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Inexpensive FT-8800R Separation Cable

from kb6rey on March 12, 2006
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Inexpensive FT-8800R remote cable Kit from Radio Shack.

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Catalog Number: 279-422

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Catalog Number: 279-434

  1. Remove head from radio.

  2. Unplug modular cable from head unit.

  3. Leave the short modular cable attached to radio.

  4. Attach above adaptor to modular cable on radio.

  5. Plug one end of new cord into modular adaptor.

  6. Connect the remaining connector into the head unit.

  7. You are ready to transmit.

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Inexpensive FT-8800R Separation Cable  
by KG4RUL on March 12, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Now that's a switch. Something useful that you can STILL buy at RatShack!

Dennis KG4RUL
 
RE: Inexpensive FT-8800R Separation Cable  
by KD4AC on March 12, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
That's until they fully convert over to being nothing more than a place to buy cell phones and off brand entertainment electronics.
 
Inexpensive FT-8800R Separation Cable  
by K4JC on March 12, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
RadioShack: You've got questions, so do we!
 
RE: Inexpensive FT-8800R Separation Cable  
by KG6WLS on March 12, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Radio Shack: "You've got questions, we've got pink slips."

I'm sure thay'll find a new job at some cell phone kiosk in the shopping mall.


***Leave the short modular cable attached to radio.


Attach above adaptor to modular cable on radio.


Plug one end of new cord into modular adaptor.***


What's the adapter (coupler) for? I've used a crimp tool with RJ25 ends and cable. Plug straight in between radio and head.
 
RE: Inexpensive FT-8800R Separation Cable  
by W7COM on March 12, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
The standard phone cable is a "flip". The thing in the middle unfilps it. Cost wise, it's about the same to buy the long 6-wire cable, tool and crimps. Then you can make it to length.
 
RE: Inexpensive FT-8800R Separation Cable  
by W7COM on March 12, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Actually the thing in the middle doesn't unflip it. Putting two flips back-to-back makes an unflip.

RIP, Flip Wilson!
 
RE: Inexpensive FT-8800R Separation Cable  
by KG6WLS on March 12, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
If the standard phone cable is a "flip", and the thing in the middle doesn't "unflip" it. Then, putting two "flips" back-to-back makes an "unflip".

Now I'm "flip"in' confused. =)

Flip Wilson: "Watch it sucka'"
 
RE: Inexpensive FT-8800R Separation Cable  
by N0IU on March 12, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Radio Shack:
Inline Coupler = $5.19
25' Line Cord = $9.69
No. Of Stores Closing = 700

Wal Mart:
Inline Coupler = $3.24
25' Line Cord = $5.96
No. Of Stores Closing = 0




 
Inexpensive FT-8800R Separation Cable  
by K4CC on March 12, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Radio Shack:
Inline Coupler = $5.19
25' Line Cord = $9.69
Stumping the clerk = PRICELESS
MONSTERCARD
 
RE: Inexpensive FT-8800R Separation Cable  
by K4JC on March 12, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
RadioShack employee (including management): Yessir, can I help you?

Ham: Yes, I need an inline coupler and a 25' line cord. (Or, PL-259, soldering iron tips, or anything not cell phone or consumer audio-related.)

Employee (now sporting a dumbfounded look): Uhhh, I don't think we carry those...

Ham: Sure you do, let me show you where they are!

Ham leads Employee to parts section.

Employee (including management): Gee, I didn't know we had those...

I have had a similar conversation more times than I can count. How about you?
 
RE: Inexpensive FT-8800R Separation Cable  
by KG6WLS on March 12, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
**I have had a similar conversation more times than I can count. How about you?**

Uh, huh.

Ham: I'm looking for some PL-259's for RG-8X?

Employee: What's the application for?

Ham: An RF connector for ham radio.

Employee: Ham radio? Is that CB? Maybe can I intrest you in a new cell phone?

Ham: (walks away) Grrrrr!

 
Inexpensive FT-8800R Separation Cable  
by AD5KL on March 12, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
I just save myself the grief when I go to the rat shack. I get the stock # from the website & give it to the kid, I mean clerk behind the counter. Then I don't have to listen to 10 minutes of "I don't think we have those" or "I've never heard of that" etc.

Ano no I don't need an extended warranty with that connector. Thanks for asking.
 
RE: Inexpensive FT-8800R Separation Cable  
by W5GGW on March 12, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
You don't need an in line coupler. They have 6-wire telephone extension cables at WalMart. That's all that you need. Buy one thats longer than you need now, and coil away the extra for the next use.
 
Inexpensive FT-8800R Separation Cable  
by AD5KL on March 12, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Oh yeah, don't get me started on those stupid mail-in rebates. Not just Shack but other major stores. Just let me pay the sale price without waiting months for my rebate.

But that's a whole new rant for another day's topic.
 
RE: Inexpensive FT-8800R Separation Cable  
by K9KJM on March 12, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
OR an even cheaper cable, A plain 6 conductor phone cable from All Electronics for under 2 bucks!!!!!!

All Electronics part number 56-152

 
RE: Inexpensive FT-8800R Separation Cable  
by K9KJM on March 12, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
OR an even cheaper cable, A plain 6 conductor phone cable from All Electronics for under 2 bucks!!!!!!

All Electronics part number 56-152

 
RE: Inexpensive FT-8800R Separation Cable  
by KE6GLW on March 12, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Yaesu's FT-8900 cable for their radio-to-head connection matches pin numbers (e.g. Pin 1 in connects to Pin 1 out). The cable's end plugs have their locking tabs on opposite faces of the ribbon cable. Is that what people are calling "flipped"? I call it "straight-through". Installing plugs with their locking tabs on the same face of the ribbon "inverts" the pin connections (e.g. Pin 1 > 6, Pin 2 > 5 & etc.).

Take care with those couplers: Some invert the pin connections (Pin 1 > 6, Pin 2 > 5 & etc) which means you'd need another inverting section of cable or second inverting coupler to make the proper connections. And of course, some couplers don't invert the pin connections. I've got inverting and non-inverting RJ-45 couplers in my project bins (I guess I should mark those...)

A side hint:
You can use an RJ-11 plug (4 or 6 connector) with an RJ-45 jack (8 connector). It has a little side-to-side play, but the connections hold.

When I run wires for my mobile rigs, I use a pair of 8- or 10-conductor cables for the remote head and microphone connections. I haven't seen a remote cable for a rig that used more than eight wires. An excess of wires is far better than too few. My cables terminate at both ends in RJ-45 jacks wired straight-through (if only for consistency). I then create adapter cables for each end and use RJ-45 plugs to feed the jacks. If I change rigs, I only need to create new adapters: I don't have to rip up the interior molding to run new wires. I also created a generic mounting plate that can accommodate anything from a tiny FT-90R to an FT-857. Changing rigs is pretty easy now.

Radio Shack: "You've got questions. We've got blank stares." It's telling that they were just about the last retail chain that adopted electronic cash registers. Remember the wooden cash drawers and hand-totalled sales slips?
 
RE: Inexpensive FT-8800R Separation Cable  
by KL7IPV on March 12, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Last week at Radio Shack:
Me, "I need an adapater for RG-58U coax for a PL-259 connector."
She, "I don't know what that is or where it is."
Me, "Come with me."
We go to the drawers that now contain most of the connectors and things for plugs and other stuff. In a top drawer that had pictures of adapters on the front I find the adapters for all sorts of connectors. I reach in and grab two small plastic baggies with the adapters I need.
She, "I am not tall enough to see into the drawer. I need to get my step stool."
Me, " Thank you, I already have what I need."
And to think I didn't even get a discount for doing their job since they can't. At least the convenience of Radio Shack makes it worth it, sometimes. But I visit them less and less as time goes by.
73,
Frank
KL7IPV
 
Inexpensive FT-8800R Separation Cable  
by N5RLR on March 13, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
"RadioShack: You have questions, we have snot-nosed, wet-behind-the-ears brats..."

Sorry, I just couldn't resist. :P
 
RE: Inexpensive FT-8800R Separation Cable  
by W0FM on March 13, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
<Radio Shack: "You've got questions. We've got blank stares>.

I KNEW I should have copywrited that line. Oh well, at least he remembered it.

Terry, WØFM

 
RE: Inexpensive FT-8800R Separation Cable  
by W9WHE-II on March 13, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
One poster writes:

"Radio Shack: "You've got questions, we've got pink slips."

Perhaps if hams were LESS of appliance operators and MORE technical, radio Shack would stock more stuff. BUT since arrl insists on persuading FCC to "dumb down" the standards, radio Shack has NO NEED to carry more stuff!

Afterall, just whom would buy it? today's crop of "appliance operators"? LOL.

W9WHE
 
RE: Inexpensive FT-8800R Separation Cable  
by KC8VWM on March 13, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Perhaps if hams were LESS of appliance operators and MORE technical, radio Shack would stock more stuff. BUT since ARRL insists on persuading FCC to "dumb down" the standards, radio Shack has NO NEED to carry more stuff!

After all, just whom would buy it? today's crop of "appliance operators"? LOL.


*****************

Radio Shack employee (including management): Yessir, can I help you?

Ham: Yes, I need a spark gap coherer, a jar of carbon granules for a microphone project and a 25,000 volt Tesla coil.

Employee (now sporting a dumbfounded look): Uhhh, I think we no longer carry those items because the ARRL has persuaded the FCC to dumb down ham radio to the point you have all become appliance operators.

Ham: Sure..., but what can hams like me do to become more technically competent so you can stock up these store shelves at your Radio Shack store again like the old days when hams were real hams?

Employee (including management): Gee, you should talk to the ARRL and insist they persuade the FCC to stop "dumbing down" the standards so we can get back to the idea of selling and stocking our shelves with antiquated and outdated technology here at Radio Shack...

Employee leads Ham to parts section and asks, "Just whom would buy such coils, Bakelite panel knobs, reel to reel tape recorders and 12AX7 tubes, ...today's crop of "appliance operators"? I don't think so.

Ham: Perhaps your right. We need to get today's average hams away from the idea of dressing up in white paper suits and assembling electronic components with $150,000 microscopic parts assembly machines while standing on anti static mats in sterile clean rooms and back to breadboard crystal radio circuit technology.

Employee (including management): Yes, perhaps when the ARRL changes the standards back to the way it used to be, then you might actually be considered as more technically competent hams. Until that day happens, Our Radio Shack stores won't even consider stocking our shelves like they used to.

...When you DO change the world back to 1968, have the ARRL people call our people at our Forth Worth head office and we will change things back to the way it used to be effective immediately.

I suppose until that day happens you will have to resort to buying all your radio parts from places like Jerkit City or Worst Buy.

It's obviously apparent they are a plethora of knowledge compared to our highly paid Radio Shack store scientists /engineers /waste paper basket janitors; when asking them any questions of a technical nature.
 
RE: Inexpensive FT-8800R Separation Cable  
by KG6WLS on March 13, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
***Perhaps if hams were LESS of appliance operators and MORE technical, radio Shack would stock more stuff. BUT since arrl insists on persuading FCC to "dumb down" the standards, radio Shack has NO NEED to carry more stuff!

Afterall, just whom would buy it? today's crop of "appliance operators"? LOL.

W9WHE ***

Hey, if I got my ticket back in the 1960's, I would echo those same words. But, I studied and took the test that was available to me at the time (not knowing what the "dumbing down" standards were). I, for one, was not beating down the door asking for lower standards. Oh, pardon me..."dumbing down". I'll be taking EL #1 & 3 way before they drop the CW requirement. You know how slow the Gov. is.

But, to each his/her own. I don't mind driving 30 minutes out of my way to avoid RS for a connector at HRO. LOL.

KG6WLS
 
RE: Inexpensive FT-8800R Separation Cable  
by KC0NPF on March 13, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Radioshack: you've got questions, and you always will..


The most competant radioshack employee i know IS a ham ::grin:: that always helps, but I must say that most of the time RS doesn't have anything useful to me.

I'd be the snot nosed kid behind the counter if it wasn't so much fun to go into radioshaft and answer ~their~ questions!

LOL
 
RE: Inexpensive FT-8800R Separation Cable  
by K8LEA on March 13, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
A friend of mine (she had to retire for medical reasons) managed a local RS. It was always fun to drop by and answer their questions.... (She was pretty competent, too!)

'Bout the only plus today is that they're open a good part of the time, so a Sunday afternoon project failure is/was sometimes saved.

I like their semi-crap tools, and they've got a good line of computer odds & ends that I can get elsewhere without having to fight crowds of people trying to buy washers & dryers to get a saleskid's attention. Mostly because I can "handle" the stuff instead of just finding it at Cyberguys....

It was nice when RS actually could be said to compete with HRO, and especially nicer when a "why not try that antenna" could be satisfied with a quick ride to the strip plaza instead of 75+ miles to AES (HRO's nowhere nearby).

The local RS has a countergirl who can't reach the parts bins either. Cute enough to ignore when she doesn't understand.... I once tried to buy a tube of silicone grease. The counterkids were stumped until we found out what RS called it.... ("Thermal Compound"?) But they had it....

IAC, about all I really expect is convenience.

And thanks for the tip regarding the cable.

Regards,

Stu K8LEA
 
Inexpensive FT-8800R Separation Cable  
by KB6REY on March 13, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Radio Shack (San Francisco):


It does not deserve the name of “Radio Shack”.
This is misleading and so is their service.

Why buy from them?

Walgreen’s drugstores (Home Depot, K-Mart, Target, Sears, Lowe’s Supply, ect, ect.) carry phone products and electronics for a lot less.

Do people really go there to buy batteries?

No - they go next door to the Asian mom and pop store and buy cheap Chinese batteries for a lot less.

All they (RS) sell is the same junk one can buy at swap meets or local shops for less.

Most American teenagers do not have any math or language skills so they are the cheapest employees because they do not know any better.

If you Americans were not so complacent, and just sit back and make effortless comments about cheap modifications fixes for their radio and really gave a damn, they would make sure that their children stay in school. Also they would also have the ability to understand and help with their assigned schoolwork and be of some fu**ng use to their kids.

But most of you are not capable. Most of you do not understand how to even use spell check.

Most of the complaints come from guys (with their pictures in front of their radios and toys, (geeky and geeko). These guys need some form of sense of accomplishment. I personally think they would be better off building their community resources as a technology liaison, and volunteer as a teacher.


But no, they sit back and count their radios and antennas they have built, also how fuc*ing fat they have become in the past few years as a ham radio operator.

So if you are really tired of how this country and customer service is going, shut your cakehole and put your effort where your mouth is.

Support your community schools and volunteer.

Who loves you Baby? - kb6rey does.

 
RE: Inexpensive FT-8800R Separation Cable  
by N6SIX on March 14, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Wow, Reynaldo, cut back onthe caffeine.

This was supposed to be about an inexpensive FT-8800R seperation cable. Geeze! All of you need to lighten up a little bit.
 
RE: Inexpensive FT-8800R Separation Cable  
by NN6EE on March 14, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Radio Shack???

Yah right!!! More like "Chinese Junk Shack"!

You're RIGHT ON THE MONEY in more ways than one with your intelligently thought-out response!!!

No doubt though the only "Flamers" that will have any negative replies, on the whole will be "NCTS" with multiple HTs and SCANNERS and whose questions will rival the employees answers @ Radio-Shack!!!

BRAVO Rey!!!

Jim/ee
 
RE: Inexpensive FT-8800R Separation Cable  
by YEPSURE on March 14, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Regardless of peoples' opinions and useless rants about your kids' math skills, Radio Shack still sucks - plain and simple!

I think you can attempt misdirection by aluding to fat hams, appliance operators, no-code techs or the like. Whatever your personal flavor happens to be the fact remains that the shack sucks and its no wonder so many stores are closing. Why would you even go into a shack when there's a Walmart around the corner and you can pay HALF?

Some people who actually stand up for the shack think it's OUR fault they're closing. Gimme a break - They're closing stores because their sh!t costs TOO MUCH! (not to mention they don't carry what they used to). They need to just change their name to Verizon and get it over with . . . .
 
RE: Inexpensive FT-8800R Separation Cable  
by K1OU on March 15, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
W9WHE,

And you are trying to tell me that your HF rig and Alpha amp about which you so loudly boast were built by you? Maybe you should lead by example instead of crying like a bitch.

I'd love to known what you have built, other than your reputation as a raging idiot.
 
Inexpensive FT-8800R Separation Cable  
by N1VVD on March 15, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
OK, Come on now.......
You've got questions, we've got batteries....!

Great FT-8800 Solution... Thanks
 
RE: Inexpensive FT-8800R Separation Cable  
by KB9YZL on March 16, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Ok, …….Now that everyone has had their fun at the expense of poor pathetic Radio Shack, and the current generation of “Dumbed-Down” licensees, …how about one of you “Old Time Experts” contributing something useful???

For example, …..What are the consequences if you get the “cable flip” wrong, and power up your FT-8800??

I’m sure that many of us lowly newcomers are wondering about that. (You should note that as limited as we are, …..we ARE smart enough not to find this out by experimentation!)
 
RE: Inexpensive FT-8800R Separation Cable  
by AH6RR on March 16, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
You got questions.... We have confused looks on our face.

At least they could handle 1kv caps along with thier cell phones....

AH6RR
 
RE: Inexpensive FT-8800R Separation Cable  
by K9YEQ on March 19, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Or, dig in a voluminous junk and wire boxes and build for free!

Bill
K9YEQ
 
RE: Inexpensive FT-8800R Separation Cable  
by NN6EE on March 19, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
K1OU,

NICE SLAM to W9WHE!!! & WELL DESERVED AT THAT!!!

Bravo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jim/ee

*******************************************************

RE: Inexpensive FT-8800R Separation Cable Reply
by K1OU on March 15, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
W9WHE,

And you are trying to tell me that your HF rig and Alpha amp about which you so loudly boast were built by you? Maybe you should lead by example instead of crying like a bitch.

I'd love to known what you have built, other than your reputation as a raging idiot.
 
RE: Inexpensive FT-8800R Separation Cable  
by KE6GLW on March 19, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
"For example, What are the consequences if you get the cable flip wrong, and power up your FT-8800??"

Check the FT-8800 technical supplement. It's relatively inexpensive and extremely useful. The main issue is that you would swap the 9V and GND connections. The display module will probably be OK but you would need a circuit of the microphone to know further. It is simpler to avoid the problem.

The important thing with any modification is that if someone does not have the ability to test whether the connections are correct, cannot evaluate the outcome of a making a mistake and is unwilling to accept the risk of 'experimenting', they should not attempt the mod*. As I mentioned previously there are some cable couplers that flip connections. At a minimum, you should test the completed cable with a continuity tester to ensure the connections at either end are correct. Blind acceptance of any 'fixes' one finds the internet is crazy.

*"You might be a redneck if there was someone in you family whose last words were: 'Hey, look what happens when I do this!'" - Jeff Foxworthy
 
RE: Inexpensive FT-8800R Separation Cable  
by KB9YZL on March 19, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
KE6GLW

Thanks for the constructive response! (They're altogether too rare on this site.)

I particularly liked the Jeff Foxworthy thing.
 
Inexpensive FT-8800R Separation Cable  
by N0IWK on March 21, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
In Missouri (The Show-Me State) Rat Shack's Motto is:

You've got questions.... We've got dumb looks!

73'

de N0IWK

Kevin Lee Diehl (CNA, CWNA, CWNE, MENSA)
 
Inexpensive FT-8800R Separation Cable  
by KG6JFN on March 21, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
I implemented this type of system about two years ago. This was during a time when the separation kits YSK-8900 were fetching about $80.00 (or More) plus shipping on Ebay and vendors were charging for shipping on original factory separation kits, priced at around $89.00.

In Sacramento, CA. we have a small electronics store called HSC, that is geared for more computer type applications. However they do stock a small gaggle of amateur radio MFJ equipment. The connector that I used was described as an “Extension”, thus none of the connections were flipped. Using the original 4 inch ribbon from the radio body, attaching the extender and then implementing a 10 foot ribbon, solved the problem of the separation kit.

The lack of a mounting bracket was solved by Radio Shack. They are in actuality just a cell phone retailer. Therefore I used a larger Motorola 120c or Nokia non flip style vehicle mount for the head of my 8900. It is attached to the outer cup holder floor mount and has an adjustable goose neck that extends approximately 7 inches. The Cell Phone Mounts spring loaded quick release tab allows me to store the radio head in a glove box when the vehicle is not occupied. Thus leaving only the empty cell phone mount and separation cable visible to the public.

The Cell Phone mount came it at just under $20.00 and the extender along with the 10 foot ribbon came in at $5.00. The total cost of just under $25.00 would have covered the shipping on an Ebay auction. So it is a quick and easy solution to an expensive separation kit. Now if it were only that simple for an FT-100D.


Stephen – KG6JFN –
Placer Amateur Radio Association (PARA)
KG6ZTE, Citrus Heights, CA.
441.175 + PL 123.0 IRLP #3965
 
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