project.
 
RE: Build Your Own 'Rolling Station'  
by KA0GKT on June 21, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Re" $30,000 for a Bambi.

A quick check on e-bay shows a 1964 Bambi II with a current bid as of this post of $2,025.00 (Less than a loaded FTDX-9000)

A 24' Airstream Tradewind has a bid of $1,526.00

The Bambi model has been made on and off since the mid 1950s, however they are collectable and sometimes do not go inexpensively, however, you get heat, a gas fridge, a stove, a bed and a small bathroom...and a place where a six-footer can stand upright.

73 DE KA0GKT/7, a 3rd generation Airstreamer.
 
RE: Trailering  
by WA6BFH on June 21, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Yup, I was there when he was welding up some in his drive-way, maybe yours!

I have the tower, that survived the fire at Wil's place, from the trailer that was parked in his garage. I have a trailer that I have been thinking of just such an installation for!

I have seen Wayne's van in a slide show at a recent WSWSS meeting but, have not seen 'the real deal' yet!

He has come a long way since the '62 Chevy wagon, and a 40 foot crank-up tower -- with his "AM" signal that I heard in the 1960's when I was an aspiring new Ham!
 
RE: Build Your Own 'Rolling Station'  
by KA0GKT on June 21, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Oh, yeah, ARRLBOOSTER, Both my Grandfather and my father operated their own businesses. Grandpa ran a Mobilgas station, Dad sold and repaired consumer electronics. I work for a PBS station.

No one in my family has ever had a maid or a butler. We work, save and spend wisely.

I do not own a ham rig that is under 20 years old.

Some people claim that the rich are snobs, you sir have proven that snobbery knows no financial boundries.

OBTW, I bought my Airstream used for around $3K about fifteen years ago. It has served my little family for fifteen years as well as it served the previous owners the immediate preceeding fifteen years.

DE KA0GKT/7
 
RE: Walmart & Points South  
by W6TH on June 21, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
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Yea Vito, I'm thinking of something along the lines of pulling a small trailer or wagon. This could help support a trailing counterpoise, and the enclosed wagon would contain the KiloWatt amplifier. A generator could sit on top.

Gosh John, why go at it the costly way. Why not go with a Ford F 100 or similiar vehicle? No need for a trailing wire and the body makes a perfect above ground plane.

All needed is good engineering practices and the ARRL handbooks of the past, can get you way above the needed. A truck and a camper shell can work great as well, so why go for an outboard setup. Americans, what a waste, come easy go easy. Better yet; get ourselves an Elmer, what more can we ask for. Heh heh.

I think the European GI's in the signal corp had it made with the portable BC 610. Wonder if they used the D 104? Do you know?

73, W6TH
.:
 
RE: Walmart & Points South  
by WA6BFH on June 21, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
No, its for my Rascal scooter!
 
Build Your Own 'Rolling Station'  
by KL7FH on June 21, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
We will be running one of the field day stations in our T@B trailer...lot's of fun hamming in it..
73
KL7FH, AL1G and AL2F at KL7DX
 
RE: Build Your Own 'Rolling Station'  
by OBSERVER11 on June 21, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
I forgot to mention, the photo of the old Scotty, I do not see a vent, so it must be a Scotty without a potty.
 
RE: Build Your Own 'Rolling Station'  
by KT4XF on June 21, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Don't overlook Spartan trailers, built by Spartan Aircraft Co. between 1946 & 1960 in a mobil station. The web site is spartantrailercoaches.com
 
RE: Build Your Own 'Rolling Station'  
by KC8VWM on June 21, 2005 Mail this to a friend!

A snapshot of KC8VWM's, family RV (and rolling amateur radio station) as shown here parked in a friendly Walmart parking lot.

If you look closely you will see our family boxer shading somewhere under the RV.

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/crotale/images/crotale4.jpg

73

Charles - KC8VWM
 
RE: Build Your Own 'Rolling Station'  
by W6TH on June 21, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
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http://www.army-technology.com/projects/crotale/images/crotale4.jpg


You mean a enslave machine.

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Build Your Own 'Rolling Station'  
by N0AH on June 21, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
I like this article a lot. The problem I have found with buying this stuff is that it is always missing one or two things you really need to make it all work. When you find what you need, it almost costs as much as what you paid for the camper. Cool stuff, keep up the fun forums like this. The originality of late almost makes it impossible for the typical he said he said BS.................nice touch!
 
RE: Build Your Own 'Rolling Station'  
by KC8VWM on June 21, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
"You mean a enslave machine."

Now that you mention it, It does seem to require a lot of upkeep and regular maintenance.


 
RE: Build Your Own 'Rolling Station'  
by W6TH on June 21, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
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Need that enslave machine in Iraq to stop the revolting Iraqi's whom Bush calls "terrorists and insurgents".

Iraqi's using the same tactics the Son's of Liberty and the revolting militia used to overtake the British in the Revolution to free the thirteen states.

That enslave machine sure is a mean one and looks like a command tank to deploy other weapons of mass destruction.

Just thought I would be truthful and yet ad some humor; joking kid, but however if you do claim the ownership, you are too far ahead of the advancement of ham radio. Please by all means slow it down some. Thanks.
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RE: Build Your Own 'Rolling Station'  
by KC8VWM on June 21, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
however if you do claim the ownership, you are too far ahead of the advancement of ham radio. Please by all means slow it down some. Thanks.


Well since you put it that way.... Point Taken!

Thanks.

Charles - KC8VWM

 
RE: Build Your Own 'Rolling Station'  
by W6TH on June 21, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
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Charles,

Is it up for sale? Should it be what is the going price? I am interested and would like putting it in my back yard for the kids to play with. Get them trained for the coming military drafting.
73
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RE: Build Your Own 'Rolling Station'  
by WA6BFH on June 21, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
I love the camaraderie to be found in Ham radio!
 
RE: Build Your Own 'Rolling Station'  
by W6TH on June 21, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
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How great for brethren to dwell together in unity.

Or, Goodwill and lighthearted rapport between or among friends; comradeship.
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RE: Build Your Own 'Rolling Station'  
by KC8VWM on June 22, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
"I am interested and would like putting it in my back yard for the kids to play with."

Sorry, looks like Philip, KA4KOE has first dibs on the RV. Something about training his son for the draft too. (everyone seems to be doing this lately) and mentioned something about coordinating matching colors with his HF manpack radio equipment, but I am not entirely sure.

I think he would probobly take an offer. Got anything to trade? Mabey a few dozen IC-7800's or some old D-104's or something like that?

73 Charles - KC8VWM
 
RE: Build Your Own 'Rolling Station'  
by W6TH on June 22, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
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I am going to dye all my clothing and ham radios an olive green as that had been my favorite color for many years.

Sorry, but the price does sound right and have non of those articles available. I understand that my line of work jumped up to $132,000 now a days for one years wages and should I decide to go back to work, I then could afford the purchase price.

KA4KOE seems to be an honest "tradesman", so it would be a fair deal to purchase from him. I will think about this purchase, but not looking for time when it will be issued to me.

Our children come first and they deserve all we can do for them to make a happy, safe and free life.

Thanks for the info and will check in from time to time to keep updated.

73, W6TH
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RE: Build Your Own 'Rolling Station'  
by KA4KOE on June 22, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
I am phasing out my bona fide BC610 Hallicrafter's communications gear, truck, and towed generator, Circa WW2. The nice ride me and Charles are negotiating on will be a worthy successor to my old war chariot.

Jordan, now pushing 7, has mastered claymore mine concealment, and can assemble/disassemble his AR-15 blindfolded in under a minute. Never mind the fact that the rifle is longer than he is tall. He'll probably enlist in the Marine Corps and do basic at Paris Island, SC, which is real close to where Daddy-yo lives. He'll enlist shortly after he hits puberty.

Love that boy o' mine!

Philip
 
RE: Build Your Own 'Rolling Station'  
by W6TH on June 22, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
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Great family Philip and a good future for the young one.

I have four sons, one in the Airforce, one in the Infantry and one in the Navy, ready for discharge with over 22 years service and is a chief. The fourth at home and a computer programmer and likes the special forces, but undecided as yet.

The BC 610 have owned and operated both military and civy life, used it with the SP-600-JX and the La Porte Rhombic at 90 feet. Not much of this today as age is catching up with me and just go with the home brew verticals and 500 watts. XYL will not let me climb the 80 foot tower, so that sort of killed part of ham radio.

I will get started on the Build Your Own Rolling Station shortly as it is good to spend more time outdoors. Ham radio, so much to do and much less time.

QRU for now.

73, W6TH.
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RE: Build Your Own 'Rolling Station'  
by KL7IPV on June 22, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
One can find 13 foot Cardinal and Aljo trailers from the 60s and 70s that are light and would fill that bill nicely. I have been RVing since 1950s and now have a 5th wheel (my 5th one) and love RVing. I almost became a dealer for the little A frame trailer known as the Chalet. It can be pulled by a small car and is ready to use on site in about a minute. Look here: http://www.chaletrv.com
Good article and fun to think about.
73,
Frank
KL7IPV
 
Nice idea but.....  
by WA6CDE on June 23, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
I agree... its a nice idea but... most hams don't have the time, facilities or tools to make something like this... so they resort to other things... like the old VW bus, westlys and the like... however, room, battery power and speed leave a lot to be desired... besides ever try and get a VW to work on HF... like microsoft and it program...NT... it stands for NIce try...

Their are a lot of little motorhomes... old vans which have been converted to RV's and small truck cabovers which can also give you a little more room... for a few bucks more... as pulling a teardrop trailer is going to take some power... more than your vespa can give... sorry...

Going first class.. is the trailers... Airstreams can be had for as little as 5-6000 for the biggest they make... 31 ft... used of course... and for the smaller ones.. much less.. but, it requires a car or PU truck be set up to tow with... and your not going to be making much more than 12-14 mpg going down the road... but,....

I speak from experiance... the airstream or similar trailer... if first class all the way.. hot showers... your own bathroom that is clean... and doesn't stink... (you use it.. you keep it clean)... running water, stove, oven and most improtantly the refrig for all the great things of life... along with Air condition/heat and lights... big batteries... TV and all the comforts of home... its a cabin on wheels... that can be used in the back yard for a ham shack also... when you get back...
During emergencys... it provides shelter and did I mention the great beds the thing has... and...

its just long enough to work out great with the 5BTV antenna... for quick set up and go operations...

Yep the old airstream or similar trailer that is still metal made... is pretty good for roughing it... and its always nice to see someone pull up in their sportsmobile or VW westly...tent or what ever... and try sleeping when its stroming outside... provides great entertainment for all in the airstream... especally when they are over their hopping up and down trying to keep warm while brushing the snow off... (all while your thermostat keeps the forced air heater in the airstream at that nice 70 degrees inside... all night long.. why you only had to use one blanket...) and when the sun comes out... you roll out the awning... for that extra porch... get out the barbie... and do some great cooking.... while enjoying the outdoors... oh ya don't forget to offer them others next door a cup of coffee... and a piece of that fresh hot dutch apple pie that the XYL just cooked in the oven... as they still are trying to get the fire lit on the coleman stove... to cook something...

Hey thats why they call us HAMS ....

Ya still want to camp in one of them little closets... called teardrops... hmmmmm....
 
RE: Walmart & Points South  
by KD5DFM on June 23, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
w6th said
>>Being an "outdoorsman", I prefer the fox hole, "C" >>or "K" rations, along wth a couple of chocolate >bars.

I'm sure your razor blade reserver and tuna can transceiver did you proud ;-) lol . yes nothing i like better than roughing it ;-) but was easier when i was younger lol john kd5dfm
 
Build Your Own 'Rolling Station'  
by W8MLL on June 27, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Great article.... I enjoy rebuilding old Airstreams and have done three of em ... currently working on a 1958 Airstream Pacer ... 17' long ... looks like an old Sunbeam toaster going down the road...
If you are interested in taking a look at a huge variety of older travel trailers and RV's check out the Tin Can Tourists web site. We meet twice a year in Michigan plus have a winter meeting in Florida. URL is www.tincantourists.com
73 de W8MLL
 
Have one for sale  
by W4XKE on June 30, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
I have a small camper for sale in east TN for $450 with air conditioning, dimmer lighting. XKECHO at lycos.com
 
RE: Build Your Own 'Rolling Station'  
by N7JY on July 9, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
I see my brother David, AD7DB mentioned my Airstream trailer. I want you all to know that they need not cost you as much as a down payment on a home either.

I bought mine for $5,000 and got the previous owners to throw in the trailer hitch apparatus as well. It was a fair deal because I knew what I was in for. After a lot of restoration work, I have one almost as nice as new - the only real difference is that mine is PAID FOR!

And it really does make a nice mobile ham shack too.

73, John, N7JY
 
Build Your Own 'Rolling Station'  
by XE1UFO on July 11, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Scott (N4ZOU):

I aplaud you for your article.

I am also shocked at the amount of bitterness expressed by some of the pickled hams on this thread.

My wife and I lived seven months in an overhead camper, then 3 years in a 32-foot fifth-wheel. That was 20 years ago. Now we are looking at building our own teardrop. Low cost, easy build, build to our own taste, etc. And I plan on pulling it with my 1994 VW Bug! (air-cooled, 1600 cc. fuel-injected) (Oh, and yes, normal VW Bugs were built here in Mexico up until 1993.)

Oh, and you can air-condition a teardrop for under $100 bucks, with the smallest a/c units available. Try that with a full-size trailer or motor home!

Most Teardrops are built and equipped for around $3,000. Some for a whole lot less (Do you already own a utility trailer?) and some for a lot more.

The Honda dealer wants over $11,000 for one? Several manufacturers sell brand new ones for under $5,000!!
 
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