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For Me, Radio = Friends

Max Brandenberger (KD5SFK) on May 2, 2008
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For Me, Radio = Friends


During the 1970s, when I was a young boy, I watched with great interest as my father got heavily into 11-meter radio. I'm not talking about a couple of CBs in the cars...he had a serious station with a 30ft tower and stacked 3-element yagis. However, it is not the radios nor equipment that I remember the most, it is the friends he made on the air. As he got more heavily into the hobby, we spent more and more time going to visit the friends that he made on the air. For me, that was great fun--it meant more kids for me to play with. After several years on the air, our family had to move out of the area and my dad hung up the mic for good.


Fast-forward about 7 years. I was 14 and my best friend lived over 20 miles out of town. We would see each other at school, but spending time together after school meant coordinating with one or both sets of parents for making the 40-mile round trip. Talking on the phone was very limited because it was a long-distance phone call (remember long distance?). Then I got a brilliant idea. I dug out a couple of my dad's old 11-meter mobile rigs and went about setting up a communication system. The set-up on my end was a store-bought ground plane antenna and a mobile rig. On my friend's end, we had to build--yes build--a ground plane antenna because the only other antenna that was available to us was a mobile whip. I checked out an ARRL handbook from the school library and we built a ground plane out of the mobile whip, mirror mount, and some speaker wire. We got our contraption tuned to a 1:1 SWR and we were on the air!


As soon as I got home, I fired up my rig and gave it a try. I could hear my friend but he could not hear me. He had an elevation advantage over me, and the terrain between us was hilly. Undaunted, I dug around a bit more in my dad's 11-meter junk and found the "black box" that I knew would get the job done. Even turned down to 20 watts, my friend had no trouble hearing me, though I'm not sure anyone on my block could watch TV when we were talking! Once again, radio was facilitating friendship for me. We kept up our 11-meter contacts probably until we were both driving and able to see each other more often.


Fast-forward another 15 years. I was married, had a family, and hadn't thought about radio in forever. I found myself working from home--which is great--but I was beginning to crave additional human contact after spending months of 9-hour workdays at home, alone. A little Internet surfing led me to ham radio. I hadn't thought about ham radio in years. One of my dad's 11-meter buddies had upgraded to a ham license, and I remembered him talking to people all over the world. Ham radio sounded like just the ticket for me. I bought a book, a handy-talkie, and an HF rig and I got busy. I passed the Technician (and General written) exams at the next available licensing session I could find. I was on the air! It only took a few more weeks for me to pass the CW exam and I was on HF.


In the past 6 years, I've made more friends than I had made in my previous 30 years. Once again, I find that radio has facilitated friendship and happiness for me. Ironically, last year my family and I decided to relocate. We only moved 50 miles, so 2-meter communications back to our old home town are usually possible. One of the first things I did after moving was to get up on the roof and install a 2-meter beam so I could talk to my friends. It reminded me of setting up the 11-meter antennas with my friend when I was a teenager. And just like back then, copy can at times be a little rough. But when you've got friends on the other end, it is easy to overlook a little rough copy and QSB!


Max--KD5SFK

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For Me, Radio = Friends  
by N5JFJ on May 2, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Your post brought back some very good memories of the old days, and times long since past Max. My Dad was the same way into CB Radio, and although he wanted very badly to follow me and earn an Amateur license years ago, he just would continue to tell me Son, I just can't get that "DitDit-DahDah" down!

That was his words for Morse Code. He's been gone now, passed away, for over 6 Years, yet each time I think of those words, and I can still hear him say them, I smile.

God Bless...Jerry N5JFJ


 
RE: For Me, Radio = Friends  
by NV2A on May 2, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Nice story Max. Friendship and health are what drove me back to ham radio after nearly 10 years away. I needed the companionship of the guys in the radio club now that I'm into medical retirement. My other circle of friends are all still working. I sit out here in the country by myself and the VHF and HF keep me in the loop. It's been a great hobby.

Ray - NV2A

p.S. there's likely to be some "mental giants" show up on this thread, don't sweat them. Forums are a bit like people in that everyone has an a--hole.
 
For Me, Radio = Friends  
by WB9UYK on May 2, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Very nice Max. For those of us who have a history in Ham Radio, your article certainly brings back many fond memories. For me, some of my best friends, and the most real people I know, have been fellow hams. I hope that you and I and all those who read this post enjoy many years of friendship via Ham Radio. 73 my friend, David
 
For Me, Radio = Friends  
by K1CJS on May 2, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
A nice little story--I think there are a lot more of us out there that wouldn't even admit being part of the CB craze. That is how I really got interested in ham radio.

Thanks for the memories!
 
For Me, Radio = Friends  
by KB2DHG on May 2, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Yes, our beloved radio hobby has with it a lot of similar memories, As I have stated in previous articles, being a HAM RADIO OPERATOR means you will never be alone...
I have made some real good friends via this hobby...
I cannot imagine my life without it!

A very nice article... Hope to meet you down the log.
DE; KB2DHG
 
For Me, Radio = Friends  
by KB2DHG on May 2, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Yes, our beloved radio hobby has with it a lot of similar memories, As I have stated in previous articles, being a HAM RADIO OPERATOR means you will never be alone...
I have made some real good friends via this hobby...
I cannot imagine my life without it!

A very nice article... Hope to meet you down the log.
DE; KB2DHG
 
For Me, Radio = Friends  
by N4BRJ on May 2, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Great commentary, I enjoyed reading it.

After several years absence from the hobby, I'll be taking my General next weekend.

Hope to run into you along the way.

73
n4brj
 
For Me, Radio = Friends  
by VE6CNU on May 2, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Thanks for the nice memories. I started out in a similar way with a couple of 1W walkie talkies and a friend who lived a few blocks away. We both strung wires outside our windows to increase the range and found that we could communicate just fine - without using the telephone. We then got another friend interested and he bought a 5W mobile CB. So we had a sort of network established. Growing up in Windsor, Ontario (across from Detroit), I didn't realize what great propagation we had. With my 1W and random wire out the window, I recall working CBers in California and Arizona quite regularly. The DX bug was already alive and well!

One of my favorite moments was when the hockey playoffs were on and we could see the neighbor's TV from Jim's back yard. Just as someone shot on goal, Jim would key his mic and the neighbor's TV signal would get scrambled. It was great fun watching the neighbor pound on his set or try to adjust the bunny ears to improve the picture! Jim soon tired of this but Fred and I both got our ham licenses and actually started a club at our High School. We even had an electronics teacher who was a ham. He let us put a vertical on the school's roof and we had a pretty nice station with a DX-60 and Eddystone receiver. Over 30+ years later, Fred and I are still in touch - by email. He lives in Florida and suffers from HOA restrictions on antennas and I live in western Canada, now happily back on the air after about 25 years being away from the hobby. I'm still working on Fred to get him back on the air but guess he's having too much fun playing golf. In the mean time, I'm having fun with contests, DXing, and home brewing.
 
RE: For Me, Radio = Friends  
by W6TH on May 2, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
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Max--KD5SFK

as my father got heavily into 11-meter radio. I'm not talking about a couple of CBs in the cars...he had a serious station with a 30ft tower and stacked 3-element yagis.

30 ft tower was illegal for cb. 20 ft max.
..........................................


I dug around a bit more in my dad's 11-meter junk and found the "black box" that I knew would get the job done. Even turned down to 20 watts, my friend had no trouble hearing me, though I'm not sure anyone on my block could watch TV when we were talking!

Black box is illegal and should not be more than 5 watts.

WOW, what a great hobby, eh?

.:
 
RE: For Me, Radio = Friends  
by WB2WIK on May 2, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Nice story. Ham radio friends can indeed be very long-lasting. I keep in touch with ham buddies from 40 years ago to this day: Not just on the air, but in person.

More fun: Work DX and then meet them! I used to have a weekly sked on 20m with EA6BY in Mallorca and we always promised each other, "If you're ever here, don't forget to visit me!"

One day my doorbell rang at 6:00 AM and it was Matias, EA6BY on my doorstep, visiting from Mallorca. No notice, he "just happened to be in the area," gave my address to a cab driver at the airport, and showed up! What great fun that next few days were.

This kind of stuff does happen, and when you make international friends you can also go visit them and save money on hotels!

WB2WIK/6
 
RE: For Me, Radio = Friends  
by KD5SFK on May 2, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
W6TH,

No kidding!?

KD5SFK
 
For Me, Radio = Friends  
by KE4ZHN on May 2, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Nice story. This to me is the best part of the hobby. I have made friends via radio that Im still in touch with 30 years later. Along with enjoying worldwide communication and tinkering with the equipment, you can establish life long friendships with people youd never get to meet in your day to day life. This is just one more reason this hobby is a wonderful experience.
 
RE: For Me, Radio = Friends  
by QRZDXR2 on May 2, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
W6TH on May 2, 2008
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Max--KD5SFK

as my father got heavily into 11-meter radio. I'm not talking about a couple of CBs in the cars...he had a serious station with a 30ft tower and stacked 3-element yagis.

30 ft tower was illegal for cb. 20 ft max.
..........................................


I dug around a bit more in my dad's 11-meter junk and found the "black box" that I knew would get the job done. Even turned down to 20 watts, my friend had no trouble hearing me, though I'm not sure anyone on my block could watch TV when we were talking!

Black box is illegal and should not be more than 5 watts.

WOW, what a great hobby, eh?

----------------------------------------------

Now with no code and a simple memory test their is not much difference between then and now. Only the frequencys' have changed.
 
RE: For Me, Radio = Friends  
by WA1RNE on May 2, 2008 Mail this to a friend!

"Now with no code and a simple memory test their is not much difference between then and now. Only the frequencys' have changed."



......Indeed, just like the handful of folks who submit posts to eHam with a "handle" instead of a call sign.


>>> WA1RNE
 
RE: For Me, Radio = Friends  
by KB2DHG on May 2, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Your comment has been my worst fear realized....
That is exatly what is becoming of Amateur Radio. We lowered our standards and am getting a lower standard of operator. I left the ssb modes and found solice in CW!
 
RE: For Me, Radio = Friends  
by KG6WLS on May 2, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
"Now with no code and a simple memory test their is not much difference between then and now. Only the frequencys' have changed."

Uh,oh... I think I can see that horse coming around the bend. Here we go again!! :)
 
RE: For Me, Radio = Friends  
by W6TH on May 2, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
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KD5SFK on May 2, 2008
W6TH,

No kidding!?

KD5SFK


No kidding, as the cb was called the citizens band. Your dad helped to ruin the future of ham radio as what is also happening today with the carry over of cb'ers to ham radio. All you new comers do to ham radio is yak your big mouths off and not one sign of being a ham radio operator.

Once a cb'er always a cb'er things will not change and ham radio will be a certificate hunters club and nothing more.

SHAME SHAME, SHAME on you CB'ers. You are a disgrace to humanity.

.:

 
RE: For Me, Radio = Friends  
by N7YA on May 2, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Theres nothing wrong with getting your start in CB, the problem happens when folks bring the bad stuff from CB into ham radio...and to be honest, how valid an argument is CB these days? A number of years ago, everyone was worried that the millions of zombie CB'ers were going to get new dumbed-down, no-code tech tickets in ceral boxes (all of these terms were badly overused), and ham radio will change forever. Granted, i HAVE heard "10-04" and "come own" on ssb before, as well as the most ridiculous "roger beep" device coupled with delay effects, muddling up the frequencies....but very rare. In addition, none of these CB-ish ops were breaking any rules or being flagrantly offensive at all...they were just having normal qso's on the band. In short, regardless of their methods, they were fully licensed and using the frequencies. I'll never use a roger-beep machine, and i havent said "10-04" in 30 years, but who am i to judge?

Ham radio has changed, but its mostly changes in technology for the better...and no worries, they havent outlawed using old gear, thats the beauty of it. Ham radio always had the elitist, snobby old fart hams who dont like newbies (or anything for that matter), ham radio has always had socially awkward dorks who get all worked up over unimportant things, ham radio always had the pariahs who like to stir trouble just so they can personally see that they really DO exist in this world and arent invisible like all their teachers and parents treated them. But every group has this type of human mixture, and in most groups they are the most vocal, but they are also the least abundant. Simple fact, these negative elements have always been there from the beginning, and will always be there til the end...and we have always found a way to work around them, no matter how much they bug us, they cant prevent a determined person from having fun and making friends.

Truth be told, good hams who simply love playing radio and making friends far outnumber the bad ones who only like to disrupt the lives of strangers just to see a reaction. CB didnt bring any more bad habits to ham radio than a non-cb'er who wanted a ticket but also had a flawed view of themselves and the world around them...it could be anyone. Just tune them out. Hams are a nostalgic bunch, and often times the older hams want the recognition that they were sort of pioneers in the field, and new hams want recognition that they are now a member of the fraternity...if we can find a way to fix that fissure and bring a cohesion, we stand a better chance of defending our frequencies together.

No need to throw flowers around, group hug or sing Kumbaya (or however the hell you spell that), the basic joy of ham radio, with all its ups and downs, are all thats needed to continue. Most folks just need to relax on their fellow ham unless they are being disruptive as described above, we can all enjoy the different facets of this wide ranging hobby/service and never step on another hams toes if you arent trying to. Theres room for us all...and plenty of new friends yet to make.

73...Adam, N7YA
 
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by KD5SFK on May 2, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
W6TH:

As a matter of fact, my father never became a ham, and attitudes like yours are why. Think I'm kidding? Here is his story:

Sometime after my father became involved in CB, he and some of his on-air friends decided they wanted to upgrade to a ham license. They went to a license class sponsored by a local ham radio club, and even bought ARRL morse code tapes so they could learn CW, and license manuals so they could pass the written exams. The theory exam would have been a piece of cake for my dad...he had been an electronics hobbyist since he was a kid. And don't forget he had a better HF station (even if it was 11-meters) than most hams I know today.

Everything was going along just fine until some of the fellows who were teaching the license class found out my dad and his friends were CB operators. Well, the holier-than-thou hams made some insulting remarks about not wanting CB operators on the ham bands, and my dad got up and walked out of the class.

To this day, I cannot talk my father into getting his ham license. Even though I know he would enjoy it, and I know he could pass at least the General class exam without studying, he refuses to even consider it.

So Vito, I know you're reading this, patting yourself on the back thinking, "Yep, that's one CB operator we kept off the ham bands!" Well, sir, good for you. I'll agree with you that there are plenty of awful CB operators out there. And I'll even agree that some of them have migrated over to the ham bands. But keep this in mind....In the not too distant future, when AT&T, Verizon, or even Google offer the FCC billions for a piece of the ham spectrum for the latest and greatest wireless internet fad, the FCC is going to say "SOLD!" And why? Because attitudes like yours kept more people from getting on and operating on the ham bands.

Oh, and thanks for insulting two people whom you don't even know.

KD5SFK
 
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by W6TH on May 2, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
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Oh, and thanks for insulting two people whom you don't even know.

KD5SFK


I knew all about the two people as you have told me all about them.

Your present posting is nothing but an excuse to protect your backside, I have brought to you and many others attention just how the citizens band turned out to be, completely illegal and a rage of nonsense.

If, as you imagine, the bands will be sold, It will be due to the likes of the past, including the citizens band, called a hobby. "Ain't it the truth".

.:
 
RE: For Me, Radio = Friends  
by N6AJR on May 2, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
awww, don't worry about W6TH, he got mad when the quit using spark gap transmitters !!!



I amd an old CB retread, Got into ham radio because of the enjoyment of playing CB radio. I still have my old CB license, KWX6565 was my call, issued by the FCC and never exopires, so I guess its still valid.



I remember in the days of the 23 channel radios, most folks were pretty polite and CB was actually a useful radio service. some time after the 40 channel boom and ( dumping a zillion 23 channel sets) the bands got crazy, and vile. perhaps it was from giving all them kiddies 23 channel sets for 10 bucks each.



I remember when 11 meters was a ham band. folks its not the radio, its the folks using them. You have just as many jerks on the lower end of the 80 m band as you do on some of the CB channels. I remember talking to lots of nice folks , men, ladies and kids, on the CB. I guess it is just human nature to fee "superior" to others, for what ever the imagined reason is.



I enjoy ham radio and I also am a enthusiastic people watcher, so I also enjoy listening to others too.



I suppose in some folks minds I am an oldd CBer bum and will never change, and some folks think of me as a pretty nice fellos and still others know me as " that fan dipole" guy. Each to his or her own.



Or like the muppets said in muppets take manhatten, "peoples is peoples" ... so I try to find good in everyone.

73 and gud DX
 
RE: For Me, Radio = Friends  
by W9ZXT on May 2, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Max, GREAT article, I really liked it and can relate to it. I also grew up in that same time period. Don't worry about the negative comments by some. If you look around a bit at most of the E-Ham articles you will see alot of the same folks posting time after time with negative attitudes. Ignore them, they talk like they know everything and have done everything. Funny thing is, if they are such seasoned and excellent operators, a reasonable person would assume that they would spend most of their time ON THE AIR instead of posting hatred here on the internet. Maybe if they have spare time and like E-HAM, CONTRIBUTE SOMETHING POSITIVE!! GREAT article Max!! BEST 73 ES God Bless!!

Nick
W9ZXT
 
RE: For Me, Radio = Friends  
by K5FH on May 2, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Vito is being a bit over-the-top, as usual, but he does have a point about the CB influence in Amateur Radio.

CB (Citizens Radio Service) was never intended as a "hobby." It was designed as a short-range personal and business communications service. In the beginning there were restrictions on working skip (150 miles maximum), time limits on transmissions (5 minutes on, 5 minutes off), antenna height limits (20 ft. above supporting structure), power limits (5 watts input to the final amplifier, maximum) and so forth. Of course, about 99% of all CBers ignored most or all of these restrictions. The FCC would only enforce the rules in really egregious cases, which meant that 99.9% of all violations occurred with impunity. Kind of like some on 75M and 20M today, but that's another story...

CB was never intended to be a hobby, either legally or in principle. But eventually the FCC threw up their hands and essentially declared "anything goes" on 11M. The problem is, many 11M types who became hams brought their 11M culture to the ham bands. Most of them lose their 11M ways after a while but far too many do not - and that's what Vito is complaining about.
 
RE: For Me, Radio = Friends  
by KI4HOZ on May 2, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
W6TH says he knows them because he was told about them. I am also an old cb'er and like many others it led to ham radio. I started out when my ex-wife bought me a radio where she worked when we were dating. 40 channel ssb mobile. I turned it on and all I heard was static and foul language. Then I turned to ssb and a whole world opened up. I knew what cb's were but had never heard of ssb until then. Polite people who were willing to help anyone who needed it and most of the sidebanders on 11 meters were ham operators who had gotten tired of the snobs on the amatuer bands. These are the people who peaked my interest in ham radio and I am thankful. I admit that I am a no code general but I am not an appliance operator. I build my own antennas and homebrew alot of my own projects. The only reason I do not have code is because I came into the hobby as it was being phased out and I am a sidebander at heart. I am going to get the code as time allows, 12 hours a day at work and a family that takes priority over all.
W6TH knows them because they used to be cb'ers well I know him because he is like all other know it all snobs I have ever met. Too narrow minded to accept new ideas or new technology. But I will almost bet that he drives a newer model luxury vehicle with all the bells and whistles he could get.
W6TH don't judge everyone because of thier start, did you start out on top in your career? Probably not.
 
RE: For Me, Radio = Friends  
by KI4HOZ on May 2, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Also I never operated illegally on cb. I could talk where I wanted to with 12 watts pep on ssb.
 
For Me, Radio = Friends  
by KC0TAS on May 2, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Max,

Your article also woke my memory. I never had a chance to get into CB... no one in the family had one. However, I did get into radio in a big way -- ARMY signal Corps as a Radio Teletype Operator (31C). what wonderful recievers they made!! Heavy and big. The Army then sent me back to school for CW. Had to copy at 15 wpm to graduate the course. I don't remember what I graduated at but I could always send faster than I could recieve. After that I was sent to Italy and used the CW everyday. I also had an NCO who was a HAM, NR9A. We used to sit and watch the news come across from the USA to the USSR (way back then). Looked intresting, but I never really gave it much thought.

Fast Forward many years, still in the Army, While in another Army Course. A good friend, N2OBM called and told me that I would be going to North Carolina for the weekend and that I was to study the novice test/book. Well I took it and passed. What a blast! Went to IRAQ and had some brand new ger sent to me -- operated HF over there and had a blast!!!

Came home and upgraded to General WITH code. But I dont use code. I prefer SSB. Took another year but I managed to upgrade to Extra.

If not for my friends showing and pulling me in I would never have been involved with the greatest hobby that I know.

Max -- ignore W6TH and the other flamers. You know what you know and they don't!!

Joe
NJ0E
(ex-KC0TAS)
 
RE: For Me, Radio = Friends  
by W6TH on May 2, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
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KI4HOZ
most of the sidebanders on 11 meters were ham operators who had gotten tired of the snobs on the amatuer bands.

Guess it was ok with you and the rest to run your ham rigs on the citizens band, huh?

You can't change and will take a life time to do so, that is, to become a real ham.

.:
 
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by WB4LFC on May 2, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
I've have simular experiences.My Dad started CB in the mid sixties when I was a teenager.I can remember helping him and his friends put up antennas.The first rigs he had were Eico Kits that we put togetther.
I had to put civilian radio down for a while.I went on to be an "RTO" in the infrantry in Vietnam. I volunteered to do it the whole year I was over there because I liked talking on the radio.After the army ,getting married ,college and having kids I found myself working for a man that had an Extra Class license.He told me about the technician class license being the quickest way on the air.I took my test and while I was waiting on the test results I built a Heathkit HW-202 plus power supply.That was in 1975.
I have put radio aside several times over the years but I keep finding myself coming back to it.
Radio and the people I've met through radio have been life long friends.Now that I'm retired I am enjoying it more.
 
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by VE3FMC on May 2, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
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by W6TH on May 2, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
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KD5SFK on May 2, 2008
W6TH,

No kidding!?

KD5SFK


No kidding, as the cb was called the citizens band. Your dad helped to ruin the future of ham radio as what is also happening today with the carry over of cb'ers to ham radio. All you new comers do to ham radio is yak your big mouths off and not one sign of being a ham radio operator.

Once a cb'er always a cb'er things will not change and ham radio will be a certificate hunters club and nothing more.

SHAME SHAME, SHAME on you CB'ers. You are a disgrace to humanity.



Surely you jest? Why is it that some "OLD TIMERS" like yourself think Cb'ers who moved into Ham Radio have ruined the hobby?

I'd love to hear your explanation.

My Father started off on 11 Meters and became an Amateur and I can assure you he did not bring bad habits to Amateur Radio. He never had any bad habits on 11 Meters.

I was the same, started off on 11 Meters, moved to Amateur. Bad habits? Hardly. I consider myself to be a very good Amateur Radio operator. Yes I learned CW in order to obtain my ticket. I also know at least 5 other ex 11 meter people who have become Hams and all of them are great ops.

I can guarantee you that there are many ex 11 meter operators who are now Amateurs and they have not ruined Amateur Radio.

What hurts the hobby is people who are so old fashioned in their way of thinking how the hobby should be. The code has been dropped. Get over it. CW does not make anyone a "Better Amateur" It makes them a better CW operator. Nothing more, nothing less.
 
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by W5BXE on May 2, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
ENOUGH! Time to move on.

 
RE: For Me, Radio = Friends  
by KI4WGI on May 2, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
It's funny how CB is a "entry" for many HAMs, including myself, except for me in a different way. Yes, some of my friends (parents of them, that is) had CB base stations back in the early to mid 70's. And sometimes I would visit one and talk to people (I remember one of the ladies we spoke to had a 6 channel rig). None of them had anything illegal.

My personal experience with CB radio was a bit different than most. I took electronics in highschool (4 out of the 8 peroids daily) and used the Robert Shrader text (2d edition, if anyone is interested!). At any rate, in 10th grade a bunch of us got the day off from school to take our 3d class commercial exam. The next year I took and passed my 2d class). In my senior year I was able to get a co-op job repairing CB & car stereos (also installing). I was also a SWL'er with a Heathkit GR-64 I bought with paper route cash, and would also listen to the local repeater with a portable Air Band type radio.

The guy I worked for rode the CB craze and had a decent shop. I often was on the air checking CB's after repairs and got to speak to may fine & decent people. Many would stop by our shop to chat. One older, retired guy often brought us cokes. He eventually found me a DX-150A shortwave that I took around the world with me when I joined the USAF (where I maintained radar jamming systems of all things!)

The irony is if I slip into 10 codes it's because I worked public safety (Virginia State Police) for 7 years maintaining their communication systems. Carried 3 100-watt VHF radios, once calling Salem Va dispatch from Richmond. Sometimes I would use my IFR to listen to SW or my Rycom to listen to AM radio at mountian top sites. Could say I got my radio fix back then.

Now I work as an manufacturing engineer. Though I am considered our companies electronics guru, I mostly do project management & mechanical design. So when the FCC dropped the code requirement I jumped at the chance...became a no-code General. Now I'm anxious to receive my "warbler" I just ordered.

For those who say I could of passed a 5 WPM code exam and a least got technician- I agree. And I do regret not learning code back then, but that is my loss. However, I do plan to learn as some of the cool homebrew projects are simple CW transceivers.

Long post- but my early CB experience wasn't that bad. And I don't seem to be harmed in any way.

73's
Steve
KI4WGI
 
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by WA8FOZ on May 2, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Max:

Thank you for a delightful story. We have come to this sublime hobby by many paths.

I am 59 years old and have been a ham for 46 years. I got my start from listening to my father's Philco table radio. It had 2 shortwave bands, and could receive 160 - 20 meters. At first the SW broadcast stations caught my attention; then I heard the folks who talked to each other. During the 1959-1960 sunspot peak, I could hear the world from my bedroom. The rest is history. I have a full life with a demanding career, a family, community activities, and all that. But ham radio is a big part of my way of life, and it has rewarded me with magic and friends. The Philco has been rehabbed and sits on my shelf.

I suspect that ham radio will be as rich for you as it has been for me. The nature of the hobby allows it to accomodate some very sad, atribilious old fools who cannot see the world beyond their own stereotypies. Most of them are not malicious; instead, they fail to appreciate the emotional (or political) consequences of their rants because of their blind spots. In any case, though they thrive on the internet, they do NOT represent the mainstream of decent folks in ham radio. Enjoy the magic and the friendship!
73, Bill
 
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by W9ZXT on May 2, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Hey Max, just wanted to add to my previous post. Back in the CB days we had an old FT-101E and FT-101EX. They both had 11 MTRS and boy did we have a ball with them. My dad didn't care about rules back then and neither did I, we just had fun. My dad had D-104 Mics, to this day that is all I use on SSB. My dad did not want anything to do with Amateur Radio or Morse Code. I did and I work alot of CW. Folks back then to me were a lot less uptight. It's not back then now though, so anyone reading this and think anything bad about OLD CBER'S, please go out to your towers with one foot on the concrete base and one foot on the grass and Kiss My ASS!!
Sorry about that guys, hope that didn't offend anyone. Sometimes folks don't really know how to take my comments and get upset. That's OK, they can Kiss My ASS!! Be yourself, get on the air, and be nice. All of you that comment here on this forum with negative comments, can Kiss, well you know. GREAT Article MAX!!
Best 73 ES God Bless!! Nick W9ZXT
 
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by N3KBS on May 2, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
To me it is the old timers that have ruined the "hobby". When I was first licensed I heard more comments and rudeness from the long licensed folk than I would have ever expected. So many made it clear they wished I would go away. I really fell out of the hobby for a few years. I remember listening to all the foul mouthed garbage on HF and then finding it on VHF from these well seasoned experts. Things change. Deal with it. We no longer have to crank our engines in the car over by hand. If you want to, go ahead, I wont mind. But I am no less of a ham because I only reached 5 WPM. I have not used it yet anyway! But I think it is great for those who love it. Ease up and get some fiber or something. Perhaps try to help some folks instead of being so mean all the time. Not everyone was born with a silver morse code key in their hand. Enough said!
 
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by W6TH on May 2, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
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Here is the answer for many of you cb'ers.

W9ZXT on May 2, 2008
Hey Max, just wanted to add to my previous post. Back in the CB days we had an old FT-101E and FT-101EX. They both had 11 MTRS and boy did we have a ball with them. My dad didn't care about rules back then and neither did I, we just had fun.

My dad didn't care about rules back then and neither did I, we just had fun.

I guess you cb'ers and ex cb'ers get the message. What more can I say?

Without the morse code, it is the same as cb.

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by QRZDXR2 on May 3, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
W9ZXT on May 2, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Hey Max, just wanted to add to my previous post. Back in the CB days we had an old FT-101E and FT-101EX. They both had 11 MTRS and boy did we have a ball with them. My dad didn't care about rules back then and neither did I, we just had fun.

It's not back then now though, so anyone reading this and think anything bad about OLD CBER'S, please go out to your towers with one foot on the concrete base and one foot on the grass and Kiss My ASS!!
Sorry about that guys, hope that didn't offend anyone. Sometimes folks don't really know how to take my comments and get upset. That's OK, they can Kiss My ASS!! Be yourself, get on the air, and be nice. All of you that comment here on this forum with negative comments, can Kiss, well you know.

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wow, spoken like a true CB'r

And they say ex CB'rs don't bring their rap with 'em.
Vito they prove you right even thought they say your wrong. (most new hams are in self denial about why they are hams--supermen of society no doubt)

Here is a perfict example of what we hear on the ham bands today. No wonder kids don't like ham radio with attitudes and verbal comments like above. I know I would not let my son or daughter even own a VHF/UHF radio because the new hams have gotten out of control, like the gent from above, who seems stuck on kissing.


In days gone by we used CB for the Airstream club groups to travel down the road with. In days gone by their were REACT CB clubs that were society frendly and provided a nice club. Many would hit the roadside rest areas in the summer time hollidays to provide coffee and what nots for the traveling motorist. Most of the RV, AS, SAM clubs left still do use some form of CB these days. (most of the clubs though have gone the way of the dust too) Like ham radio the RV industry has really undergone a deminishing change too. (I don't even think their is a CB REACT anymore. When CB had people kissing on the air, like the gent above who doesn't care, I think they too pulled up and went away)

We also used to check into the WBCCI radio group. The last time I heard anyone on it was 15 years ago.

Lots of good memories and good friends were made going to group camp-in's. Used to be lots of ham radio as well as CB activity going down the road and while in camp.

Notice I said lots of memories and USED to be.

Today, that is pretty much like a professional ham radio operator. Gone.
 
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by KI6JUU on May 3, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Thanks Max for an interesting article. I find the comments regarding CBers and "no-code Hams" by the "Old-timers" interesting and somewhat humerous...I worked in Public Safety and Public Service radio communications for many years and heard the same comments made by commercial ticket holders about Hams and when the FCC did away with the 1st and 2nd class Radiotelephone operators, it was if the end of the world was on its way. "Ham-Shack technology" was the worst comment you accuse a co-worker of.
 
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by W6TH on May 3, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
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KI6JUU on May 3, 2008
Thanks Max for an interesting article.

Interesting? Yes, to prove that max his farther had little respect for the rules and regulations of the operation of the citizens band.

It has been said for many years; Someone shook the tree and all the nuts fell into California.

Now, do you find this of more interest?

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by K1CJS on May 3, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
By W6TH:

"No kidding, as the cb was called the citizens band. Your dad helped to ruin the future of ham radio as what is also happening today with the carry over of cb'ers to ham radio. All you new comers do to ham radio is yak your big mouths off and not one sign of being a ham radio operator.

Once a cb'er always a cb'er things will not change and ham radio will be a certificate hunters club and nothing more.

SHAME SHAME, SHAME on you CB'ers. You are a disgrace to humanity."

You just love to make friends wherever you go, don't you Vito.

With your continuing disparaging comments about just about everybody, it will be said you are both a disgrace and an embarrassment to Amateur radio.

 
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by K1CJS on May 3, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
"Vito is being a bit over-the-top, as usual, but he does have a point about the CB influence in Amateur Radio."

His point is a skewed view of it. Yes, in the beginning CB was intended as a short range personal communications service. Businesses were tolerated if the only thing they could afford was CB, but it was intended more for personal uses. Personal uses including kids 100 mw walkie-talkies and pop calling mom to talk on the way home from work. So, personal uses included hobby use.

The real point here is that CB was the start for a great many hams, hams who today are some of the better and more tolerant of the amateur radio operators, unlike some of the die hard hams that have forty or fifty years under their belts, yet still can't resist putting down others who have joined the ham ranks from other communications venues.

A long time ago one of the long time hams made their intents very clear. He wrote on this very forum that he would rather see ham radio die off than be taken up by CBers and transplants from other places.
 
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by WA1RNE on May 3, 2008 Mail this to a friend!

Back in the 60's and 70's, CB was a good way to catch the radio "bug". If you were truly "bitten" as I was, you wanted more than the ability to communicate around town.

The CB Boom of the 60's and 70's was natural given the advances in technology at that time. Transistors were becoming cheaper to manufacture and were rapidly replacing tubes in consumer electronics. The introduction of cheap low power walkie-talkies from Japan became a bit of a novelty for kids which is where I started. From a 100mw "cheapie" I graduated to Midland 1 watter and with some extra height was able to get out beyond the neighborhood.

That 1 watter was a turning point because my first contact was about 1.5 miles away with a guy who I became friends with, who had also been bitten by the same bug and who would eventually become Amateur Extra, WA1ROG. Although now SK, Sal bacame an excellent CW operator who could copy and send 30 WPM with ease.

In addition to helping spawn an interest in ham radio (SWLing also helped) I made several friends through CB, some of which helped me obtain one of my first real jobs in the high tech industry just after high school.


Sure, there are folks who have had negative associations with some CB'ers, but that certainly wasn't the rule. If you chose to hang around channel 19 and jaw back and forth with truckers, run high power and cause a lot of mischief, that might explain your bad attitude toward the service.

Like many other hams, I chose to use it as a stepping stone, getting my first exposure to 2 way communications. Putting a Second Class Citizen moniker on all CB'ers is unfair and may even be considered a tad paranoid.


....WA1RNE
 
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by W2BSA on May 3, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Vito and the others who do nothing but bad mouth others, YOU are the prime reason folks don't get into ham radio. The people I associate with are top notch. Some started out on the Citizens Band and others came directly into ham radio. I did a little bit of CB when I was a kid. Then in 1993 I studied and got into ham radio. I got reintroduced to radio via Scouting and am now heavily involved in both.
Vito and the other bad mouthers you would be wise to heed these words; If you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all.
 
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by W2BSA on May 3, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Oh yes. I am remiss in not complementing Max in my last post. Max, this was an outstanding article. I enjoyed reading it and remembering the good memories I have had because of ham radio and the people I have had the privilege of meeting.
 
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by ARRLBOOSTER on May 3, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
To "Vito" W6TH
Don't be such a hater. This is a story about friendship, be nice and you too could learn how to make friends and leave your mafia hit man career behind...
Rick
 
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by W6TH on May 3, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
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K1CJS

You have a lot to say as an cb'er and also tell all here how you became a general class without taking the code and the theory testing. You are one fake if I have ever heard of one.

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by W6TH on May 3, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
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W2BSA

This is an vanity call, is it not? Another dumbed down cb'er that waited till all was free.

All cb'ers as you noticed have been tied up with families, college and no time to become a ham operator, only time they had on hand was when the testing was dumbed down or given to them gratis, such as no-code and simple question that a 7 year old can pass.

Don't all you freebanders feel great to compete with a 7 year old child to acquire a ham call.

The first 50,000 hams, before 1940, were the real hams and all of you after the year of 1950 are clones of ham radio.

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by W6TH on May 3, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
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ARRLBOOSTER on May 3, 2008

To "Vito" W6TH
Don't be such a hater. This is a story about friendship, be nice and you too could learn how to make friends and leave your mafia hit man career behind...

Rick

What a abnormal person would say to show such ignorance and style characteristic of the social elite: fashioned in a childish manner.

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by N6NKN on May 3, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Keep in mind that for every "Vito" there are 10 like AC6V, SK or W4RNL, SK. May they rest in peace.
 
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by W6TH on May 3, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
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N6NKN

Another nut sicko that fell in California. Goly gee, the Eham is full of them. Fun to bring out the good in mankind.

For Me, Radio = Friends, for you Richard, an advanced treatment for vaginal cancer.

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by KG6AF on May 3, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Excellent article, Max.
 
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by KI6JUU on May 3, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Tell us, Vito; exactly what is it in your background that entitles you to be so crtical?
 
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by W5EAC on May 3, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
W6TH: Being a might bit harsh, don't you think, OM? Seems you may have some anger issues which could use some help.

Disclaimer: I am not a medical professional, and I do not prescribe medical care. However, the everyday Joe Ham may well conclude what I have here.

I pray life improves for you, and that you don't feel so much animosity toward your fellow man. 73
 
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by N7YA on May 3, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
"Tell us, Vito; exactly what is it in your background that entitles you to be so crtical?"

...he has a computer.
 
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by W4KVW on May 3, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
W6TH must be NOT have a friend in the world.MOST I'm sure are DEAD if he has EVER had any at his age(86). I'm sure he will straighten GOD out one day soon also on all of his MISTAKES as well as things that he thinks GOD "SHOULD" have done differently(like NOT letting a man invent a CB to RUIN ham radio)since it appears Vito has ALWAYS been "PERFECT" in his lifetime I'm sure he will get GOD on the RIGHT path in no time at all.Getting OLD "ALONE" must have made him VERY bitter so let's give him a break.I know they use that term on CB as well but give him one anyway! }:>) He sure needs something but maybe GOD will have MERCY on him & take away the bitterness before he dies with it in his heart all ALONE!

Clayton
W4KVW
 
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by W6TH on May 3, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
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N7YA on May 3, 2008
"Tell us, Vito; exactly what is it in your background that entitles you to be so crtical?"

You spelled critical wrong for one thing.

Are you a detective that I am to be questioned?


I am a man and I came here to serve man. What did you come here for, to aggravate, to make more troublesome, or anger and provoke people?


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by W6TH on May 3, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
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W4KVW

Don't forget to vote for Hilary Rodham Clinton, she can represent your God.

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by W6TH on May 3, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
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W4KVW

Oh! I am fond of your vanity call Clayton. Congratulations and happy to see you upgraded from cb to a general class, so quickly.

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by W6TH on May 3, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
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Time to stop and get downstairs and enjoy my dinner.

73, y'all, W6TH, GL.

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by N7YA on May 3, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
"N7YA on May 3, 2008
"Tell us, Vito; exactly what is it in your background that entitles you to be so crtical?"

Vito, i guess you are NOT a detective...if you look back up, you will notice that i simply answered the original question...i simply told him you have a computer (much to the dismay of the rest of us).

I have to say, i like the medicated Vito much better, the unmedicated Vito is the one that got himself kicked off of QRZ. Eham wont because they dont have anyone to do the kicking off, this is just a ham radio related ad clicker, unfortunately.

Oh well, you and i have gone round and round before and it wasnt as thrilling as you seem to find it...i really have to go to work now so i will leave you to your fan following. Enjoy.

73...Adam, N7YA
 
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by W9ZXT on May 3, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Here is the answer for many of you cb'ers.

W9ZXT on May 2, 2008
Hey Max, just wanted to add to my previous post. Back in the CB days we had an old FT-101E and FT-101EX. They both had 11 MTRS and boy did we have a ball with them. My dad didn't care about rules back then and neither did I, we just had fun.

My dad didn't care about rules back then and neither did I, we just had fun.

I guess you cb'ers and ex cb'ers get the message. What more can I say?

Without the morse code, it is the same as cb.
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W6TH you left out most of my post, but I did like what you included about my old 101's and my dad. I will add one thing from my previous post that you left out. KISS MY ASS!!

Nick
W9ZXT


 
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by W6TH on May 3, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
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Oh! P.S. Thanks to all, you made my day.

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by AB7E on May 3, 2008 Mail this to a friend!

It seems to me that debating W6TH, or trying to fathom his rambling pronouncements, is counterproductive. Let's face it ... if any appreciable percentage of active hams were as churlish as he is, or mentally mired in 1940 as he is, none of the rest of us would likely remain in the hobby. Luckily he is pretty much an aberration, albeit a persistent and embarrassing one, and we're probably all better off if we just recognize his postings for what they are ... the verbal drool of a senile old man. Nature will soon address that which good sense has not.
 
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by W6TH on May 3, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
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AB7E

It isn't strange that you pin pointed me and absolutely have forgotten to mention the remarks made by others which were not in the gentleman category.

I now believe you are peeved as to the remark I made of your face, that your tie did not go with your face and your tie looked as though it was used for a leash to monitor and train a dog.

I must add now that you have a face that only a mother could love.

73 David, I will see you around, maybe in the pileups

W6TH.

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by W4KVW on May 3, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
FYI,Vito I vote "ONLY" Republican "MORON"!Now you for sure are AGAIN WRONG & CONFUSED old man! hahahahaha
Go change your Attends the one your wearing is FULL of S... like YOU!

W4KVW
 
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by HAMRAD on May 3, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
I love it when CB comes up. I also was involved in CB back in the early 70's and then again in the 80's. I got my extra in the mid 80's and I don't think my involvement in CB's has lead to any kind of mental problems there good buddy! What i find amusing is alot of the hams running around with there orange vests and badges like Barney Fife. Emergency this and emergency that. Good greif their as bad as the worst CB ops. Anyway, its JUST A HOBBY! Enjoy it for what it is and do what makes you happy, Life is short!
 
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by ICR71A on May 3, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Hey everybody, leave Vito alone. He is a bitter, lonely old man who probably gets little attention aside from spewing his bile here. Soon he will die and we will be shut of him--but there are many more like him to take his place. But we will still be able to fondly recall "Remember Vito the Geriatric Troll?"
 
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by K6YE on May 3, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Max,

Great article.

I started out as a ham in the early 60's and enjoy the hobby today as much as when I first started.

My father started out on CB in the late 60's and seemed to enjoy it. In the 90's he had three strokes which rendered his left side 80% paralyzed. He called me after rehabilitation and expressed interest in becoming a ham. We sent him some books and got him hookee up with some hams there in Waco, Texas. Soon he was sporting KD5JZE. He studied very hard and opted not to take a pass on the 13 WPM code test. He passed the test after many months of instruction and his ft-irst desire was to rid himself of his awful call. I helped him apply for his vanity call, K5LDH (his initials), and he was elated when it was granted.

I have heard a lot of comments about my father and with the exception of taliking alot, no negative comments have surfaced.

He was a ham for seven (7) years before becoming an SK in January 2006 (Pancreatic cancer). I really enjoyed talking with him on 20 and 40 meters, working on his station, and assisting him in equipment selection. He never looked back at CB but enjoyed it during the years that he was active.

I was so devastated at his death that I went off the air for six months. It was a year before I could manage to unpack his equipment and put it to use. This year I will cancel his call sign. I really miss my father for reasons other than ham radio but ham radio tied us together just that much closer.

I am sure there are other persons that made the change to ham radio and are assets to the hobby.

Enjoy the hobby and be an asset.

"Your true character is revealed by the clarity of your convictions, the choices you make and the promises you keep. Hold strongly to your principles and refuse to follow the currents of convenience.
What you say and do defines who you are, and you are forever."

Semper Fi,

Tommy - K6YE
DX IS
 
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by W9JR on May 3, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
I, too, was a CB radio operator. When its designation changed from Citizens Band to Children's Band --- I sold my CB rigs.

You know, I have a slogan posted in my radio shack. It reads:

"It's not the class of license the radio operator holds --- it's the class of the radio operator who holds the license"

Insert CB or Amateur in front of the word "radio". It fits all of us.
 
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by K1CJS on May 3, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
W9RJ said:

>>"It's not the class of license the radio operator holds --- it's the class of the radio operator who holds the license"

Insert CB or Amateur in front of the word "radio". It fits all of us.<<

Truer words were never spoken. Thanks for the reminder.
 
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by N6AJR on May 3, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
well, I wish Vito well, I would hate to think he goes through life all day , every day, with that sad of an attitude on life.



Vito my friend, I respect thet fact you may be older, and perhaps better on cw than me, but my goodness man, try to find a smile in your day somewhere. Life is too short to be that angry .



And to all of the rest , I agree, You could do a whole lot worse than being a Ham radio operator. It matters not weather you were a cb'er or not. What does matter is how we conduct ourselves day to day.



I am proud to be know as a fellow ham to most of the folks I have spoken with .
 
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by W4KVW on May 3, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Forget Vito,he's jst an OLD FART with just his computer,a 2 meter rig,& 23 channel CB listening to channel 19 on his Antron 99.Got to go & take a Vito right now & wipe real good so I don't leave none of his kind on my butt!

W4KVW
 
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by QRZDXR2 on May 3, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
K1CJS

unlike some of the die hard hams that have forty or fifty years under their belts, yet still can't resist putting down others who have joined the ham ranks from other communications venues.


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Are you speaking for others on this matter or just yourself? I have 42 yeas under my belt and resent that comment you made. Most hams at 50 years have died.

CB was a lot of fun back then. I remember it being part of the orginal ham band. Then the whin-n was that the hams had to give it up to make room for them -- other guys.

Later it was found to be draining away from the potential ham core. The way it was used by the DX'rs again it was put down not because of the people but because back then the 10 meter ham band was in and those 11 meter people were not playing fair. Even the ARRL was trying to get into the CB band control.

The FCC told the hams that it was a training ground for future hams who would want to advance into higher technology. We all know what happened

I have to admit that the CB clubs were gaining ground on the old ham clubs. (ARRL didn't like that and had the FCC step up its enforcement actions to no avail. The simple masses of CB'rs overwhelmed the FCC. Some hams noted this and so started the 40 meter wars and dirty mouth UHF/VHF. Back in the CB-- The youth of then were out talking on walkie talkies. EF Johnson made even a hand held CB radio (tubes were in back then and solid state was the future of 6 transistor radios made in Japan that looked like packs of cig's) It was fun to make up your own call and talk to your buddy parked in another car at the hill (back then on a date you went to park at the overlook with your girlfriend to watch the snipe races-- and while wating .. well the rest is history in the back seat.

CB was a wild group. boaters, campers and kids still today use it. Truckers seem to have orginized it into a road information watch-- if nothing else but for smokies. (road games)

All this was before cell phones and computers. Today
well we know what is happening. CB has a hard time talking down the street because of the bands. While hams are able to change to different frequencies that are more useable.

Do most hams hate the person of the CB'r or the use of the band? I think eventually the 11 meter band will be merged back into the ham bands. As someone already said-- it will all then be called HOBBY BANDS. Which it really is today already. Most hams are just in self denial and go kicking n screaming, whining and moaning about how change is bad.

Look on the bright side. The ARRL will have a means to sell more junk. I predict that they too will one day become part of history and close their doors once the FCC drops the testing requirement for a Hobby Band license. Oh ya and the people saying that the ham is getting more high tech-- are only kidding themselves.

Go ahead and ask 10 hams which end of the diode conducts. Bet you get everything from --what is a diode to "does it conduct what?" For extra credit show them a resistor, a diode and a small tublar cap and have them pick out the diode. I did this little experiment at our ham club. 3 out of 4 old hams got it right. 1 out of 10 new hams got it right--and I think he guessed. If you really want to blow their minds ask 'em what the black band is for.

Try not to laugh.



 
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by QRZDXR2 on May 3, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
N7YA on May 3, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
"Tell us, Vito; exactly what is it in your background that entitles you to be so crtical?"

...he has a computer.

_________________________________________________

All right-- enough

N7YA how come you have so many other call signs?

Play nice now....
 
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by ARRLBOOSTER on May 3, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
W6TH= Wino 6(or sick) Tiny Hitler.

Vito Corleone, you are a infected boil on Rosey O'Donnel's buttinski.

Now unplug your windows 95 OS'd system and give your boyfriend a big hug :)


 
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