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EmComm Can Be Fashionable

from Francis Drake, KL7IPV on April 6, 2008
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EmComm Can Be Fashionable

by Francis Drake -- KL7IPV

When one thinks of an emergency communications location, some think of a dark place, out of the way and forgotten until the radios are needed. Even in emergency trailers or other modes of transporting the emergency radios, the locations are usually an after thought and do not look the best. It is tough to sell an idea to someone who doesn't want wiring everywhere and thinks of emergency equipment as intrusive and ugly. What has anyone done to change that image? What can anyone do to change that image? Historically we go into a location, sell the idea, show them a radio and tell them that we want to put it and the associated cabling out of sight so no one trips over it or otherwise feels like it is in the way. How do you sell that idea to a place that prides itself on looking good or being open to use by others? With the help of Tom Walker of Southern Hills Hospital in Las Vegas, Nevada, I may have found the perfect solution.

Tom Walker is the Director of Facilities at the hospital and after being approached by Howard Mark, K3HM who is the Hospital AEC for the Clark County ARES/Races, Tom became enthusiastic about setting up an emergency communications location in the hospital. With John Campo, his Chief Engineer, they set about locating a place in the hospital that would be suitable for the radios. They then allowed Frank Kostelac, N7ZEV; Linda Kostelac, K7IIT ; Mike Lee, WB6RTH; Tom Petrakis, KE4ULL; and Howard Mark, K3HM to run the cables needed to feed two dual band (2 meter and 440 ) antennas on the hospital's roof above the central building's fifth floor. They ran two LM400 cables down from the roof to the Education Room cabinet where they were terminated with “N” type connectors and then locked and protected from unauthorized use. The terminated LM-400 cables will have Belden 9107 coaxial adapter cables that run from them to the radios.


The terminated cable boxes

A suitable space existed right next to the incoming cable cabinet that was a perfect size and location for a desk and had an emergency power outlet readily available for use as well. In the past we would have been happy to acquire such a space and having tables and chairs would be a final touch for us. We talked about the radios being secured until needed and Tom Walker had a place for that too. But in the absence of me and Howard, Tom didn't stop thinking about the security and usefulness of the emergency location.

Tom Walker called me and said he had an idea for the emergency cabinet and wanted to talk to me about the idea. I went to the hospital and Tom and John took me to the upper unused floor of the hospital. There we found four cabinets that were not being used and had no future work location that was available for them to be used. If you have ever been hospitalized for any time, you may have noticed that the room where you stayed had a position for a computer for the station nurse to input their update about you. It is unobtrusive and compact. Some are made of metal and some are of wood. The ones we were to be given to use were made by “Proximity Systems” ( http://www.proximitysystems.com/) and are their CM models. They can be locked and remain secure until the next duty nurse has a need to use the computer. Tom was thinking hard now.

Tom asked if they would work as stand alone emergency communications cabinets. After looking them over, I thought it was a terrific idea. Not being familiar with them before, I would have never thought of them for that use. We took quick measurements of the cabinets and then the space made available for the emergency radios and they would fit with room to spare. Tom checked and found out the cabinets were not purchased with any particular location in mind and that he could acquisition two of them for his use. The deal was sealed! We now had cabinets for the use and security of the radio and associated equipment. The units were hung on the wall near the cabinet where the cables came in from the roof. The fit was perfect and an emergency stand by power outlet was available as well.


The two cabinets near the cable boxes

Tom and John weren't done yet! They didn't want us to have to worry about using an outlet that may need to be used by someone else so they arranged to have new ones placed inside the cabinets for the radios. The equipment for the cabinets was placed in them to figure out where they should be positioned and then Tom set to work getting them configured as we discussed. Each cabinet got it's own emergency power outlet. The outlets are tied to their emergency gensets that take about four seconds to come on line and provide the power needed for the total hospital. As long as the hospital had power, so did the cabinets.


The equipment in the left side

The cabinets were hung so the writing surfaces were about thirty one inches off the floor and can be closed to secure the whole setup. The coax cabling from the cabinets was placed inside a protective cover and run from both cabinets to the coax from the roof. The left cabinet supplies the total power to three radios in both cabinets from a 50A MFJ switching power supply. That is fed to a RigRunner 50A power distribution panel in the same cabinet as the power supply. The power leads from the left cabinet go through a protective cover to the right cabinet for those radios.


The upper part of the left cabinet

The cabinet on the left houses the two meter rig, an Icom IC-2200H with a DCI passband filter to keep any spurious radiation from affecting any of the in-house medical equipment used to treat hospital patients. The radio is mounted directly to the lower folding shelf and the mike is mounted to the back of the cabinet. The DCI passband filter is mounted on the lower back of the cabinet close to the radio to keep that lead short. A new Kantronics TNC will be mounted in the same cabinet with the IC-2200H. When looking into the cabinets it can be seen that the setup fits without being cramped and allows for the use of the radio with plenty of room to write. The installation in the cabinet is neat, clean, uncluttered and presents an appearance of one that “belongs” there. There is plenty of room for a computer to run the TNC programs when running Paclink or another program for passing messages between facilities.


The left cabinet ready to use

The cabinet on the right side of the space houses the two single band radios. One a 2 meter radio – an Icom IC-F121 and the other is a 440 radio – an Icom IC-F221. Power to these radios is provided from the MFJ power supply in the other cabinet and is brought overhead to the right cabinet through the conduit between the units. The DCI dual band passband filter is mounted in the upper part of the cabinet. The two radios are coupled with a splitter that will allow a single coax to run from the radios to the passband filter and then to the dual band antenna on the roof. In this cabinet the radios were mounted on the rear surface of the cabinet in order to in order to leave writing room on the shelf for or a computer to be used if needed.


The right cabinet ready to use

The two cabinets have a professional appearance when open and look like they are meant for serious business. The mounting of the radios and associated equipment gives one the looks of a plan well thought out and carried through in a manner that invites one to want to be part of a group that uses it. Gone are the days when a radio group could just put radios anywhere and then expect to be treated professionally. Now, in these times when Emergency Communications is a phrase for almost every activity, appearance plays almost as a large a part of where we are as well as how we are do our part when we provide communications. With thanks to all those involved in the acquisition and arranging to have placed these cabinets, that the hospital and the staff agreed to the need for them and the Clark County ARES/Races group to work together says a lot for the idea who's time has come. Professionalism is part of being an “Amateur” Radio Operator and having these cabinets provided by Tom Walker and the Southern Hills Hospital shows that it can be done well.


Both cabinets powered up and almost ready to use

The plan now is to use them at least once each quarter for regular ARES nets and hopefully that will all they will ever be needed for. But if the day comes that an emergency arises that calls for the amateur community to be in place, these cabinets will provide the space to do that in a manner that will let others know that EmComm can be fashionable and stylish while providing serious communications to the community

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EmComm Can Be Fashionable  
by KB9TMP on April 6, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Very nice setup! This would also be nice for those who need to have a closet 'shack'!
 
RE: EmComm Can Be Fashionable  
by K0BG on April 6, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Didn't I see this on the ARRl site?

Alan, KØBG
www.k0bg.com
 
EmComm Can Be Fashionable  
by WA4D on April 6, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
KL7IPV is like so many hams that "don't get it". Any effective organization is about people. About leadership. About execution. It's not about cabinets or the box. KL7IPV's piece typifies why ham radio is viewed by many as a group of buffons. Style over substance. And the closing sentence is enough to make one gag.

****************************************************


"if the day comes that an emergency arises that calls for the amateur community to be in place, these cabinets will provide the space to do that in a manner that will let others know that EmComm can be fashionable and stylish while providing serious communications to the community"
 
EmComm Can Be Fashionable  
by AD7KC on April 6, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
This is very nice, indeed. I’ve been thinking about something like this for my home station. At work, they are setting up some EmComm gear – and Ham gear. This looks like it will ‘sell’.

Great idea! Thanks!
 
RE: EmComm Can Be Fashionable  
by W1XZ on April 6, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Darn. I thought after reading the headline it was going to be a nice article about new fashions in day-glo vests and leather HT accessories.
 
RE: EmComm Can Be Fashionable  
by KG4RRN on April 6, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Just when I thought it might be about what kind of
stylish clothing and neato packs to wear for a disaster, stupid hospital cabinets again--argggg.
My orange vest that I bought from the ARRL three years ago is showing fading now, its no longer the bright orange people without sight expect to see.
I guess it's a 'come as you are' type affair...
I am really dismayed by the change to LIMEY LIME
by both bicyclists and emergency response hams like me.I had to even write ARES on my vest, like PRESS,
it' there for questions from PS officials who don' know that we take over their communciations...
Doesn't ORANGE have its place in emergency response anymore???
I did appreciate the diplexer,however...
 
EmComm Can Be Fashionable  
by KE7FD on April 6, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
KL7IPV, thank you for taking the time to show those of us interested in emergency communications a setup that is clean and functional. Too often we become stagnant in our thinking and examples of what is possible inspire us that we can do more to be of service to others around us especially during an emergency.

Glen - KE7FD
 
RE: EmComm Can Be Fashionable  
by KG6WOU on April 6, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Sounds like you have a good relationship with this hospital and are fortunate to be appreciated. The nice thing about this setup is that it's unlikely to go missing if it's not checked every day.

Better than some of the broom closets I've been assigned to over the years, that's for sure.
 
Nice setup and illogical hams  
by AI2IA on April 6, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
There is no reason why these ideas should be restricted to emcomm. This arrangement or similar modified ones would do well for digital modes or home or apartment use.

It is curious that an illogical segment of the ham population, knowing the proven value of amateur radio in emergencies would be so stupid as to engage in mockery and bashing of emcomm ham operations. There is no doubt something lacking in their personality make-up that prevents them from participating in emcomm and helping others in time of need, so to cover this defect, they like to voice their ridicule. Aside from their noise, perhaps its just as well that they stay clear of emcomm, if they just can't handle it.
 
RE: Nice setup and illogical hams  
by W6TH on April 6, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
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I read this before on ARRL.
http://www.arrl.org/news/features/2008/03/25/10023/


EmComm Can Be Fashionable

By By Francis Drake, KL7IPV
sirdrakejr@aol.com

March 25, 2008

W6TH

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RE: Nice setup and illogical hams  
by QRZDXR2 on April 6, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
W6TH on April 6, 2008
I read this before on ARRL.
http://www.arrl.org/news/features/2008/03/25/10023/

EmComm Can Be Fashionable

By By Francis Drake, KL7IPV
sirdrakejr@aol.com

March 25, 2008

> I too read it over on ARRL. Guess the owner wanted to make sure they covered all the bases. I wonder how though the ARRL feels about it being posted here on EHAM. Knowing that they claim once something is submitted it becomes the property of the ARRL. Could the ARRL then sue EHAM for using their property posting? Wonder if ARRL reads Eham and knows about this. I would think the web caretaker should know better than to post something already owned by the ARRL. Maybe they got their permission? members only?

Something about the law of ----

I still get the feeling that most hams get all warm and fuzzy feeling when it comes to EmComm until it becomes cold, wet and starts to stink. If you do the math only 1/10 of 1 per cent of the hams get involved with EmComm. The rest just use it for a personal ego boost at the poker club.

Nice woodwork though. Great place for the lap tops to get hooked to DSL.
 
RE: Nice setup and illogical hams  
by KL7FH on April 6, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Very nice Frank... Thanks...
 
RE: EmComm Can Be Fashionable  
by KI6CDF on April 6, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Your response is entirely inappropriate. How dare you?

What is it that you know about what this particular EMCOMM group is doing? Or is it your ignorance that is showing?
 
RE: EmComm Can Be Fashionable  
by N0FPE on April 6, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Nice...where can I get those cool cabinets for free???
 
EmComm Can Be Fashionable  
by W6VPS on April 6, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
KL7IPV
Interesting approach to keep the hospital "neat freaks" happy. Good luck with the ongoing operations.

WA4D
Good grief man...who pooped in your mess kit?

Paul/W6VPS
 
RE: EmComm Can Be Fashionable  
by K0BG on April 7, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
I have to agree with Mike on this one, at least in some respects.

I have a doctor friend who recently built a new home. The kitchen is to die for. Among its attributes is a $4,000 Italian-made, fully automatic espresso machine. It is a polished stainless steel thing of beauty. It has really nice blue LED lighting, touch-screen controls, and even an automatic milk dispenser.

The problem is, unless you've read the manual a few times over, operating it can be a rather messy situation. It requires almost daily maintenance, and replacement parts are hard to come by.

The point is, no matter how fancy-dancy some set up is, unless a trained crew is there to use it, and use it properly, it's just a bunch of parts stuck in a box.

For those who think this view is harsh, then you haven't actually been involved in a real, dyed-in-the-wool, EMCOMM operation.

Alan, KØBG
www.k0bg.com
 
RE: EmComm Can Be Fashionable  
by KE4MOB on April 7, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Speaking of manuals....

I don't see any in the accompanying photos. I also don't see a list of programmed frequencies posted. Nor do I see a pencil or other writing materials. A system diagram might be helpful as well.

The first impression you're going to make is one of unpreparedness by running around asking "do you have a pencil I can borrow" or "what memory channel is the XYZ hospital on"??

This installation is lacking in information and materials a operator would need to know. I suppose they are to sit down and using ESP, figure out whats what?? This information should be a permanent part of the installation.

 
RE: EmComm Can Be Fashionable  
by KC0YWZ on April 7, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Whoa settle down folks... First of all, be careful about using "fashionable" and "stylish". If you're doing emcomm the important thing is handling the emergency, not ooing and aahing over the sweet radio setup. That being said, if you can make it look nice AND be efficient for emcomm, then go for it. I imagine clients will appreciate you taking the time for a neat install that isn't an eyesore. Aesthetics are good, but they don't mean much without practicality.
 
RE: EmComm Can Be Fashionable  
by KJ4AGA on April 7, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
WOW! I love this. It's not really only for emergency comm, it's a great way to save space in the shack. Great work!


Brian
KJ4AGA
 
RE: EmComm Can Be Fashionable  
by K3UOD on April 7, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
What the nay-sayers are missing is that EMCON groups are going into spaces that are not their own and installing their equipment.

You need the permission of the people who own the spaces, and a neat installation can be crucial to gaining that permission.

Our county has installed antennas on the roof of all the county-owned firestations for use by RACES.

The volunteer stations are not county owned and we have to negotiate the installation with the Volunteer FD leadership.

A neat installation really counts.
 
RE: EmComm Can Be Fashionable  
by KE7KLY on April 7, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
I think it's very nice that these folks gave of their time and energy to provide the hospital something to be proud of in their effort to be prepared,(like Boy Scouts). Hospitals have constant fire drills, diaster preparedness drills, stolen baby drills, ad nauseum. But in the end it's all for a good cause, no matter how trite it may seem. Kinda like the pablum Homeland Security feeds us, it makes everyone feel alittle more secure, plus you never know when it might actually save lives.
 
EmComm Can Be Fashionable  
by KD5UPL on April 7, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
I want to sincerely thank you for your article. Working in a hospital myself, this solved our challenge to secure our equipment, have it readily available, and out of sight until needed.
 
RE: EmComm Can Be Fashionable  
by AI4NS on April 7, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
The 50A switching power supply is nice, but is also a single point of failure. If it goes, so do all of your radios. It would be better to have 2 or more.

Mike
AI4NS
 
RE: EmComm Can Be Fashionable  
by AB0WR on April 7, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
ke4mob:
>>>>Speaking of manuals....

I don't see any in the accompanying photos. I also don't see a list of programmed frequencies posted. Nor do I see a pencil or other writing materials. A system diagram might be helpful as well.

The first impression you're going to make is one of unpreparedness by running around asking "do you have a pencil I can borrow" or "what memory channel is the XYZ hospital on"??

This installation is lacking in information and materials a operator would need to know. I suppose they are to sit down and using ESP, figure out whats what?? This information should be a permanent part of the installation. <<<<

Nor do I see anything that will allow long term operation of any computer equipment. E.g. no power conections for when laptop batteries die, no interconnect system provided for access into the radios by a tnc or laptop sound card, and no list of what remote systems are using what software so that connections can be made easily.

If you are into looking at pretty installations, this one is a good example. If you are into looking at *usable* installations, this one is still lacking. I'm still amazed that installations like this never make any provision for use of public broadcasts over TV and Radio, including NWS weather radio. Those are *still* primary sources for emergency agencies to get information out to the civilian population and those hams manning this kind of station need to make arrangements to keep abreast of public announcements made over those channels. Since you simply *can not* use a radio for emergency communications *and* for listening to the weather service at the same time the simplest thing is to have a weather radio provided as part of the standard equipment at the site. Something like a Jensen 2.5" TV and a Sony Walkman should be considered standard equipment at a permanent installation like this one.

tim ab0wr
 
RE: EmComm Can Be Fashionable  
by M5GWH on April 7, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
I don't get WA4D's reaction to this posting.

The last sentence may have made him gag - but doesn't the actual setup show an air of professionalism and readiness through the use of modern radio equipment that medics and other emergency professionals would prefer - rather than a pile of bad installed gear old gear that is unreliable and sees them losing any confidence in an essential and, often, reliable voluntary service?

From what I see and have seen as Emergency Comms systems, this is an exceptionally professional and well planned setup - simply stash a collection of VHF/UHF handies (and maybe even handies used by the emergency services so organisations can work side-by-side) on constant charge in the large white cabinet along with proceedural manuals and a FM/AM windup radio, etc, and you've a system that is reliable and failsafe and ready for any emergency situation.

Leigh, M5GWH
 
RE: EmComm Can Be Fashionable  
by K6AER on April 7, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Although the installation is neat and from an installation perspective and hidden away, I don’t see the bigger picture in place.

Several radios have the front panels facing up and basically out of sight.
Where are the radio manuals?
There is no desk room.
No pins, pencils and paper?
Laptop room and extra plugs?
Where is the internet connection?
Where is the local router?
Where are the phones?
Is there a TV in the room.
Large wall map of the area
Emergency power? We all know what happened to them in the last BIG hurricane. Don’t depend on hospital generators. Better have local UPS and battery backup.
Chargers for HT’s.
Flashlights?
Where is the local frequency charts of repeaters?
What is the interface function with the RED cross and the hospital. This is a huge area that is often the gray elephant in the room which hams ignore.

And yes this is the biggest problem with most Ham Emergency E-Com set ups is a lack of understanding of how they are actually going to help in an emergency. The cabinets and installation is fine but in actuality a HT at a desk with a phone will be more functional in a real emergency.

As much as hams hate to admit it the cell phone is the preferred radio of choice in emergencies. Case in point, when your spouse leaves the house do they take a HT or a cell phone with them?
 
EmComm Can Be Fashionable  
by KC0SHZ on April 7, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
This raised a thought. These were very common in hospitals in the "pre-HIPPA" era. No one uses them anymore. I bet you could get a good deal on those if you would come take them off the walls.
 
RE: EmComm Can Be Fashionable  
by W6TH on April 7, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
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A bird in the hand is worth more than two in the bush.

It is better to have had than to never have had at all.

In case all fails, call 911.

.:

 
RE: EmComm Can Be Fashionable  
by W6TH on April 7, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
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The attack on Pearl Harbor was a surprise attack against the United States' naval base at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii by the Japanese navy, on the morning of Sunday, December 7, 1941, resulting in the United States becoming involved in World WarII.

That Sunday afternoon/evening we had nine mobile units, fully trained and a central communications center in our town municipal office. Several transmitters and receivers in full operation along with over one dozen fully trained ham operators, working both AM and CW, on most amateur bands of those days. The operation was just perfect and performed well, with many thanks from the politicians and not much need for other services.

This was with the proper training and the volunteers who understood what an emergency was. All radio equipment was donated by hams themselves or through the civil defense.

The operators were Amateur Radio Operators and not CB'ers of today.

73, W6TH
.:
 
RE: Nice setup and illogical hams  
by K5TR on April 7, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Several people have noted that this article also was posted on the ARRL web page on 25-March-2008.

This article was submitted to eHam.net by the author.
As far as I know we did not know that it had also been submitted to the ARRL.

I have contacted the ARRL to check their policy on web articles. The ARRL does not normally acquire exclusive rights to their web articles. This article is not an exclusive ARRL article.
 
EmComm Can Be Laughable  
by K4RAF on April 7, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
More Symbolism over Substance...

False Bargains, not True Value...

Nothing within 25 years of technologically "recent"...
 
EmComm Can Be Fashionable  
by KL7AJ on April 7, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Sir Francis Drake:

Just one word for your installation.

CLASS.


73!

eric
 
RE: EmComm Can Be Fashionable  
by KL7AJ on April 7, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
4D:

You might have read his LAST sentence, but you obviously didn't read any of the preceding. IPV describes in detail his association with the emergency services, the hospital, and has MADE all the necessary contacts. He has done his homework.

You should try the same.

Eric
 
RE: EmComm Can Be Fashionable  
by AJ4DW on April 7, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
I assumed that "fashionable and stylish" was tongue-in-cheek, but it really doesn't matter if it wasn't. "Neat and clean installation and safe storage" might have been better to avoid the trolls a little.

It's a nice setup, even better that the hospital cares enough to be so hospitable (no pun intended). I, too, would like to get my hands on a set of those cabinets... great!!
 
Not quite fashionable  
by KASSY on April 7, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Clean and neat and tidy is a good thing, but MAN that article did not deserve that many words.

Just a nice photo of the two pressboard/plastic cabinets would have served the purpose.

Why do I keep coming to ham sites on the internet? Bad enough that hams on SSB take ten times as many words as required to get a point across...on the 'net, they're 15dB worse!

- k
 
RE: EmComm Can Be Fashionable  
by W6TH on April 7, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
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I don't agree with this:

Gone are the days when a radio group could just put radios anywhere and then expect to be treated professionally.

This I agree:

But if the day comes that an emergency arises that calls for the amateur community to be in place, these cabinets will provide the space to do that in a manner that will let others know that EmComm can be fashionable and stylish while providing serious communications to the community.

This set up may be well and good for emergency situations within a state such as flood, hurricane, tornado, but what about a total invasion by a foreign country, blasting communications, which is the first thought?...Should a Militia (An army composed of ordinary citizens rather than professional soldiers) be considered?

Oh well, guess that will never happen, huh?

73, W6th and thanks for the wonderful post and EmComm construction.

.:
 
RE: EmComm Can Be Fashionable  
by KI4WAF on April 7, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
"The operators were Amateur Radio Operators and not CB'ers of today."

So I'm confused. Isn't anyone who isn't working CW a CBer? AM is a voice mode and it uses twice as much bandwidth as SSB. So why isn't an AM operator a CBer?
 
RE: EmComm Can Be Fashionable  
by KE7KLY on April 7, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Give the folks a break, they are trying to do good community service and have every right to be proud of themselves. Better all you naysayers start looking at things like the invasion of religion freedom going on by the government and stop being critical of people who are trying to do good.
 
RE: EmComm Can Be Fashionable  
by W7COM on April 7, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Thank you IPV! This is the answer to the space problem in the CERT trailers.
 
RE: EmComm Can Be Fashionable  
by KL7IPV on April 8, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Let me answer some questions.
#1 - The manual weren't there yet because I took pictures after we had the radios installed. The manuals are there now.
#2 - The radios are pre-progammed to all the frequencies used here.
#3 - There are three AC outlet boxes available right there with one inside each cabinet and one outside. Each outlet has is own breaker AND is connected to the emergency gensets and would be down for about 4 seconds while the gensets came up to power. It the hospital stays on line so does the radio station.
#4 - The fold down table offers plenty of room to write and hold the manuals.
#5 - the cabinets lock and the keys are available ONLY to me, the hospital director and security.
#6 - the hospital felt good enough about this that we are issued security badges to unlock the doors I need to get thru to reach this room.
#7 - The hospital allows us to use the room to conduct our nets and whenever we have a SET or other EMCOMM practice session.
#8 - The hospitals and the ARES groups here in Las Vegas have a great relationship and this only shows how far they will go to help us in that task.
It worked out well for us and them and the cabinets help us both put "our best foot forward" in that regard. Make snide or cute comments if you wish, but demeaning the effort doesn't help you and certainly doesn't hurt me since the effort has already been accomplished. As far as seeing this on ARRL, that is true. I retained the rights to use this article where I wished after it was posted in the ARRL Extra site. If it was published in QST they would have then gotten the total rights to the article.
The article has already helped in other locations where the local ARES groups were looking to get into hospitals but room was scarce. If I help others gain access to space that they would have otherwise not gotten, then the article had done what I hoped it would. That works for me!
73,
Frank
KL7IPV
 
RE: EmComm Can Be Fashionable  
by KI4WAF on April 9, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Frank,

The people making these rude comments are either not capable or unwilling to write useful articles of their own. Instead, they just scribble on the electronic "bathroom wall" that is the comments section of eHam. I try to avoid reading these comments, but sometimes I get really bored...

Thanks for your contribution!
-JP
 
RE: EmComm Can Be Fashionable  
by KC8VWM on April 9, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
KL7IPV de KC8VWM,

It's been my past experience that when writing articles on any ham related website, one should openly expect human nature to suddenly start carving various writings on the truck stop bathroom wall.

This ongoing phenomenon typically reflects the limited understanding of the individual posting the response and not necessarily the author in question.

...My opinion?

Basically, I felt the article was well intended and designed with the integrated good intention of promoting both emergency communications and amateur radio in the general community in a most positive light. (Yes, believe it or not, some of lurking out here still actually "get it.")

I can only wish future articles submitted and posted here will follow similar intentions and reflect such a high calibre of promoting our interests in the general community.

You nailed it square on the head Frank. Forget about the peanut gallery and please do keep up the good work. Well done Frank.

73 de Charles - KC8VWM
 
RE: EmComm Can Be Fashionable  
by QRZDXR2 on April 9, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
KL7IPV

While nice looking not very practical. If you look back at the pictures you will see your lock right in the middle of the "writing table bottom" That should work well on lap tops or other things that may want to sit level.

I would suggest that the lock be moved to the fixed portion of the medical equipment cabnets.

One other item I noticed was missing. Some LIGHT on the writing table. In one of your pictures you have some pretty dim views. I am wondering if a couple of the LED lights or some other light source could be added to help the op out after them long dark hours. Mounted in the top half maybe?

Close but still needs some refinements to help the poor op out. Spacing is needed. I don't see anywhere a phone connection or hospital phone. If you get messages over the radio, how do you get them to the necessary people? It also appears that the area where the radio is and where one would write down the messages is pretty small. I think mounting the radio up in the cabnet would have been better than having it sit on the counter where your trying to write.

I would assume that most ops are going to be wearing headphones. Again how does the op get the word from the hospital in or out? A local intra-net with computer might be more useful that hand writing a note and then having it run to the ward or doctor.

My comments are not ment to be degrading but rather to help make it better. While a nice try the functionability of the existing cabnets do leave a lot to improve upon. Would one do better in having a custom built cabnet installed that would function better for the long run?

In reading about PH WWII it was interesting to note that the hams equipment was not at the final station but rather brought from home. Mabye the same should apply here. If one used a utility traler that was self sufficent (had its own gen set, AC/Heat, even a potty) with all the equipment having a place in it that when a emergency happens its a simple matter to tow the trailer to the pre arranged location that has all the hookups, set up the necessary comm lines and your in business. You wouldn't be in the thick of things in the hospital but still have all the same comm within it from the outside. Same equipment could be used for other events including field day. Just some food for the head.
 
RE: EmComm Can Be Fashionable  
by KL7IPV on April 10, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
The whole room is lit up very nicely with lots of light for the tables which are really large enough to hold what ever is needed there. The phones are in the back wall with an outlet near the cabinets for messages when they are needed. The spacing is good with no interference between ops. The counter on the left side is large enough for any other activity called for. There is also a sink there to use if a drink or washing hands is needed too. The cabinets over the counter holds all the writing materials and manuals needed to operate for any one there. Those things were thought of and covered. Thank you for the kind words and advice.
73,
farnk
KL7IPV
 
EmComm Can Be Fashionable  
by W0ELT on April 11, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Very nice article. I always appreciate people sharing what they have done - especially with good pictures - like those included in this article. It's clear a lot of thought and hard work has gone into this installation. If amateur radio wants to be treated with the respect we think it deserves, it doesn't hurt to have our stations look professional. For those that don't like this installation - tell us what you have done that's better - I get a little annoyed with posts that sound like "everything in this article is bad but I'm too lazy to do anything myself - but if I did - it sure wouldn't be like this"
 
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by AB0WR on April 14, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
kl7ipv:
>>>>The whole room is lit up very nicely with lots of light for the tables which are really large enough to hold what ever is needed there.<<<<<

Have you had an emergency operation test where someone actually pulls the main breaker going into the hospital?

I remember conducting a test like this in a major telephone toll building one time. Guess what we found?

tim ab0wr
 
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by KB4TPP on April 17, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
I hate to agree, but WA4D has a valid point. The idea of coming into a closed organization, such as a hospital where I work, and being an "outsider" is one that doesn't really offer us anything we don't already have.

Amateur radio could be a great resource for us and public safety, if we would use it internally. However, anytime the idea gets thrown around about making new hams for said purpose, the amateur community at large, has a similar reaction and has disdain for anyone who isn't wanting to use it for "a hobby" and work DX on 80/40 and bucketmouth on a local 2 meter repeater for hours on end.

It isn't about equipment, it is all about people. One would be better served by not only encouraging the hospital and EMS system to install such stations, but also show them how to become hams and make use of it as a resource. No, ham radio isn't going to save the day, but it IS an invaluable resource that could be utilized when your 80 million dollar digital radio system is in fail soft or off the air, or you need access to weather spotter information without depending on local media, or in the few cases where some genius cuts a trunk lines and all your phone lines/fiber/voip goes offline. But the key here is by training your own staff to be hams, you don't have to rely on "outsiders" who often are not able to respond, and don't have to play politics either.

After all if you work somewhere, you have no choice to do what your told or seek employment elsewhere. The main complaint I hear often is how EMA staff, hospital staff et al can't really rely on outside "communicators" for these reasons. Why the ham community at large is so vehemently opposed to making new hams within our circles is so counterproductive and beyond me.

The future of our radio service depends solely on it's viability to serve the general public (read NON-HAM) at large. We don't exist in a vacuum. And fancy cabinets, equipment arrays, etc don't do anything to further the cause of putting the SERVICE back into the Amateur Radio SERVICE.
 
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by KL7IPV on April 18, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
AB0WR,
The hospital runs a full power out test monthly to be sure the genset comes online within 4 seconds and they get full power up to the panels so the outlets marked in red are powered too. They are very good at what they do at this hospital.
Frank
KL7IPV
 
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by KG4RRN on April 20, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Since one of the drones asked what I would do to improve on the situation in the article:
We can all find faults for whatever set-up we make, however, on a spur of the moment, are you really going to ba able to make it to the hospital to operate, maybe not, maybe you will be tied up in traffic, maybe you will run out of gas, maybe your car will break down at just the wrong time, maybe...
I could go on and on.
Point being: we are never prepared 100% for any EmComm
situation, but I found the most effective way to do a hospital drill.
My solution is fast and sloppy;
Get a backpack. Throw your two meter and 70 cm (seperate)mobile radios in the backpack.Carry your gellcells and HTs in another backpack. Have mag mount antenna, Two meter portable flex antenna. Have a seperate scanner which has rechargable batteries to monitor your local PS freqs.
Some are still re-broadcast on 154 or 450-470 Mhz from 800 Mhz, and carry your ac Power supply just in case your hospital has generator power, and AC plugs (which are usually marked orange or red).
Hospitals always have office desk space in Dr's. offices, or a quiet area, where there is a Staff Conference room, use that.
I want to tell the detractors that have personally emailed me, I have been fortunate to go through a lot of spur of the moment hospital drills, and that is real world experience, so go climb a tree if you are so jealous you cant stand the thought of a tech upserting your $3000.00 HF station with my interoperable communications...and doing that from a hospital where I had no clue on where I would operate.And operate sucessfully for hours ! And relaying information to the PS officials (including the DHS feds who needed to know how many busses were heading this way.)
Would the Texas delegation please refrain from chastisement??? I am a HAM, not HAMAS !
 
RE: EmComm Can Be Fashionable  
by NS6Y_ on April 24, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Some here seem to think ham radio can't be fashionable. But that is incorrect, ham radio can be very fashionable! Just look!

http://www.hamsexy.com/archives7.html
 
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