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Energizer Bunny Band

Paul Veal (N0AH) on September 26, 2007
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I just had my first QSO from my new QTH here in Littleton, Colorado. I was using my Hustler 6 BTV, which has 30 meters. My antenna set up is poor. I only have two 40-foot radials right now along my property lines because the antenna is next to the corners of my neighbor's fence and the XYL has made demands on no wires in the yard. After all, we have three young kids and I can't just run a bunch of laid out radials.

Tuned up on my 756 Pro III, I'm only running about 60% of my inputted power out. So with all this said, the only band I would even consider for DX'ing under these circumstances is 30 meters.

Here's why: It's like the Energizer Bunny band:

When I operated from VK9L in 1998, the flux was around 70, the K was running 6-7 and the A index was over 60 most of the time. But I worked stateside sunrise grayline right down to the numbers going east to west. It was really a case in point of applied theory to experienced DX.

It became the focus of my DXpedition using a Cushcraft multiband AP8A and a few radials on the ground. I just could not get anything going on 80 or 40 and 10-20 we're dead due to conditions except one day to NA.

During the last day, I finally hooked up with stateside on 12 meters for about 30 QSO's. But I had logged in hundreds of 30 meter QSO's all over the world.

30 meters was my bread and butter on Lord Howe Island. Without it, my DXpedition experience would have suffered greatly.

Seeing it work from my backyard tonight was just another case in point why 30 meters is the Energizer Bunny Band.

73 Paul N0AH

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Energizer Bunny Band  
by KA2DDX on September 26, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
"Energizer Bunny Band" is an interesting term for 30 meters. I too like this band a lot. I remember the night I worked Antarctica with 70 watts (near the top of cycle 23). But, at the bottom of cycle 22, I worked Antarctica with 100 watts on 30 meters. The guy was calling cq and no one to answer him but me. I've had many other positive experiences on 30 also. Your term fits it well. Wish more hams would use it. When it's open (read occurence of sun spots) I hear a lot of dx. Thanks for sharing.
 
RE: Energizer Bunny Band  
by NK2X on September 26, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
I agree, a very apt title for this band ;)

There's a group of hams trying to promote digital operations on 30m and there has been some success with increased activity and some new modes showing up. The low sunspots, summer noise, QSB, limited activity, and lack of antennas cause this to be not overly populated right now...but that will improve.

If you're into digital, try monitoring 10.140 plus or minus a bit to avoid the Pactor to see what you can hear. I've heard some EU DX recently and every once in a while the band opens for a few hours to make for interesting fun. Come join in for some BPSK, Olivia, MKSK, RTTY, or whatever ... I even made a JT65A QSO the other day...I think :D

73!
Larry - nk2x
 
RE: Energizer Bunny Band  
by N4OI on September 26, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
30 meters is also a great band for QRP -- I spend a lot of field time there with my Elecraft K1, 4ah gel cell, and lightweight 20 meter dipole. 73 de Ken - N4OI
 
RE: Energizer Bunny Band  
by NI0C on September 26, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
Thirty meters is a great band, and I've enjoyed it for many years. It is truly an intermediate band which bridges the gap between the lowbands and the higher frequency bands that are more dependent on solar flux for activation.

As you point out, good DX work can be accomplished on 30, even when the propagation numbers are atrocious.

One thing that stateside DX'ers need to keep in mind is the 200 watt power limit on that band. I say that not only for compliance with our laws, but also we need to remember that other countries may have more generous power limits, and that it in some cases it may be easier for us to hear them than for them to hear us.

I've gotten many a new country on 30m: Heard Island, Mellish Reef, and Hong Kong are a few examples. I still need only zone 26 for WAZ on the band.

Happy DX'ing to you, Paul!

73,
Chuck NI0C
 
RE: Energizer Bunny Band  
by W2RDD on September 26, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
My preferred band and QRP friendly.
 
RE: Energizer Bunny Band  
by K0BG on September 26, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
Geez, Paul, I thought you still lived off County Line Rd? And now, you've actually found a place with better ground conductivity? When I lived on South Newcomb Way, anything less than about 50 radials didn't work at all! Even on 30 meters! Must be those iron filings you spread all over the back lawn!

Alan, KBG
www.k0bg.com
 
RE: Energizer Bunny Band  
by VK2DX on September 26, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
Yes 30m is a great band. But what most USA amateurs don't realize, is that here in VK, the legal limit for CW on all bands is 120 watts!

So when you think you are restricted with your 200 watts on 30m, have a bit of sympathy for us here on all bands!
 
RE: Energizer Bunny Band  
by VK2DX on September 26, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
Sorry, forgot to identify myself.

John VK2DX
 
RE: Energizer Bunny Band  
by N3OX on September 26, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
"But what most USA amateurs don't realize, is that here in VK, the legal limit for CW on all bands is 120 watts! "

Eh, 10*log(120W/200W) = -2.2dB

I'll still hear you! Besides, I'm sure there aren't a whole lot of us up here who bother with the 200W... sure, those that have some of the new bigger rigs with 200W PA's and so forth probably do, but I bet a lot more people just run 100W barefoot than bother to get up to 200W.

See you on 30... I love the band too. CW DX abounds and PSK is becoming popular up at the top of the band around 10.140.

Lots of fun.
 
RE: Energizer Bunny Band  
by N3OX on September 26, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
Understand the all bands, BTW... that is pretty low power compared to the rest of the world on 20m ... makes 30m a good option though!!!
 
RE: Energizer Bunny Band  
by N4KZ on September 26, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
Thirty meters is in a nearly ideal part of the HF spectrum. It's quite the DX band, as you guys know. I've had really good luck on it over the years and find it's often very good in the late afternoon in fall and spring for longpath into the Indian Ocean and VK.

As much as I like the band for CW and even some digital, I hope the amateur community is someday successful at the WRC events in obtaining a larger allocation at this frequency so that we might have room for voice operation too. Now, that would really be something.

73, N4KZ
 
RE: Energizer Bunny Band  
by AE6RO on September 26, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
Well I don't know about 30 meters. I've made a few half-hearted efforts to get on it but I don't have room on my roof for such a large antenna.

What about 60 meters? It ought to be twice as much fun!

Read "60 Meters: A Model for the Future," it is really very funny! Although written in 2003 (funny I don't remember seeing before today) it is a real hooter!

The writer makes the laughable proposal to convert a Heathkit transceiver to crystal-controlled 60 meter operation. How very, very funny!

On a slightly more serious note for us notoriously tight hams, the five crystals would cost over $100.
Plus the cost of food-- er, the transceiver.
Can you imagine anyone doing that? I can't, and I have quite an imagination. 73, John
 
RE: Energizer Bunny Band  
by K3NRX on September 26, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
30 meters rocks! Nuff Said.

Vince P
KA3NRX

 
RE: Energizer Bunny Band  
by NS5M on September 26, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
Sez Vince: "30 meters rocks! Nuff Said."

Sez me, "Concur, con gusto!"

CU on CW,
Jim NS5M
 
Energizer Bunny Band  
by K7QQH on September 26, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
Yep--

Agree with all the prior comments about 30 being a great band. I "broke in" my K1 and longwire (strung up in the tall fir trees) working 30M DX, and there are early evenings when the band is open from VK land/southeast Asia to Europe. From here in Seattle-town we're right about in the middle, and you can work both directions with ease running only 5 watts or so.

73's and CU on the band,

Roger C.
K7QQH
 
Escape To 30 Meters  
by KJ7BS on September 26, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
In addition to DX, I use 30 meters as a safe haven from contests. NO CONTESTING ON 30 METERS! When the CW bands are packed with CW and RTTY contesters, 30 meters is a place of refuge.

Among other things, 30 meters is quiet. It offers a lot: 50 KHz of contest free spectrum, 50 KHz of phone free spectrum, 10.106 MHz for QRP, 10.114 MHz for county hunters, 10.118 MHz for FISTS calling frequency, 10.120 MHz for SKCC calling frequency, great DX, Digital modes. It is unfortunate the band is not more popular.

I managed to put Antartica log book last summer on 30 meters with 5 watts from my K2 and a vertical antenna. I've had DX stations answer my CQ and I've put several DXpeditions in the logbook, too.

Mark, KJ7BS
Glendale, AZ
 
Energizer Bunny Band  
by K1CJS on September 26, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
Gee, I'm surprised nobody has said anything about the author calling this the 'Energizer Bunny' band yet.
 
Energizer Bunny Band  
by G0GQK on September 26, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
Energiser bunny band ! What !!! We could do with a few hundred energised bunnies in Europe to wake it up. There is absolutely no digital activity on 30 metres, and I've been trying for years to have a few contacts on the band during the day. Please don't tell me the band is hopping at 04.00 UTC because I'm most certainly not getting up at 03.30 to find its as dead at that time as 11.00 am !

Mel G0GQK EPC #1083
 
RE: Energizer Bunny Band  
by NO9E on September 26, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
When I operated as KP2/NO9E or TA/NO9E, 30m was the best band. In both cases the radio was K2 QRP with some random length vertical and one random length radial.
 
RE: Energizer Bunny Band  
by N4KC on September 26, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
When I became inactive on HF, the WARC bands were just about to open. Then, when I finally got back on the air three years ago, I was very curious about what these chunks of spectrum would be like. 17 was immediately one of my favorite bands and remains so. 12...well, we'll see in a couple of years. But 30? Wow!

I can hear DX most any night. Still, there are plenty of guys who just want to ragchew. I'm not into digital modes, but there appears to be ample activity to find somebody to exchange 1s and 0s with.

AE6RO: a full-wave resonant horizontal loop for 30 is only about 25 feet long on each of its four sides. Feed it with ladder line or equivalent and you have a good antenna for 30 through (and maybe beyond) 10 meters. Surely you have a 25 X 25-foot square spot in the attic or somewhere!

I think another poster was correct, too, that most of us are using 100 watts. There's little point in cranking down an amp to 200 watts. I've worked the world with 100 watts and either a big multiband loop or a multiband dipole. By far my easiest QSO with 3B7C was on 30...twice!

73,

Don N4KC
www.n4kc.com


 
Energizer Bunny Band  
by N3QT on September 26, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
80M --> "Johnny Walker Red Label" band.

... a bar stool and a mic.

{Personal observations noted and my opinion.}
 
RE: Energizer Bunny Band  
by N4MJG on September 26, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
30 meters sound like fun ! i have never worked 30 meters. i'll gave it a try !


73
Jackie
KG4ORX
 
Energizer Bunny Band  
by KB6NU on September 26, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
I like 30m, too, but I sure do wish there were more activity on the band. Even so, 30m is my favorite band to work the DXpeditions. With fewer stations on 30m, I've found it easier to work them there.

For a while, a group of us were considering starting a 30-30 club patterned after the 10-10 club to spur activity on the band. It's still an idea, but one drawback is that there's no contesting on 30m.
 
Energizer Bunny Band  
by K0RGR on September 26, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
I haven't had a great 30 meter setup for years, but it's high on the list of priorities for the next hamshack, which is being planned right now.

When I lived on the west coast, I had a decent 30 meter antenna, and it was real easy to work Europe at night, as well as anywhere in North America. I never ran over 100 watts on the band.

And, yes, lots of us are using PSK31 there. This IS the band where we should be doing digital stuff, day and night. That's the greatest part of this band, when the sunspots are much above zero, it's open all the time for DX - even more than 20 meters. It's the ideal place for low power digital and CW guys to be.

Every ham rig manufactured in the last 20+ years has 30 meters on it, so I don't understand why we don't use this great band more than we do - particularly the digital guys!
 
RE: Energizer Bunny Band  
by NK2X on September 26, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
For those that are interested, the following is a spot page for digital activities on the 30m band. Not a huge number of us yet, but growing every day, and there's a ZL and VK contingent now, too.

http://www.projectsandparts.com/30m/

Anyone who wants can make spot entries or general comments here. It's useful for seeing who's on the band and who is hearing what, and where.

73!
Larry - nk2x
 
Energizer Bunny Band  
by VK4BDJ on September 26, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
Hi...i am a digital only operator and i find 30m a great band for a challenge...some days down under its open other days it shows nothing.....use PSK31 most of the time however have tried RTTY and ThrobX1 with some success.....have worked into both NA and EU when the band is open here....use a TS-140S into a 2-30mhz Inverted V
with about 40 watts of power.....QRP to some op's but its the best i can do....makes for good challengers....
hope to see some of you on my screen

David VK4BDJ in sunny Townsville
 
Energizer Bunny Band  
by K0RGR on September 26, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
I'll add another endorsement for the band.

A couple years ago, I took a business trip to England. Unfortunately, I was ill, so I didn't do much sightseeing. But, I had my little FT-817 with me, and a small antenna tuner and various pieces of wire.

I was able to suspend a wire outside the window of my 3rd floor hotel room.

The power line QRM was ferocious, as I was only a couple blocks from a main AC power distribution line. But, oddly enough, 30 meters was fairly quiet, and I was able to make QSO's on the band.

I was amazed at the amount of activity! The band was full of CW from one end to the other, and I was hearing signals from all over Europe, Africa, and Asia in the early evening!

Whatever one may think, CW is very much alive and well. It may be hiding on 30 meters!
 
RE: Energizer Bunny Band  
by N3OX on September 26, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
"CW is very much alive and well. It may be hiding on 30 meters!"

30m CW was very much my go-to band/mode for DXing from an apartment.

Most of the all-time-new DXCC I worked from the apartment, I worked on 30m.

Good propagation, no kilowatts*

If you're in a tough DX situation, 30m is really a stellar band.

Dan

*I know someone will say that some people cheat and use their amp anyway on this band, but I don't believe that the majority of hams or even a substantial minority are cheaters. There are a few, but most of us play by the rules.

 
RE: Energizer Bunny Band  
by K8MHZ on September 26, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
"After all, we have three young kids and I can't just run a bunch of laid out radials."

Bury 'em!

(The radials, not the kids)

:)
 
Energizer Bunny Band  
by VE3MFN on September 26, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
30m? What 30m?? Listen, cant we just keep this a well kept secret? Great band and I love it-------BUT I dont talk about it........(-:

--... ...--

Richard VE3MFN
 
Energizer Bunny Band  
by K0ZN on September 26, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
I agree that 30 M has some amazingly good propagation at times. 30 M seems to "work better than it is supposed to".... but part of that is because all of the QSO's are taking place on CW...those who operate CW know full well what it can do in weak and marginal conditions.

The "reward" for learning and operating CW is making contacts (especially with DX)and/or under marginal conditions with a modest station set up that would require a large antenna system and higher power on SSB.

Amazing how an "obsolete" mode is so efficient and effective.

73, K0ZN
 
RE: Energizer Bunny Band  
by KF4KQI on September 26, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
The first rule of 30m is you don't talk about 30m.....
 
RE: Energizer Bunny Band  
by KG4RUL on September 27, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
".... but part of that is because all of the QSO's are taking place on CW..."

But what about us poor PSK geeks? If we exchange information, do we not rate as a QSO?
 
RE: Energizer Bunny Band  
by JJ1BDX on September 27, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
I've found the 30m is so far the only band I confirmed for Swains Island (after when it became a new DXCC entity since July 2006). So far 111 entities are confirmed for my 30m QSOs, since January 2003, after I got the ticket for the band.

For a quarter-wavelength vertical and 100W TRX, on the 30m band, CW works very well, RTTY also works well, PSK31 too; and even JT65A works well for a trans-Pacific QSO with an American station.

Listening to the 31m broadcasting band with a 30m antenna is also interesting.

I wish more US stations will show up.

73 de Kenji JJ1BDX(/3), JO3FUO es N6BDX

 
RE: Energizer Bunny Band  
by N3OX on September 27, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
P29VCX worked 1306Z ... 10.104, nice signal to W3 ;-)

Hey, N0AH, thanks for a topic that we can all say good things about, by the way!

Wonder if the VK9W is kicking around 30m somewhere... couple minutes before I ride off to the lab...

Dan
 
RE: Energizer Bunny Band  
by AB9LZ on September 27, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
I've lost count the number of times I've opened up with a 5 watt CQ on a seemingly dead 30m band, only to have somebody in the Ukraine or Paraguay (or alot of other far away places) come back to me.

73 m/4
 
RE: Energizer Bunny Band  
by K8CXM on September 27, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
I don't like to talk about how good 30M can be either, but I think it's too late. A few years back I discovered 30M and quickly hung a 23' chunk of #12 from a tree limb and put about 20 radials under it. This was back when almost everyone else found it but used what they had: 40M dipoles, 20M yagis etc. That stupid vertical really rocked. But eventually the good antennas started showing up: Quads, yagis, etc. and it quickly got a lot tougher. Oh well, it's still a fun band and to date I have worked about 180 countries on 30 with my paltry 100W. Best memorable QRP contacts are R1ANN,IZ5EKV,UT5XS,9A5K and ZL1BYZ all with 5 watts! Current antenna is just a 46' high inverted V, but I've tried so many different wire antennas on this band. However the V has given me the best noise to signal ratio. The only real problem I've found on this band is that I keep hearing and working the same DX I worked on it years ago. But, like I said, a fun band, and I keep coming back.
 
RE: Energizer Bunny Band  
by N3OX on September 27, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
"Best memorable QRP contacts are R1ANN,IZ5EKV,UT5XS,9A5K and ZL1BYZ all with 5 watts!"

ZL1BYZ's three element yagi up high probably helps...

Don't knock the big stations too much ;-)

I am going to have a big antenna for 30m when I get a tower.. at least a 2 el beam. I think a 30m Moxon would be very doable even on a modest tower.

Dan
 
RE: Energizer Bunny Band  
by W7ETA on September 27, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
My only confirmed Q with BS7 is on 30.
 
Energizer Bunny Band  
by AF9J on September 27, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
<snip!>

"When I operated from VK9L in 1998, the flux was around 70, the K was running 6-7 and the A index was over 60 most of the time. But I worked stateside sunrise grayline right down to the numbers going east to west. It was really a case in point of applied theory to experienced DX."

30m is a cool band. I used to remember taking QRP rigs camping with me in the 90s & doing 30m. But can I ask a question Paul? You mention a K index of 6-7, and an A index of 60 while operating from VK9L on 30m. Are you sure? I've been doing VHF & UHF Auroral work for 20 years. Anytime the K index gets to 5 or above, and the A index gets above 30, the chances are good that there'll be an Aurora. And at the K & A numbers you mentioned, it would be a pretty strong one. Aurora has a tendency to trash the HF bands. Of course after it's over, radio condx. are often quite good. Still, thanks for the nice article on an often overlooked band.

73,
Ellen - AF9J
 
RE: Energizer Bunny Band  
by N7YA on September 27, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
I decided to read this thread and noticed a couple of things.

First, as i read this....my rig is on, and i see its on 30, go figure. Next, i have noticed a LOT of great qso's in my log on 30, some of which are rare DX i have on no other band but 30 (17 is like that too, but its tempermental), and finally...this thread is peaceful! wow!

I agree, 30 is a great band, it has the best aspects of the rest in regards to propagation. Its a bit small, only 30 khz for CW, then that huge constant RTTY signal from the news agency on 10.130 (we DO share the band with other services), then the digi folks get the other 20 khz above that...thereabouts. another good thing about it is no ssb. nothing against it, i actually used my microphone today to call some DX, but for all the good, decent ssb ops out there, its the main mode that the vocal minority of sociopaths use. this gives an unfortunate name to the good ssb ops out there.

The most important thing we can do is to keep using all of our bands, get on the air often and make new friends and show that we are still here.

73...Adam, N7YA
 
Energizer Bunny Band  
by WD9FUM on September 27, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
What's the best time (UTC) to work 30?
 
Energizer Bunny Band  
by N0AH on September 27, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
From Ellen: "30m is a cool band. I used to remember taking QRP rigs camping with me in the 90s & doing 30m. But can I ask a question Paul? You mention a K index of 6-7, and an A index of 60 while operating from VK9L on 30m. Are you sure? I've been doing VHF & UHF Auroral work for 20 years. Anytime the K index gets to 5 or above, and the A index gets above 30, the chances are good that there'll be an Aurora. And at the K & A numbers you mentioned, it would be a pretty strong one. Aurora has a tendency to trash the HF bands"

Good question. From VK9L, I was not going over the LP. I think the actual K and A indexes were even higher than I wrote but I would have to back and look- As far as when is the best time to work DX on 30M, I think around the grayline going to the east or your grayline going to the west. My idea was not to do 100% of my DX'ing on CW. More like 50/50 and I wanted to work a lot on 17 and 12M. I was there for a WARC band dx'pedition. Force 12 actually made me a very light weight beam which I took with me for 12/17M but I just used it to work JA's on 17M except for finally one day with Stateside. Even spoke to the YL on a phone patch. I do find the 30M band open 24 hours a day to somewhere. I only operate around 10.101-.110MHz. I don't work digital, only CW. I have a home made QRP rig and on my 756 Pro III, it is day to day as to what gets out- I only use 100 watts but I an tell you this......there are a lot of amps out there with 30M on them and I think that's like allowing worms to stream fish- Some waters should be left alone (<: As for the buried radial comment....new house, perfect lawn, not the time! de N0AH
 
Energizer Bunny Band  
by AA1IK on September 28, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
Hello Everyone,

This is my log for 30 meters for the month of September. So far 51 Q's with lots of DX.

I worked other bands too and my goal was to work 100 Q's this month, I'm at 83Q's now. Hope to get the rest on 30 this weekend.

Next month I'll try for 100 Q's using CW on 30m.

Some QSO's were rough, and could not maintain a conversation. I use a dipole up 40 feet, 50 to 100 watts. I run into lots of QRP here. I might even try some this week end myself.

As I write this there is a QSO going on on 10.104 right now.

Want to see something interesting? Park on a main frequency and monitor it for a couple of hours as you do other things. You'll be surprize how many show up.


I use MixW to send from my keyboard due to tendonits, typing does not bother it as much as using paddles.
MixW reads CW if the signal ratio is good.

I monitored 10.110 for a few hours and quite a few showed up.


CW IK1RLI
CW T99W BOSNIA
CW G6PZ
CW VO2ZT
CW AN5EB
CW XE2S SONORA
CW OM7SEM
CW W3DF WEST MINSTER MD
CW WA2VYA COLT S NECK NJ
CW W5TMO AUSTIN TX
CW W9DY/M CHICAGO IL
CW K0ASE/M TEXAS
CW W4MY ROCKY MOUNT NY
CW G3NKC
CW W2RS
bug op
CW WA0QZ WARSAW IN
CW K2PMC DERBY NY
LOTS OF QRN
CW K4YFR Virginia Beach va
LOTS OF QRN
CW NU2YN W NEW JERSEY
LOTS OF QRN
CW K5RN JACKSONVILLE TX
GOOD SIGNAL es VFB QSO
CW W2SEF LONG ISLAND Y
CW WT8N CHAIMBERLAIN ME
5 WATTS FROM MAINE
CW N2KZ KATONAH NY
5 WATTS
CW W0SJS ST LOUIS MO
CW K9EVC CHICAGO
CW NT2A STATEN ISLAND
BORN IN RUSSIA
CW WB8AJR AKRON OH
CW AB3FH GERMAN TOWN MD
CW K9EVC CHICAGO
CW KD8FZ CINCINATI OH
WAS USING 5 WATTS EARLIER
CW AB8AV NORTON OH
AMATEUR ASTRONOMER
CW N6OND SAN FRANCISCO CA
CW KK9H CHICAGO IL
CW WE7G CLINTON UT
CW KB7ZO MERIDEN ID
CW K0RDW ST PAUL MN
CW G3NKC England
CW EI9JF IERLAND
CW 9A4W CROATIA
CW K1PUG NEW HAVEN CT
CW HA3OD
CW W0GMO Denver Co
CW W2BEE NY
CW WA2MDF Winooski Vt
CW CO8LY CUBA
CW WB2RZU Long Island ARMINGVILLE
CW SY5OG
BUSTED CALL
CW K5RSJ ALBUQUERQUE NM
CW W5TOM Houston Tx
CW W9IK
CW K2ZR Niagra Falls


I hope this stirs up some interest in 30 meters, a VFB band.

de AA1IK/P

Ernie Gregoire

Portable in Old Town Florida
 
RE: Energizer Bunny Band  
by KI4PGS on September 28, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
sounds like you guys are doing great, but I've never heard ANYONE answer my CQs. my success has been on 20 & 40.
 
RE: Energizer Bunny Band  
by AF9J on September 28, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
Thanks for the reply Paul! :) Silly me! I Googled Norfolk Island, and learned it was at 29 degrees South. I always assumed it was south of Austrialia, ala Tasmania's latitude. At Norfolk Island's latitude, via short path, condx. should still be OK during an Aurora. Thanks for clarifying things. I should have known better. I think 30 is a blast.

73,
Ellen - AF9J
 
RE: Energizer Bunny Band  
by N3OX on September 28, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
"I've never heard ANYONE answer my CQs. my success has been on 20 & 40."

What's your antenna?
 
RE: Energizer Bunny Band  
by KI4PRK on September 29, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
The only bad thing I have to say about 30 is that my auto-tuner won't tune my (borrowed) Yaesu FT-890 to that band!!! Not only that, but, during 3B7C I decided to try for them on 30 anyway. I turned the power all the way down to 3W... and I nailed them, with 3W to a zepp!!! Yes, the superb ops at 3B7C must take some of the credit, but I still love 30. I think it's a bit under used though, so, unlike some, for the moment it is not too small. I don't use it much, but only for the above reason. I'm going to get a manual tuner once I have the money... and then... mwa-ha-ha-ha-haa! vry 73, de Brennen KI4PRK age 13
 
RE: Energizer Bunny Band  
by AA1IK on October 1, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
Hello Everyone,

Update on my 30 meter 100 QSO quest for the month.

I didn't make 100, but I'll try again in October.
5 Q's a day will get 150 at the end of the month.

I did 4 Q's tonight in abominable band condx.

A 599 signal would hold for a few minutes but drop out completely. The QSB monster is well fed.

No contesting here so these are real QSO's.
Some are long winded rag chews some are very short due to QSB.

First QSO of the night was zippy peanut butter,
W1ZPB, Walt, an old aquaintance of mine in Vermont.

It was fun to chat for as long as it lasted.

Better days are comin, cycle 24 is going to make the long climb up Sunspot Hill, and we will enjoy low power Q's again without the deep fading.

There are times when I get no answers to my CQ. I tuned around to find no other signals not even the ubiquitous news service RTTY signal tonight.

Someone had thrown the switch and shut off the band.
This was about 01:00z

Tomorrow is another day.

Don't be discouraged, even W1AW faded out on me on 20 meters the other day.

de AA1IK/P

Portable near the Swuanne River,
 
Energizer Bunny Band  
by DL4EAX on October 2, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
Wow, did not expect that many hams are active on 30m!

Did some really nice DX contacts on 30m in PSK, CW and RTTY.

Will call CQ on 10.140 (PSK31) more often now!

Michael
 
RE: Energizer Bunny Band  
by WA2JJH on October 2, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
30M has GREAT potential! Problem is some are so spoiled of 20M. 20M is shooting fish in a barrel!
30M just takes a little more op skill and patience.

I remember in the late 1970's. When 20M was too crowded....we all got mucho DX on 15M.
Problem is many newbies think 20M is the only real DX band.
 
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by N3AIU on October 2, 2007 Mail this to a friend!

I like 30m. I have made 99.999% of my QSOs using CW on this band. The reason for this slight deviation from 100% is a single PSK31 QSO to St. Paul Island (CY9).

Unfortunately, in my flat in Germany there is solid noise from 10.110 to 10.115 that never goes away (other sources, probably produced by noisy power supplies in my building, are intermittent).

Incidentally, there appear to be two strong RTTY signals on 30m. One right at the bottom of the band and one near the middle of the band. I have tried to decode them without success. I have heard them from my QTHs in Arizona, Colorado, and Germany. Does anyone know what they are?

73, Nick N3AIU/DL1NE
 
RE: Energizer Bunny Band  
by N7YA on October 2, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
Yep, news agency RTTY station...i judge how the band is sitting by how loud they are...particularly the one at 10.130. It also tells me when i should start tuning the other way if im not looking at the LED when im tuning around 30. sometimes i can barely hear the big ritty station, and sure enough...no other signals on the band. There are times when i can barely make out WWV on 10.000.

But i agree with the previous poster, good times are a comin'...they are coming indeed! just you newbies wait, 30 will open up like bomb bay doors...it will be amazing how many signals you can cram into a 50 khz space. :-) youre going to love it, i cant wait.

73...Adam, N7YA
 
RE: Energizer Bunny Band  
by AA1IK on October 2, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
Hello Everyone,

I'm on my way in my quest for 100 QSO's on 30 in a month. I made 7 contacts tonight. Some were poor quality but one in particular was great.Fl to Mo, for 30 minutes, just like the good ole days.

I hope this encourages some of you to get on the air and call CQ. Don't quit if you don't get a reply right away. I called for a half hour before I got a reply, then they were waiting in line to talk to me, no kidding they really were.

de AA1IK/P

Ernie Gregoire
 
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by AB7JK on October 5, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
Thirty is ok but still too few people use it and rarely is there any activity above 10110 khz. When sunspots improve 15 meters will be the band to beat. Smaller antennas, wider spectrum, and quieter.

Observation:

Only Americans are dumb enough to believe they can save money buy spending money.

 
RE: Energizer Bunny Band  
by AB7JK on October 5, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
Observations:

America would be great if the were no people and ham radio would be great if there were no hams.
 
RE: Energizer Bunny Band  
by KC9GUZ on October 12, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
Ive often been tempted to get on 30 and do some CW but unfortunately, my sending and receiving ability is no were near what most guys do on 30. My code is too slow! ARRRGH! Im seriously thinking about doing some digital on 30 useing PSK 31 and see what happens!!
 
RE: Energizer Bunny Band  
by AA1IK on October 12, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
Dear KC9GUZ and the gang,

I sympathize with your plight. I once thought that 10 wpm was fast. Please don't be intimidated by faster CW ops on 30 meters.

I routinely call CQ at 20 wpm and speed up if the op who answers me goes faster. I also slow down if the answering op comes back slower.

I encourage you to try CW on 30 at the speed that you are comfortable with. If this is 10 wpm then send at that speed.

One note of caution: Form your characters perfectly, no matter what the speed.

I hear a lot of speed demons who send so fast that they make plenty of mistakes. They have to send a stream of dits to notify the rec. op of the error.
They end up at a much slower effective speed.

It is very hard to copy CW when the sending op is sending every third character as jibberish, no matter what speed they try to send at.

Shame on the so called Speed Demons who slice and dice their code. They give CW a bad name.

These guys are only fooling themselves. They are not good ops because they can send a few characters at 30 or 35 wpm.

Good ops send clean code, no matter what the speed.

Good code is a pleasure to copy, even at a slower speed. Bad code is unpleasant to say the least and will shorten the qso like nothing else.

Don't be shy about asking the op to qrs. I do it all the time es would like to qso with you on 30 meters.

Give it a whirl, om.

de AA1IK/P

Portable near the Swuannee River
 
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by KN4LF on October 13, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
It's a great band for QRP operation. Propagation allows for medium distance contacts at day and worldwide contacts at night. The only kink in the armor being when the MUF drops below the band in the winter time at the bottom of the sunspot cycle like right now.

73,
Thomas Giella, KN4LF
Lakeland, FL
http://www.kn4lf.com
 
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