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Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'

H. P. Friedrichs (AC7ZL) on August 20, 2008
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Introduction

The control room was a scene of choreographed chaos. Lamps flashed, switches were thrown, checklists were consulted and authentication codes were confirmed. As the second hand on the wall clock inched forward, the operators, each at their respective stations, turned a key.

A Titan II missile, perched within the adjacent silo, stirred as batteries were energized and relays closed. Inside, pumps and a maze of tubing sprang to life, bringing hydrazine and nitrogen tetroxide into contact. The chemicals spontaneously ignited, a thunderous roar filled the air and angry clouds of exhaust and steam jetted from the open silo as though from the mouth of a volcano. The missile, serial number 98-31772-5B rose, slowly at first, and then rapidly gained speed, ascending until it had diminished to a point of light high in the sky. Minutes later, the missile descended, delivering its 9 megaton nuclear warhead to a hardened target somewhere in the Soviet Union.

Or so it might have been. Luckily, for the sake of all of humanity, cooler heads have prevailed, so the scenario above never actually played out. In fact, in the early 1980s, President Ronald Reagan ordered the deactivation of the 54 operational Titan missile sites. Eventually, the missiles were removed and all of the silos were dismantled and destroyed -- except for one.

The Titan Missile Museum

Base 571-7, located about 12 miles south of Tucson, Arizona, has become a National Historic Landmark. Now operated by the nonprofit Arizona Aerospace Foundation, the site has been reborn as the Titan Missile Museum. There, for the price of a ticket, one can step back into time and experience the front line of the cold war in a very tangible and personal way.

Above ground, there are some interesting exhibits, including various support vehicles, a helicopter and several examples of rocket engines. One can also examine the 700 ton reinforced concrete silo lid -- now permanently cast in a half-open position.

A Man-made Cavern

Below ground, one can traverse tunnels and various chambers including the command and control room. Huge steel springs suspend these compartments from the surrounding rock, allowing them to shake and rattle in the event that the site itself became the target of an enemy attack. In the control room, the launch electronics are still functional. The tail of a punched paper tape dangles casually from its spool in a rack-mounted tape reader. That tape still contains targeting information. It holds the secret as to where the warhead would have landed and who among our enemies would have suffered complete annihilation.

Nearby is the launch silo, and within it, a Titan II missile. This particular rocket is a training vehicle and has never actually been fueled -- a good thing as the propellants are both highly toxic and corrosive. Just the same, access holes have been cut into the missile to verify that it is no longer in launch-capable condition. Needless to say, the reentry vehicle at the top of the rocket is empty. There is no warhead to worry about.

Discone Fever

A visit to the Titan Missile Museum is a worthwhile trip for anyone with an interest in rockets, science or history. Most of the hams I know fall into one or more of these categories. Yet, there is an additional attraction to anyone interested in radio, in particular those with a valid ham license.

In the early 1960s, as part of the installation of the Base 571-7, the Collins Radio Company erected an absolutely beautiful discone antenna at the missile site. Discones are broadband antennas -- they are capable of radiating signals over a wide range of frequencies. The lowest usable frequency on a discone is established by the physical dimensions of the antenna. This particular antenna is something on the order of 80 feet tall, with an enormous crown, which means it will radiate effectively over a large portion of the HF spectrum.

The Infection

In prior years, I had toured and enjoyed the Titan Missile Museum at least twice. It was only recently, however, that I learned that the general public can sign up for, and request the use of this antenna. The Green Valley Amateur Radio Club (GVARC) has a Web page with comments about the discone and directions for requesting its use. I decided that this was something I had to tinker with. You might say that I had contracted a case of, well, "discone fever."

Cold War QRP

For this adventure, I brought along my Yaesu FT-817. The 817 is a fine multi-mode 5 W transceiver that works well either from an internal battery pack or external power. I opted to run the rig from a cigarette lighter jack in my vehicle. The Yaesu is a fairly expensive piece of equipment, so to avoid blowing it up in a moment of confusion, I built a gizmo I call the "Oh-Shoot!" box. (As you may well imagine, the name was inspired by a more descriptive phrase, which is not, however, suitable for use in good company.) The "Oh-shoot" allows me to connect an external power source to my FT-817. The Oh-shoot is fused, both high-side and ground, has reverse polarity protection and an overvoltage crowbar. It also has a set of diagnostic LEDs that allow me to verify proper voltage and polarity before the on-switch is thrown.

With my 817, I normally carry an LDG-Z100 tuner. GVARCs Web page says that the discone will tune from 6 to 30 MHz with an SWR less than 2:1, but I figured the tuner would be nice to trim things up as needed. I have used the Z100 and FT-817 to drive every conceivable makeshift antenna and I've found that I can match to just about anything but a wet noodle.

I enjoy operating CW, but I thought some PSK31 might be fun, too. Thus, I brought my laptop and a Signalink SL1+ PSK interface.

The museum's discone is erected behind a security fence, so you can't actually walk up to it and touch it. Electrical access is provided by a UHF connector housed inside a metal junction box just to the south of the antenna. As it turns out, someone was courteous enough to include a length of coax to link the box to my radio gear. I was prepared, however. I brought and used my own cable.

  

Securing permission to use the antenna is easy. I walked into the museum and asked to use it. I showed my driver's license, a copy of my ham license and I was asked to sign a guest log. That's it.

Hooking Up

I backed my vehicle up to the junction box, opened my tailgate, hooked up my equipment and set up a lawn chair. I began working stations around 1932 UTC and finished about 4 hours later. Some of the contacts I made were CW, some were PSK31. In some cases I lost folks in fading or noise, in some cases they lost me. Nonetheless, I was astounded at how far my tiny signal projected.

From my position in southern Arizona, on the 20 meter band using low power CW, I exchanged information with operators in New York, Pennsylvania, Florida and Texas. I tried the 40 meter band and was able to contact California. Using low power PSK31 on the 20 meter band, I reached out and "touched" Massachusetts, California, Washington, Oregon, South Carolina and Kansas. I would love the opportunity to run this antenna at night, or in the future when the solar cycle has progressed and band conditions have improved.

  

I am very grateful for having had the opportunity to work with this antenna and experience, on a firsthand basis, one small aspect of our cold war history. I would urge all of my fellow hams to share in this experience. You can find more information about the Titan missiles at Wikipedia and through SiloWorld.

 

(This article originally appeared in the ARRL's Feature Articles Section, April 22, 2008

 

Document Revision 1, 08/01/08

 

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Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by KC5HMC on August 20, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
The Titan Missile Museum is on my to do list. I ran into that web site a while back and found it very interesting. Where else can you work DX and check out a Titan Missile Silo?
 
RE: Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by W8ATA on August 20, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Thanks for this great article. My son and his family live just a few miles north of the museum so it will be on my list of places to go on my fall trip to Arizona. On the other hand, my daughter and her family literally live in the missle silo fields of North Dakota. Many of those silos are still active, but all one can see is a fenced in area with a concrete pad, some vent pipes, an antenna, and an occasional helicopter facilitating crew changes. America hasn't dropped its guard. Closer to home, the now privitized (Boeing operated) Newark, Ohio Air Force Station repairs and calibrates the guidance systems for these missles. This facility has brought many very talented hams to our community. Maybe I'll see you on the bands from the desert of Arizona.

73,
Russ
 
RE: Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by NV2A on August 20, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
thanks for the info on the museum and antenna setup. If I'm ever out that way I'll have to hook up to it and see how it shakes out!

 
Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by N8DV on August 20, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
An excellent article. In 1988 while in Minot North Dakota, I had a chance to visit the training facility for the Minute Man missileers at Minot AFB. I am here to tell you that it was an awesome, one hour tour. Unfortunately, no camera were allowed at the time. What a display of America's might. I am going to put this as a must see on my travel list. Thanks again.
 
Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by KD5SFK on August 20, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Thanks for sharing your experience. BTW, the pictures are excellent and make your article much more interesting.

My folks visited the museum and took the tour a couple years ago at my suggestion. My dad, having spent some time as a child on an air force base in the 50s, thought it was really cool. Of course, the first thing they told me about after their visit was the discone antenna. I'm looking forward to using it when I eventually visit.

KD5SFK
 
RE: Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by K7LRB on August 20, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Fine article on the Titan Missile Museum. I live about a mile from the museum and have visited it a few times. It is a chilling experience and a harsh reminder of how close we came to "mutual destruction". Not sure we have "progressed" much farther than that today!

I and two ham friends used the discone antenna during this past Field Day. We used battery power and operated on the 40 and 20 meter bands, CW and SSB. We made several hundred contacts in about five hours. MUCHO FUN!

At present the museum only allows operation while the museum is open during the daytime but perhaps special permission may be obtained to operate at night. That would be fun also. I too am looking forward to better operating conditions and using the discone again.

Many thanks to the Green Valley Amateur Radio Club for making arrangements for the use of this unique landmark.

73,
de Larry
 
RE: Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by N2EY on August 20, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Do they have a CRM-114 on display?

73 de Jim, N2EY
 
RE: Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by WA8MEA on August 20, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
I just have one comment on this article:

COOL as hell!!!!

Thanks & 73,

Bill - WA8MEA
 
RE: Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by K9MHZ on August 20, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Great pictures!

Brad
K9MHZ
 
RE: Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by KF4HR on August 20, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Nice article. My first thought turned to all the missiles, in other countries, currently pointed at the US. Hopefully cool heads will continue to prevail.

KF4HR
 
RE: Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by W9PMZ on August 20, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
"Do they have a CRM-114 on display? "

Is it locked to OPE?

73,

Carl - W9PMZ
 
Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by KW4CQ on August 20, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Thanks for the very nice article and photos. They sure bring back a lot of memories for me. In 1962 I worked as a TechRep engineer for Stromberg-Carlson/General Dynamics installing and testing their HF SSB communications equipment and the hardened erectable antenna system at the Titan II Missile Silo near Denver Colorado. I can never forget one day while I was there when one of the silo's 70-ton concrete and steel blast doors collapsed back into the silo killing a number of people working there. Fortunately, this happened just prior to the missiles and nuclear warheads being delivered to the site. Does anyone reading this remember that incident?

73 to all,
Bob, KW4CQ
 
RE: Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by N3JBH on August 20, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Awsome Article Many thanks Jeff
 
RE: Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by RADIOROY on August 20, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
I have not been there yet, but will make sure I have a rig to use when I do. Some have actually purchased these silos, and converted them into homes. No heat or cooling needed. Great article and pictures. I greatly enjoyed all of it, and well done. Thanks for sharing your experience with us. 73 de W5ROY Roy Creiglow
 
RE: Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by K5END on August 20, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
GREAT article. thanks.
 
RE: Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by N8NSN on August 20, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
One word... Spectacular !
 
Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by TANAKASAN on August 20, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
In October 1962 I sat on the steps and watched whilst my Father built a brick & concrete fallout shelter in my Grandmother's cellar. I can still remember the look in his eyes and he was damn scared.

The article on the antenna is interesting but I'm glad to see that the missle will never fly.

Tanakasan
 
Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by KB1IIX on August 20, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Best article in a lonnngg time. Great pix.

Bruce
KB1IIX
 
RE: Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by W4RUO on August 20, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Remember the Lowry AFB incedent well. I was working for Glen L. Martin co at the time at the SD site. Lots of memories as I was involved in the testing of missiles in Denver and then in the construction of missile sites for about 6 years. Will have to go and see this one in AZ
 
Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by KB1IIX on August 20, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
I'd like to see more info, plans, etc. for the "Oh Shoot" box...

capvan@comcast.net
 
Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by KC0RBX on August 20, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Boy, does this bring back memories!! I live about 4 miles from WWV, Fort Collins, Colorado. One day, on a whim, I decided to go to the WWV station to check out their rig and antenna system. I then asked if I could use THEIR antenna to make some contacts with my Yaesu FT-857D. I had it and a 1500 watt Tokyo High Power amplifier with me along with several car batteries, some Andrews Hardline and my climbing gear. They, of course, gave me permission to do whatever I needed to get on the air with my gear using their antenna. ALL I can say is, WOW!!! Unbelievable, the contacts I made. I made ten contacts to Timbuktu with one of Obama's brothers using various modes and bands and I don't know how many contacts to the Antarctic!! O.K. I couldn't resist, I'm full of "shoot", ha ha. Your article was a great one and now that I know you can do that, I hope to go down there to do as you did!! Thanks for a good one!! Did I have any of you going?
 
I Remember It Well  
by K7QQH on August 20, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Good article, and it brought back memories of my two tours through the museum about 10 years ago. At that time, I don't believe the antenna was available to operators, but do remember it was an awesome sight.

The underground command/control center tour is superb, and the whole experience DOES bring back memories of a different time, a different mindset.
To all interested in this subject: Be sure to put the museum on your list of visits, and also don't forget the excellent Pima Air and Space Museum in Tucson.

73's

Roger C.
K7QQH
Lynnwood WA

 
Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by WZ1P on August 20, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
The discone is one of my all time favorites. I still have one on the tower. This one however is very BIG!!

Great article and photo's. Thanks!

Dan WZ1P
 
RE: Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by WA9AFM on August 20, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
I'm a former Titan II crewmember (MCCC & DMCCC); the photos of the LCC and silo brought back memories. From time to time, while out at the complex for our standard 30 hour tour of duty, I would put the HF/SSB radio on 20m. The discone played great! The hardened HF antenna (essentially a telescoping vertical) wasn't bad either.
 
Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by N2RRA on August 20, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Very good article!

This is an article that resembles much like my last that I hope continues to inspire more articles of this same format. It becomes a much more worthy read and not a waste of time.

Good job!
73,
N2RRA
 
RE: Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by KG6WOU on August 20, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
I've operated from this antenna before and it's a bit of fun, I managed to get a pile-up and ran it hard for almost an hour. It's worth the visit.

 
RE: Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by KE4MOB on August 20, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Don't bury the past just yet. In the words of the NORAD general in the movie "WarGames":

"We might have to go through this thing after all..."
 
Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by WR8Y on August 20, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
For so many reasons, (the pictures, the well written text, the very interesting history lesson, the on-air aspects of your visit and the hint that the rest of us should go try it ourself...) this is the best article here in a very long time.

73,
Mark
WR8Y
 
Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by N7WS on August 20, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
When these missiles were being deactivated, there was a group of Air Force maintenance personnel at Davis-Monthan AFB here in Tucson that was going to lose their jobs servicing the Titan sites. The AF approached the local junior college and asked the college to offer a course for them that would aid them in moving on.

I did some part-time teaching at the college, as did another friend and co-worker of mine at Hughes Aircraft. He was asked to teach the course and while he was a PhD who had been tenured at the University of Arizona, he didn’t know much about laboratory practice, something that the AF wanted included in the course. So he asked me if I wanted to teach that part, which I agreed to do.

The lab work was done at their facility at the base. I almost immediately noticed that it was their procedure to completely clear the lab benches of equipment, lock it all in cabinets and then sweep and mop the floors at the end of the day. This included locking up the HP frequency counter with its ovenized time-base oscillator.

I gave them a lecture about the fact that the time-base needed to operate continuously and discussed crystal aging, and so forth. Apparently it was going to take permission from on high to do this, but one of the Sergeants said he would try to work it out.

During this discussion one Airmen (air woman actually) said something on the order of, “Oh my gosh!” She went on to relate that one adjustment procedure at the Titan site called for the use of a piece of equipment (not in evidence) but which by description seemed to be some kind of WWVB-disciplined time-base that required several hours of phase comparison before making the adjustment(s). This was of course before GPS.

She said that she figured that was too time consuming so she just loaded the HP counter in the truck, drove from the base to the Titan site, plugged in the counter and tweaked whatever it was that needed tweaking.

I often wondered where these things would have actually gone had we ever had the occasion to fire them.
 
RE: Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by KA4KOE on August 20, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
"Do they have a CRM-114 on display? "

Is it locked to OPE?

73,

Carl - W9PMZ"

Well boys, its time to go toe-to-toe with the Rooskies in nuclear combat.

Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room!!!
 
Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by AB0RE on August 20, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
I was in Tucson a couple years ago for work and visited the Titan Missile silo with some coworkers. The big discone immediately captured my attention. My colleagues couldn't figure out why I was so fixated on the various antennas.

I came back with a few cool pictures of the antennas, but I didn't pack a radio so I didn't have the opportunity to try out the MOAD (Mother Of All Discones :). They also have some neat underground UHF antennas there. I was told they were used exclusively to communicate with Air Force 1, but I can't confirm that.

Thanks for a great article! Thanks also for the reminder to pack a radio next time I visit the area.

73,
Dan / ab0re
 
RE: Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by K8WV on August 20, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
I was a Minuteman III Missile Combat Crew Commander at Grand Forks AFB, North Dakota, from 1971-1975.

DO NOT try the discone on 75. At least not the Minuteman version. Trust me on this. Can't say how I know, just don't do it. No sir, not a good idea.

Good on 20 though. Can't say how I know that, either.

I heard you could talk to Russians. Hands up! Got ya covered. (No, in context that wouldn't have been funny.)
 
RE: Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by W8WZ on August 20, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
No - P O E
Purity of Essence
- we can no long stand by and allow the communist infultration of our essential bodily fluids.
That's why I drink only rain water and grain alcohol.

 
Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by KE7FEH on August 20, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
GREAT Article!!! What do you normally use for HF on your Yaesu 817 portable operation?
 
RE: Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by KE4MOB on August 20, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
"DO NOT try the discone on 75. At least not the Minuteman version. Trust me on this. Can't say how I know, just don't do it. No sir, not a good idea.

Good on 20 though. Can't say how I know that, either."

Why do I get the impression that somewhere, there's a story that starts out "It was another boring night in the LCC, and I had been listening to the HF..."
 
Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by N6JN on August 20, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
If this discone is 80 feet high, the cone length will be about 60 ft. The low frequency limit for the discone
is determined by the quarter wavelength of the cone length. That means this antenna will be usable from about 4.1 MHz to as high as 41 MHz, it can be used
on 40 M through 10 M. I think its gain is about the same as a good vertical ground plane antenna.
About 30 years ago I built a VHF-UHF discone with a cone length of 2 ft, with a small aluminum pizza pan
for the top disk.It covers a range from about 130 MHz
through 1000 MHz. I still use it on 2 Meters.
73,
Jerry
 
RE: Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by W4CX on August 20, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Wow! Finally! a VERY positive and FUN article! THANK YOU. This is on my to-do list for sure! 73 de Darrell W4CX
 
RE: Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by QRZDXR2 on August 20, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
W9PMZ on August 20, 2008
"Do they have a CRM-114 on display? "

Is it locked to OPE?

73,

Carl - W9PMZ
-----------------------------------------
Get real-- most would not know one if they had a tag on it. Besides its really called the The CRM114 Discriminator. How do I know that-- well guess.

I would assume that they have it in the racks of equipment if they have the complete station. However, its probably the older tube type and today it has been replaced with newer technology (digital)

Great article and wouldn't it be nice to have the plans for the discone. Wonder how many of them they made. It was a futuristic antenna but hygain showed that the log P was better in the end although not onmi directional. Then again it would give away the RCO transmitter site by pointing at it as the other sat went over clicking away at ground photos.

Primary today is sat com. Secondary is still the twisted pair.

Great pictures and article. Brought back old memories of yesteryears.

Oh and when we went though a few years ago to the solar observ. We were told that as you head out on ajo way past robles junction Their is a old silo that was sold and converted into a "home". They supposedly have open house once a month showing off their green energy system. The owner I am told is a ham and uses the push up aux vertical even today.

I didn't have time to go look for it but, next time I go out that way will.

Other items of intrest if the RV hams are headed this way. Old Tucson, home of the tv movies. Get off at Kinney Rd. If you see ryan airfield on your right== you went too far. Of course if you bring your shotgun they also have a great trap and skeet range out that way too.

Another item of intrest just up the road a ways north of tucson is the pima Air museum (one of the largest in the US that has something for everyone in aviation)

We just about have it all down here folks... join the RV ham clubs and come sat a spell... well keep a rocking chair open for ya.
 
Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by KY1V on August 20, 2008 Mail this to a friend!

Excellent Article!!!

I especially loved the lead up to launching the missile. I actually felt like I was back in the Cold War days!

The museum is now on my to visit list also.

The Discone antenna is quite interesting. I have heard of it, but never seen one. Thanks for sharing your photos.

73,

David ~ KY1V
UltraDX.com
 
RE: Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by W9PMZ on August 21, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
QRZDXR2 Whoever........

You obviously didn't see the movie to see the dark humor side of this post.

Apparently some did and I hope they got a chuckle and not an uptight get real..........

PS - I'm sending Col. Bat Guano after you....

73,

Carl - W9PMZ
 
RE: Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by KE7FD on August 21, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
I recall many a trip to Tucson as a child where we could see the mounds of the silo's protruding from the desert floor. Odd how we seemed then to think such things were "normal" which I too am glad that saner minds prevailed.

Very good read, photographs and article overall. The fact that the club/museum makes available connection to the antenna: Great emergency antenna. Ironic.
 
RE: Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by QRZDXR2 on August 21, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
W9PMZ on August 21, 2008
QRZDXR2 Whoever........

You obviously didn't see the movie to see the dark humor side of this post.

Apparently some did and I hope they got a chuckle and not an uptight get real..........

PS - I'm sending Col. Bat Guano after you....

73,

Carl - W9PMZ
------------------------------------------------

Just so long as he doesn't try to steal my PBF's

No I got your jest and humor. smile

slim pickings

who knows the way things are going we might have to go back and spruce up the old silos
 
Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by K9CTB on August 21, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Wow!! Great article! My dad was in SAC as a missile crewman back when I was a kid. Never got to see his "office" or anything, but I remember he had a bag packed by the door all the time, and there were always "alerts".

Great pictures and a great post!! Thanks for sharing it.

73 de Neil
K9CTB
 
RE: Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by KG4YMC on August 21, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
you had me going for a second, then thought , how could obama 's brother operate and buy a radio for onely a dollar a year ? neat article. has anyone used the mfj or homemade discones? how well do they work/ hopefully, better than my typeing fingers.. sorry good phots also . just curious , were they digital? good quality, I'm an old film man ... 73 kg4ymc
 
Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by LU1YNE on August 21, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Great Article and Spectacular Photos! Congrats!

Ed, LU1YNE
 
RE: Discone AND Folded Cage Monopole  
by KQ6Q on August 21, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
I was an MCCC at D-M from Dec 1974 through Feb 1979. There was a feedpoint selection at the DMCCC console where you could choose the discone 6-30mhz, or use the antenna as a folded cage Monopole from 3-6Mhz. I used to take my Century 21 on alert with me at 571-5, connected up to the discage as a monopole, and had a fabulous time on 80 meters with it. With the 3-6mhz selection, you fed the mast at the bottom, and the cone, with the wires that connected the ring at the widest part of the cone to the base, formed the cage.
With the Discone, the feedpoint was at the top.
Someone should try 571-5 as a field day site - it was on the road up to Madera Canyon, southeast across the valley. You could still see the orange balls on the power lines (for the choppers to avoid) at the point where 571-5 used to be. Great propagation to the West and North - Washington, Alaska, Japan, etc.
 
Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by KQ6Q on August 21, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
You absolutely do NOT need an antenna tuner with the discone or the folded cage monopole. They are both extremely broadband!

Fred Wagner, KQ6Q
MCCC R-152, site 571-5 1974-79.
W7HSS during my assignment at D-M
 
Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by WB4ILP on August 21, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Too Cool !
 
Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by NL7W on August 21, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Great article.

It brought back memories of the Eighties when I was a "GLCM Warrier" and communications technician team member maintaining HF, VHF, UHF, and SATCOM encrypted voice and data comms as a member of the Ground Launched Cruise Missile (GLCM) -- a nuclear-tipped mobile "Tomahawk" cruise missile system deployed in Europe.

73.

 
RE: Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by NL7W on August 21, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
GLCM Warrior, that is... (sp).
 
RE: Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by KQ6Q on August 21, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
The GLCM guys, and the ALCM's on the B-52G's were the straw that made the Soviets fold in the cold war - just no way they could defend against those and Star Wars too! My assignment after Titan II's was with the Operational Test and Eval of the AGM-86 and AGM-109 at Edwards AFB. We also tested the newer digital avionics (IWS) for the B-52's - before that, the Bomb/Nav suites were mostly analog, required lots of interface wizardry to talk to digital missiles, including the Hound Dog's (AGM-77) which we even carried in B-52D's (in one squadron at least).
 
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by WB4TJH on August 21, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Great article and photos! This is the kind of article that I really enjoy reading and thanks for sharing it with us. I would love to operate from such a place. As mucn as I enjoy qrp,I would want a hundred watts to really see what I could do!
 
RE: Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by K8SRB on August 21, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Great article. The great pictures brings back some memories. I worked for ITT/FEC in the silos around Larson AFB so I have seen and worked on the real stuff.
 
RE: Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by N2EY on August 22, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
"Do they have a CRM-114 on display? "

"Is it locked to OPE?"

"A fella could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff"

"Roastin' chickens in the barnyard!"

"I'm not saying we won't get our hair mussed..."

73 de Jim, N2EY
 
Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by W9GDH on August 22, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
I see two transevers in the fouth photo.
Are the AN/GRC-171s still operational?
 
Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by W0KAD on August 22, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
I was glad to see the FB article by AC7ZL. It kind of made all the work the Green Valley Amateur Radio Club [GVARC] has put in worth while.

Over the years GVARC has had several Special event operations using the Antenna each time hooking a temporary coax to the Discone. About a year ago the Director of the Titan Missile Museum Yvonne Morris was approached with the idea that it would be fun if the antenna could be made avalable to any Ham operator to use with there own equipment. She was very supportive getting the project complete.

The GVARC supplied the direct burial Coax and several members dug the trench to its terminal at the edge of the overflow parking lot. We erected a steel box to house a length of 52 ohm Coax to be used to hook to your equipment.
A club member Rudy N3EBG made and donated the signs to match the originals to keep the site historically correct.
George AD7DH works at the Museum giving tours and keeps a regular watch on the hookup for us.

Last spring we had a seed donation from a California Ham saying it would be better if we had a picnic table We passed the hat at the next GVARC meeting and there is now a picnic table.

We also host a page on our web site as a point of contact [see link to GVARC on Titan Missile Museum website] or go to directly to http://gvarc.us & click on “Explore Titan”
If any one has question I would be happy to TRY to answer them.

AC7ZL thanks for the great article Come back and visit us. Give a call on the repeater several members will probably be drinking coffee at the local coffee shop.

73 Gene W0KAD
GVARC

 
RE: Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by NL7W on August 23, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Yes, the GRC-171's are still in-service. Most have been replaced with the GRC-171(V)4, though. The updated, similar looking radio employs "Have Quick" technology.

73.
 
RE: Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by KD7DCR on August 25, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
I had the good luck to work this club station on the Discone this past spring...The close by aviation display was also discussed and they sent me a CD of photos from all those displays and some that are still being reassembled.

BUT...the most interesting thing discussed was:::

YOU TOO CAN ONE ONE OF THESE WONDERS...There is a guy down there in AZ land that has 2 or 3 of them left over after he bid on them so he could put one up himself... Now, if you wonder what it costs...don't ask - just go for it!! Your HOA or other antenna nazi's will just drop dead when they see it up in the front yard of the condo....hi,hi...

Great article...more like it please...
 
RE: Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by WV4L on August 26, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
KEWL article! Like other replies, this too brought back memories of my short tenure as a UH-1 chopper pilot providing support to the silo-boys.
 
RE: Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by WT8E on August 27, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Very nice article. If my memory serves me correctly Lowery was Titan I, not Titan II. I worked at the sites from 1962 to 1966, first part of my tour of duty was at Beale AFB , California, the last year was at McConnell AFB in Kansas and that was Titan II. I don't need the tour, spent many hours there but the pictures sure brought back a lot of memories. If we had ever lit our candles none of us would be reading this now.
 
Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by K3VW on August 28, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
I was stationed at Vandenburg AFB, Ca. in the early sixties (1962-1963) and worked at a Silo every day, along with some folks from the Martin-Marietta Co. It was nice to see some pictures of the inside of the Silo here, because we were not allowed cameras, inside the Silo, back then. It was a very nervous time in my life, knowing that if a Nuclear War started, our missle sites were subject of the first round of missles, from the Soviet Union. The great "Cold War"! Great job on this article !! Vaughn "Willy" Worth K3VW
 
RE: Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by N5PTV on August 28, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Field Day Supplies:
One forty-five caliber automatic; two boxes of ammunition; four days' concentrated emergency rations; one drug issue containing antibiotics, morphine, vitamin pills, pep pills, sleeping pills, tranquilizer pills; one miniature combination Russian phrase book and Bible; one hundred dollars in rubles; one hundred dollars in gold; nine packs of chewing gum; one issue of prophylactics; three lipsticks; three pair of nylon stockings.

"Shoot, a fella' could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff."
 
RE: Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by WA2JJH on September 2, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Ultra cool artical. I heard those "Silo-condo's" are a real blast. :)
One dude made build a swimming pool out of some part of his silo-condo.

Nice photo's too.

73 DE MIKE WA2JJH
 
RE: Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by WA2JJH on September 2, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
<<<<"Shoot, a fella' could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff." >>>>

Slim Pickins said that line in DR Strangelove?
 
Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by KB3GJL on September 3, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Thanks for writing a fantastic article. Thanks also to the GVARC for making this antenna available to amateur operators everywhere. I hope I will get the chance to use it someday.

Several years ago, I stumbled across a "vitual tour" of an abandoned missile site. A couple of guys decided to risk life, limb, and felony convictions to go exploring in an old missile complex, and followed it up with a web site.

http://triggur.org/silo/

Don't try this at home.
 
RE: Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by N8CPA on September 3, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Great article!

Part of the movie, Star Trek; First Contact was filmed at the site and couple of scenes showed the discone.
I must have looked at it a little too langorously, because my wife leaned over and sternly whispered,
"NO!"
 
Cold War QRP: A Case of 'Discone Fever?'  
by KE4ZHN on September 9, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Interesting read. Id love to have that discone up in my backyard. What a monster. The museum looks very interesting to visit too. Im glad the cold war era is over as those were some pretty scary times for all of us. Of course, America cant rest on her laurels and think all is well with the world since our radical Muslim enemies seem determined to try to blow us up. I guess there always has to be someone with an axe to grind.
 
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