A Little 'Elmering' On Ham Safety
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September 8, 2008
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A Little "Elmering" On Ham Safety
Copyright 2008
F. Gordon Hubbell
N1OU
To paraphrase a great old saying invented by cautious aviators: "There are old hams and there are bold hams, but there are no old, bold hams."
I'm really pleased to see all the new hams coming into the hobby and I'm also pleased to see good articles in QST, CQ, and here on eHam to help them get started in our great hobby and service! It is a good time to be an Elmer. There's so much you can do in Amateur Radio that nobody should ever be bored with it. However, when learning something new, there's nothing quite like listening to experience. That's what Elmers are for. So, this article is primarily for the "newbies" but it also takes a bit of a new angle on some of our constant perils than can be appreciated by veterans, too.
Ham Radio is not a dangerous hobby by a long shot, and I doubt if any ham ever came to the hobby just seeking thrills from risking his or her neck! But, there are some things that need constant attention in order to keep all one's digits intact and the old ticker ticking away. Here, with a different slant on the labels, are some cautions that are universal to being a ham.
First, Mother Nature Doesn't Know You're A Good Guy . . . and bolts of electricity from the sky occur at random, striking antennas as well as trees, poles, buildings, and the occasional pro golfer (just ask Lee Trevino).
There's an old adage that says, "If you're spending $100 on your station, spend $99 on the antenna and $1 on the radio". It's all about getting the most "bang" for your buck. There should be a sub-adage, though, that says, "and spend a good chunk of your $99 on lightning protection in case you get a bang you don't want.
There are lots of good articles on this site and in the ham magazine archives on lightning preparations, so read up before you put up. Basically, the best protection comes down to really adequate grounding, isolation, static protection and disconnection. Even though my station is well grounded and I have taken good precautions, I always disconnect my antennas at the shack end before storms or if I think there's a better than average chance of lightning. I also disconnect them if I'm going to be away so that if a storm comes up I won't have to sit and stew about what might be happening back at my shack. Word of warning, though: A direct strike can course through even the best protection and come in on your feedline. Make sure to have a neighbor or relative check on things if there's been a "big one" in the neighborhood and you're out of town or otherwise occupied.
Second, Gravity Never Takes A Day Off . . . and anything that is up in the air will be relentlessly attempting to come back down. The allies of gravity are wind, water, ice, and time.
While you are allocating that critical ninety-nine bucks, put some of it into the best hardware you can buy, reading and obeying the manuals of tower, mast/pole, and antenna manufacturers. Often, wire and aluminum in the air fall harmlessly, but the goal is to prevent downfalls of airborne equipment just in case there's something valuable (like your new pickup or worse, your head, underneath!).
Some good rules to follow (in addition to the requirements of manufacturers) are:
1. Anchor deeply and solidly - nothing in the air should move much unless it is connected to a rotator.
2. Unless you are absolutely certain you're within an engineer's specifications for "free standing" guy it!
3. Don't put up cheap stuff - scrimping on some components is great fun and part of the challenge of the hobby, but up in the air isn't the place to do it.
4. If you're going "up" always use safety gear and don't go it alone - have a spotter on the ground (wearing a hard hat if he's going to be underneath you).
5. If you've got "anything at all" in the air, check on it frequently. Look for bad things like rust, tilts, sags, leans, bends, breaks or bits and pieces that gravity already snagged and that have come to rest on your roof or on the lawn.
6. Even if you're just "pushing up a vertical" or "slinging a dipole" it's still a good idea to have somebody watching - see the next section!
Third, The Power Company Can Make "Lightning" For You . . . fortunately, its pretty easy to see this potential peril - keep your eyes open!
Some hams will be lucky enough to have both underground power and no CC&R's (read that "antenna restrictions") and will be pretty safe from both. However, the sad news is that there's still plenty of good old AC power coming in overhead for most of us. This means that anything going "up" has the potential to touch it. And, if it does, you'll learn the real meaning of "potential" as voltage translates into amps and watts via your mishandled mast, antenna or wire. If you're lucky you'll get sparks and maybe burns. If you're unlucky you'll be on the next list of silent keys (deceased hams). Always assume you'll be unlucky.
Before you attempt anything that will move metal into the air, take a really good look around the whole area. Never, never count on a "near miss" to work out in your favor - "close" can get you zapped! (See K5END's excellent article "Deadly Misunderstandings About Power Lines") Bite the bullet and pay an electrician or the power company to make a temporary line move for you, or relocate your "raising" if you can.
A final word: When stringing cable or line in the attic, though walls, or under the house, watch out for AC lines, too. Even though it's likely to be "only" 120-240 volts with a circuit breaker or fuse on it, it can still mess up your day.
Fourth, When You're On The Air, You Can Make Lightning, Too . . . This will be of the RF variety (radio frequency) and it has the power to do harm as well as good.
If you're newly licensed, there were questions on your exam about radio frequency energy and its effects at various power levels, frequencies, and distances. Take this stuff seriously, even if all you're going to do is hook your little HT or portable to a higher gain antenna. RF energy can burn, maim and even kill if the situation is right.
Lower power levels at most of the frequencies we hams use are generally safe, but it pays to check your situation. Any time you're stepping up power or antenna gain, re-calculate your radiation! Never point a "live" directional antenna directly at anyone, even at low power. Treat connected antennas like loaded guns - they are going to fire "energy".
Even if you've done your homework and your power and frequency and distance are safe for everyone around, there's some other stuff to be aware of:
1. The ends of a dipole or inverted-vee antenna are sometimes near ground level where they can be accidentally touched by people in the area or come in contact with combustible materials. When transmitting, balanced antenna ends (and sometimes other places on the antenna) can be very high voltage points.
2. Antenna feeds (like the line running to your ground-mounted vertical or to your remote antenna tuner) can connect with an open, unprotected clip or to devices that could be accidentally touched by people in the area.
3. Protect low-lying RF connections of all sorts with some sort of cover or at least a warning. If kids play in your yard, don't make connections their curious little fingers can get into.
Fifth, Ohm's Law Is Still Valid (V=IR for the more advanced reader) . . . a "potential" (voltage) will make current flow through YOU when the situation permits (you can suddenly be a conductor, and I don't mean the kind that used to work on trains).
Back in the "boat anchor" days (tube-type radios) all of us hams had a really healthy respect for the transformers, rectifier circuits, B+ lines, and everything else "under the hood" of our gear. As a technician for Uncle Sam and, later, Motorola, I learned to work on these circuits with one hand (watches and rings removed) while the other was tucked behind my back. I always tried to know what was "hot" and treated everything as "hot" until proven it wasn't.
More modern equipment, particularly transceivers and receivers made in the last couple of decades, is usually lower-voltage and relatively safer than older gear. However, that doesn't mean it can't "bite". Even a so-called 12-volt (usually 13.8 or so in reality) "low voltage" hook-up can pack a lot of power if there's delivery capability (high current) involved.
I think it is still a great idea to work on electrical circuits and connections without watches and rings! Yes, if your wedding band spans a couple of lines on a 12 volt printed circuit board it is likely you won't feel anything and may not even see the sparks. However, if there's more current carrying ability (like across the output terminals of a power supply) or if you're working on AC (house current) input circuits (higher potential), that same ring can wind up "welded" to something while your finger is in it! It won't feel good, and your ability to get away from the pain may be limited.
Sixth, Newton's Laws Of Motion Haven't Been Repealed, Either (for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction, yada, yada, yada and et cetera) . . . which means, when mobile, you and your radio stuff need to be strapped in. Fast stops, or worse getting hit by another vehicle can dislodge "missiles" of many types.
I'm no physicist, but if I were I'm sure I could grab my slide rule (oops . . . I mean my pocket calculator) and inform you how much an unattached, five-pound radio will hurt you when it has been doing seventy on the freeway and suddenly, you are in its way and are no longer doing seventy but it is. Ouch!
Think about the stuff outside your car, too. Magnet-mount antennas are great, but if the antennas are big and heavy, the magnets need to be big and heavy, too. Mount antennas and brackets solidly, on the theory that they will detach themselves, ultimately, if you don't show them who is boss.
Funny story related to this one: I once knew a ham, years ago, who managed to get a 160 meter station into his Volkswagen bus. The huge antenna and loading coil, mounted on a big spring on the roof, would "oscillate" whenever he stopped. If he stopped suddenly, the weight of this thing would really rock the boat (causing the VW to look like it was doing the hula) and his "whip" antenna did exactly as its name implied! Luckily, it never hit anyone.
Wrapping It Up . . . all good advice comes to an end.
Are there other perils and dangers? You bet! These are just the ones I thought about for this article. So, keep your thinking cap on whenever lightning, power lines, RF energy, gravity, momentum or voltage potentials are involved.
I don't want to discourage anyone from tinkering with their equipment, raising a skyhook, or enjoying the warm thrills of those great old boat anchors! Rather, I just want all my fellow hams, and especially the new ones, to play it cautious and be there to carve the next Thanksgiving turkey.
It is easy to enjoy being a ham, safely -- even when you're working with some of the things I've mentioned that are, let's face it, the higher risk activities in our hobby. There's another old adage that goes, "God looks out for drunks and idiots" and from personal observation I think it is sometimes true. However, don't count on it. Make your own luck!
73
N1OU
Author's footnote: I wrote this article quite a while ago and decided not to publish it because, quite frankly, I'm sick of all the anonymous flamers and trolls that inhabit eHam. However, Sunday, July 13, two people were killed in Kansas City because an antenna they were putting up touched a power line. So, flame away guys. If I can encourage anyone to be just a little bit more thoughtful when dealing with some ham "hazards" it will be worth it.
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by KC5HMC on September 8, 2008
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Great article!! I would like to add that you can call 1-800-DIG-TESS ( 1-800-344-8377 ) at least 2 days before but not more than 14 days, and they will mark all of the utilities that are burried in your yard. I called them before I planted two new dipole hangers (trees) and found that I would have put a pick ax right into a power line and a cable TV line if I would have put them where I had planned.
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by K0UA on September 8, 2008
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Good article. I once stuck a 1.5 volt nicad battery to my nice gold ring, and had to move quick to get it off before it got too hot. It was an industrial battery and did not have good insulation at the top of the battery between the outer case (negative) and the center top cap (positive). Just an example of what can happen if you don't watch out around high currents and low voltages.
IMHO people should not be allowed to post without a valid callsign, or full name
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by K1CJS on September 8, 2008
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A worthwhile read--even for some of us who've 'been there and done that'. Thanks and 73!
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by KB2DHG on September 8, 2008
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Being in the SAFETY business as an Elevator Inspector, we can never be too complacent when it comes to safety, NO MATTER how obvious it may seem always having a constant awarness of saftey is always a good idea.
I commend this article on it's content and hope many will read and abide by it....
One thing left out which should be mentioned... Another safety factor is making sure you do not spend more time with Amateur radio than the XYL... A rap in the back of the head with a frying pan can hurt an awfull lot!
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by KG4RUL on September 8, 2008
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r.e. Utility Damage Prevention - This document from the Common Ground Alliance provides a LOT of information on the process of identifying underground utilities. If you dig through this voluminous document you will also see descriptions of the various marking schemes used.
http://www.commongroundalliance.com/Content/NavigationMenu/Best_Practices/Best_Practices_2008/BP_5.0_March2008_Final.pdf
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by KB9CRY on September 8, 2008
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Another article based on personal conjecture and not proven facts:
"Basically, the best protection comes down to really adequate grounding, isolation, static protection and disconnection."
Yes, this is good information....but then the author lets his opinion stifle a good article...
"Word of warning, though: A direct strike can course through even the best protection and come in on your feedline."
Wrong, wrong, wrong....a properly designed and installed grounding system containing all 5 basic elements, using good devices, proper bonding materials and connections will always shunt strike energy to ground and not into your shack.
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by W8JII on September 8, 2008
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didn't take long did it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by AD5TD on September 8, 2008
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No it didn't. There is always one ass in the bunch.
Very good stuff. I am printing it out for future reference.
And yes a direct strike will do pretty much any damn thing it pleases, no matter what you do. All you can do is cajole the joules to where you want them.
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by W3WN on September 8, 2008
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Gordon,
Great article!
With your permission, I'd like to reprint this in a future issue of my club newsletter (fully accredited to you, of course!)
73, ron w3wn
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by WB4LFC on September 8, 2008
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Very good article.I'm printing out for my personel records.
73,all
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by KG6WLS on September 8, 2008
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Gordon, good article and thanks!
It doesn't matter what age, what class, or how many years one has been an amateur. Anything can happen if one takes short-cuts and/or doesn't have a game plan.
Thanks again.
73 de KG6WLS
Mike
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by K6YE on September 8, 2008
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Gordon,
You have penned a great article. Congratulations!!
I worked in the Telecom industry for many years. One day I viewed a film, produced by Edison Electric, on safety. It showed real accidents involving linemen making contact with upwards of 4.4KV. The victems were taken to the Sherman Oaks, California Burn Center for treatment. A day-by-day series was shown and one could see affected body parts die and disintegrate. In some cases, the victems died after a slow and painful process.
After viewing said film, a crew went out to place some aerial cable strand wire. Safety dictates that the vehicle dispensing the strand is properly grounded, body safety equipment on each person, and approved rubber blankets are on the ground.
The supervisor was down the street checking on future jobs when a kid accidently released a metallic balloon which went skyward. It hit a 8.8KV line which detached and landed on an existing wire strand. Yup, you guessed it. The deadly potential raced down the line toward the crew. Fortunately, the guy on the truck had not yet attached the new strand. He was a bit shaken when the supervisor returned to see if anything had happened. He indicated that he saw a mysterious blue light race along the existing strand (about five feet in front of him).
The supervisor related what had occurred down the street and began an immediate safety check. Note well that the crew was highly experienced. The supervisor found the following infractions:
1. Truck snd strand were not grounded.
2. No rubber blanket on ground.
3. Employees did not have required safety gear on.
4. Some of the existing strands (Telecom and CATV) were not grounded and/or bonded.
The crew was as lucky as a poop house rat as there were no injuries! The only damages were the 8.8KV line, some strand, several telephones and CATV converter boxes. Memorandums were handed out to three employees. Hopefully, they learned something about safety. If not, the grim reaper may greet them next time. The reaper is obolivious to race, color, creed, religion, wealth (or the lack thereof), social position, or being a good and just person.
Keep up the good work.
Semper Fi,
Tommy - K6YE
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by NV2A on September 8, 2008
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Good article and likely to help some of those who take the time to read it.
Don't sweat the CRYbaby. He hasn't found one thing good about any article on the site yet. All his comments are negative. We also haven't heard yet from the guy who says all articles are mostly from trolls at work!
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by W5ROY on September 8, 2008
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Very nice and informative article. Look at the call(KB9CRY) of the nay sayer, and it says it all. I work around high power tv transmitters(18,000 watts) and we have some of the best grounding money can buy. It still gets whacked sometimes. A 400' rod in the air is a big attraction. I fortunately have never been seriously hurt in my climbing experience, but I haven't quit yet. I am 68 yrs old, and just camae off a 240 footer yesterday a little tired, but no worse for the wear. I just paced myself and got the job done. Everyone have fun. Don't bite off more than you can chew. Be observant of your surroundings. Happy Hamming. 73 de W5ROY Roy
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by K0BG on September 8, 2008
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Wonderful and timely article.
One item that should be stressed is safe climbing. Within the last 12 months, I've lost two amateur friends who've fallen. One because he was in too big of a hurry to attach his ballistic strap.
And...
Philip, I hope you never sustain a direct hit. If you do, all your published protection schemes notwithstanding, you'll most likely live up to your call's suffix.
Alan, KØBG
www.k0bg.com
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by K0DCH on September 8, 2008
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Good advice, particularly the need for caution around the high voltage in boat anchors.
Many hams who have had nothing but solid state equipment may not appreciate the dangerous voltages in that old boat anchor they picked up at Dayton.
As a very young ham back in the late 50's I received more than one burn from an accidental contact with a high voltage lead...the "one hand behind the back" rule probably saved my life. (What were my parents thinking?)
Thanks for the article.
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by KB9CRY on September 8, 2008
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Hey you guys can call me all the names you want; I can take it.
Yes, it's a good article except he's allowing his personal conjecture to creep into it and that skews the "service" the article is intended to provide.
As all who know anything about lightning grounding; a properly installed system CAN shunt direct strike energy to ground and not blow up your equipment.
To further that notion is nothing but a dis-service.
The rest of the article is good; but since we're a technical hobby, we ought to provide factual technical advice.
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by W9PMZ on September 8, 2008
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"Hey you guys can call me all the names you want; I can take it. "
Wow! I didn't know you had any more keys on your keyboard other than the K and the 3.
73,
Carl - W9PMZ
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by K0BG on September 8, 2008
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The problem is Philip, the protection scheme you're proposing is not a panacea for lightning protection. That said, there are folks who regularly get hit, and are protected by the schemes. You might very well be one of them. However, the fact remains, if you get a direct hit, you're at the mercy of mother nature, and she's one unforgiving bitch!
Alan, KØBG
www.k0bg.com
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by K5END on September 8, 2008
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Thanks to the author.
This is a remarkably well-written, informative and accurate article.
I also applaud the comments indicating that one need not be a newbie to get hurt.
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by K5END on September 8, 2008
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Caveat to confidence in lightning protection:
I have YET to see any design or installation that did not have a vulnerability. There is no perfect system from the hands or minds of mankind, and there probably never will be.
And lightning is a Tsunami. It WILL find that vulnerability.
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by GW0DIV on September 8, 2008
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Wasn't the Titanic "properly designed" to the best of the designer's skill not to sink? If everything worked as designed 100% of the time there'd be no such thing as insurance!! Electricty is the giver and taker of life and should always be treated with the due respect. Like people when you get lots of electricity in one place it does crazy unpredictable things!!
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by 2E0MCA on September 8, 2008
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As an ex-union safety officer I always found that a little humour got the message across better than photos of burns and broken bones. This is an excellent article.
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by KC0RBX on September 8, 2008
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I would like to add a point or two to your fine article.
When working on things electrical, pay attention to where water may be. Also pay attention to where other metal is at. These can be great ways to become grounded when you don't want to be. The other thing I would mention is that if you are sweaty, try drying yourself off before working around electricity. Sweat is moist AND salty. It can really increase the conductivity of your skin. Sorry to say, but I know that one from experience! I'm lucky to be here still, if ya know what I mean. Best of all, don't work it hot if you don't have to. Another point I would like to stress is that if you don't know, ask. If it has potential danger and you're not sure how to work on it, find someone who does and learn from them.
Finally, if it has the potential to harm you think hard about having someone there with you or to just be there in case you need an ambulance or something else.
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by WA8MEA on September 8, 2008
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I use to be bold, but that behavior ceased in a hurry when my heart stopped beating.
I was only a kid, maybe 14 or 15 at the time when I was poking around underneath my Ameco AC-1. Yes, plugged in and turned on while I was using my "golden screwdriver" to touch each connection to try and find the intermittent connection.
HOWEVER, I did recall the old handbook stating you should have one hand in the back pocket. I think that fact, and my Converse All Star (rubber sole) basketball shoes are the only reasons why I'm here today.
Well, all it took was a quick slip of the finger from the insulated handle to the metal section of the screwdriver.
I mean, I felt the shock go right across my chest! The electricity didn't grab me like some incidents. I was able to let go. However, I will NEVER forget the shock! My heart literally stopped! No, it didn't skip. I felt it COMPLETELY stop and really thought I was dead meat!
It was only a few seconds but felt like an eternity. My knees buckled and I fell to the floor.
After the fall, I could feel my heart re-fire with a tremendous force! When it re-started....I gasped for every breath! I crawled over and laid down on the bed. (My shack was in my bedroom.)
I didn't know what to do. If I told my parents, they would surely take my ham stuff away! So I rested for a while, making sure everything was working OK. I think the ill feeling afterwards was due more to anxiety than anything else. I didn't sleep all night, afraid my heart would stop again.
I didn't tell my parents until almost 40 years later.
Ever since then, I've mainly tinkered with DC powered stuff. AC gave me a fright I will never forget....
73, Bill - WA8MEA
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by G3VGR on September 8, 2008
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Nice article, full of good information based on common sense.
73
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by K6AER on September 8, 2008
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I might add a bit on what I call the coax-is-disconnected myth. Lightning can travel up to 4 miles from the cloud to the ground. Disconnecting you coax from the radio and leaving the gear connected to other gear and AC mains will help very little. The lightning energy will flash from the coax end to the nearest ground path. Many times you radio has a better ground than the AC feeding your home.
To protect your gear investments you need to completely disconnect the gear and move it to an isolated location or you need to ground the end of the coax feeds. Grounding the coax feed is best.
Three weeks ago I got struck by lightning while I was on the air. The crack sounded like a 7mm magnum going off in the ham shack. While I lost no equipment in the shack my GP-9 antenna was basically blown off the top of the tower. It went from 17 feet long to 3 feet in length. My neighbor saw the strike and called me right after wards quite excited. He said there was flaming debris falling all over the place. That was my 4th GP-9 lost to lightning in the last 9 years. An all metal DB-224 will be going up next.
Proper grounding techniques work and work very well. But this is not something you can do half heartily. Your system will only be as good as your weakest link. Too often I have heard hams say I put in a ground rod and I lost equipment. Having a complete grounding system from the AC mains to the tower is the only way to go.
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by W7ETA on September 8, 2008
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Nice prose; easy to follow.
I ware lace up boots with treads on the soles and remove my ring and watch before heading up my tower.
73
Bob
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by KB9CRY on September 8, 2008
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Having a complete grounding system from the AC mains to the tower is the only way to go.
Correct. And, if it's properly designed and properly installed using proper components, yes, it can be hard to believe, direct strike energy can and does all the time be shunted safely to ground.
Me and thousands of commercial radio stations and local police & fire departments can help tell the story.
And, there's nothing magical or really that expensive about it. Even you the average joe ham can do it.
All those folks who say they had a ground rod and they got zapped; when analyzing every situation, one will find some element of the properly designed grounding system was missing or not installed properly. Every time.
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by N2EY on September 8, 2008
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GW0DIV writes:
"Wasn't the Titanic "properly designed" to the best of the designer's skill not to sink?"
Yes, it was. However, it was improperly *operated*, and the mistakes made in that operation resulted in damage beyond what the design could tolerate.
For example, despite repeated warnings of ice ahead, the ship did not slow down. There was no moon, the sea was dead calm and the lookouts had no binoculars because nobody could find them, so by the time they saw the iceberg it was too late to avoid hitting it.
GW0DIV: "If everything worked as designed 100% of the time there'd be no such thing as insurance!!"
Yes, there would be, because some things no design can prevent.
Safety is a combination of proper design and proper operation.
73 de Jim, N2EY
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by KE4ZHN on September 8, 2008
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Nice article. One can never play it too safe when dealing with high voltage, RF and mother nature. This hobby is relatively safe but it CAN get mighty dangerous with the right conditions in a hurry. Just recently we lost two fellow amateurs putting up a simple VHF vertical when it fell on a live power line. Both poor souls were killed instantly. Never take safety for granted, it can be a fatal mistake.
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by N3OX on September 8, 2008
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"
GW0DIV: "If everything worked as designed 100% of the time there'd be no such thing as insurance!!"
Yes, there would be, because some things no design can prevent. "
Natural phenomena tend follow a probability distribution that may simultaneously give rise to comments like K0BG's contention that Mother Nature is a bitch, and KB9CRY's comments that you can shunt direct strike energy to ground every time.
If you had a gaussian random distribution of lightning strike currents, wind gusts, whatever, one of them might be right.
But natural phenomena, wind, waves, lightning, they tend to be distributed in a way that makes the VERY BIG events quite a bit more likely (with respect to the probability of an event of "average" severity, that is, of the mean size) t
A proper design will take the probability distribution of events into account, but that's a problem that faces even professional engineers in some areas. Wind and wave power are difficulties in this regard; you make a generator that produces useful output at the mean wave height or wind speed, and the big wave or gust breaks it...
In terms of the comments in this thread, I think that means that we can both feel you can design for anything (if you design for 99.999% of events, you're pretty good), but there's still the possibility that someone in the discussion was alive to experience or hear about a 0.000001% likely event ;-)
Dan
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by K4RAF on September 8, 2008
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To second CRY's take on the article...
I suggest those who doubt what he says to look up cell site grounding procedures. Everything is bonded, fence posts, gates, door frames, coax top, coax bottom & entry into shelter or cabinet. Shelter or cabinet has "unidirectional grounding halo" (no corners). Having worked in the field for 15 years, I never saw a direct hit nor a proximity hit that damaged anything...
The problem with hams is they overthink the simple. Drain the static & there will be no potential... Or just don't bother... Anything half way proves to be detrimental at best...
Raf
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by N4JTE on September 8, 2008
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Sitting here in Key Largo, Fl awaiting whats left of hurricane Ike and having gone thru Andrew 17 years ago I have to agree with the concept that " Mother Nature" can be a bitch. This well written article is on point and well done, however, there ain't nothing out there that will immunize any of us from a direct lightning hit, all we can do is hunker down and hope the basic precautions supercede any bad reality.
Bob
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by K5END on September 8, 2008
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Dan said, "Natural phenomena tend follow a probability distribution..."
Loved your explanation. Well said.
But I'm curious. Does this probability mean there is an "uncertainty" regarding the electrons in said lightning strike?
<grin>
Sorry, it was too easy. Couldn't resist. Or maybe it's just too late and the Heineken effect prevaileth.
:-)
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by K5END on September 8, 2008
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RAF makes a good point, but few hams go to the expense and trouble to protect to the extent common in cell sites or other telecom towers.
I work in a similar environment with the same practices you describe.
It works 100%...well, maybe it WOULD, if not for the LESS than 100% human give-a-$#}+ factor exhibited by the field techs.
Therefore, I can tell you that unfortunately, it does not protect from 100% of the lightning events.
And the magic smoke is released from the circuit boards.
No worky.
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by W4LGH on September 9, 2008
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With the NEW breed of Hams coming into the hobby today, Safety can NOT be stressed enough. Like so many other things in life, just because you have a license that says you CAN, doesn't mean you SHOULD!!
This is not to put anyone down, or make someone better than someone else, but today's hams are non-technical, they don't truly understand exposure to high levels of RF, hi-voltage and the like. So ANY lessons about safety is a really good thing. That is if they listen!
The old saying goes, "You can lead a horse to water, but you can NOT make him drink!" with the added saying, "But you can Drown Him" really comes to mind.
But with time, comes experience, and with experience come knowledge, guess time will tell! Be Careful!!!!!
Pay attention to Warning Labels!!! 3000volts @ 1amp can and WILL KILL you!!!
73 de W4LGH - Alan
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by K0BG on September 9, 2008
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To the naysayers....
One year ago this month, a lightning strike hit the north cell tower belonging to Plateau Telephone here in Roswell, NM. According to Plateau, this tower gets hit about 20 times a year, usually without any damage. We have to assume then, they know how to ground their equipment.
However, this time it literally blew the rack apart, destroyed 100+ feet of 3 inch hard line. As a result, the site was down for 4 days.
As been said, 99.9999% isn't a panacea.
Alan, KØBG
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by KZ1X on September 9, 2008
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Agreed; a well-written article. If it appeared in a for-profit publication, you'd have extra $$ in your pocket. Thanks for sharing for sharing's sake.
Now, my turn...
My grandfather taught me as a young child:
"Never touch a wire you can't see both ends of."
It's worked so far for me! He was a pretty neat guy. (His brother-in-law was W2LOO.) We all stand on the shoulders of giants.
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by K5END on September 9, 2008
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Sure. Yeah.
You can make a site 100% safe from lightning. The same principle applies to:
>Don't try this. I can do it safely because I am a professional (from famous, unfortunately deceased crocodile hunter--killed by a sting ray.)
>If you understand how to interact with the grizzly bears, you can live among them (from well known, unfortunately deceased, self-taught grizzly expert--killed and eaten, along with his girlfriend, by a grizzly.)
>A tiger can be tamed and domesticated to be made safe (as demonstrated by well known illusionist, unfortunately mauled and nearly killed during a performance using a white tiger.)
Be advised: wild animals and weather/lightning will do what they do, regardless of your expectations.
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by AC2Q on September 9, 2008
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KB9CRY-baby writes:
Wrong, wrong, wrong....a properly designed and installed grounding system containing all 5 basic elements, using good devices, proper bonding materials and connections will always shunt strike energy to ground and not into your shack.
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Horse Hockey. A lightning strike is on the order of 50
MILLION volts and 100K amps.
http://www.wisconsinpublicservice.com/farm/lightning.aspx
Even if you spend the CONSIDERABLE $$$ to shunt 99.999% to ground (quite a feat BTW) that still leaves 50KV @ 100A. More than enough to send you and your radio to the promised land.
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by WA3SKN on September 9, 2008
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Good article!
Perfect?... NO! Good?, yes... just like some "grounding systems".
If it keeps one person from doing something "STUPID" its well worth it!
73s.
-Mike.
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by AD4U on September 9, 2008
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I just have to add this:
If you want to built a legal limit amp and you have to get on the ELMERS column to ask how to build a 5000 volt power supply and where to locate a schematic diagram of an amp, etc, I think you should just buy an amp for now and build one later on.
Dick AD4U
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by AB7E on September 9, 2008
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CRY and RAF are delusional if they think that the effects of anything as powerful or capricious as lightning can be mitigated 100% by whatever we do. Don't get me wrong ... I've tried to incorporate every good bonding and grounding practice I can think of in my own system, and I have more money invested in copper for grounding than I do in my multiple runs of Heliax. I just don't expect perfect protection from it.
Doing a Google search on "positive lightning" brings up dozens of links to some pretty scary information. They happen less than 5% of the time, but at a billion volts and 300,000 amps they have orders of magnitude more energy than normal lightning and I can't imagine any shunt system providing protection from one of them.
http://www.srh.noaa.gov/jetstream/lightning/positive.htm
During local storms, or when I'm trying to operate on 160m or 80m, I often monitor the lightning map for the U.S. on the Intellicast website. It presents positive and negative strikes in different colors, and the positive ones show up fairly often even though they are a small percentage of the total.
http://www.intellicast.com/Storm/Severe/Lightning.aspx
When it comes to safety around lightning, preparation and arrogance don't mix well.
Dave AB7E
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by KE7CDV on September 9, 2008
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K5END,
Interesting analogies, but I don't really think they're all correct representations of what their "sayers" believed: Steve Irwin never suggested that what he did was entirely safe, just that it was a risk he was willing to assume. Same with Siegfried & Roy (and unlike the sting ray -- which presumably was intending to harm Irwin to protect itself -- Roy believed the tiger was actually trying to protect him, not realizing of course that people aren't as sturdy as tigers). Finally, even with Timothy Treadwill, he (and his girlfriend) were killed by grizzlies that they hadn't ever seen before and interacted with -- not the ones they'd spend years with and had spent years living with.
Hence, while your point that nothing is predictable is well taken, it's a disservice to the memory of those cited as examples to distort the circumstances of their deaths.
---Joel
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by K7JQ on September 9, 2008
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In any way, shape, or form...great article! If it instills extra caution and safety to save even one life, it's worth the post and the reading. Anyone that contradicts the articles' content just likes to provoke unnecessary controversy.
To Ke7CDV: If you play with fire, you're eventually gonna get burned!
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by K5END on September 9, 2008
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Joel,
Point taken.
My intent with the examples (not meant to be analogies) may have been misunderstood.
MY subtle point is that the deceased and the surviving illusionist knew the risks, but yet were naively over confident in their skills, or believed that their skills could save them. It is too easy to follow the "so far, so good" habit.
The examples apply to anyone who believes he can build a site that (direct quote) "will ALWAYS shunt strike energy to ground and not into your shack."
Again, I want to say that N1OU's article is SUPERB.
I would not change anything about it. He has submitted this article with admirable intentions, and did so out of concern for our safety, which I assume would include even the flamers!
73
LK
BTW, the documentary I saw indicates no one knows exactly which bear(s) killed Treadwell.
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by K5END on September 9, 2008
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Sorry, meant to include the point that neither Irwin nor Treadwell were animal trainers or were recognized by the scientific community as animal behaviorists.
Their biggest danger was within themselves, regardless of the rationalization that has been done about "why" they were attacked, or what unusual circumstances led to the attack.
The unusual circumstances are part of the overall equation. This is what people do not get, and they place themselves in peril (lightning included) because they do not understand.
I'll expect that none of the advocates of the perfectly safe lightning site is a physicist or electrical engineer.
The parallel between these should be obvious.
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by W9PMZ on September 9, 2008
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lightning, tsunami's, earthquakes, typhoons, hurricanes, tornados, blizzards, and on
mitigate all you want
but in the end i think mother nature in the end will eventually win....
(unless you are algore.....)
73,
carl - w9pmz
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by KB9CRY on September 9, 2008
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CRY and RAF are delusional
You all can keep your heads in the sand if that make you feel safer...
personally, I've incorporated all the 5 basic elements of a properly designed and installed lightning grounding system at my QTH and I've been wacked numerous times and all my equipment keeps on ticking.
So...either I'm really lucky but never have won the big lottery.....or....I'm doing things the right way.
Those who say that it can't be done are the same who say it can't be done with no personal experience to back it up.
IT CAN BE DONE, but you need to do it correct and with proper components, all properly bonded together.
For many, this may be too much to handle and that's not a knock against those folks (sheep). They are not meant to lead. Some are Sheepdogs and are meant to lead.
Sri to cross posts. Phil
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by W4LGH on September 9, 2008
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Yes there ARE many things you can do to protect yourself, and equipment from lightning, MOST of the time.
Nothing is 100%...therefor the margin of error WILL exist.
Actually the word GROUND is NOT a good word, as you can NOT GROUND anything. What you are doing is tying everything together to keep everything at the same potential. If everything stays at the same potential, no harm will be done. The damage is done with the difference in potentials. This is why a bird can sit on 100KV line without harm, he is at the same potential as the wire.
There is NO sure cure, and if you truly believe you have it, you are only fooling yourself. You may have been lucky in the past, and you may continue to be lucky in the future, but good planning and design does Help!
73 de W4LGH - Alan
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by K0ACP on September 9, 2008
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Great article - with the right amount of humor injected -- shaken not stirred.....
As an EE who took a few nuke classes for fun, when working with technology, it is best to wear both belt and suspenders, think of all glasses as half empty with cracks in the side, measure (calculate) twice and cut once, and treat all wires as being HOT.
Thanks for the reminders, it was both enjoyable and entertaining.
Thanks for sharing.
73
Art
K0ACP
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by N0AH on September 9, 2008
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Flamers?? Playoffs??? Playoffs???????
Just make sure you have some help on stuff. I paid $100 for a tree cutter truck to put my Cushcraft D3W rotatable dipole on. Best 15 minutes I ever paid for........that puppy was up and running in no time- seriously, see my QRZ.com photo!!!!!
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by K5END on September 10, 2008
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Don't forget the Darwin ballot. Sometimes it takes a while to get elected.
:-)
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by K1CJS on September 10, 2008
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"And yes a direct strike will do pretty much any damn thing it pleases, no matter what you do. All you can do is cajole the joules to where you want them."
Darn right. Those who've been hit by a direct strike KNOW what damages can happen. The charge from a lightning strike goes where IT wants, not where you want it to. The best that can be done is to provide a path that 'looks' better to that charge than any other. And even then, its a tossup. Those who claim they've been directly hit and have suffered no damage have NOT been directly hit.
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by K1CJS on September 10, 2008
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"Ever since then, I've mainly tinkered with DC powered stuff. AC gave me a fright I will never forget...."
I know you're aware that AC is safer than DC is, especially with higher voltages--but just a reminder: Higher voltage AC will give you a shock, but it won't 'grab' you and hold you like higher voltage DC will.
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by N1ERF on September 10, 2008
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DC is just as dangerous as ac. 25 Amps from a DC
supply across a wedding ring makes a good cauterizing
skin remover. Even though you might not get hurt on
low voltage/current projects, you can still do damage
to the item you are working on (shorting out something).
General (common sense) tower safety should be included
in this article too.
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by K5END on September 10, 2008
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quote, "Higher voltage AC will give you a shock, but it won't 'grab' you and hold you like higher voltage DC will. "
Actually it can, and 60 Hz will get you, and can paralyze your heart muscle.
Unless the frequency is above that to which the neuromuscular system will respond, your muscles will contract.
At higher voltages (allowing sufficient current,) paralysis is not the concern, because the blood in the tissues will boil, become steam, and the expanding pressure from the steam will disintegrate whatever extremity has become part the terminal connecting you to the circuit. That is what blows a tree apart during a lightning event.
At higher frequencies, the concern will be over cooking your flesh, aka "RF burns."
Large, low-voltage batteries (such as those in Telco C.O.s) also present a significant shrapnel hazard in the event a wrench or other conducting tool is dropped across the terminals, even if it is only across a 2-volt cell.
Any current through an inductor from a low voltage source can present a much higher spike voltage when the current is interrupted. Either read Faraday's law or P on a spark plug sometime, and you will "believe."
Bottom line, there is no safe way for you to become part of the circuit.
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by K5END on September 10, 2008
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Here are two examples of how AC power can be lethal by paralysis. Yes, AC "can" lock you into place, involuntarily.
There was a recent, tragic event where 4 kids died by electrocution when they entered a public water fountain. The AC lighting system was not wired to code, and had no GFCI. The "hot" lead had shorted and welded itself to the submerged junction box.
Initially, one girl went into the fountain and succumbed. Three more kids attempted to rescue her and were paralyzed also.
The kids had been presented with a voltage gradient between the locations of their feet and thus fell involuntarily. They were unable to stand up, their breathing was paralyzed and their arms were drawn involuntarily against their torsos into a "boxing" position. It took more than 15 minutes before anyone could find a way to disconnect the power. The cause of death was electrocution (and not drowning.)
Thomas Edison reportedly advocated DC power distribution and was adamantly opposed to AC power.
He attempted to sway the public opinon by stating that AC is much more dangerous than DC (when in reality AC vs. DC is not the determining factor.)
Some books say that he went around the country vaudeville style, electrocuting dogs in AC power danger demonstrations to prove his point.
History says that he was asked to design the power supply for the first electric chair, which kills by paralyzing the breathing and cardiac muscles, and may have seen this as an opportunity to spread misinformation nationwide.
Westinghouse built AC generators, but got wind of Edison's apparent motive. They would not sell him an AC generator, and one was purchased instead through a third party.
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by KI2K on September 10, 2008
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Let's see if I can get this right- I think in these forums you're supposed to respond like this when someone takes the time to put together sincere, well-thought out effort:
- You sir, are a fear monger!
- How dare you give examples of how people have or can hurt themselves? You are NOT an ambassador for ham radio!
- You have single-handedly wiped out ARRL's efforts to promote amateur radio in the greater _________________ (insert your city) metropolitan area!
- Oh you rat-fink... thanks to you, all of the anti-radio legions out there now have a fresh arsenal of information to use in their efforts. Thanks to YOU.
- I don't agree with every nit-picky thing you have to say, therefor you suck as a writer and should never be published anywhere, nor should any of your decedents, anyone they know, or their dog groomers. Shame on you.
- If you'd bother to actually learn about amateur radio the way I know about it, you'd get an EZ-Hang slingshot and never have to worry about safety again. Your magnet would be stronger, there'd be an impenetrable cone of safety around all you do in radio, and you could literally pour water on high-voltage lines for fun and profit. Your hair would stop thinning, your bank account would be fatter, and you'd be more popular with the XYLs! Until you get an EZ Hang, don't bother trying to write about safety.
- No other young person anywhere will ever pursue amateur radio because of your reckless, brutally evil words about safety. You have done in the hobby- I hope you're happy!
All foolishness aside- good article,Gordon- and thanks for taking the time, and ignore those out there in forum land that have nothing better to do than appoint themselves as "prose cop", "the only voice that counts", and "chief editor and know-it-all of all topics and written words on the planet".
73
KI2K
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by N1OU on September 11, 2008
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Wow! I never expected so many comments. Thanks to all who participated in this thread of comments -- its been an interesting "discussion" (at least most of it).
For all who want to reprint, feel free to do so. Be safe, be a good Elmer when you can, and have fun!
73
Gordon
N1OU
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by N6HPX on September 15, 2008
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I agree with much of this and despite all our best efforts to provide the safety tips like those posted here and else where we still manage to lose good Hams. I been sailing on ships for 31 years and even in my job they post warnings of dangerous items. Unfortunately we lost some good shipmates despite it.
Over on Guam I lost 2 shipmates when the manlift they was riding in tilted the wrong direction tossing the 2 inside to there deaths and it was at 100 ft. The other one was a close friend of mine who was working on a live electrical circuit breaker board when something touched the power lines inside and was hit by a powerful fireball the killed him about 4 day later. These guys were all proofessionals and worked on these every day.
Just remember when in doubt ask a fellow ham who has done it before what to do and what to expect.
73's to all
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by KI4CRA on September 17, 2008
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Gordon,
First off I would like to thank you for a well written and informative article. I too am going to print this article one copy for myself and another will go to our next club meeting. Kudos to you sir!
Meanwhile, back to the article at hand. I too ground EVERYTHING, and I do mean everything, but, here in Vero Beach, Fl. we get our fair share of electrical storms. So, if a storm is approaching, I disconnect the coax, then ground the ends, next I disconnect all my equipment from the AC, yea I should probably move the equipment, but by the time I've disconnected everything,ie grounds strap from rigs, tuner, amp, I'm about worn out. Knock wood, even before I started disconnecting devices I would disconnect the coax, I have never taken a direct hit. Yea my tower is grounded, as is all my equipment, do I have an ideal setup as far as grounding goes? Not by a long shot, pure dumb luck on my part, but I am grounded an take standard procedures when ever there is a storm in our area.
A very good friend of mine who has been a ham for 50 yrs just got zapped at his QTH. HE took a direct hit, not only did it do a number on his household, but his shack which is located some 100-150 from his house took the hit also. Something to the tune of 10-15K worth of damage. Everything he had in his shack was grounded, I have been in his shack many times, his grounding was first class all the way. So, yea mother nature can be a real bitch at times.
So to all, do your level best to take all safety precautions, be it grounding, antenna party, towers what have you. Put your head on a swivel, keep your eyes and ears open, be safe and life will be good.
Gordon, again great article, enjoyed it, and this is going into my note book to read and reread, hope to work you one day soon.
73 de Mark
AI4HO
Formerly KI4CRA
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by KG6WLS on September 19, 2008
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The other one was a close friend of mine who was working on a live electrical circuit breaker board when something touched the power lines inside and was hit by a powerful fireball the killed him about 4 day later. These guys were all proofessionals and worked on these every day.<
::Larry, glad to see some post from you again and hope all is well. Sorry to hear that you lost a shipmate. By chance (and I'm only asking because I don't know), do maritime electricians follow the same guidelines of the NFPA 70E like we do here on land? Was he suited up with arc-flash gear?
73
KG6WLS
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No Mike he wasnt suited at the time except for the Safety Gloves he was wearing and what happen was he was changing out the power breakers to the mains on the ship and something fell between the main bust boards and hit the wires going down, which caused a arc on the system. The ship started to lose power and the unfortunate part that killed him was when 2 generators cut in at the same time and started to retalliate. They were trying to bring back the power which is what they were designed to do.
As the man stood up and started to back away from it he was hit straight on by a hug white fire ball and it burned his entire body. He was escorted out by the 2nd engineer and all his clothes were gone and what wasnt was still burning. You could count to 5 and the room was full of smoke. I was one of the rescuers at the time and was out side the door when he came out. He died 5 days later from cooked lungs.
73's Mike and Gang
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by KG6WLS on September 19, 2008
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Larry-
Well, I’m sorry once again to hear that happened to a fellow shipmate and a “brother” electrician as well, and that you had to witness it. Dealing and working with lethal voltages for the past 25 years, we/I can’t take things for granted just because of our experience/s. I consider my self lucky over the years that this has not happened to me, or to any of my co-workers. We’ve all had a game plan on how we approach things and work together with safety in mind. I’d rather secure ALL power sources than risk the loss of a life of myself and others. A few moments without electrical power (with the exception to hospitals, patient care, etc.) is not the end of the world when it comes to someone’s life. It’s just an inconvenience to the others that wouldn’t know any better.
Not to be smug or condescending in this serious matter but, it sounds as if the individual’s luck ran out. Safety gloves are just not enough protection when working on live (energized) equipment and it’s only to protect the hands. Had he been suited up to NFPA 70E standards, he’d most likely still be with us. However, since I’ve never worked on a ship before, I’m just guessing that this was a confined work space. With that being said; the likelihood of surviving such an instantaneous blast would be near fatal even if he was suited up with arc flash gear.
I’m sure that your shipmates have safety meetings (tailgate safety) and such. This unfortunate occurrence would be in the step in the right direction for a safety training/meeting topic in the future to protect you and others on board. A few hundred dollars for arc flash gear, and the paperwork to expedite, is less hassle than re-living a catastrophic moment by filing an incident report.
These safety tools are out there and should easily be available. Don’t let YOUR luck run out.
73
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by N6HPX on September 19, 2008
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I agree with you there Mike the point to all of this is as pointed out by some other articles its usually the professional who has years of experience that will be doing most of the work on equipment. And in this case it caused the Navy to step back and re-exam this as we now have this in our safety program as to what happen. Despite he had a electrical articles around him. The bad part the whole system was still alive. He even had 3 supervisors nearby to work with him a First engineer and 2 second engineers who should have known better. All of which quit the MSC company I work for. This happened in 1989 when Subic bay shipyard was still around.
He lasted 5 days and was sent to Clark airbase to stablize and was airlifted by Medivac to the burn center in Texas before dying which was before they touched down at Hickam AFB here in Hawaii.
I was one of 2 on scene to escort him out and I was also one who put him on the stretcher to lift him off the ship. The whole front panel of the switch board had melted from the heat.
The moral of it is never do it unless you really know what your doing and those so called man lifters get the experience there too. Get trainning as it can kill you fast. The 2 gents were catapulted 100 ft to there deaths.
73's from Hawaii and de Larry, n6hpx/mm
by the way just been to Kure and Midway Island about a week ago. Drat no radio.
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