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National Veterans Ham Radio Club

Bob Raymond (W7RJR) on February 6, 2006
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A National Veterans Ham Radio Club

A recent eHam.net speakout entry suggested the establishment of a National Veterans Club for Amateur Radio Operators. A lot of hams seemed to like the idea so I would like to propose a schedule for those that may be interested on 7.245 MHz LSB, at 6 PM PST (9PM EST) on Sunday, Feb 12, 2006. This would be an informal gathering to discuss the idea in greater detail.

For those interested in participating in an Internet discussion group you can point your Internet browser to the following URL:

Such a group would be a great way for veterans to support each other via amateur radio, meet some old friends and make some new ones.

The club would make no distinction regarding periods of service or conflicts. The only requirement for membership would be having served honorably in the armed forces of the United States and holding a valid amateur radio license. The Internet discussion group is a restricted one; therefore, the moderator would need to approve all requests for membership.

73, W7RJR

CW2, USA, Ret - Vietnam 67/68

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National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by KA5VCQ on February 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
I'll try to be there. That's the day before I report to Fort Jackson for recruiter school but I should have some time.

73,

SGT Korey Chandler
327 Signal Battalion (Airborne)
Fort Bragg, NC
 
National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by N3JBH on February 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Hey thanks Bob W7RJR for starting the ball rolling. I was the person whom submitted the statement to eham. And wow it wasn't actually my plan to set up such a group. I did have an interest in the idea.

I am very happy to see some has taken the idea and ran with it. I would think it would make for a wonderful club. Wouldn't it be wonderful to see just how many of us vets actually meet some of are long last brothers on the net. And I am sure there will be many hours of just good ole boot camp stories. Thanks again Bob and god bless. Jeff/n3jbh
 
RE: National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by K0BG on February 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Most unfortunately, the real heros won't be checking in except in sprit. Let's not forget them.

Alan, KØBG
www.k0bg.com
 
National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by W1FBI on February 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
I put the date in the log book-hope to make the net


S/Sgt Ed Gustat ,Ret
26 ID 126th Sig. Bn, Co. B
W1FBI
 
RE: National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by N0MUD on February 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Thats all well and good but what about us VETS that can't talk on that freq, I guess we are left out until we upgrade. I am only a Tech Plus so for me it's just a matter of taking the written test but I would like to join the group now. Guess the best I can do is just listen. Oh well.

Vietnam VETS FOREVER.....

Mike Dassero
NØmud
 
National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by KB7LYM on February 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
I think this is a great idea. However you wrote....
The only requirement for membership would be having served honorably in the armed forces of the United States and holding a valid amateur radio license.

There are many more Hams that served honorable.
I remember KOREA.
There we had France,Dutch,New Zealanders,Australians etc who together with the United States fought there.

So as I see fit you should change the article and include the other Armed Forces and make it International Veteran Ham Radio Club

Have a good day

KB7LYM
Frank Faber
H1 Mine Demolition
Royal Dutch Navy

Royal Dutch Navy
 
RE: National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by K8MHZ on February 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
"Thats all well and good but what about us VETS that can't talk on that freq, I guess we are left out until we upgrade. I am only a Tech Plus so for me it's just a matter of taking the written test but I would like to join the group now. Guess the best I can do is just listen. Oh well."

It sounds to me like you have the hard part behind you. I passed the General written test without studying for it. Granted, my job helped, but I sure found that getting my CW ticket was much harder than geting my General written.

But you do touch on a good point. If there is enough interest among ham vets with no HF ticket, you may want to look into either EchoLink or IRLP. A conference node can be set up and nets can be conducted just like on the radio. A cool thing about the Internet modes is that you can send text to the group at any time, the system queues the messages and displays them on the screen at the same time the voice traffic is coming through. With EchoLink you can come in either via computer or radio if you are near an EchoLink enabled rig. Some repeaters are and also some people have rigs on a simplex frequency.

If this sounds like a good idea to you please pay no mind to the EchoLink is not radio crowd. Dern tootin it isn't, but so what? Nyah!

73 and thanks,

Mark K8MHZ
 
RE: National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by K8MHZ on February 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
I noticed that 7.245 is the frequency for the net. There is a lot of activity on 7.248. For some of the guys it is their daily hang out. They run some pretty big radios. '245 is getting pretty close...I sure hope all of you can play nice together.

73,

Mark K8MHZ
 
National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by K0HEA on February 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Jeff, thanks for starting this discussion and putting a bug up our tails.

Bob, thanks for getting this thing off the ground. I am still waiting for the FCC to give me my call (had to start all over - let the thing lapse.

Alan, I only wish more people would recognize the sacrifices made.

Mike, I am in the same boat (Tech w/HF), but at least the CW and SSB nets for the Coast Guard nets are within the boundaries of a Tech License. (Nice callsign, I was looking at various vanity choices, and the callsign one of my ships came to mind (USCGC DILIGENCE/NMUD).

I am all for allowing Vets from other nations into our group, we all made the same committments to serve.

Mark, I had the rough time getting study time for the written. I almost fell asleep for the code, so slow. I wish that there was a rule that if you are participating on a club net, that the permissions could be waived for that freq during the net.

Well, I have blabbed enough, see you on the air when I get all set up. 73's to you and yours

Herb
 
RE: National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by N3JBH on February 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Some folks here asked a good question. If we are techs does this mean we can't belong to the club? I have some suggestions to who may ever start this club.

1. Have membership list so that members can join and support the club no matter there class of ticket and or location in the world.

2. Support local check in's via local area nets. That support local chapters of the club.

3. Create governing boards that shall over see and maintain a listing of all members and local affiliations.

4. Have a membership committee that is responsible for the verification of members.

5. Have a purpose. What is the main goal of the club? And what direction will it go?

6. Form a steering committee to make sure the club will indeed stay on track with its goals.

7. You'll need to form a constitiuention and bylaws and have them recorded and incorporated.

8. Publish a news letter to keep all members abreast of club news and meeting minutes.

If you do this and follow the other simple steps that are needed to form a club on this scale you'll do just fine. Sadly I am already well involved in a local club at this time. Or else I help. But I am sure with the right group a folks out there this effort would be a great success indeed. Thanks Jeff
 
National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by W9NM on February 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
W7RJR,
Reading some of the comments in this thread brings to mind several old axioms, predominated by: "No good deed goes unpunished."

Thanks for taking the lead in this.

Emil
W9NM
24th Inf Div
'66-69
 
RE: National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by KF4CZV on February 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Welcome to Columbia Sarge! I hope we'll get to meet each other on the Fort Jackson 2 meter repeater sometime.

Terry Hicks
KF4CZV
Columbia, SC
 
National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by W7RJR on February 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Just to answer a couple of questions.
The sked frequency of 7.245 was never intended to exclude Technicians. Were there more sunspots I may have even suggested 28.400. Certainly I am open to suggestions on how we can include the Techs!

For now at least, the technician class licensees can
join the internet group.

The question about opening the group to all veterans regardless of their nationality is a legitimate one.
I had envisioned the group having some lobbying power in the future. Not sure how that would work if it were international in scope?

I also envision setting up by-laws and a constitution and holding elections. This will be a group effort. The club will be designed, implemented and run by the members. Right now I am only offering a forum to accomplish that.

Please join the internet group and make your voice heard there. I believe what happens there will shape the future of the club.

73
 
RE: National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by KX8N on February 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
"Thats all well and good but what about us VETS that can't talk on that freq, I guess we are left out until we upgrade."

What do you expect him to do? If he makes it above 30 mhz, nobody's going to be able to hear him beyond more than a 60 mile radius or so (generally speaking).

If you are serious, then maybe that's your incentive to upgrade. But I'm sorry, all national nets are on HF. You just have to deal with that fact.
 
National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by KG4YJR on February 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Interesting,

No veteran NCT's would be allowed to participate (except for listening) on those frequecies and that would include the war time and/or disabled war time NCT's too. Was this intentional or overlooked? But then again it's also your party and you can invite who you want to.
I guess I'll just stick with my American Legion membership for now.

73
 
RE: National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by W7RJR on February 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Dave, KG4YGR

There is no intent to exclude NCTs. It is unfortunate that national level skeds can only occur on HF frequencies. Again, I am open to suggestions on how we can include every licensed ham.

In the interim, I hope you will join the group on the internet.

73

 
National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by NN7B on February 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
One of the reasons for the Yahoo internet group is so everyone of any class license can participate in the group. You don't have to be on 40m to be part of the forum.

73 & Semper Fi!
Paul Cavnar - NN7B
USMC 68-72
Bio on QRZ
 
National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by NN7B on February 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
One of the reasons for the Yahoo internet group is so everyone of any class license can participate in the group. You don't have to be on 40m to be part of the forum.

73 & Semper Fi!
Paul Cavnar - NN7B
USMC 68-72
Bio on QRZ
 
RE: National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by KF4CZV on February 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
I don't really understand why the big hullabaloo over the net being on HF. I'm a no code tech myself and I figured out right away why a national net has to be on those freqs; because that's just the nature of radio. Maybe we NCTs can simply get together with the other tech members in our area for a local net? At least until we upgrade. I just passsed the written test this weekend so I'm halfway to General now. I already have my HF rig thanks to another member here so I'll be content to listen in until I can join in!

Terry
KF4CZV
 
RE: National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by KG4YJR on February 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Good afternoon Bob,

Would you consider making the messages of the group public? It would give some of us a little more information of what the group is about and what are it's main priorities. I would be happy to support the group and it's efforts as long as I know that it is in fact a group that places veterans as the top priority with the hobby as the second. Not trying to tell anyone how to run their group, just my preference which is:

#1 Veterans come first.

73
Dave
 
RE: National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by WT0A on February 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
echolink
 
RE: National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by AC7DX on February 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
"Thats all well and good but what about us VETS that can't talk on that freq, I guess we are left out until we upgrade. I am only a Tech Plus so for me it's just a matter of taking the written test but I would like to join the group now. Guess the best I can do is just listen. Oh well."

For ch#@$ sakes UPGRADE and stop whinning!!! They are giving the license's away now.

 
RE: National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by N6AJR on February 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
I am glad you took the reigns on this one BOB, I am inherrently lazy and have little ambition on a regular basis, but I applaude your efforts.

Folks, to be on a national or international basis it will have to be based on HF or HF and some type of internet link , like irlp. I don't know Irlp so perhaps someone can do an irlp set up or something.

I like the idea of the international club. I met lots of folks in Korea, and Nam that were from other countries, and International participoation will give us a view from a different perspective. I think as gaining political clout this will be a boon too,

What of the idea if folks we used to fight I.E. from Nam, Russia or others, who we are now at peace with becoming members..

Perhaps we can all come to deal with those old ghosts that linger in our closets?? its a thought, I think I could welcome a ex-enemy, and perhaps we should, as this world goes on weather we do or not.

Vetrens always fight for what is correct for their country, so these guys are really no different than us.. we just had different perspectives..

any how, welcome to all, and finally there is a place perhaps were we can finally talk about that which we have held in, ya had to be there to under stand.. same as nay war..

I talked to one of my nephews who did dessert storm, and althought they got respect on returning, they still have the ghosts , so we all are brothers and sisters, with the common thread, I hope that makes some sense. And lets welcome the doughnut dollies and nurses and other Brave ladies from the field..

36 years ago and it was just like yesterday..can you still smell it, and duck when you hear a huey overhead??, still sit with your back to the wall, Sleap Apnea, jump on loud noises, and salute the flag even when no one is looking.. wow, I wish I could put down the emotions I am feeling just thinking about this stuff., and I had it easy, I was Air Force..

lets keep the Yahoo group going, and try to get this on the air.. and a steering committie sounds good, and perhaps a web page if someone can do that.. and so on.

I think its a great idea, long over due..

tom N6AJR
 
RE: National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by W7RJR on February 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Dave, KG4YJR

I have a vision about what this group could become. I would like to share it with those interested. Veterans will always come first! I love our amateur radio hobby but it must always be second to the needs of our veterans. I envision a group that may eventually affiliate with veteran groups such as VFW,DAV, American Legion, etc. I see a group that with enough members with people in the right places may lobby benefits for veterans as well as amateur radio operators. I see an organization that exists solely for the purpose of it's members and nothing else. I see a web page that can be used to locate and facilitate communication with old buddies and unit reunions. I see a contest for members. I can see a group that becomes concerned about the health and welfare of our veterans. I see a group that will go out of it's way to welcome home and support our veterans.

This only touches upon what can happen if such a group is successful. There will no doubt be many difficulties along the way. I hope that we can all put aside our differences and make such a dream come true.

Thanks for listening. Thanks to all the veterans who have fought, served and died for our freedom.


73, W7RJR


 
RE: National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by N3JBH on February 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
God Bless all you folks ! my heart is just so proud right now. i allways knew there was a bond amoung verterans. i never new it would really start all this.

Bob thank you for starting the ball rolling. tom you said you had it easy. you didnt my freind. we all gave and we all pulled the load. our brother's out there that gave all should never be forgotten. as they know the price of freedom.

but we all our vets and we served our great country. we all had what it took to get the job done. and while the VFW and DAV and legion are great orginaztions. this club has some thing they dont have. the abilty to tell anyone anywhere how we felt and what we care about in a real time fashion.

The power of radio. yes we will cross boarders we will talk to the one time foe. and we will have found peace with our selves buy just knowing some thing great will become of this.

we allways been proud. now lets be heard. support this group and get on the air. agian God Bless the Vets.

N3JBH Jeff U.S. ARMY serving proudly trough the 70's
 
RE: National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by LNXAUTHOR on February 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
- let's get on the air!

BZ,

CWO3, USCG (ret.)
 
RE: National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by KG8JF on February 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
To: all the NCTs that feel they have been left out; what better motivation is there to upgrade that this National Veteran's Radio Club. I say go for it.
 
RE: National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by W4NTI on February 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Hey Bob....DA1RA...this is Dan DA2LJ and now W4NTI.
How goes it? See your still rocking the boat. And that's a good thing. Hey folks....Bob is a straight arrow, says what he means, and means what he says.

For what its worth BOB...I love your idea's on this group. Count me in anyway you want.

Someone mentioned the need for a NCS. I'm pretty well set-up here, and Bob can attest I know how to operate. Available if needed. My E-mail is on QRZ.

Here is my info: 12 years total service, all active duty. Air Force 64-68, Okinawa, Vietnam//Army 71-79/Germany and Ft. McClellan AL.

Mostly signal outfits, and of course Vietnam as a Forward Air Controller, caught TET in Saigon, or should I say visa-versa.

Now retired at 100% under VA due to all that fun in the sun.

Dan/W4NTI


 
RE: National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by W4NTI on February 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
PLEASE PLEASE....let us not get into another CW vs NO CW debate.

As long as the FCC requires CW (5 wpm) for a HF license, then that is what you have to do. If you don't want, or claim you can't do it, then your right. Oh well.

This is NOT what we are doing here.

Dan/W4NTI
 
RE: National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by KX7N on February 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
If we do this why not provide them (The NCT's) the training? Heck gives me a reason to get certified for a VEC.

Mike Lane
US ARMY (1984-1999)
KX7N
 
RE: National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by ERNESTTHOMPSONEXK4EAT on February 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
I wish everyone luck. Its a good idea. Its been tried several times before but maybe this time it will work since we can also use the internet to post times and skeds...

I think the most important thing is just to get on the air, pick a NCS, and lets get talking.

Already this is less then 12 hours old and we have NCT people saying "well if I can't get on HF then we need to find another way".

I think that the only way this will work is to do HF for us guys that have our full certs and echolink for the NCTs ... unless the NCTs have found a way to get 2000 miles on a radio above 30Mhz. LOL

Of course once we get past the NCT guys complaining about being left out you will have someone from MARS probably jump in and want to take over and squash any further good ideas.

Anyway, good luck, and i will see you there.
 
National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by W4GRY on February 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Sounds like a GREAT idea. What exactly type of net would it be? In my opinion, there are enough traffic handling nets already. An "ol' fashion" RAGCHEWERS net would be refreshing.....as long as politics and religion are avoided. They just create arguments from which nobody emerges a winner (only resentments).
I'll be there if I can keep from dozing off...ZZZZZZZZ.

Gerald B. Lasitter, W4GRY
Major, U.S. Army Signal Corps
Post-Vietnam RIF
1961 - 1975
 
National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by W7CO on February 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Good idea Bob. I have a solution for the Techs. Break out your General Class Study Guide and upgrade. If you are a Vet then this is a no brainer. In my humble Navy career I learned that if I wanted to play with the big boys I better get my brain and rear end in gear. BTW the code test IS NOT a stumbling block to anyone who wants it bad enough.

I don't care what the PC folks tell you, there is no free lunch.

M.E. LaCombe CWO4/USN/Ret RVN 66-67
 
RE: National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by K0HEA on February 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
I just passed Elements 1 & 2 - already studying for Element 3 - shack starting to shape up. I may miss a few skeds, but that's OK...

It's nice to know for sure what I have told the XYL all along. The Vet community is as strong as any other out there.
 
National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by MACGUFFIN on February 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Just curious. I turn 32 next month and am a veteran of Enduring Freedom. How many people my age could I expect to hear? I don't have an HF transmitter yet, but I should be able to listen in.
 
RE: National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by WA5WRE on February 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Dear Mike:

The license may not let you participate, but being a Vietnam Vet, you will always be remember-
ed by this Vet, and many more. Just thought I'd let you know. Take care, and the best of 73's Jim WA5WRE (Vietnam 1967-70) Swifty
 
RE: National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by N6AJR on February 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Hey folks , a Vet is a Vet, you been there, done that, got the T shirt. welcome Vets, one and all, this is not about ham radio first, this is about Vets who are hams,

Join the Yahoo group, , got a computer whiz out there who can set up a good web page for the group, some one have a computer we can park it on..

I am Proud of the responces so far, Vets, , good job.. tom N6AJR
 
National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by N5XM on February 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
This is a great idea. I guess I wouldn't be eligible to participate because I am not a veteran. That is unfortunate, at least for me. One of my very favorite things to do is to work those who served as radiomen in wartime. There are lots of these folks on CW, and the first thing I do when they tell me they were radiomen is thank them for their service. My Dad was a Marine in WW2, so while I never served, I was raised in a Marine family, and that should count for something. Along that line, let me thank all of you who did serve America and her citizens in wartime, and even those of you who didn't serve during a War. I was very lucky my Dad was at a gigantic ammo dump in Panama, or I would not be here now because had he seen battle, he would have been one of the first sob's up whatever hill there would have been.

Frankly, I wish you would allow anyone who wants to participate in such a net to participate, even if they were not allowed membership. I hardly ever get on ssb, but I guarantee you I would get on for something like this. I sure hope it is a success. God Bless all of you. Richard, n5xm
 
RE: National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by W6TH on February 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
.

Good show.

............ Veteran Of Foreign Wars, WW2........

............Burma...

W6TH.

.:
 
National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by W5VK on February 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Thank you for a fine idea. Sign me up.

CW4 Steven D Evans (Ret)
W5VK
 
RE: National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by NL7W on February 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Great idea... sign me up, too!

Steve, NL7W
 
National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by N8PHU on February 6, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Cool idea!

Chris Hackworth
N8PHU
ET1(SW) USN (Retired)
USS Belknap CG-26
USS Peterson DD-969
May they both sail the waves forever.....
Desert Shield/Desert storm/Gulf War 1 vet
 
National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by N5JCG on February 7, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
All I receive on 40 meters at that time of day is South American Music. Probably be better on another band. Great Idea.

Mel Oubre
USN (ret)
Vietnam 66/67/73
 
RE: National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by K9FV on February 7, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Great Idea there folks - just wish I could join, but I volunteered for the Navy in '67 and rejected, then volunteered for the Army a month later and rejected by them.... so I'm left out in the cold - AGAIN.

Good luck with the group, and I especially like the idea of vets from ALL countries being included.

73 de Ken H>
 
National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by W7RJR on February 7, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
I've been giving some thought as to how our NCTs and Technicians can participate in scheduled nets.

I was wondering if it would be possible (and legal) to patch in an Echolink node to the net frequency?
As long as there was a control operator it seems like it should be legal.

Anyone care to comment?

73, W7RJR
 
National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by N4RLL on February 7, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Good deal - I'll be there, deployments permitting.

ATC(AW/SW), USN
 
RE: National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by RobertKoernerExAE7G on February 7, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Best of luck on your new net.

Seems like a good starting point.

73
Bob
 
RE: National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by N6AJR on February 7, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
we could always make folks who are intrested but not Vets an associate member.. ?? any comments, good idea, bad idea..

tom N6AJR
 
RE: National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by N3JBH on February 7, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
well tom i guess it could work. but how would decern in the way they would be roconized in the net? would all vet's have member/net number and assocaite's would not.

i am pretty sure by just talking to them we know who was and wasnt a vet in time. but i think we need away to segregate them on here. any idea's jeff
 
RE: National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by N3OYA on February 7, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Great idea, guys! I'd like to join in, but I'm currently without an HF station. No worries, though.

I volunteer to host the website. I'll do the design, host the site, and all. I'll also set up forums and an email list, if you like.

My private email should be in my profile; you can definitely reach me by finding my email address on QRZ.com

73,

Bob, N3OYA
PDB Signal Co, 4th POG (A) 1991-1995
HHC, 2-112 INF, 28 ID (M) 1995-1999
 
RE: National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by N3OYA on February 7, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
And, by the by, as a serviceman who has served with foreign troops, I support calling the organization the "International Veterans Amateur Radio Club".

As for organization, let's not get too caught up in the details. Full membership requirements should be minimal, like 1., be a radio amateur; 2. be a veteran of the armed services of a country. Easy. Simple. I for one don't need to see a copy of a prospective member's DD-214 (in the case of US vets) to trust that he's eligible.

I also think we should permit fellows to join like the fellow who wrote above that he enjoys working veteran radio operators; at least he should be allowed to work the net, so he can get his jones.

My two cents.

Anyway, I'm excited! =) I'm working on a website idea even now...
 
National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by K0HEA on February 7, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
"well tom i guess it could work. but how would decern in the way they would be rocognized in the net? would all vet's have member/net number and associaite's would not."

The orginal members of the CGCWOA adopted an unused military Z-signal for its primary name, and in reaction to the increasing use of radio teletype (RATT) over CW, assigned it the meaning of "CW FOREVER."

Go to www.comm-one.org for more info.

As for checking into the net - run it like an OBS Sked - give each member a QRY (your turn is) number. And the NCS can then 'poll' each memebr in turn for their comments.

At least if worked in the 'old Guard' having as many as 30 ships waiting their turn.

73's

Herb
 
RE: National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by W7RJR on February 7, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
N3OYA

I am in the process of putting together a steering committee of current members to answer some of the things you have suggested. I believe we will discuss things such as associate membership, non-member participation in the nets and whether we want to undertake an international effort at this time.
Personally I would have nothing against anyone checking into the net regardless of membership status. I will be asking for visitor check-ins.

Right now, membership is limited to those with valid amateur radio licenses and having served with the armed forces of the United States. For now, I require no proof of anything other than your callsign.

Please join the internet group so your voice may be heard there as well.

73

I have been very inspired by the positive response to this club.
 
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by KC8VSF on February 7, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Bob,

A suggestion for the Operators that have passed the code, but are not full General Operators. How about having a couple of 10 meter nets and then get back with the NCS on 40 meters with a total check ins. That might solve a little of the problem.

Just my thoughts.

LeRoy
KC8VSF
SGT/US Army
 
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by N6AJR on February 7, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
This is turning ito something amazing.. or as Emerril Lagasie would say, Can You Feel The Love,

wow, it is gettin a life of its own. lets get together on the air, when ever we can, build a web page with pertinant info, joing the yahoo group and keep adding here.,

so we start on the 12th at 6 pm and go from there, we could have a nother net on 80 late at night, or what ever we choose. as long as we get together, it doesn't matter.. look at the 3905 century club, they meet several time a day on several bands.. anything can be done, we can set it up , its our club..

you'all kick it around and do what we need, we start her and then go.. some day a convention, a group hug, a thousand or so vets at Dayton all saying HI, a veterns day celebration in golden gate park in San Francisco, what ever we choose folks, we are the Vets and we CAN DO IT!!

some one want to design and print up some bumper stickers and sell them to the members with the Veterans Ham Radio Club on them, Hats, Motorcycle jackets, Hey, what ever we choose, .

I think this could be bigger than we could possibly imagine, lets start on the 12th at 6 pm PST ( 0200 zulu on the 13th?) and see how we do, and go from there..

This is one great country, ain't it.

tom N6AJR
USAF 1966-1974
 
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by WB0HZL on February 7, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Hey this sounds like a great idea - now I just have to get the antenna up at the new QTH. I'll be there in spirit for now. I plan to join the yahoo group to follow what is going on.

I have a lot of ham friends who also served, would like to chat with them again - how time flies. It seems like yesterday that I took my oath.

I handled a lot of traffic for the patients at Fitzsimons AMC in the 70s, but there is nothing like a good old fashioned rag chew net. See you on the airwaves.

73,
Trent Hays WB0HZL
Captain, Chemical Corps
US Army Retired Reserve
 
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by WA8VBX on February 8, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
I would like to say hello to all the vets here and thank you for your service be it war or peace time.

I noticed that the net is at a time here in the great lakes, when about all you can hear is foreign broadcast, what is the possibility of having one a little earlier for those of us on east coast?

Looking forward to qso's with others.
73
Kurt
WA8VBX
SSG US Army (Retired)
 
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by N0MUD on February 8, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Well just to reiterate, I am NOT a NCT but a coded Tech Plus and have been since 1987. And NO this not I repeat NOT a code vs code so please don't go there. I am just saying I do have HF capabilities even tho it is only 10 meters, I do have it and have had it since 1987. Granted if we did the freq of 28.400 we are still going to leave out the Techs that are NCT's. I suppose we have to start somewhere, so if it is somewhere I can't go at least I can listen, I have radios and antennas that will let me listen for the time being. If it does work out and we can move up to the 10 meter band then that will help alot of us. Again I don't believe tying up the IRLP frequency is going to be the answer as there might be folks out there that has skeds to keep and if we tye up the freq then we've just made another enemy and we don't want that.

It will all work out we just have to give it a chance, but let's get started first and see how it works, then we can add or delete as needed.

As far as Vet vs Vet we all served. I don't envision this HAM radio Veteran group being a lobbying group to get more of this or that, we just want a group to get started and we already have two things in common, WE ARE VETERANS AND WE ARE HAM RADIO OPERATORS.

73's Mike
NØmud
RM1/MA1 US Navy Ret.
 
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by KN4LF on February 8, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
I joined the Yahoo eGroup yesterday evening and look forward to the net on 7245 kc and the interaction via email on the eGroup.

But if I may play Devil's Advocate for a moment, we are already allowing political correctness to creep into the organizational process. Way to much worry about being all inclusive and it's plain silly.

If you are not an honorably discharged veteran you do not belong to the club. If you are not a U.S. veteran you do not belong to the club. If you are a no code Technician without phone privelidges or a 10 meter phone Technician, study and upgrade to General class and then you get to check into the 40 meter net. That's the way it should be in my personal opnion.

It reminds me of when I was onboard my first U.S. Coast Guard Cutter, the Hamilton WHEC-715 in 1976. I was an E-2/SA then E-3/SN and bunked in a smelly 30 man berthing area. The PO1/E-6 Coasties slept in 5 man berthing areas and had there own E-6 lounge.

If I had of complained of the accomadations I would have ended up a permanent mess cook and laughing stock. Instead I didn't whine I studied and became a PO1/E-6 and guess where I slept?!

Just my .02.

--... ...--,
Thomas Giella, KN4LF
Lakeland, FL, USA
http://www.kn4lf.com
 
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by W9HZ on February 8, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Maybe someone has already asked, but I missed the answer.....
How will you verify that some one is actually a veteran?
Lots of fakes and wannabes out there.

Mitch W9HZ
A 1/75 (RGR ABN)
 
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by W7RJR on February 8, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
W9HZ said, "How will you verify that some one is actually a veteran?"

Right now I'm not. I see this adventure as more than just a discussion group. I am working with several others in the group to make it a full fledged club.
Once officers are elected they can decide how far they want to take that process.

Thanks for asking.

73

 
RE: National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by N6AJR on February 8, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
who cares, If non vets want to join thats ok too, there are som "non vets" out there, that were big helps, how about the doughnut dollies, they put in their year in country, and some of the civilians, how about the merchant marines who dilivered the boat loads of supplies.. folks there are a lot of folks who can come to my house and join me for a beer, not all of them are Vets, but they all did the time..

I sy, who cares.. thank goodness, someone finally cares.. as a nam vet, I am glad to hear some one happy to talk to me , I am tired of being despised for doing what the military has always done, follow orders,

it was the politicians, and LBJ in particular that miocromanaged our war, that screwed it all up.. If they would have let the military run it , Nam might be a democracy today.. don't sweat the little folks.. they are welcome in my book..
 
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by KILOWATT on February 9, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
And so what do you and the others here consider a "veteran"?

Anyone that has served in the military or only the military members that just so happened to be active duty during a conflict?

I am a veteran of the U.S. Army BUT nothing but peace broke-out during my four years. There was Granada but that was mopped up quite quickly and with very few miltary members being involved.

If my miltary status doesn't qualify me, let me just add that I'm a 100% CW operator and got my license back when it took 13 wpm to qualify for General.

Hahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe I'm the only one that got that.

 
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by NN7B on February 10, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Reading all these posts and bits of stories where people served has made me proud to be part of this group. What a great country we live in having the liberty to assemble a group such as this and the freedom to enjoy it as well. It is those in this group and many more who are not that have made this possible. It's sort of like the bumper sticker I see at times that reads: "IF YOU CAN READ THIS, THANK A VET!" When you get down to basics, that's where history was changed or preserved for future generations.

The question was posed as to what qualifies a 'veteran' and I would be inclined to feel that anyone who served on active duty in any of the branches of the military at any time qualifies. And, this would include those who served in the merchant marine service many of whom were also radio operators. And those men braved the seas many without military escort or means of defense to supply the war effort.

I see no reason to require verification of anyone's service. By far the majority of hams I have met and moreso those who are veterans are not people who intentionally mislead or deceive others. Those who do are usually not long for being discovered and they are not likely to present themselves here.

What does it benefit someone to fabricate a story of military service within this group? Most of us could easily see through a fabricated story anyway.

A few of us are WW-II vets and they are dwindling in numbers. Some served in Korea, several through Viet Nam, the Gulf War and a few are even Iraq war veterans. There are several who did not serve during a time of conflict yet that does not lessen to any degree their service to our country. They were there doing their jobs and maintaining our security nonetheless and certainly as much a part of this group as the hardened combat veteran.

Military rank really is not a factor either since one achieves a higher rank due to the ability to handle a higher degree of responsibility with each step. We all served and we were all responsible for different things at different levels and the bottom line is we all served TOGETHER! Certainly, a "band of brothers and sisters" to be proud of.

I envision this club being an organization that promotes the recognition of the military service person first and an amateur radio hobbiest second. Ham radio has a way of being people together moreso than any other hobby I know of and it facilitates the comraderie and fellowship in a way that doesn't require meeting in person or spending money to travel. On the air and in our internet forums, we can share and enjoy each others experiences, provide information and advice to those asking and promote good will through amateur radio.

So, I would say to those reading my message that this is the opportunity to spread the word about a 'good thing' that is going on for out veterans and fellow hams. The more we have participate, the stronger and better we become. As for me, it is a pleasure just to read about the others and I have already made a few new friends just in the last week that served at the same time and place as I and swapping stores has been great!

I would enjoy contact with anyone especially with fellow Marine Corps CW operators serving from 1964 on. CW isn't for everyone, it just happens to be my favorite. I did discover a new motto though, "If you don't know code, you don't know dit!" :)

73, Paul Cavnar - NN7B
USMC CW Opr. '68-'72
 
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by K4EQQ on February 10, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Bob - Thanks so much for creating this group on Yahoo. Many of us older Baby Boomers are nearing 60 years old and it's wonderful to restablish contact with so many past friends both in Ham Radio and in the military. I've never actually connected with anyone that was in my unit(s) that was a ham, but this group should prove to shed some light on those "old" relationships.

Again thanks Bob, you're the man!!

Dean, K4EQQ
Evans, GA
 
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by KI4LLU on February 10, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
I am enthused about the idea, I am tech licensed just since September, but I would be interested in trying this Echo-link thing if I can figure out how to actually utilize the thing (LOL) I do not have any HF equipment, nor any way to set it up, even if I did. I will experiment with echolink to see if I can actually make a qso between now and then. I am from the age before everyone and their grandmother had computers.
Thanks for all the efforts.
Stan "Doc" Stadig
US Army Retired
 
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by KD5DFM on February 10, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
ahhhhhh Fort Jackson S.C. .. did Basic and AIT there in 1984 as i was a cook and it had the cooking school . during my basic they had a air born company training basic with us . good luck in your studies and Military career and hope to hear you on the air one day kd5dfm John Lepire .
 
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by KD5DFM on February 10, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
>Mike, I am in the same boat (Tech w/HF), but at least >the CW and SSB nets for the Coast Guard nets are >within the boundaries of a Tech License. (Nice >callsign, I was looking at various vanity choices, >and the callsign one of my ships came to mind (USCGC> DILIGENCE/NMUD).

if you guys did basic you can sure do this , nothing to it really . i did it and i was surprised i passed basic lol ;-) but i did ;-) . never hurts to start a smaller one on high freq in your local area as well until then .... why not ;-) KD5DFM john
 
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by KD5DFM on February 10, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
>Welcome to Columbia Sarge! I hope we'll get to meet >each other on the Fort Jackson 2 meter repeater >sometime.
>Terry Hicks
>KF4CZV
>Columbia, SC

alright terry ;-) yall remember me on tank hill ;-) or with all those 71 Limas as i cooked perminate party there for a while after basic and AIT ;-) yall ham it up and hope one day to hear ya on the air waves kd5dfm
 
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by KC2NOD on February 11, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
A thought occurred to me as I was reading this thread, (I'm just a lowly tech trying to learn code)But what if, God Forbid, our country was attacked by terrorists or .... and there was no communication available to most people. Most of us vets have learned in the service to be aware of whats going on around us and it would be nice to have a 'net' to tune to for trusted info from other vets
 
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by NN7B on February 11, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
KC2NOD - Your e-mail address on QRZ bounces. I would like to contact you directly. Please contact me with your address at: cavnar [at] gbis.com.

John opens an interesting subject here and it would be a good discussion for another forum too. 73, Paul - NN7B
 
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by N6AJR on February 12, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
well we had about a half dozen folks check in on the air and a couple more on the link.. so its off to a start, We may need to adjust the time or band due to propagation difficulties, but I am honored to be a menber of this group with folks going back 6 decades in defense of our country, An honor to serve, 73 tom N6AJR
 
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by N6AJR on February 12, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
I just found out there is also a chat room associated with the Yahoo group, so perhaps we can include that as a checkin source next week. sign on to the yahoo group, and on the left side is a box and check on chat and wait a minute and you are in.. we will look there next week.. eh
 
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by W7RJR on February 13, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
I would like to encourage those that read this article to consider joining the internet discussion group. We have just posted a recommended Constitution for members to vote upon. Join the group, cast your vote and help create this club. We need members who can help us develop a web page, develop an Echolink conference node, act as Net Control Station. We need members who can display leadership and guide us to success. We need you!

If approved, the constitution will authorize non-veteran associate members who no doubt can make many contributions to our club.

When joining, please be sure to include your veteran status and callsign to satisfy the requirements for full voting membership. Please spread the word, mention it at club meetings and to your friends!

73
 
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by N1HLE on February 13, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
i think this a great for all veterans when the bugs get worked out it will be a fun net to have.
thx for the idea and your work behind it
 
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by KC9IRR on February 14, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Well this sounds like a good idea to me.I just got my tech ticket last month so I am really new to ham radio.I have been studying the code but having much difficulty as I have a severe hearing loss.Seems my hearing was damaged about 35 years ago from some gun shooting.So I don't know if I'll get the code or not.But,I am perfectly satisfied to listen in.I'm not much of a talker anyway.I don't think anyone needs to worry to much about fake wannabe vets.You can usually spot them pretty quick.Welcome Home.
169th Eng.Bn. RVN May69/Dec 70
 
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by W7RJR on February 17, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
As of 2/17 we have 133 members in the discussion group. We are holding another NET this Sunday, 2/19 on 14.285 Mhz +/- QRM at 1 PM PST. Visitor check-ins are welcome.

I would like to take a moment to thank our host, Eham.net and Clinton AB7RG for allowing me to post this information and start this group!

Remember our Veterans!

73
 
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by K3MP on February 21, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
When is the next login time...missed the first one 73 from K3MP Mark
Served aboard USS Denebola AF-56 (Call sign NBRF)
 
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by KB9FMV on February 22, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
I hate to say it but the tech plus guys you can use the internet and send messages to yahoo at our web site about the context of the net and the developement of it ! I think as time goes on with the net it probably will move to different time zones in the US and even different bands ! Its not to say that inconjuction with this group and othere nets you can develope other spin off nets on 2 meters,220 or 440 or six meters ! Now there is a nice thought maybe even six meters down the road US VETS NEED TO STICK TOGEHTER! That is something we are all lacking now a days ! I can remember when my Dad took me to his VFW Post and American Legion Hall and all the vets there always stuck together! We need to do that all the time ! Plus it always builds good friendships !

73's
Paul
KB9FMV
K9PLK
RVN 69/70 US ARMY
 
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by KB9FMV on February 22, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
I hate to say it but the tech plus guys you can use the internet and send messages to yahoo at our web site about the context of the net and the developement of it ! I think as time goes on with the net it probably will move to different time zones in the US and even different bands ! Its not to say that inconjuction with this group and othere nets you can develope other spin off nets on 2 meters,220 or 440 or six meters ! Now there is a nice thought maybe even six meters down the road US VETS NEED TO STICK TOGEHTER! That is something we are all lacking now a days ! I can remember when my Dad took me to his VFW Post and American Legion Hall and all the vets there always stuck together! We need to do that all the time ! Plus it always builds good friendships !

73's
Paul
KB9FMV
K9PLK
RVN 69/70 US ARMY
 
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by KB9FMV on February 22, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
I hate to say it but the tech plus guys you can use the internet and send messages to yahoo at our web site about the context of the net and the developement of it ! I think as time goes on with the net it probably will move to different time zones in the US and even different bands ! Its not to say that inconjuction with this group and othere nets you can develope other spin off nets on 2 meters,220 or 440 or six meters ! Now there is a nice thought maybe even six meters down the road US VETS NEED TO STICK TOGEHTER! That is something we are all lacking now a days ! I can remember when my Dad took me to his VFW Post and American Legion Hall and all the vets there always stuck together! We need to do that all the time ! Plus it always builds good friendships !

73's
Paul
KB9FMV
K9PLK
RVN 69/70 US ARMY
 
National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by KB9FMV on February 22, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
I hate to say it but the tech plus guys you can use the internet and send messages to yahoo at our web site about the context of the net and the developement of it ! I think as time goes on with the net it probably will move to different time zones in the US and even different bands ! Its not to say that inconjuction with this group and othere nets you can develope other spin off nets on 2 meters,220 or 440 or six meters ! Now there is a nice thought maybe even six meters down the road US VETS NEED TO STICK TOGEHTER! That is something we are all lacking now a days ! I can remember when my Dad took me to his VFW Post and American Legion Hall and all the vets there always stuck together! We need to do that all the time ! Plus it always builds good friendships !

73's
Paul
KB9FMV
K9PLK
RVN 69/70 US ARMY
 
National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by KB9FMV on February 22, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
I hate to say it but the tech plus guys you can use the internet and send messages to yahoo at our web site about the context of the net and the developement of it ! I think as time goes on with the net it probably will move to different time zones in the US and even different bands ! Its not to say that inconjuction with this group and othere nets you can develope other spin off nets on 2 meters,220 or 440 or six meters ! Now there is a nice thought maybe even six meters down the road US VETS NEED TO STICK TOGEHTER! That is something we are all lacking now a days ! I can remember when my Dad took me to his VFW Post and American Legion Hall and all the vets there always stuck together! We need to do that all the time ! Plus it always builds good friendships !

73's
Paul
KB9FMV
K9PLK
RVN 69/70 US ARMY
 
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by WS8RM on February 23, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Feb 23

I missed the date! Did you form a group or establish a net?

If so, where and when?

WS8RM
 
RE: National Veterans Ham Radio Club  
by W7RJR on February 23, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
The next scheduled NET is on Sunday, 2/26 at 1700 UTC on or about 14.345 Mhz +/- QRM or other NETS. Visitor checkins are welcome.
 
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by W7RJR on March 4, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Next HF net on Sunday, 3/5/06 on 14.345 Mhz at 2000 hours UTC.
 
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