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Mobile Monitor for Icom IC-7000
Alan Applegate (K0BG)
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January 28, 2006
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Mobile Monitor for IC-7000
If you don't own, or plan to own, an Icom IC-7000, this article may not be of interest to you. However, I'm sure there will soon be other radios with video outputs, and perhaps it may be of use in the future (excluding the IC-7800 et. el.).
Whether or not you have done the TV mod to your Icom IC-7000, and tried to display it's front panel on a large monitor, you would know how poor it looks. I'm sure Icom never intended for it to be compatible with an HDTV monitor, but they sure could have made it better than it is. With the TV mod, it looks a little better on a larger monitor (5 or 7 inch), but not by much. The bottom line is, if you're going to remotely view the display, it behooves you to use a similar sized (as in stock), 2.5 inch display.
Problem is they're sort of difficult to find, so a lot of amateurs have opted for a 5 or a 7 inch monitor like those available for mobile video players meant to keep the kids happy on long trips. The 5 inch monitor you see below came from All Electronics, and was intended for that exact purpose. It sells for $95.
After looking high and low, I did find a company who sold 2.5 inch displays, and that is Superdroid Robots, located in Faquay-Varina, NC. The link takes you to their web page which lists the three different sizes of displays they sell. I opted for the $70 2.5 inch (left photo) as I plan to mount it in my car as soon as my remote mounting cable arrives from Icom. The 5 inch is just to large, at least for my installation.
It is difficult to see the quality difference between the two displays as shown here (a digital camera does have a few drawbacks in this regard). In person the difference is very noticeable. Neither of the monitors look good with the alternate display colors, as their only adjustment is their contrast setting. I've been told there is a way to adjust the video output settings (color and hue) on the IC-7000, but I don't have a copy of the Icom repair manual which tells you how to do it. Personally, I don't think it would help much.
Both of the monitors shown have built in audio amps and speakers. The one in the 2.5 inch display is worthless for mobile work, and the stereo one in the 5 inch display is just passable. I wouldn't want to rely on either one of them. They both use mini (1/8 inch) jacks for the AV input. The video in on the tip which makes cabling an easy task.
The Audiovox unit comes with a 9 VDC wall wart, but the instructions say it will operate safely on vehicle current (13.8 VDC). Its done so on my bench for several weeks without any problems. It draws about 750 mils, weights 15 ounces, and comes with a 3 foot AV cable.
The Pustom unit comes with a 1.2 amp, 12 VDC switching wall wart, and a 3 foot AV cable. It draws just over 1 amp, so I wouldn't power it from the Icom's accessory socket. At just one ounce, the Pustom unit will be easy to mount, and it's bright output should make daytime viewing easy unless the sun is directly on the display.
If there is anyone out there using a remote display with an Icom IC-7000, please add your comments below.
Alan Applegate, K0BG
I have made the TV mod referred to above. I don't have the necessary test equipment to check for sure, but it appears Icom only outputs half of a standard NTSC picture, but displaying it twice. In other words a nominal 240 lines of video.
When attached to the composite port of my Hitachi plasma HDTV, the TV dutifully reports the signal as NTSC 60 Hertz, 3.58 MHz, but the video quality is worse than some of my 20 year old VHF tapes. This is what leads me to the 240 line conclusion. It's a moot point because I didn't buy the radio for its TV capabilities. However, it'll be nice listening to NPR's All Things Considered.
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by NS6Y_ on January 28, 2006
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OK this could almost convince me to put a rig in my Prius, the bar chart thing looks boring and the screen with the spinning wheels is just too much.
I think I'll wait for the one from ELECRAFT though!
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by KZ1X on January 28, 2006
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Good sleuthing, Alan! And clever!
Just 2 things:
1. It's "Fuquay-Varina" a very cool little ham-active town here in central NC
2. You listen to NPR's "Left Side Considered" ?
;-)
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by HA5RXZ on January 29, 2006
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I suspect that many of the picture quality problems you are having are due to the NTSC output (Never Twice Same Color). PAL would probably not be much better but at least they did not use SECAM <g>.
Note to Icom
VGA output please, then we can avoid these problems.
HA5RXZ
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by N4ZKF on January 29, 2006
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I own one. Have the head remote mounted on my 2005 F-150 Truck dashboard. Unit is under the back seat.
Why would you want to remote monitor this radio?
I'm missing something here or I'm slow. You can remote watch it but all the controls are on the head OR the mic?
73 Dave n4zkf
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by K2WH on January 29, 2006
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What am I missing here??? Remote monitoring. Why would one want to do this if all the controls are somewhere else?
I should also ask, remote monitor WHAT?
K2WH
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by KI4GYT on January 29, 2006
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Well, for starters, you could think of it as a "heads-up display" (HUD) for your radio when running mobile. Mount the remote display somewhere closer to your field of vision (your FOV when looking at the road, that is) and then you don't have to look down to check freq, etc...
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by N4ZKF on January 29, 2006
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Mine IS in my field of view. I don't have to take my eye off the road to look at it. It's just to the right of the steering wheel.
I also own a Corvette with HUD and it's annoying having it right in front of you. A display right in your line of site is NOT a HUD. The heads up is like a hologram on the glass of the car.
73 Dave n4zkf
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by N9XCR on January 29, 2006
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Keep up the good work, Alan! BTW, you have an excellent web site.
73,
Chris N9XCR
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by AB7JK on January 30, 2006
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Is someone going to turn this into a code/no code thread?
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by WB5QBN on January 30, 2006
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Hi, Just wondering where you got the remote kit for the 7000... I was told they were not available yet.. had the rig for a couple of weeks now but can't mount it without the remote cable.. please let me know where you purchased the remote kit..
Tnx, Frank.. N5WJ
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by N4ZKF on January 30, 2006
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I called HRO in Atlanta and they shipped me the 14 ft one in two days.
73 Dave n4zkf
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by W2CSH on January 31, 2006
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If the video is 240 lines a digital video scaler such as an Extron DVS 204 may get the video up to a presentable scan rate and could convert it to the HDTV format. I think the DVS 204 can be purchased for a few thousand dollars which to those of you who own this radio is chump change.
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by KC1QF on February 8, 2006
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Good article!
However the actual data (the font size etc) may be stored in the processor in a smaller matrix than VGA and thus it doesn't have high resolution and doesn't need much memory.
This is why the image doesn't get better with a better screen. I am sure the bandwidth is fine. The 240 line you mention was the 'old' VHS standard which just said that the magnetic tape could only reproduce video data with a maximum resolution of 240 lines (horizontal) due to the actual transfers rates (slanted read/write head) etc.
Have you tried the different font? What does that give as image?
I bought one of these treats from HRO (Sunnyvale) and will try it later (some time this century).
Finally, please try and keep politics out of this thread. I watch NewsHour as well as CNN, FOX, CBC, BBC, CNBC etc to get a balanced view and make up MY own mind about things. Anyone who watches just one of these networks and believes what he/she is told is just, well, misinformed.
Peter, KC1QF
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by KA0PMD on February 8, 2006
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I want to get a CCTV camera to monitor my fan dipole.
73,
KAØPMD
Reno, NV
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by KA9ARM on February 9, 2006
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Don't forget that Congress has now passed the bill to end all analog TV transmission in 2009. They'll have to include an 8VSB tuner and DTV decoders in the next models if you want to watch broadcast TV.
Also, as one who drives 50K miles a year, I think video displays are another dangerous distraction for drivers. They are now easy to mount on dashes, sunvisors, etc. Take a look when you drive at night some time, you'll see many, including in 18 wheelers. I believe there are some laws against displays in view of the driver, but they are becoming commonplace in vehicles now for mapping, GPS, etc.
The worst example I've seen was a display on the dash of a Jeep Cherokee directly in front of the driver, who was watching a movie. This was in Michigan, south of Grand Rapids traveling at speed (65mph). I reported him.....
Andy, KA9ARM
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by KA9ARM on February 9, 2006
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Don't forget that Congress has now passed the bill to end all analog TV transmission in 2009. They'll have to include an 8VSB tuner and DTV decoders in the next models if you want to watch broadcast TV.
Also, as one who drives 50K miles a year, I think video displays are another dangerous distraction for drivers. They are now easy to mount on dashes, sunvisors, etc. Take a look when you drive at night some time, you'll see many, including in 18 wheelers. I believe there are some laws against displays in view of the driver, but they are becoming commonplace in vehicles now for mapping, GPS, etc.
The worst example I've seen was a display on the dash of a Jeep Cherokee directly in front of the driver, who was watching a movie. This was in Michigan, south of Grand Rapids traveling at speed (65mph). I reported him.....
Andy, KA9ARM
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