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Yaesu Microphone Tricks
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Paul R. Brenner, W6RLF
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August 24, 2007
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Yaesu Microphone "Tricks":
Several years ago, when I got really active again in ham radio, I bought a FT-100. I use it as my primary home rig, as I've moved my "shack" to the study with its small desk, and I need to be "low profile". I've greatly enjoyed it, and never had the problems experienced by some others. However, the audio quality of the microphone, with its teeny element, leaves something to be desired.
Several months ago there was an article discussing simple modification whereby you take the microphone apart to remove a small plastic disk that sits in front of the microphone element. I've spoken to Yaesu techs, and they have no idea why that disk was placed there. With it removed, audio is understandably improved somewhat. I won't re-hash that article, but it should be easily found here on eHam.
One other problem not solved by the above "mod", but easily solved, is fairly scratchy, sibilant audio. That is true whether the aforementioned disk is present or not. Early in my days with the FT-100, someone recommended a simple fix: A piece of foam weather-stripping taped over the microphone holes. Buy it thick enough that it is easy to split with a razor knife to eliminate the gummy side. It's fairly easy to control the thickness you cut. Cut a long enough piece that you can tape it away from the holes, and the buttons. I cut a narrow, long piece and run it over the top of the mic; one piece of tape goes over the top of the mic (I don't use those "up" and "down" buttons much); the other goes across the mic in front, just above the buttons. If you do it neatly with thin strips of black tape, it doesn't look too bad.
I've tested this listening to myself in another receiver, and it perfectly eliminates the scratchiness.
I recently bought a FT-1500M and have made the same modifications to its mic, which is very similar to the FT-100 mic.
Finally, I've learned that you don't have to spend a lot of money to GREATLY improve the audio of the FT-100. A month ago, a local Radio Shack was selling a discontinued floor sample of a typical "studio" dynamic mike for $3. Low impedance. It looked very well made, and I bought it because I couldn't pass it up. I immediately started thinking about whether I could use it with the FT-100. It's sort of a "bargain basement Heil".
The FT-100 uses a six-conductor modular line for the mic. Fortunately, an old-fashioned electronics store in the town next to ours had this; you won't find six-conductor modular in Radio Shack, although it's probably easily available on the net. The FT-100 manual has a clear diagram of the connections. A mic like this has only two conductors, for the mic element itself; the "on-off" switch is of course not a "push to talk". (This means that you have to use VOX.) I spliced the conductors, and tried the mic. The audio sounded good, but there was virtually no output, even at full gain!
I called Yaesu, and one of the techs told me to reset the entire radio back to default settings. He couldn't explain why, but said that they've learned that this cures a multitude of problems. (It seems as though, just like a computer, conflicts can arise.) In fact, if someone sends a FT-100 to Yaesu with an inscrutable problem, that's the first thing they do automatically. Lo and behold, that solved the problem. I was now getting normal output.
At this point some readers are probably saying that they'd rather live with less good audio than do this, but this wasn't a big deal for me; I had very little programmed into my FT-100.
Bottom line: With no DSP adjustment, no compression, mic gain at 50%, I've got nearly "broadcast quality"; audio. I've confirmed listening to myself how much better it sounds; and a net I check into regularly can't believe the difference.
I'm out $11, $3 for the mike and $8 for the small stand. You may not find a $3 mic; on the other hand, you may already have such a mic. At Radio Shack, these current stock mics seem to go for $30-$40. All in all this is a pretty reasonable way to significantly improve the audio of the FT-100.
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by KC8VWM on August 24, 2007
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Well done article.
On a more humorous note, it's amazing what a wad of duct tap, a sock off my right foot and a few Popsicle sticks has done for improving my audio. I am consistently getting those "your 5/9 what is your QTH again?" reports with this particular mod to my microphone. I can only conclude by these similar reports that it works exactly the same as my Heil Gold line microphone did!
73 KC8VWM
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by K3AN on August 24, 2007
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So THAT'S it. Phone operators remove the sock from their right foot and CW ops remove the sock from their left foot (QLF)!
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by W4LGH on August 24, 2007
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I have been using "Broadcast Quality" mics for years on my systems, but choose to use the condensor type mics and a simple EQ with phantom power. I also use and love the Behringer DSP110 which is a limiter/compressor with a noise gate built in. This has worked very well for me, and costs about 1/2 of what a HEIL PR40 & a JJONES EQ box with gate.
Heil is way overpriced, but as long as you guys keep buying it, it will stay ovr priced, and there are MANY mics as good and most better than the Heil out there, such as teh Shure DM40 for sbout $50.
Check it out yourself and you will see...
73 de W4LGH - Alan
http://www.w4lgh.com
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by K4JSR on August 24, 2007
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Charles, your mike mods make me glad there is no such thing as "radio smellophony"!!!
73, & :) Cal K4JSR
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by AE1Z on August 24, 2007
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I was using MH2 mic from Heil with my Elecraft K2. In the MH2 mic there is an unmarked electret capsule. I bought similar capsule from Radio Shack and installed it in an old Lafayete CB desk mic (which I got from a garage sale) along with some foam and padding. Did a lot of on-air testing icluding recording and comparing my transmissions. The Radio Shack capsule in the home-brewed mic sounds better (!) than the original Heil mic!!! I constantly get excellent audio reports with it!! (total cost less than $10) Heil is just way overpriced for what you are getting - you are paying for Bob's name on mic and he is very happy guy because of it :-)
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by WA8MEA on August 24, 2007
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I don't know about you guys, but it seems I can fix other peoples gear just fine. BUT....when it comes to my own stuff, I just mess it up!
I'm not the only one this happens to. I've asked others who've told me the same thing. But why?? Do we generally try to get an extra "inch" out of a modification and land up breaking something?
Are we more careful with other peoples equipment, and not as careful with our own??
I mean, I've done some dumb things in ham radio that would compare to leaving out the car oil pan plug and then dumping five quarts of brand new motor oil onto the garage floor....
73, Bill - WA8MEA
http://HamRadioFun.com
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by WR8D on August 24, 2007
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A little behringer 602a now found on ebay for 30 bucks.
A rock for a mic........
Perfection.
I've messed with ssb audio for years and this little behringer sounds exactly as good as a system worth hundreds of bucks.
Some of you though want to look at all kinds of knobs and buttons and blinking lights. If that's your thing go for it. I've done that too then came back to reality.
A little ten dollar radio shack mic was made to sound honestly better than a 400 buck EV with on the air tests in a round table qso one night. All agreed and the comparison was this is mic a and this is mic b. The guy would switch them and each time we told him the radio shack mic was nicer without any of us knowing which was inline at the moment.
Hi Hi...the operator took the little radio shack mic back and kept the 400 buck EV....couldn't stand the truth but the thought that the EV cost 400 bucks just had to make it better even though 10 operators were telling him differant. It looked nicer too hanging in his mic boom..you know makes them feel like a "real" dj. One two one two one two test test test...twist a knob= One two one two one two test test test= twist another know= one two one two test test test....really a waste but i've heard hours of testing this crap and just about on all the hf bands too.
Most of you guys are running tx width way to wide also but that goes along with the cb license you now have.
We used to take the inside material out of the mc 60s to change the tone of our audio. Many of us would put a heil 5 into a d-104 because some just like the design of the old mic. We'd also put a .001-.005 cap in line with the audio lead to tailor the audio too. Tape around the inside of a mc 50 to really make a kenwood ts-830 have that nice 830 tone.
All kinds of tricks that have been used by hams for decades...long before any of us ever used an eq. Now it seems we've all just got to have that big bass sound though. That and dx just don't get along to good though...but you'll just have to find that out for yourselves.
73 John WR8D
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by W4VR on August 24, 2007
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I've been using the Heil HM-10-5 for the past 25 years with various radios, including Kenwood, Yaesu and Icom. For the price it's hard to beat for clear, crisp audio quality. This is one of Bob Heil's best microphones. I've even used the HC-5 element in mobile-type hand-held microphones by gutting the mike...and installing a series 1 microfarad capacitor to block the 8 volts from getting into the HC-5 when using Icom equipment. I had a Heil PR-40 for a few days and compared it to the HM-10 using a PROIII...everyone I talked to preferred the HM-10 for clarity and frequency response (even played with the EQ to try to make the PR-40 sound better). So, to get great audio quality you don't have to spend a fortune on microphones and outboard EQ!
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by KG4YUS on August 24, 2007
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Its funny the guys who "think" they have "broadcast Quality" audio.
Maybe using SSB or AM modes but they get on the local repeaters with the same settings using their Behringer mics and sound like overdriven ****
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by N7YA on August 25, 2007
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>>So THAT'S it. Phone operators remove the sock from their right foot and CW ops remove the sock from their left foot (QLF)! <<
You might be on to something there...i actually DO tend to take off the left sock first, and i mostly operate CW.
But i do own a mic, its a nice Yaesu MD-100 and has helped me get through a little better in rough condx when i do operate SSB. I hear these guys on the air tweaking and ragchewing with deep rich bass and crystal clear audio...but i never really hear that in pileups. maybe its just me, but i think DXers and contesters put more money into the antennas and power. I do know theres a group of hams who focus on the best audio they can come up with.
Thats whats great about this hobby, among other things...theres a niche for everyone who is interested in 2 way communications...DX, laser, repeaters, contesting, ragchewing, audiophiles, packet, Dstar, sats, mountaintopping, QRP, mobile, dxpeditions, meteor scatter, tropo ducting, EME....the list just goes on and on.
By the way, i will never count "internet" in that list. ;-)
73...Adam, N7YA
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by AB5CC on August 25, 2007
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Funny you should mention removing the disc from the microphone. Last year, a friend of mine bought a new Yaesu FT-2800. The audio was very muffled from the start. I heard him trying to adjust the audio with the menu system along with the help of other locals, over the air. Finally he gave up and offered it to me for $100. I knew it was only months old so I bought it.
I came here to eham and reaad the reviews. One fellow said that he really liked the radio after he removed the plastic disc from the microphone. Another mentioned the microphone mod. I removed the disc and it sounds like it should.
A few weeks later, the fellow came to my office and asked me how I got the audio sounding so good, I told him about the plastic disc. He asked me how I found out about the "mod". I told him it was in the reviews here on eham. He said he had called Yaesu and they didn't tell him about it when he was complaining of low audio....
I have since bought another FT-2800 and have removed the disc from it also.
It pays to read the reviews!!
AB5CC
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by KE4ZHN on August 26, 2007
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Its a real hoot listening to some of these guys who think you need an audio chain consisting of 25 different boxes of processing junk between the mike and the rig. Perpetual knob twisting at its best. And no amount of knob twisting makes them sound good, just broader. Dont get me wrong, tweaking ones sound for improvements is fine within reason. Its just that some people take it way beyond reason and needlessly destroy adjacent frequencies just to feed their ego. Amateur radio was never intended to make us all sound like DJ's. On the other side of the coin, nobody enjoys listening to someone talking into a tin can either. There has to be a middle ground in there somewhere. With the modern transceivers of today theres no reason why you should need to process the crap out of your mikes to make them sound acceptable on the air. Sometimes, all it takes is trying different mikes on the radio till you find the perfect one for your voice. This is just my opinion of course, but I stand by it.
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by KC7GF on August 26, 2007
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Why does everyone insist on trying to make 2.8kc of audio sound like hifi? One reason SSB was invented was to save spectrum space. 2.8kc is the bandwidth of a telephone call and it will never sound like "broadcast" audio without occupying more bandwidth. Anyone who doesn't understand these basic laws of physics shouldn't have been allowed to pass his amateur radio exam. You can equalize your audio path and get rid of distortion but without breaking the rules you can't exceed 2.8kc.
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by ICR71A on August 26, 2007
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Art, there are no "rules" in Part 97 that specify a particular bandwidth cap. This subject has been a matter of some debate, but the fact is that in 2004 a petition was heard by the FCC attempting to quantify 2.8Khz for J3E (SSB) and 5.6Khz for A3E (AM/DSB). It was shot down with the finding that limiting the bandwidth violated the experimentation provision that establishes one of the primary bases for the ARS (97.1 a-c). To read that ruling, surf here http://www.icycolors.com/nu9n/images/FCC-DA-04-3661A1-final.pdf
Second, the 2.8Khz marker is not an artifact of telephone service nor is it the current bandwidth for conventional analog or digital POTS. That bandwidth averages 3.2/3.3Khz, with the new G.722.2 codec providing approximately 7Khz on VoIP connections. The 2.4Khz (narrow SSB) bandwidth is an artifact of circuit design based upon Collins engineering--following the telephone design parameters of 2-2.5Khz established by limitations in circuitry and efficiency of wired telephony in the 50s and early 60s.
These bandwidths were adapted as the "minimum" for intelligible speech. The trouble with the eSSB crowd is that much of it is way overboard in terms of processing equipment and bandwidth. If one wants more than 3Khz, try AM...
73 DE N4PRT
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by N9WB on August 27, 2007
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The disk was to eliminate background noise, particularly wind noise while mobile.
Vy 73, Walt N9WB
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by W5QDF on August 29, 2007
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Just wondering if the same thing could be done for an I-com 706 with a microphone from Radio shack, I know my better half would love to have a desk mike for her 706.
David W. Carroll
W5QDF
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by K1CJS on August 29, 2007
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Charles,
It seems that there are a few on this site that have already adopted your 'mod'. They are the ones who drive the rest of us to drink with their comments and arguments. It seems that there IS such a thing as....athletes mouth! ;-)
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by G6NJR on September 2, 2007
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Yea so we just have to put up with continual splatter from stations running WAY WAY to much audio jus cus they wanna play pretend DJ get real kill the bass and the rest of the crap OH and in the process scrap those flaming kilo watt amps 100 watts is more than enough power you want better comms sort the aerial out and scrap the boots 20 meters is a total JOKE you hear a DX station and bang all the JERKS fire up the 1Kw+ boots you can hear them all starting to screetch and howl they should all be banned 100 watts 150 at a push ..
Pete g6njr
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by KI4FNC on September 7, 2007
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The removal of the plastic disc mod is a joke,... leave it in there for heaven's sake.
Yaesu installed the disc for a reason. I would have to say that the audio can be adjusted via 'hidden menus' in the rig too, so be careful if you do perform this mod. Also, the element is pretty fragile with extremely small wiring connected to it. If your Yaesu MH-36B mic is an older one, the wires might disconnect from the element itself and soldering iron heat can be your worst enemy here.
There were a lot of 'kinks' with the older 100's but I personally would just leave the newer 100D's alone. Their performance is excellent as is, no mods needed.
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