6 & 2 Meter Square Copper Dipoles
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George Dowell, K0FF
on
July 10, 2006
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KØFF’s Homebrew Tips:
The 2 meter Square Copper Dipole by KØFF
Originally published and copyright by KØFF 5 Dec 2000 on eHam
Construction Detail
Here is the parts list and dimension sheet for a 2m square dipole, made from copper plumbing fittings and 1/2 inch copper water pipe.
It is more or less omni-directional, and horizontally polarized.
You can even make it from the short pieces of pipe left over from the 6M project (see eHam how-to article "6
Meter Square Copper Dipole by KØFF").
The antenna presents a low-through-high angle of takeoff, and is intended for use in the 144.200 area, although
it’s wide enough to use as an AO-27 uplink, and can handle 100W. It’s particularly useful on AO-27 when the
pass is very high or overhead, and in the "cone of silence" of a fixed vertical. I use this for mobile satellite
uplink, and wave a short hand-held 430 antenna out the window for receive. Excellent results from SSB mobile
too, where I’ve been able to talk to other mobiles similarly equipped 200 miles away. The mounting arrangement
allows it to be affixed to a standard mobile mast that presents a 3/8 x 24 male thread (ALA Hustler base mast).
You run coaxial cable right to the antenna and connect it to the built in SO-239.
The only adjustment on it is the Gamma match, as the design dimensions set resonance. You may want to adjust
the final SWR by sliding the end caps in or out before soldering them.
Brass Parts
It's just a dipole folded around on itself.
The shape is an open 11 inches with mounting via a copper TEE with the open end down. In that open end solder a 1/2"
brass rod, which has been drilled and tapped for 3/8-24.
For stacking a pair, you could make the TEE and threaded insert come horizontally instead, and mount one
antenna above the other. (Future articles will give detailed info on stacking antennas in general). Stacked
antennas provide improved gain and power handling capabilities.
Side mounting on a tower can be achieved by using conduit clip large enough to go around the mast (or tower
leg), and run a 3/8 x 24 s.s. bolt into the threaded fitting.
Copper Parts
Solder the antenna parts together per the drawing using the 90
degree elbows at the corners. Cap the far (open) ends and mind the gap. All measurements are critical. The brass
plate* to hold the SO-239 is bent to form an "L" 1-3/4" tall with a 1/2" lip. A 5/8 hole is provided 1-1/4 inch
from the bend, and the SO-239 is attached using stainless steel or brass hardware*. Two small holes are drilled
in the lip and the plate is mounted to the copper TEE with #6 s.s. Self-taping screws*. Solder a ring lug* to the
center conductor of an 11" piece of RG8 insides* and screw it into the threaded coupling* on the SO-239
*(center wire and plastic dielectric only- remove and discard shield and outer covering). Slip the RG8 insides
into the 3/8" copper tube* 4-1/2", and tap the copper tube to the radiating element 3-1/2" from the SO-239
center, with a copper strap bracket *.
The tap on the Gamma sets the impedance presented to the feedline.
Resonance (center frequency) is designed into the measurements.
Parts Placement
Gamma Tap
Parts for Gamma, both 6 and 2 Meter Versions
Materials List:
1/2 inch copper water pipe:
2 ea. 3 1/4 inch (capped end)
2 ea. 4 1/4 inch (TEE end)
2 ea. 9 1/2 inch (Sides)
4 ea. 1/2 inch copper 90 degree elbows*
1ea. 1/2 inch copper TEE*
1 ea. 1/2 inch copper caps
5 inches of 3/8 inch copper refrigeration tubing ( Gamma Tube)*
6 inches of RG-8 insides with solder lug*
Brass Plate for Coax connector*
1 ea. SO-239 with Brass threaded insert*
1 ea. Brass rod, threaded for 3/8x24 for mast attachment*
1 ea. 1/2 inch wide copper strip ( Gamma tube bracket)
Misc. stainless steel screws and hardware*
Nearly Complete
Have fun on 2 meters -- Geo, KØFF
The 6 Meter Copper Loop
Here is the parts list and dim. sheet for a 6m Square Copper Dipole, made from copper water pipe.
Characteristics:
It is more or less omni-directional, and horizontally polarized.
Copper is the best possible electrical conductor at normal temperatures, next only to silver.
Copper conducts better than gold! Antenna efficiency is the RADIATION RESISTANCE of the antenna, divided by the ELECTRICAL RESISTANCE. An antenna made from copper is 1.6 times more efficient than the same antenna made of aluminum.
It presents a high angle of takeoff when mounted low, and singly (great for Es), can handle 100W. Stack two or more for extra gain if needed.
It's just a dipole folded around on itself, and supported at the far (open) end with a plastic insulator.
"Bent Dipole" might be a good term, as a "Folded Dipole" is quite another thing.
The Gamma Match:
A low VSWR may be obtained by adjusting the Gamma Match shorting bracket position, and also the length of the tubing and shorting bracket. The Gamma bracket "finds" the 50 Ohm point along
the element, and connects that to the Coax connector via the Gamma tube. The additional length of tube adds inductance into the circuit, and this is canceled out by the series capacitance formed between the insulated Gamma wire and the inside of the Gamma tube.
Description:
The shape is a closed 28" square, with a mounting /support bar through the middle. This mounting bar is attached to a copper TEE at the drive end, and to a CPVC TEE at the other end. The CPVC TEE acts as support and end-insulator for the radiating element and provides a mounting point for the Butterfly.
Insulator:
A large (3/4") part is used, and adapted down to fit
the water pipe, to increase its insulating qualities, as there is very high voltage at this point. A strip of brass or copper 1/2 by 3" is screwed to the outside middle portion of the CPVC Tee, through a small center hole, and is rotated one way or the other as a resonance tuner (Butterfly). When the Butterfly is at right angles to the element, the frequency is the highest, when Parallel, it's the lowest.
A Gamma match sets the impedance to 50 Ohms, and the Butterfly adjusts the center frequency. Center frequency is 50.00 to 50.800 with the exact dimensions shown Typically the 2:1 SWR bandwidth exceeds 500 kHz.
Mounting:
A U-bolt and saddle through the central tube provides a center mounting
point. Another approach is to install a copper TEE in the center tube, with the open end down. In that open end solder a 1/2" brass rod which has been drilled and tapped for 3/8-24.
Side mounting on a tower can be achieved by using conduit clips to fix it to a horizontal mast.
In some climates where water is a problem, drill small weep holes in the bottom corners. A spray coat of Krylon Clear Enamel will keep the copper shiny. If used mobile, you may use a colored paint, the same shade as your vehicle.
Construction:
Material:
1/2 inch Copper waterpipe:
3 ea. 27 inch piece
4 ea. 12.5 inch piece
1 ea. 13.5 inch piece 3/8 i.d. Copper refrigeration tubing (Gamma tube) *
1 ea. Brass plate 1/2" x 3" (Butterfly) *
1 ea. Brass plate: 1"x 2-1/4 in (to mount SO-239, Gamma rod) *
1 ea. Copper strip 3/8 x 4" to make Gamma tube bracket *
4 ea. Copper 90 Degree elbow
1 ea. 3/4 CPVC TEE
3 ea. 3/4 to 1/2 CPVC reducer
1 ea. Copper TEE
1 ea. 11 inch piece of RG8 insides (center conductor and insulation, Discard shield and outer plastic) *
1 ea. SO-239 coax connector (with tapped mounting holes and center pin) *
1 Lot Stainless Steel and Brass screws and Hardware *
Glue two of the 12.5" pipe sections into the CPVC reducers first, then glue the reducers into the opposite sides of the CPVC TEE.
Lay the assembly on a flat surface with the center opening of the TEE
facing the middle of the antenna. This is where the first 27" piece
(mounting bar) goes in, via a reducer. On the outside edge of the CPVC TEE is where the butterfly attaches. For mobile or portable use, use 3 s.s. #6 screws through each of the CPVC TEE joints for added strength.
The rest of the antenna solders together to form a square, using the 90
degree elbows at the corners. Drill small weep holes in the bottom corners of all four 90s to let accumulated water drain out.
The brass plate is bent to form an "L" 1-3/4" tall with a 1/2" lip. A 5/8 hole is provided 1-1/4 inch from the bend, and an SO-239 is attached . Two small holes are drilled in the lip and the plate is mounted to the copper TEE with #6 s.s. self taping screws. Attach the center conductor of an 11" piece of RG8 insides to the center pin (center wire and plastic dielectric only- remove and discard shield and outer covering). This is accomplished by soldering or using a screw if
the SO-239 has a threaded center pin *
Slip the other end of the RG8 insides into the 3/8"copper tube 10.5", and tap the copper tube to the radiating element 13-1/2" from the SO-239 center, with the Gamma tube bracket.
The tap on the Gamma sets the impedance presented to the feedline.
Resonance (center frequency) is adjusted by turning the butterfly.
The Butterfly:
Mount 15 feet or more high, for home use, and wherever you can for mobile. An antenna like this can be mounted 3" to 6" above the roof of a vehicle using CPVC, PVC or acrylic spacers with suction cups.
Have fun on 6 meters Geo, K0FF
WARNING * This is antenna is an electrical conductor. Contact with power lines can result in death or serious injury. Do not install this antenna, supporting mast or tower structure near any power lines, or where they could come into contact with power lines
should the antenna or structure fall.
Geo, KØFF
The First 6M DXCC from Missouri
The Only Zero with 5BDXCC and endorsements for 160/17/12/6 Meters.
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by N3OX on July 10, 2006
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I like that butterfly capacitor... that's slick!
Dan
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by WF7A on July 10, 2006
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>>I like that butterfly capacitor... that's slick! <<
That it is! VERY cool and clever.
For you inexperienced antenna builders, you might want to check out
http://www.alpharubicon.com/elect/jpolejaden.htm
...for some helpful hints on prepping and soldering the copper joints together. (Scroll down about halfway down the page to get to those hints.) Also, if you coat the copper with varnish, paint, sealant, etc., it'll help stave off corrosion. You want beauties like these to last a long time!
Ciao,
Rich
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by NS6Y_ on July 10, 2006
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Great stuff!! I wonder, if it would be all that hard to build a Moxon, since it's just a variation of a folded dipole......
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by N3OX on July 10, 2006
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Moxon's quite a bit bigger, and for 6m it could be a bit floppy if of copper tubing with no extra supports... 2m this size tubing would work fine.
I'd like to have both, honestly. The Moxon has such front to back that some omni antennas would be good... though a stack of 2 squares would come pretty close to the Moxon in gain... and you wouldn't need a rotator.
Moxon's good if you need to block the sigs behind you.. the directivity will reduce noise somewhat... you end up swinging the beam around a LOT though... especially if you're trying to make some contest contacts or something. That's where having omni horizontally polarized antennas is really great.
May have to build some of these for 2m... I would like to have an omni stack on 2m SSB/CW.
Dan
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by KG6WLS on July 10, 2006
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I've built several of these on the cheap and they work fine. Sold some, and given some away. Not a yagi, but hears all the way around. Worked several stations as far North to Canada, and as far East to Georgia at 50 watts on 6 meter openings from my location.
If I was not in a CC&R (condo)...I could probally do better. Someday ;-)
73
Mike
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by KB1GMX on July 11, 2006
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I've built both and they get used for FD and other needs.
They aren't beams but are good easily built utility antennas. I often recommend these and copper Jpoles for new VHF ops that want to built and experiment.
Allison
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by W6TH on July 11, 2006
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Great article K0FF. These repeats are needed.
Go to the old ARRL handbooks and you will find what was called in that time "Plumbers Delight".
These antennas do work and there are simliar antennas called the Halo, all work on the same principle, with regard to the basics. The Halo was very popular in the 50's and great for moble work. Also used a Butterfly Capacitor.
Welcome back ham radio.
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by N3JBH on July 11, 2006
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question is how is some one going to turn such a nice article in to a bashing event??? it was indeed a very nice article. thanks very much.
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by K1OU on July 11, 2006
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N3JBH,
Everybody knows that if it's not the ARRL, it's the darn liberals who are responsible for sporadic E. If it weren't for the ARRL or liberals, we'd have E all the time!
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by WA1RNE on July 11, 2006
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Folks,
No negative waves, no bashing will occur.
Life is to darn short; stay technical, promote the art, be happy......
WA1RNE
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by K7EY on July 11, 2006
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Thanks for rerunning this article. It is just what I have been looking for--the timing could not be better.
Okay, now I'm on my way to do some shopping.
73,
Bill, N5TU (Ex-K7EY)
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by N4QA on July 11, 2006
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One of those 6m babies would look great on the old, rusty N4QA-mobile...282K miles and counting.
It'd also be a good excuse to buy an FT-857D or something like it for mobile use.
My fixed station on six meters currently comprises a Ten-Tec 1208 transverter, driven by either the Rock-Mite-20 or the IC-703 hf-only rigs. 2 watts & 5 watts out on six, respectively.
That is, when I'm not running the Knight-kit T-60 at 3 watts out and the VR-500 receiver.
In any case, the antenna is an ended, 80m-long section of electric fencewire, 5m above ground.
Don't laugh, I've worked 18 states plus Quebec in the past few weeks on 6m QRP (mostly CW) this way!
It'd be a little cumbersome to run the 80m wire mobile though :0)
Honey...I need a new radio... a new antenna too...
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by N3JBH on July 11, 2006
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"by K1OU on July 11, 2006 !
N3JBH,
Everybody knows that if it's not the ARRL, it's the darn liberals who are responsible for sporadic E. If it weren't for the ARRL or liberals, we'd have E all the time!"
wow thanks i guess that took all the Mystery out of sporadic E. ok folks vote no to Liberalism. just kidding all seriously i liked the article good job now let's all be happy here and have a group hug for once. jeff n3jbh
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by K1OU on July 11, 2006
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Per N4QA:
"My fixed station on six meters currently comprises a Ten-Tec 1208 transverter, driven by either the Rock-Mite-20 or the IC-703 hf-only rigs. 2 watts & 5 watts out on six, respectively.
That is, when I'm not running the Knight-kit T-60 at 3 watts out and the VR-500 receiver."
That's awesome! That reminds me: Does anybody remember the Utica 650? If so, do you know where I might be able to obtain one? What I would like to do is find one and give it to my father, as that was the radio he used when I was a young Johnny Novice. Thanks!
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by N3JBH on July 11, 2006
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aw the ole Utica 650 such a nice looking radio yes. black with chrome. a speaker that was in the right spot. they where pretty indeed. and with that matching vfo. nice set up. good luck finding a nice one. i envy you if you do. and best of luck to you.
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by KE4ZHN on July 11, 2006
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Nice homebrew antenna and a good article. This looks like a fun project to build. Its good to see an article on here thats not a personal attack slamfest.
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by W6TH on July 11, 2006
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This article has me thinking. I have worked the 5 meter band for a few years before the change to 6 meters, looks like I am missing something of fun and value.
Going to check a few places where I can get a radio that covers the 6 meter band, nothing ventured, nothing gained.
I am not a plumber by trade, but do have the tools to do the job. Building this antenna looks easier than doing the plumbing work under the sink.
Again, nice article and thanks to eHAM for the change of pace. This is going to work out great.
W6TH
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by N3OX on July 11, 2006
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6 meters is great when it's open.
Lots of stations on CW, especially the DX.
Looks like it's open to Europe right now... up goes the Moxon Rectangle!
73,
Dan
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by N4QA on July 11, 2006
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Oops!
That was supposed to say 80m endfed wire...not ended wire :0)
This evening, added the Canadian province of New Brunswick ( grid FN75 ) to my list of places worked QRP on six meters.
The fellow I just worked there is Andy, VE9DX. Funny thing is, I have worked Andy on 80m and 20m QRP RTTY using the same endfed wire and the DDS_RTTY_ATS-3 project! Also use the same antenna for 160 meters.
The Icom AH-4 remote autotuner does a stellar job on 160-6m with this antenna.
But, getting back to the square copper dipoles...
I'd sure like to try one on six CW at 70 mph on I-81 sometime! Outta my way, slowpoke! I gotta get to the top of Christiansburg mountain before I lose this rare grid!
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by K1OU on July 11, 2006
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Here is a picture of the Utica 650 that I mentioned earlier;
http://www.qsl.net/la5ki/org/ut/ut650.jpg
73,
OU
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by KC0KBH on July 11, 2006
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You might want to try PEX now, since copper is so expensive. :D
Actually, PEX would make a good insulator for something.
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by W6EM on July 11, 2006
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A great article. Even as a rerun. Its this kind of stuff that rejuvenates the true spirit of amateur radio.
The only thing he could have done better would be to have silver plated the copper tubing. But, its still a great design that will take a lot of punishment from mother nature and hang in there.
The only thing that might use a little more protection from the elements would be the CPVC tee. Painting it black to shield it from UV would help keep it from getting brittle as it ages in the sunlight.
And, Vito, good to see you interested in 6M. Although, like where I used to live in the SF Bay Area, LA also has a channel 2. If there are still any Ridgecrest TV DXers with antennas pointed south, you could have a little TVI problem.
Lee
W6EM/4
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by WA6BFH on July 11, 2006
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Yep Vito, 'nothing ventured, nothing GAINed!
I would prefer a simple straight dipole -- well and efficiently impedance matched -- but, try it out!
A beam of course (in either and/or any BEST polarization would be the tops) but, small steps Caity {uh, I meant Ellie},,,, small steps!
73! de John DM15ej
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by W6TH on July 12, 2006
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W6EM/4 Lee and Wb6BFH John.
Will need some pointers on the cw portion of the 6 meter band. I am 100 % cw.
BTW fellers, I am W6TH/1 now in the Free State of New Hampshire, where you live Free or Die, also waiting for the minus 4F and snow.
Yep, going to go for the 6 meter band and this antenna is a good start. I have a/an idea that we will be seeing much more of this kind of posts from eHAM, bringing back ham radio as ham radio should be.
Welcome back John, missed you.
73 chaps, W6TH.
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by W6TH on July 12, 2006
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John WA6BFH
Here is a good one to try.
Going back in years an antenna called the J pole of today which was a end fed Hertz back then and I operated the 5 meter band. I had taken a rotor similiar to the alliance rotormotor and mounted the J pole so that I could rotate the J pole both horizontally and/or vertically using the rotor.
Up until today, I cannot be sure which was to the better, the horizontal or the vertical.
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by K3UD on July 13, 2006
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Well,
After 3 minutes of download time using a fast broadband connection all of the pictures showed broken. Don't know if it is a problem on my end and there I am not having any other download problems. Thae article text is interesting though.
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by KC8VWM on July 13, 2006
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Mabey it's your laptop antenna or bandwidth conditions...
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by N3OX on July 13, 2006
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You need to make a little tiny halo for your laptop ...
Dan
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by AB7ZU on July 14, 2006
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Excellent article!
As a side note, when I was in a space-limited situation and wanted to operate on 40 meters CW, I placed an antenna like this on the roof of my house. I think it was called a "squalo" (square halo) and it worked great!
I would recommend it for lowband work in places where antennas cannot be seen. Obviously, since it is horizonatally polarized, height does matter. But I tell you, I was working JA's and many other pacific locations on 40 easily (from Arizona) with this antenna only about 15 feet above ground. Don't ask me why it worked so well on DX, but I am sure glad it did. Yes, I was barefoot (~100 watts output) and the signal reports indicated I was putting out a respectable signal.
In other words, give this antenna a try on ANY band and I think you will be surprised.
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by WF7A on July 14, 2006
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George, which Internet browser are you using?
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by N8QBY on July 14, 2006
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From 3CX800A7: " WA6BFH=W6TH
WA6BFH is an identity thief." What is that supposed to mean? Did I miss a page or something?
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by K3UD on July 14, 2006
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"George, which Internet browser are you using?"
I use a Macintosh OS 10.4.7 with the latest version of Firefox. I think that I had a bit of a hickup as everything now loads as it should. Thanks :)
Very good and informative article. George
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by N5API on July 15, 2006
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Looks like a nice antenna. Too bad copper prices have gone sky high in my neck of the woods. Could this possibly be constructed using another metal? Has anyone tried?
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by N6JSX on July 15, 2006
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I built the 2m version but found a problem. I could not get the antenna to match up as per the plans - the best I could get was 2.8:1. I modified the gamma match to be ~3" away from the outside of the element loop and was able to get 1:1 @ 144.200.
I used 1/8" brass welding/brazing rod to solder the gamma support - its been up for 3 years and I've seen plenty of birds using it. And one significant ICE storm that took down most all my other antennas.
My loop is at 30' with 150W into it and I've worked 2m SSB from my QTH (45mi due north of Dayton) Ohio into WI, IN, Can, IL, upper MI, MO, PA, NY, VT, WVA, KY, TN, GA, AL, MY.
It really works well. I plan on building a 6m coper loop after I get my SAT system up.
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by WA6BFH on July 16, 2006
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Vito, you are obviously not a reader of our clubs web page! I have long advocated the well and efficient use of vertical antennas for 6 Meters, and the ½ wave “J” is the best and most efficient!
Still, as you say, signals are not always vertical -- and of course they are not always horizontal either. I have beams for both polarizations, but I would someday like to build a set-up to track signal polarity!
73! de John
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by WA6BFH on July 16, 2006
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Vito, you are obviously not a reader of our clubs web page! I have long advocated the well and efficient use of vertical antennas for 6 Meters, and the ½ wave “J” is the best and most efficient!
Still, as you say, signals are not always vertical -- and of course they are not always horizontal either. I have beams for both polarizations, but I would someday like to build a set-up to track signal polarity!
73! de John
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RE: 6 & 2 Meter Square Copper Dipoles
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by N3OX on July 16, 2006
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N5API: Excellent electrical conductivity is very important for this type of antenna because of its low radiation resistance.
Ohmic losses in the conductors are more pronounced in this situation than in a situation where the radiation resistance is high.
So you could use another metal, but you have to be careful that you use very low resistance joints... you could use aluminum, for example, but unless you've got a TIG welder and can weld the corners, a soldered copper loop is going to beat it for efficiency.
Copper tubing is pretty much electrically ideal for this kind of antenna.
73,
Dan
www.n3ox.net
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RE: 6 & 2 Meter Square Copper Dipoles
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by KC8VWM on July 18, 2006
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Mabey it's just a sidenote for what Dan was already saying but I have always found antennas of equal dimensions constructed of copper perform better than thier aluminum counterparts in real world conditions.
73 Charles - KC8VWM
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6 & 2 Meter Square Copper Dipoles
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by K1JCM on July 29, 2006
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Has anyone fabricated one of these recently? I'm working on it and have questions..
1. In the text, it states that it's a 28" square when completed. However, with
the parts list specified, it's really 28"(27 + 1/2per elbow) X 26 5/8" (12.5
(2x) + 5/8 space in copper tee+1/2 per elbow). With the dimesions spec'd the tube from the gamma match goes past the end of the antenna. Is this correct?
2. Using the parts /dimensions, the plastic tee has a greater space between tubes (~ 1 ") than the copper tee opposite (5/8"). Should the tubes be a
different length?
Thanks in advance!
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