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Noontime AM Band DX

from Ken WI7B on January 6, 2006
Website: http://WI7B.org/
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Noontime AM Band DX - What your Elmer didn't tell you

Yes, there are certain advantages to the minimum of solar cycle 23. The Winter. What's that?

Winter in the high northern latitudes offers oblique solar radiation yielding lower ionization in the D layer than occuring during summer months - a direct function of the sun’s elevation above the horizon. Coupled with a minimum number of sunspots (thus minimal UV radiation) the percentage yield drops an additional ~50% as compared to solar maximum [1]. As a result, RF frequencies that normally are attenuated (600-1630 kHz) in the D layer during daylight hours now reach the E layer where they are refracted. In the high latitudes, sky wave propagation begins to compete with the more familiar ground wave. This is particularly evident near the Winter Solstice.

Of course, ionization in the E layer is also reduced, but the solar minimum affects the D layer relatively more severely. Most texts never deal with the specifics of the solar minimum when discussing the D and E layers. Perhaps surprising, most of the pioneering work conducted on the ionosphere occurred through investigation of E layer sky wave [1,2] not of the F layers utilized for most daytime amateur HF communication.

During lunch break at work, I've being going to my car to try some AM broadcast band DX listening. Some late model car AM receivers are particularly sensitive. In the past few days I heard stations from 300-1000 miles distance at 12:00 noon local time. At times they compete with and overcome local AM broadcasts.

This can be a bit disconcerting. As I left work at 4:00 pm here in Washington state, I was listening for a rush hour traffic report. The loudest station with a traffic report ( 59 +30db is my “ear” estimate) was 810 AM. But it was for the Bay Bridge in San Francisco! This was Talk Radio KGO.

I'd like to hear about other observations and reports of AM broadcast band DX, especially east-west propagation and from the Eastern seaboard of European AM broadcasters.

73,

---* Ken WI7B

[1] E.V. Appleton, “The Ionosphere”, Nobel Lecture (1947)

[2] J. A. Ratcliffe, “Early Ionosphere Investigations of Appleton and his Colleagues”, Phil. Trans. Of the Royal Soc., Ser. A - Mathematical, Physical, and Engineering Sciences , 280 (1293): 3-9 1975

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Noontime AM Band DX  
by VE3MFN on January 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Interesting article and I'm glad to know that I'm not alone in poking around the good ol'AM bx band during midday into the afternoon. I use my Icom 735 as it seems to have fairly 'hot' reception on Bx Am. I'm located in the Niagara Peninsula area so target some of the Ohio, central New York and Penn. stations. My centre fed 270' Zepp does a good job of occasionally overloading my receiver!!

Richard (Rick) VE3MFN
 
Noontime AM Band DX  
by SM4INV on January 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Does this work for Top Band (160m) also?

72/73 de p-a, sm4inv
 
RE: Noontime AM Band DX  
by W8JI on January 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Sunspot minimum, except for paths very near the magnetic poles, seems to have very little effect on 160 meters. During a two year period at the sunspot MAXIMUM I logged about 200 countries on 160. I maintain regular skeds with a VK, and we had almost 100% success in morning QSO's during the sunspot maximum.

During the sunspot minimum the path to VK has actually gotten worse, not better. There are about four times the days of failure due to weak signals, although the contact rate is still well over 90% of the days. (Days with lightning storms or when both people aren't trying excluded.)

It's possible to work east coast to west coast through most of the day on 160 between big stations, but that's true sunset minimum or maximum.

Being a 160 addict, my opinion is the solar cycle and even WWV indices have very little to do with propagation on lower bands. The exception is propagation through the auroral regions. I think you'll find this opinion shared by most serious low band operators who have taken the time to compare conditions to things like WWV reports to conditions.

It's the short days and long nights that are largely important.

73 Tom
 
Noontime AM Band DX  
by NE0P on January 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Although this has been an unusual solar cycle-in that we are seeing more solar flares and solar activity than usual during the minimum. And we may have already started Cycle 24 as there were several days in October with no visible sunspots.
 
RE: Noontime AM Band DX  
by AB0TA on January 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
AM band DXing here in Saint Louis during this winter's daytime can certainly yield some unexpected results. Some typical AM DX stations I have heard are WLS Chicago, KOA Denver, WWL New Orleans, and even some New York city stations. It's hard to get over the rockies though.

I wonder if anyone else out there has noticed nightime enhanced low band DX during the full moon ?

 
Noontime AM Band DX  
by K8AG on January 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
I have been wowing folks with nighttime DX on their car radios for years. They rarely looked beyond what is on their buttons. Maybe even started an SWLer or two.

Got to try daytime DX. Won't be able to do it in 3 or 4 more years.

73

JP, K8AG
 
Noontime AM Band DX  
by KB9BIT on January 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
My interest in radio started with DXing the AM broadcast band and during the early to mid-80s I was a very avid DXer. To this day I still enjoy occasionally logging a new one, but my interest has considerably waned.

From Indiana I have been able to log stations from as far as California and Bonaire on the broadcast band at night, but loggings like this are uncommon.

During the cold winter months back in the 80s I had been able to regularly hear stations such as WSM from Nashville, TN, WSB from Atlanta and CFRB from Toronto at midday. But many more daytime-only stations are now operating on the once clear-channels and hearing distant daytime stations is now much more difficult.

Perhaps the biggest threat to the hobby of AM DXing is the impending rollout of IBOC which is digital broadcasting mode on the AM band. If you are unfortunate enough to live near a station broadcasting in this mode you can hear for yourself what a terrible mess it makes of adjacent channels.

Currently it is only being allowed during the daytime but soon might be allowed at night and when this happens the AM band will become a huge mess of noise and BCB DXing will become a thing of the past.
 
Noontime AM Band DX  
by W2XS on January 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Coincidentally, I did a “sweep” of the AM BCB the other day while at lunch and was surprised at the number of stations that I heard. I will bring in a portable radio to try - either the Eton E10 or the Kenwood R-11. At home, I have several receivers that are fun to use and very sensitive on the AM BCB: a Hallicrafters SX-99, a Drake R-4A (upper part of the band, above 1.5MHz), and the receiver in the Kenwood TS-930S. The antenna is a K1JEK Cobra Ultralite (www.k1jek.com) which is connected through an Elecraft balun. Besides local news, talk radio and football games, I have been listening to old radio shows (900kHz at night from Canada) and oldies (WKBW - 1520kHz - Buffalo) and news radio from Washington DC (WTOP - 1500kHz) with very strong signals. QTH is Long Island, NY.

73, John W2XS
 
RE: Noontime AM Band DX  
by K5PSH on January 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
on january 5th at aproximately 3PM CST i was hearing WWLS, 640kc, near okla city--i am in central texas 100 mi nw of houston--that distance is 320+ miles--what astounded me was that i was hearing the daytime dx on a crystal radio--

73--jerry--k5psh
 
RE: Noontime AM Band DX  
by KC0TLN on January 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
How timely of a topic! I have recently been tuning around the AM band, and from Kansas City I have regularly gotten Cincinatti, Minneapolis, and Oklahoma city at night. But the biggest surprise was just today, on my lunch break as I was flipping through memory presets on my IC706gmkII mobile rig I heard a very clear signal from WWL 870 New Orleans(!).

Actually I just walked out and checked, they are still copyable at 2:40pm.

73
--Ron
KC0TLN
 
Noontime AM Band DX  
by K7TRZ on January 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
After reading your post at lunch time, I turned on the radio and quickly found a station in Calgary, Alberta about 1300 miles away booming in at S8. Thanks for the tip!
 
RE: Noontime AM Band DX  
by KC8VWM on January 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
I have collected many QSL cards from AM DX'ing and it's a boatload of fun to write them reception reports. They always send you bumper stickers and everything else. AM 740, CHWO from Toronto is one of my favorites to listen to. 1010 CFRB / CFRX in the daytime on 6.070 mhz. is the next. I have to say that even 1010 AM comes in quite well in the daytime hours here in Ohio. I have even heard 540 XEWA, from Mexico on occasion. But then again they are pumping 150kw! south of the border.

I am however still trying to hear 750 KFQD, a Clear Channel Station from Anchorage, Alaska. A good set of filters on my R390A helps pull them out with some selectivity, but I can still hear many of the same stations using a regular BC band receiver.

Nice article.

73 Charles - KC8VWM
 
Noontime AM Band DX  
by AF9J on January 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
I can believe that. I actually experienced the same phenomenon back during low part of the solar cycle, in August 1987. I had gotten my General license a few months previously, and had just graduated from the University of Wisconsin. I was a member of the university's ham club at the time (the University of Wisconsin ham club's callsign is W9YT). I had a couple of weeks to waste until my dad arrived to take me (and my belongings) back home (it was kind of hard to get a job in engineering at that time), so I spent some time operating the club station.

One of the QSOs during this time period, was on 160m SSB, with a guy in New Jersey. The QSO was at least 2 hours long. The interesting thing, is that the QSO not only took place in the middle of August, but it started at around 2:30 in the afternoon, and went on until almost 5pm local time. The only reason we ended the QSO, was because the gentleman in New Jersey had to eat supper. During the entire QSO, we were both 57 or greater signalwise. I used a TS830S barefoot (at 100 Watts [good rig - I almost wish I had one for nostalgia's sake]) into a 1/2 wave dipole the club had on the roof of the electrical engineering building. What a cool QSO.

73,
Ellen - AF9J
 
Noontime AM Band DX  
by WL7NO on January 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Just recently I noticed this phenomena on the AM band, although here in Anchorage, it was probably more related to the Grayline phenomena, but I did notice that reception was good up to Nome, 539 miles and Fort Yukon, 393 miles. This was on a desktop radio without an external antenna. The time of day was somewhere around 12:00 pm.
 
RE: Noontime AM Band DX  
by NS6Y_ on January 7, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Loop antennas are great for this fun too, I have to admit, I have like one contact on HF, but I sure like finding numbers stations, SW broadcasters, I'd love to hunt for pirates, and stuff I can't even describe.....

You can build an AM loop with a piece of flat ribbon cable, you need fairly wide ribbon cable, 23 wires wide or something, you offset the ends and solder so you end up with a continuous loop, then use a cap from an old radio, this doesn't need to be connected to your AM radio just near it. There are plans for this one all over the net.

Pretty cool stuff.
 
RE: Noontime AM Band DX  
by W4ZV on January 7, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
To SM4INV - We began getting some very early openings on 160 to Europe this season beginning in October. I've heard some Europeans S 5-6 as early as 90 minutes before sunset. I usually hear them before they hear me because 160 is very quiet here before sunset. Their noise floor is higher since they have both QRM from other stations plus propagated noise in full darkness. These signals are extremely low-angle and not audible at all with a high-angle antenna.

73, Bill W4ZV
 
RE: Noontime AM Band DX  
by W8JI on January 7, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Hi Bill,

I moved to this location in 98/99. I notice no difference at all in early openings now as through the sunspot peak. As a matter of fact, reliability of the path from here to VK has decreased.

I think Carl K9LA wrote an article in World Radio about sunspot numbers and 160. His conclusion is it makes very little difference on 160 and low, and I tend to agree with him.

I think if we watch it, daytime propagation won't change much from sunspot minium to maximum.

I agree, the daytime stuff here is all low angle.

73 Tom
 
RE: Noontime AM Band DX  
by WI7B on January 7, 2006 Mail this to a friend!

Here is a link to NOAA's Cycle 23 updated graph of average sunspot number...

=> http://www.sec.noaa.gov/SolarCycle/

As you can see, the solar minimum is not expect until next December or January, 2007. The last minimum was spring of 1996. Typically at the minimum, the sunspot number can dip to 2-5. At this point D-layer ionization (and absorption) drops by greater than 50% compared to solar maximum. Also watch the E-layer critical frequency and Greyline variations...

=> http://spacew.com/www/foe.html

An indication of what to expect next Winter came last October, 2006. If you note the graph, the sunspot number dropped dramatically then leading to LF and MF opening worldwide. This is documents on numerous NDB (non diretional radiobeacon) websites and by daytime SWL enthusiasts. From my communication with them, I tend to believe their insight and observational skills.

I really appreciate all the observational information folks have offered. During the coming year, daylight propagation on the low end (or top end, depending on your prespective) will become a real treat!

73,

---* Ken
 
Noontime AM Band DX  
by N0AH on January 7, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
The 7 page Nobel lecture is interesting to read. It makes one think that at the time it was presented, 1947, it had a lot to do with the times.

I often wonder what frenquencies WWII Allied communication used. I am sure a lot about propagation science came from these days. Ship to ship, ship to plane, ship to shore of great distances etc.....

For eample, what frequencies were used for aircraft carrier fighter planes or long range PBY's out of the groundwave foot print of a number of bands.

And what about the other side of monitoring enemy frequencies ranging over a variety of distances.

Not to get away from the Noontime AM Band DX subject but I think this is in relationship to this topic.

Was AM used? FM? Did they depend on noontime AM DX monitoring hoping for a lucky daytime opening?

I miss the old days of having an anolog AM car radio. Was always fun to find stations as a kid coming back to Denver after skiing. I still use my FT-900 in the mobile to find AM DX but never noticed anything during the day. I'll be listening today for the openings.

Of note, there is a quite active AM band from EU that is fun to pick up below 17M. I never knew it existed until I dropped down in frequency one day to see what if anything was there.

SWL is a big part of the hobby. When I was a kid, tuning into Radio Moscow was always interesting. This during the Vietnam War and it was one of the things that got me going into HAM radio.

My brother and I built a Heath Kit SWL and I wish I had kept it. We may hve heard things like this Noon AM band DX but had no idea what it was- hi

I think SWL is mostly done with non-hobbyist in their cars going to and from work. Especially in the winter. But I also think digital car radios is taking a lot of the potenial listeners away.
 
RE: Noontime AM Band DX  
by W4ZV on January 7, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
W8JI: "I think if we watch it, daytime propagation won't change much from sunspot minium to maximum."

Tom, you may well be right. I've never listened on 160 so early before sunset until this year, so I have no basis for comparison. When I first heard this in October, I thought it might be even better in Dec/Jan with the sun getting lower, but the opening now seems to be about the same time before my sunset. The guys farther north like VE1ZZ and VY2ZM have EU propagation around their local noon, so the low positon of the sun there may indeed have some effect, but it has not been much different here.

73, Bill W4ZV
 
Noontime AM Band DX  
by N0AH on January 7, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
In case you are wondering what you are hearing during what you think is AM Band DX......unreal number of stations sharing the same freq-

http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/amq?state=&call=&arn=&city=&freq=530&fre2=1700&type=0&facid=&class=&list=2&dist=&dlat2=&mlat2=&slat2=&NS=N&dlon2=&mlon2=&slon2=&EW=W&size=9
 
RE: Noontime AM Band DX  
by KC8VWM on January 7, 2006 Mail this to a friend!

There are different classifications of stations using frequencies on the AM BC band. Frequencies are Clear, Regional, or Local channels. Some stations are going to be actual DX (usually clear) and some are going to appear as DX (usually regional and local) because you will often hear a constant hetrodyne of many combined signals who are sharing the same frequency.

This doesn't always imply there is a DX window taking place, it simply means that sometimes many stations are using the same frequency in a local or regional area.

So the question of what you are hearing is actual DX, depends on hearing and confirming the stations actual callsign and location.

AM BC band station class info and listings can be found here:

http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/amclasses.html

 
Noontime AM Band DX  
by NC9K on January 7, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
About 11 years ago I was sitting in the parking lot of a K-Mart in Ironwood MI in our 85 Chrysler scanning the AM band for DX. On 530 kc I noticed a faint signal and stopped to listen. It progressively got stronger until the receiver had full quieting. It was a station out of Beijing China. I kept it tuned in for an hour.
 
Noontime AM Band DX  
by K2JX on January 7, 2006 Mail this to a friend!

Ken,

I've been bc band dx'ing for 30 years. I like you have had great results with the radio in my pick-up. Never hear any west coast sta's here during the time I listen. Sometimes WWWE in Ohio wipes out WHLI here 20 miles from me. Thier signal is very strong, likewise WKBW 1570 from Buffalo NY. WINS and WCBS both 50kw clear channel stations in NYC are at times wiped out by distant stations. Amazing to think a 50kw station disappears from the dial that's only 25 miles from me.

I use several rcvrs, 2 antennas and at times my truck beats 'em all ! Bdcst band dx'ing is a daily hobby for me, I am glad to see others share this interest too !

73, Jack K2JX
 
RE: Noontime AM Band DX  
by KV4BL on January 8, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Good article! Glad to see others are interested in this sort of thing. While I haven't done a lot of BCB DXing since I was in grade thru high school, this still interests me. At nights, I sometimes like to listen to WSM (650 AM) in Nashville, TN. It is kind of a nostalgia trip for me. They have usually faded completely out by the time the sun is up and I just accept that as normal. A couple of years ago, I was actually able to carry a useable signal while making my rounds in the company car (01 Crown Vic with rear window "in glass" antenna) until around 11:30 AM local time. Then last year (05), I forget the month but it was the first half of the year, I was picking them up loud and clear for about three hours in the afternoon from around 2PM to 5PM local time. I called WSM and spoke with a secretary and on-air DJ and told them that they were making it all the way to Columbia, SC with a clear signal but they didn't seem too impressed, even when I made it clear that this was coming across the 650KHz frequency and not satellite or internet. The DJ did play the call on the air and played a request for me. It was cool to know that for a few seconds, I was legally on the air on 650KHz with 50 KW. This is the first time that I have ever heard them here in the midlands of SC at that time of day! I had hoped it'd be a lasting thing but the next day, they were not to be heard. Now, if I ever get a back yard big enough to string a 160m antenna! 73, Ray KV4BL
 
Noontime AM Band DX  
by KR3DX on January 8, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Hi All,

I've been AM BCB DX'ing since I was a kid in the late 1950's, it's what sparked my interest (pun intended) in radio. My current job requires me to spend quite a bit of time in my car, so I'm frequently listening to the radio during the day. I often check propagation on the AM band. Many car radios work quite well, even with the handicap of a very short whip antenna. A comparatively large uv/M signal is still required, however. The relatively new expanded portion (1610 - 1700 kHz) of the band is interesting, all stations there use non-directional antennas and are 10 kW daytime and 1 kW nighttime, at least as far as I can tell. The exceptions are the Traveller Information Service stations from 1610 to 1640 kHz that tell you the local traffic and WX conditions, those are all 10 W or less, I believe. I live in western Pennsylvania, near Pittsburgh, so stations east of the Mississippi River are the easiest to hear. I've been able to hear WRLL, 1690 kHz, from Chicago (about 500 miles), during the day even back in late September and October. There are only 5 stations in the country on 1690, so ID'ing the stations is easy. It's the same for all the freqs , 1610 and above. In addition to the FCC website, another great site for identifying BCB stations is: <http://www.radio-locator.com>. You can search by location or call letters, and under the "advanced search" feature, you can search by frequency, which is a tremendous aid in ID'ing a station that you've heard. Another GREAT thing is, under the listing of stations, there is a yellow icon with the letter "I" for information. Click on the yellow icon and you get the technical info for that station. Then you can click on the "View Daytime Coverage Map", or "View Nighttime Coverage Map", or, for those stations that have the requirement, "View Critical Hours Coverage Map" and you get a map with an overlay of signal strength contours for that station, taking into account the antennas directional pattern and even the soil conductivity!!! If anyone knows of a website that is more useful than this one, please let me know. Yes, most of the old clear channel 50 kW stations now have many more signals on their frequency during the daytime, and in some cases during the night. Also, Cuba is retaliating for our Radio Marti broadcasts by beaming high power transmissions into the US on formerly "clear channel" frequencies, especially those that are occupied by stations in the northern and western parts of our country. Check 670, 720, 780, and 890 kHz, all 50 kW clear channel stations in Chicago, I'm sure that there are some others, also.

Keep in mind that the AM BCB has quite different propagation characteristics from its lowest to its highest frequencies, there is a 3 to 1 ratio difference in wavelength. The lower frequencies have a MUCH greater groundwave coverage, and the higher frequencies are much more prone to ionospheric skip, so its almost like 2 or 3 different bands, remember that there is a 3 to 1 wavelength ratio from 30M to 10M, or from 40M to 15M! It's the ratio of one frequency to another that is important in determining propagation differences, not the amount of kHz or MHz. LW DXing is also very interesting, its amazing to hear a 10 W beacon signal from a few hundred miles away during the daytime, even in the Summer, using a 5 inch ferrite rod antenna or a 24 inch diameter tunable loop, at frequencies from 200 kHz to 500 kHz. Thanks, Ken, for an interesting post.

73,
Denny
 
Noontime AM Band DX  
by K2ROK on January 8, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Another neat thing to check during the day are the so-called "local" channels like 1340 or 1450 kHz this time of year. If you don't have a local station on freq, give the channel a listen. Especially from early to mid-morning or around 4 pm through 5 pm -- when the daytimers take to the airwaves with about a kilowatt. Listen to the mess, static and noise -- and about every 5 minutes someone rises to the top for about 30 to 60 seconds -- then fades back into the mess -- I've caught a lot of low-powered stations coming in from across state or within about 300 to 500 miles.
Listen near the top or bottom of the hour for an ID, usually during local news.
 
Noontime AM Band DX  
by K9NYO on January 9, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
When I was a kid I got plans from Radio Netherlands for a 1m square loop (just turns of wire and an old cap for tuning). I could set a transister radio inside the loop and hear WHO 1040AM 300 miles away (from Chicago). I was hooked and did a lot of AM broadcast band DXing and collected a bunch of QSL cards and letters. That along with SWLing was my gateway to ham radio.

Years later on the other end of the mic when I worked at an AM radio station at night, I really dug getting calls from far off states and fellows calling in their DXploits.
 
RE: Noontime AM Band DX  
by KC0SHZ on January 9, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Haven't been too lucky in Omaha. We are only 40.5 degrees of latitude, so this may be a factor. Was able to get full quieting on my Explorer's am radio tuned into a station in Minneapolis. Nothing further.

I wonder how long these conditions will last and how far North you have to be to get maximum effect?
 
Noontime AM Band DX  
by KU4UV on January 10, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Anybody ever try logging our 50,000 Watt blowtourch, WHAS 840 here in Kentucky? From what I understand, WHAS can be heard in 48 states and most of Canada at night. I too used to try to catch DX stations on the AM band at night. I remember when I was a kid I had a little AM transistor radio that I would listen to at night while I was in bed. This was back in the early 80's. I grew up and obtained a Broadcasting degree, and worked in radio and television both for several years. I worked at 1340 WEKY in Richmond, Kentucky for 4 years, as well as for another station, 1500 WKXO in Berea, which was owned by the same guy. Our transmitter building for WKXO was located in a bowl-shaped field, so whenever it rained, the signal would really get out. I think there is only one other station in Kentucky on 1500 KHz. The transmitter is licensed for 200 Watts, but it has been at low power for several years, and from I understand, it still is. If it were back to full power, it would really put out a signal on a good day. I need to get back into BCB DXing. It is a lot of fun.

73,
KU4UV
 
Noontime AM Band DX  
by KG6WLV on January 13, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Wow... this is right up my alley! I've been casually BCB DXing with various radios since I was 14 -- 1968. A few catches, starting with my all-time best:
WCBS 880 AM, NYC. Copied this easily with an 8-transistor pocket radio 6 pm local time in the SF Bay Area, sometime in 1968 or so in AUGUST!
KOB 770 AM. Copied this in Merced California at 11:30 am local time in December in the 80s.
KSEI, 970 Pocatello ID, nighttime on a really BAD radio.
WLS 890 Chicago. Numerous times in the Bay Area over the years.
Many of the old clear channel stations have been "covered" out here on the west coast by stations dropped in on their frequencies: WSM, WLS, WWL, WHAS, and WCBS/KRVN.
1230, 1240, 1340, 1400, 1450, 1490 are all "local" channel stations, virtually all of them running 1 kW day and night with non-directional (one tower) antennas.
Expanded band stations are almost all running 10 kW day/1 kW night with non-directional antennas. While this band was beginning to be utilized, it was very easy to hear stations from thousands of miles away. The oldies station near Salt Lake City on 1660 was easily readable every night in northern California, until it was covered by a station in Merced. ( Utah comes in very well out here; KSL in Salt Lake was easily copied today at 2:30 pm, the old Top-40 KCPX, 1320 AM, used to blow the Sacramento co-channel station off the air at night.)
I also copied a 1620 station near Seattle in the middle of the night in Death Valley, about 1200 miles away.
The GE Superradio is a very cheap and very good DX machine (for outrageously good FM reception, hook it up to a rotatable roof antenna 40 feet above ground!); I also use my TS-2000 hooked up to a random wire 30 feet above ground, and a Drake R8-A. Loops are excellent for DXing, including those that are passively connected to the radio via inductance. Car radios are very good, except that they have non-directional antennas, and the digital tuners usually cannot slew away from channel centers to avoid splatter from adjacent strong signals.
I'd be very interested to hear about more 160 contacts as well.
 
RE: Noontime AM Band DX  
by K6ALF on January 15, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Man... Talk about bringing back old memories..

AM BC DX was my introduction to "RADIO" DX back in my
junior high days...

Gotta get me one of those GE SRIII for old times sake..
B4 digital AM lays waste to the band.

TonyF
 
Noontime AM Band DX  
by K1FPV on January 16, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
There have been many strange things regarding MW & VLF propagation. I often receive longwave broadcasts from Europe shortly after noon. Team Talk on 252 kHz.(Ireland), BBC radio 4 @ 198kHz., Europe #1 on 183 kHz.(France) and many more come in well. Granted, I'm on the east coast, but it is still pretty good.
 
RE: Noontime AM Band DX  
by W5CMP on January 19, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
your a nocode must have been cb am
 
Noontime AM Band DX - a more modern twist  
by KA7OEI on January 19, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
One facet of BCB DXing that has appeared more recently is using computer-based DSP and narrow-bandwidth techniques to identify specific carriers by their unique characteristics, namely their exact frequency and some particular drift pattern.

This is quite different from more traditional DXing where one ID's the station by actually hearing the ID. As it turns out, many AM transmitters have a particular frequency signature - usually related to a crystal oven's cycling, a rhythmic change in the transmitter's ambient temperature due to cycling of an air handling/cooling system, or something else. Also, owing to the rather low frequency and the fact that a lot of these transmitters have well-aged crystals, they generally tend to stay near a certain frequency close to their designated carrier frequency.

With modern programs like Spectran and Argo (and there are others) and with a well-calibrated and stable modern HF receiver, it is possible to measure accurately the carrier frequency of an AM BC station to within a few 10'ths of Hz or better. By observation and corroboration with others, one can identify stations with good certainty simply by noting the "drift patterns" and/or their carrier frequency.

While it is always more exciting to actually hear a station ID, one can use this technique to detect stations that, given certain conditions, would otherwise be undetectable. An example of this is that there might be a "local" station (one that isnt' too strong - but still strong enough to obliterate others on the same frequency) that makes an audio ID impossible, but using narrowband detection techniques that use bandwidth of <1 Hz, one can detect stations that would otherwise never be observed.

From my location (northern Utah) I can "see" multiple AM broadcast band carriers on every 10 KHz slot in the band even during the daytime: At night, the display becomes far more cluttered, as you might expect, and you quickly become aware that the engineers of some stations aren't paying very close attention to their transmitters...

This technique has been used to spot potential openings of overseas stations: The "signature" (precise frequency and drift pattern) of a "powerhouse" station overseas is known from those who have positively identified and analyzed the station and then the receiver/computer can be set up to watch for it: It will start showing up on the computer long before it becomes audible. Similar techniques have been used for several years by TV DXers to help identify particular TV transmitters to help identify stations (and, more importantly, propagation trends) before and after strong band openings.
 
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by KB3FGJ on January 20, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
You really do not need a high-powered receiver for BCB DX. Crystal radios work fine too. Actually this topic has surfaced in the middle of a contest. Take a look at this site www.crystalradio.us to see what can be accomplished. Granted most of these are not simply sets, but they are all unpowered.

Rich – KB3FGJ

 
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by W7MVG on January 26, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Around the end of September of last year (2005) I was camping just off of I-84 in eastern Oregon, not too far from the Idaho border. On one of the days is started pouring rain around lunch time so I was sitting in my truck reading a book. Just for kicks I decided to see if I could get any radio stations. The only one I could hear, and it came in LOUD and clear, was an AM station out of Victoria, B.C. Canada. Later in the day I decided to try it again and while I could hear the station still it was not nearly as clear.
 
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