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Abandoned Antennas and Radio Sites

George White (KD7YVV) on December 18, 2008
Website: http://www.abandonedbutnotforgotten.com/nrl_satellite_facility.htm
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Looking at abandoned places has always been a favorite hobby of mine.
Recently, I was on the web when this URL caught my eye.

http://www.abandonedbutnotforgotten.com/nrl_satellite_facility.htm

I was wondering if there were other abandoned places like this around the USA.
Any place abandoned with an antenna would be interesting to look at.
I tried to make out some of the equipment in the pictures but it looked all broken up.

The following are hypothetical questions.
If you could, what equipment would you fix or restore?
What ham equipment would you hook up to these antennas?
What would you listen for?

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by G7MRV on December 18, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
I love to look around 'derelicts' as they are known over here. Abandoned buildings have fascinated me since i was a child (many disused houses and factories where i lived)

The trouble with scavenging from them is twofold - firstly, someone still owns them! and second, they can be very dangerous places!

So, hypothetically then - any antennas that will work or convert to ham bands of course. Any mast/tower hardware, any high grade coaxial cables. Other than that, i would probably try and take everything!

I have an advantage - i work for a big telecoms and broadcasting company, we dont have any abandoned sites, but we are doing a big refit and theres old kit being removed. Ive already scavenged three collinears!
 
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by G7MRV on December 18, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
This is an abandoned comms site here in the UK that i have visited

http://www.subbrit.org.uk/rsg/sites/s/stenigot/index.html

the chain home tower is still in use though. THis site was part of SHAPEs 'Ace High' forward troposcatter network, supposedly meant to relay messages from iceland down to greece in the event of WW3! The dishes are concrete


on your site, there looks to be a lot of expensive panel meters! i bet those would make you a few $
 
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by EC158 on December 18, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Just driving around I have found many "abandoned" antennas. Many are old HAM/CB antennas on residential structures. I have stopped and asked if they would like them removed and occasionally I would get a "yes". The result was many a good antenna to be used/sold, and also a few towers that the resident wanted removed. Not a bad way to get a free tower if you have the means to take it down and remove it from the property.
 
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by KC8WUC on December 18, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
As a blacksmith, I am always on the look out for scrap metal I can use and, up until recently, have had to compete with "professional" scrappers who regularly "shop" the devil strip/tree lawns of NE Ohio and have even turned to breaking into foreclosed homes for copper pipe and wiring. As far as going onto other people's property, I have been very hesitant to do so for the purposes of retrieving usable/serviceable parts for antenna. I have routinely walked along abandoned railroad tracks/sidings in search of railroad spikes and odd pieces of metal for the purpose of forging into knives or other utensils and occasionally been chased off by the police or property owners who lived nearby. I had an occasion to go out to a former AM station, complete with an antenna farm in search of metal. Unfortunately, I found that it was really more trouble than it was worth to try to recover/reclaim anything that could be made into an antenna. This station was an old AM station with four antenna that had long since been abandoned by the owner (I believe that they had to redirect their signal because they shared a frequency with a clear watt station because there were four antenna in a row. I was very disappointed when I found that the antenna site was rather remote and difficult to get to, either on foot or car and decided that I wasn't able to retrieve anything without either drawing unnecessary attention to myself or bringing in some serious demolition equipment (e.g., plasma torch, cut-off saw, heavy duty truck). Although I didn't leave with any parts or metal, I did find what turned out to be a more significant treasure: a remnants of a 1940's era broadcasting booth at the former station (which I believe was WHKK, now WHLO). The antenna farm was very much intact and and probably stood there for 20-30 years undisturbed, despite the fact that it was clearly visible from the highway. Feeling a sense of guilt for having intruded upon this historic site, I didn't feel that I should join the throngs of people that regularly take pieces of history for their own collection, leaving what couldn't be carried off in a shambles. Occasionally, I have a fleeting sense of regret, although this is also tempered by knowing that I wasn't arrested.

Scrapping, while a more economically feasible means to build a station (or supplement an income), is not only illegal, but also dangerous and destroys the historic value of the property.

73's

Michael KC8WUC
 
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by KY6R on December 18, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
I used to drive by an abandoned radio station - KRE - on my way to work every day. Luckily, caring people have turned this old veteran of the AM dial into an interesting museum:

http://www.californiahistoricalradio.com/KREHistoric.html

And KPH:

http://www.radiomarine.org/kph-proj.html

Hams have been instrumental in preserving such fascinating places. They end up being some of the most interesting (non tourist trap) places to visit in the SF Bay Area.

When you walk into these places - you just feel the history. A non-radio "living history museum" that many tourists miss completely is the Hyde Street Pier. I can go there in the middle of the summer and not feel that I am in the crushing crowd (they are over at Fisherman's Wharf looking at "faux history" and too busy buying T-shirts).

I haven't been to KRE - but should join as a member and help them out (my 2009 "new thing to do" plan). But I was awe struck at KPH and then when I visited the light house at Pt. Reyes and also the antenna farm in Bolinas (still a Coast Guard operation).
 
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by KB2DHG on December 18, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
YEP! Some of these sites are interesting to see for sure.
I also like to visit old places and buildings, As a Building Inspector I get many opertunities to explore these places.
 
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by WB4TJH on December 18, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
One real danger of wandering around abandoned homes and buildings is the likely hood of meeting up with unsavory characters. Bums and thugs also like to frequent such places. Just be careful, and go with a friend or two. I have been in abandoned houses in my news career that were a sea of thousands of used hypodermic syringes. Drug addicts often use them for "shooting galleries". I have seen abandoned houses where the floor was almost totally covered with them.
 
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by N3OX on December 18, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
I just kind of want to load up the Russian Woodpecker's antenna array and use it:

http://www.artificialowl.net/2008/12/abandoned-giant-duga-3-system-antenna.html

 
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by W5GNB on December 18, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
A few years ago I had found a 400-FT abandoned tower site on a hilltop out in the desert about 15-miles from my home that I always thought would make a terrific repeater site.

One day I decided to check it out and found the owner of the property through the Breau of Land Management and contacted them. The deal was that I can do anything I want with the facility as long as I let them know when the Propane tank is getting low on fuel.....They do anything that needs to be done to maintain the tower and property upon my request.

They even signed a "user-lease" over to me for 99-years or the life of the site, I pay just $1 per year to make the lease agreement legal.

How is that for just a phone call???

And YES, it IS a terrific repeater site !!

HIHIHIHI>..

73's
Gary - W5GNB
 
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by K3AN on December 18, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Do any of you remember about 15 years ago when Sprint had an ad campaign where they blew up a microwave transmission tower because they were going all fiber optic? Well, they only blew up one. The others were sold, and Sprint employees had first shot at buying them. I knew a guy who bought one in a farm field with the intent of salvaging and selling the free-standing 150' tower and the electronics in the hut. Turns out the tower was galvanized steel, and the scrap value was less than the cost of taking it down and hauling it away.

In this day and age of internet-connected remote ham stations, maybe he's turned it into a remote contesting and DX super station.
 
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by N7YA on December 18, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
If you run across any old antennas, you might want to give them a good close look before running any power to them. Test them, etc...wouldnt want to ruin any rigs.
 
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by KC0RBX on December 18, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Thanks for the russian wood pecker link, N3OX!! I remember hearing that signal when I was a kid on my National NC-125. I had heard that the term was the Russian wood Pecker and that it was for "Spying". I didn't know, I was a kid and we didn't have the internet then. Cool pics on that site.
I got into a different hobby because of my fascination with abandoned sites, metal-detecting and treasure hunting. The biggest thing to remember about exploring these types of sites is to do a little research and get permission first. It goes a long way to preserve the good name of our hobbies.
 
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by KC9AKB on December 18, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Still one of my favorite sites. Was used as a pirate radio location.

Shivering Sands Forts
http://subterrain.org.uk/maunsell/part3.html
 
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by KF4LVC on December 18, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
WHAT A SCREAMING, CRYING SHAME!

It always breaks my heart to see facilities like this that have been totally abandoned... especially with equipment still installed inside the housing/shelter/building/etc.

The sad truth, I have found, is that when a company (or government department) no longer has a need for something, they typically relegate it to a "derelict" status. Sometimes, the item (transmitter site, ship, etc) is auctioned off and the new owner will scrap everything. In the case of transmitter sites, usually this means the new owner will bulldoze everything and put up a new commercial transmitter; and new owners of ships/tanks/etc will make a profit on the scrap metals contained within. At least in these cases the old site or item will make way for something new.

However, with abandoned sites like the one you point out in your post, I feel that there is some kind of sin involved in allowing this transmitting site to become some kind of "hang-out" for degenerates.

If I knew of such a site and could gain access, I would find out who is the current owner (if any) and I would then approach the appropriate local government officials to find out if I could take any action to legally acquire the site under the grounds that it had clearly been abandoned. The caveat may be that the shelter and antennas are on a site where the property is leased. However, I would think that any property management company (or individual) really wouldn't care about lost revenue if they allowed the site to become abandoned. At any rate, I would certainly look into trying to get the site.

A site like this has great commercial benefit, and also has great appeal as a ham site. One could allow local groups to locate repeaters in the shelter, and only ask that they help keep the power on. Also, if access is not an issue, this could be a great "club house" or a great site for experimenting with antennas & RF projects. It looks like there would definitely be some cleaning up and TLC needed for any of these endeavors, but I bet some of your local ham buddies and few gallons of paint would get the process started nicely. I would imagine that if there is a property manager, he would most likely not ask for money if he could be made to understand it was for non-profit, emergency/homeland security purposes. As long as some one could maintain the facility and grounds, I would think that would at least be better than the current situation!

If I could gain ownership of such an abandoned site (without paying big $$$ for it), I would snatch it up and find some way to make it useful again. As for the equipment inside, depending upon the condition and wether it could be used or modified for ham radio... otherwise I would disassemble what I could and clear out the racks/cabinets. Maybe some of the internal parts could be repurposed, but the cabinets surely can.
 
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by K1CJS on December 18, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Agreed, it is a crying shame! However, in this, our 'throw-away' society, what else could we expect?

Vandals get into everywhere these days, nobody has any respect for 'private property', and the site owners obviously don't care one way or the other what happens there.

The only thing I would expect is that the county or the township would go in there and close things up so there weren't any 'accidents' that take lives--or fires that may well engulf the entire area. These days such action by town, city or county officials isn't very likely to happen.

 
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by KC8WUC on December 18, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
The site that I previously mentioned was acquired by the City of Akron when they purchased the surrounding property (the former Ascot Race Track) and turned it into an industrial park. As it stands today, only two towers remain (and are lit), sans the broadcast booth, cinder block building, and transmitter. I don't know if the remaining antennae are being used, but I've been told that at some point during the 1970's or 80's that they were used as a backup for a commercial radio station and possibly served as towers for local business band FM radio service.

With regard to acquiring use of "vacant" facilities, good luck. I have seen several monolithic communications towers operated by AT+T as part of their long distance telephone service and, reporteldy, microwave communications for network television, and after finding one near where I used to live, I became curious and sought to use this for amateur radio. This particular tower appeared to be very well constructed and for all practical purposes, abandoned, having no signs of anyone having attempted to access the tower or even go out onto the surrounding property. That is, until I contacted AT+T's property manager, American Tower, that I was interested in using it for our amateur club's repeater antenna. Since then, the tower has been sold to Verizon and proliferated with cell phone antennas.

Abandoned sites are interesting places to explore, and I admit to enjoying "above ground spelunking", going into abandoned building and structures just because I can. This is, as other posters to this site have said, something with it's own set of risks and dangers. Caveat abound.

73's

Michael KC8WUC
 
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by KC8WUC on December 18, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
The site that I previously mentioned was acquired by the City of Akron when they purchased the surrounding property (the former Ascot Race Track) and turned it into an industrial park. As it stands today, only two towers remain (and are lit), sans the broadcast booth, cinder block building, and transmitter. I don't know if the remaining antennae are being used, but I've been told that at some point during the 1970's or 80's that they were used as a backup for a commercial radio station and possibly served as towers for local business band FM radio service.

With regard to acquiring use of "vacant" facilities, good luck. I have seen several monolithic communications towers operated by AT+T as part of their long distance telephone service and, reporteldy, microwave communications for network television, and after finding one near where I used to live, I became curious and sought to use this for amateur radio. This particular tower appeared to be very well constructed and for all practical purposes, abandoned, having no signs of anyone having attempted to access the tower or even go out onto the surrounding property. That is, until I contacted AT+T's property manager, American Tower, that I was interested in using it for our amateur club's repeater antenna. Since then, the tower has been sold to Verizon and proliferated with cell phone antennas.

Abandoned sites are interesting places to explore, and I admit to enjoying "above ground spelunking", going into abandoned building and structures just because I can. This is, as other posters to this site have said, something with it's own set of risks and dangers. Caveat abound.

73's

Michael KC8WUC
 
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by KL7AJ on December 18, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
What a great topic.

At Clear Air Station, they kept most of the old BMEWS Radar as a historical monument. (We did get a few of the old Klystrons at Hipas). However the organ pipe scanner room is absolutely fantastic. What an astounding piece of hardware that is! I figure it would be a great place to shoot a James Bond movie in!

There were only three of these organ pipe scanners made in the world....the one here at CLEAR, the one at Filingdales, England, and Thule, Greenland. The other two sites have been thoroughly demolished. :(

But, of collectable items.....I'd say the miles upon miles of 430 MHZ waveguide....the size of heating duct....has to take the cake!

BMEWS was a 6 billion dollar project in 1961 dollars. You can SEE where the money went in this place. Magnificent craftsmanship all around. I'm glad they preserved most of it.


Eric
 
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by AI2IA on December 18, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
I think that Eric,KL7AJ, has captured the essence of the best ideas. Old radio sites turned into museums offer the opportunity of curiousity and inspiration to people of all walks of life, especially to the young. Modestly equipped museums with photos of the past and hands-one exhibits along with volunteer guides can bring good will, inspiration, and education to the general public. Old sites can be gathering places for radio related clubs, too.

Granted all of this takes time, dedication, and money, but like all historical and educational projects, the rewards are difficult to measure, but they are real and substantial. Preservation of the past is the best investment in creativity for the future, and such projects are deserving of our support.
 
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by W4VR on December 18, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
If you like junk and/or used articles go to http://gsaauctions.gov/gsaauctions/gsaauctions/ and place your bid.
 
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by KE4MOB on December 18, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
I lucked out and was able to buy (for the price of $500) an old microwave relay site from American Electric Power a couple of years ago. It sits at 1000 feet HAAT, came with a transmitter building, two 40 foot masts, one acre of mountaintop and electric service to boot.

Now I have my own repeater, Field Day, and retirement cabin site all in one!!

It really pays to do your research on these facilities. A lot of times, some of the site owners don't even know they own the sites, and when you point it out, they will ask "So...you want to buy it? We don't need it." At least that's how it was for me.
 
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by KD6CPA on December 18, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Near Dixon CA are a few abandoned sites with an old VOA HF station, an AT&T HF marine station and Naval comm station.

I've always thought a bunch of hams should get together and buy unused property and develop it as a "ham friendly" residential subdivision, we'd have monster antennas that we could share already in place.

CC&Rs there could be good thing!!!

http://www.bobgowa.net/Dixon__California_HF_statio.php
 
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by W7KKK on December 18, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
I noted a home that appeared to be abandoned and was having some work done on it by a contractor.
It turned out that the contractor had bought the home for an investment and was fixing it up.
I noted it had a tower and beam and he wanted it out of there.
A friend and I took it down and got a 60 crank up tower, a 3 element Mosley beam and a Ham IV rotor.
As we were leaving the guy came out and said "hey, we found this thing in the closet and I think it goes with what you have". It was the control box for the rotor and cables for it.
It does not hurt to ask sometimes.
 
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by KD7YVV on December 18, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
There's an abandoned house in NJ, that has 2 solar
panels on it. The place looks to be a mess and has
a couple of old XT era computers within.
There is also water in the basement, but it's an interesting
place. I like the fact that some of these places
exist and can be explored on the web. Safer that way.
Still though, I wouldn't mind a nice site on a hilltop
with a huge tower and antenna....CQ CQ CQ DX!

--KD7YVV, Kirkland, WA
 
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by K9FON on December 18, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Along I 69 south of Fort Wayne there are 3 very nice tower standing on a totaly empty lot. There looks like there is a 60' and the other three are 45 footers. There used to be a double wide home but it burned back in the late 90s.
 
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by W1RKW on December 18, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
There's no mention of the SAGE radar site on Montauk Long Island, NY. That's been abandoned for decades.
 
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by N0AH on December 18, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
In 1995, I was in Granada and walked around the Red Cross building that was bombed as a military target by Uncle Sam. It had no roof, half a wall and floor. Lots of neat stuff to look at as I imagined what that night/day was like- Great contest location up high on the island- hi

Wonder what ever happened to it?
 
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by N3NUE on December 18, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
As a hunter also, those places, if safe, would make one heck of a stand for deer and predators.....wow!

John
 
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by W8EZT on December 18, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Interesting . . . . If KC8WUC is referring to the site just west of State Road (accessible via a service road next to an Ohio E-check station) where the boundaries of Akron and Cuyahoga Falls wander back and forth, I believe this is still an active AM tower site. The 2 towers are definitely still lit, and are just south of my property. There have only been two towers since I moved there (22 years ago). I haven't been on the property, so I can't comment on the existence of studio, transmitter though a Google satellite photo does show a building at the end of the service road, and what looks like a maintained path from the building to the two tower bases (underground coax feed?).

They were still active 2 years ago. I know this because I can not use my MFJ-259B to tune antennas in my back yard. The first couple of times I tried, I got totally unpredictable and unstable readings no matter what I did. Eventually I found I could actually see the modulation on the meter, and it synced with WHLO AM 640's signal. Now I pack my antennas up (when I can) and take 'em to a local park to tune them, and use SWR readings under low power to do the final tweaking.

Also I just checked the parcel and tax records, the site is currently owned by CAPSTAR RADIO OPERATING COMPANY which (I think) does business as CLEAR CHANNEL RADIO (which is the owner of WHLO).

Oh well, someone correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks and 73!
 
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by KC8WUC on December 18, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Thanks, W8EZT. I'm pretty certain that this antenna site had at least one other antenna, however, this had been taken down. The antenna was part of the original WHKK, which later became part of WHLO, which was a local news talk radio station. I don't think that in recent years this has always been an active antenna farm. The building that was there has been replaced by some type of modular structure, like those used by cell phone or telecom companies for their RF shacks. Growing up in the Akron area, I recall driving by the antenna when my father took me to the old Ascot track and also to see my grandfather at his car dealership (former Lyle Chevrolet, later Pride Chevrolet, and some other dealership) on State Road. The satelite image (from Google Earth) shows some lines running out from the tower, which is quite possibly the antenna feed line or radials. Regardless, it's unfortunate that a piece of history is gone. I'm sorry to hear that you have had so much trouble tuning in at your QTM. I experience similar problems both at my QTM and in my Jeep while driving up Cleveland-Massillon Road through Norton when I pass within two miles of Western Reserve Public Television's transmitter.
 
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by WB5ITT on December 18, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Clear Channel is the parent corp for Capstar/Gulfstar/Atlantic Star and a number of others (Citicasters, AMFM, etc) I worked for Citicasters and CC both in the 90s.
You can go to http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/amq.html and use the AM query to find out if that site is still licensed and to whom.
 
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by KT0DD on December 19, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
The Late founder of KREX TV here in Grand Junction Colorado was also the former holder of Amateur Callsign K0RX - Rex Howell. He had one of the Hy- Gain RP 100 100' tall Rotating Pole antennas which is still standing. If I had the money and property to transplant it, I would. There were very few of these made, and I understand the late Barry Goldwater also had one. It is quite an impressive looking antenna. 73. KT0DD
 
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by KC2OYH on December 19, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
I have actually been to the site you linked to. The photos dont do it justice. Abandonements are also a hobby of mine as well.
 
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by LY2KZ on December 19, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
I like this one best:
http://community.livejournal.com/ru_abandoned/601785.html
350m high tower. Amazing!
 
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by K0RGR on December 19, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
There was a fellow here in Minnesota who had a fairly good business going, removing old antennas, including ham antennas. I think, however, that I read that he was running out of prospects.

As far as old abandoned things go, the mother of a friend of mine gave me a 1920's World Atlas many years ago. The book is somewhat amazing, because it seems to show all the major highways in each state. Except, of course, that those aren't highways - they're railroads!

Now, depending on the particular line, railroads had refueling stops either 5 or 10 miles apart on each line. In most cases, those train stops consisted of small towns. The maps reveal many small towns that disappeared after the railroad no longer needed them to supply coal and water for their trains.

I've always thought it would be interesting to search for those towns. Many of them are now part of bigger towns, but many are still sitting out there, as 'ghost towns'.
 
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by DAN_TAYLOR_EX_N9GT on December 19, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Our group lucked into a similar situation. One of the guys is a electronics tech who runs his own business, and was contract maintaining a site which was owned by a paging/2-way radio company which had a nice sized building at the base of a 200 foot lighted tower. The site is located on some private property owned by another individual who apparently had some sort of lease arrangement going with the 2-way people, and sits on some very high ground within the area. There are 2 ham repeaters there, but a couple of years ago, the 2-way company abandoned the site. Long story short, through some agreements made with the former owners and the property owner, the group now owns the tower, keeps the site maintained and pay for the small amount of electricity to keep the repeaters on the air and to keep the tower lit up at night. The property owner did not want to have to deal with taking the tower down and is just content that someone is willing to take care of it. The local radio stations just weren't willing to donate any space when they could rent it and make a few bucks every month, so we feel very lucky how this all played out.
 
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by KA5ROW on December 19, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
That would be a great site to use for a radio astronomy telescope and or a EME antenna if you could use it on 144, 432, 1296 MHz. That is if you could keep the site that it is presently on. The big problem such a task would be far beyond the expense level for most ham's, club or ever just a group of guys pooling there money.
Now for old repeater sites, that would be a different story. Towers could be moved, maybe antennas and hard-line cable could be salvaged. I doubt much if any equipment would be any use except for the racks and cabinets.
 
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by K0BG on December 19, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Todd, KTØDD, I knew Rex Howell fairly well, although I never lived in Grand Junction. I've operated his station several times, and been to dinner is his Rolls more than once.

It was my understanding (maybe incorrectly), that his son-in-law was going to live in the house after Rex passed away. At the time (circa 1975), he was licensed, but perhaps he's gone too.

In any case, it brings back memories.

Alan, KØBG
www.k0bg.com
 
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by KT0DD on December 19, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
To K0BG...

Hi Alan, Rex was partly instrumental in sparking my interest in Ham Radio. I did get to meet him once when I was 12 years old. I was on my roof putting up my first CB antenna in 1974 and looked across town and saw the huge antenna. I asked my dad to take me over there so I could meet him. I introduced myself and he was more than glad to give me a tour of his station. The buildings around the antenna are gone now, However his widow still lives in the main house on hillcrest drive. He was a very nice man from my recollection. Take care Alan. 73, Todd
 
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by N2ENE on December 19, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Nice to see accounts of people acting responsibly.
 
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by WX1F on December 20, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
There is no such thing as "abandoned" vacant property. It doesn't matter how long it's been vacant, it belongs to someone and if you take anything without permission, that makes you a thief!
SOMEONE owns it, get permission!! I know if I came home from a 2 year walk across the US to find you yarding out my cobweb covered ham station gear, I would put a .45 round into your ass!
 
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by K9FON on December 20, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Much like abandoned railroad right of ways are property of the adjacent property owners. I have walked my share of rights of way and it is cool to see what once was. Many times i have found spikes, discarded ties, telephone poles some which still have wires and insulators attached. But i have always asked permission first to walk them.
 
RE: Abandoned Antennas and Radio Sites  
by KC8WUC on December 20, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
I agree that it is important to try to locate the owners of what would be abandoned property, although this is often difficult, if not impossible. I do not and will not deface or destroy property to obtain any materials, whether salvaged for re-use or for remanufacture, such as at my smithy. Property that is in disuse, unserviceable, is clearly abandoned, and has no intrinsic historical value, however, is fair game for retrieval of loose items.

Twisted pieces of scrap metal, "drops" (small pieces of cut off metal), and rusted out railroad spikes along an abandoned line, field, or siding (as in my case) or an abandoned commercial tower (as described by other posters to this blog) are in an altogether different category than a Collins or Hallicrafter in someone's house.

73's
KC8WUC
 
RE: Abandoned Antennas and Radio Sites  
by KD7YVV on December 20, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
KC2OYT:
NJ is my former home. I still have family back there.
I used to go exploring old places, and I find the
solar house to be of interest, because here you have a
piece of technology that can be put to good use.
I wonder who owns that solar house. The 2 panels
alone must be worth something.
Although I can't explore places in person like I used
to, at least I can have fun on the net doing so.
I'm sure there are places on the net where you can find
the owner of record. Doesn't the county seize property
that hasn't had taxes paid on it? As far as railroads
go, I'm a railfan and love listening in on them.
The Spirit Of Washington Dinner Train used to run near
my QTH, but they severed the track by I-405 by taking
down the Wolverton Tunnel. The track was used for a
while to move fuselages for Boeing, but I haven't seen
or heard any traffic on that line in 6 months.
There's another line that runs through Redmond.
The tracks just end. The rest of the line used to run
along the eastern portion of Lake Samammish, but
that part of the line is now a public walking and
biking trail. The tracks on that portion are long gone.
Abandoned places will always be a hobby of mine.
It's nice to see others posting pictures on the net.

--KD7YVV, Kirkland, WA

 
Abandoned Antennas and Radio Sites  
by WA3YAY on December 21, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
I can't resist these places...but I try my best. I work in the railroad business and I know of more than once instance where someone was seriously hurt because an abandoned facility was vandalized or just decayed to the point of being a hazard. On the Pennsy and Reading there are tons of old stations that had coal shutes opened by vandals and people fell in. And while the signals are being converted to fiber optics and addressable systems, there are still hot 4600V signal lines running around in places that look unused.

More than one person has died trying to get copper out of a relay box or fell through the floor from a old station.

No, I like looking as much as anyone, but the dangers lurking inside are too real to be ignored.
 
I would put a .45 round into your ass!  
by LOVEHANDLES on December 21, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
What a redneck comment. Why don't you put that gun to your own head, fool.
 
RE: I would put a .45 round into your ass!  
by WX1F on December 22, 2008 Mail this to a friend!

To: LOVEHANDLES
"What a redneck comment. Why don't you put that gun to your own head, fool"

Damn right I'm a redneck. At least I don't post comments while hiding behind a freeking daisy-sniffing alias like "Lovehandles".
 
RE: I would put a .45 round into your ass!  
by LOVEHANDLES on December 22, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
If I were a proud redneck, I would have sex with my mom, and have inbred children. I guess it is fair to surmise that you house probably looks like it's abandoned? No wonder you got defensive. Move to Russia with the rest of you neo-con looser comrades. Idiot.
 
RE: I would put a .45 round into your ass!  
by K2FOX on December 22, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
LOVEHANDLES, WX1F;

This WAS a decent thread until you both came along with all your stupid negative crap, both of you just GO AWAY!

 
RE: I would put a .45 round into your ass!  
by EC158 on December 22, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Yea, dontcha hate it when a perfectly good post gets all cluttered up with nonsense?
 
EC158 Who do we appreciate?  
by LOVEHANDLES on December 22, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Get off the fence. Pick a side, before you get a hemorrhoid.
 
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by W2DAB on December 22, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
I really would avoid this kind of exploring without some inquiries with the local property registry. I do like to read about and visit decommissioned sites. A really nice site is the Nike Missile Defense site at Sandy Hook, NJ which runs a tour in the warm months and is actually kept up nicely.

I took a wide "pano" shot which can be visited below:

http://www.bamford.net/W0DAB/Nike_Sandy_Hook.htm

73 all

David/ W0DAB
 
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by K1DA on December 22, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
When the Navy left the south end of the island I live on they took an 800 foot vertical with them but left a bunch of Collins Log antennas. For "safety sake" they cut the guys on the 100 foot double towers and dropped them. As luck would have it, though, a local radio club managed tp piece one together and set it up, rotor and all in Providence. These antennas used two towers and a rotor at the bottom with the RF being sent right up through the drive tube.(real hard line) A number of the tubes are now in use as supports for our police and fire antennas. They look like giant irrigation tube.
 
RE: Abandoned Antennas and Radio Sites  
by KL2IC on December 23, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
This reminds me of being stationed in alaska. There is abandoned stuff from ww2 until the end of the cold war everywhere. The cool sites are the remote ones where there has been little human activity.
 
RE: Abandoned Antennas and Radio Sites  
by KL7IPV on December 23, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Some places appear that they are abandoned but they are kept because they MAY want to use the towers again, or the facilities that go with the towers. AT&T has a short tower here in Las Vegas that is only used to support one dish but to tear it down would cost them dearly. If at some time in the future they wanted to place another tower, they couldn't. They are grandfathered with the one they have near the airport. So they keep it "just in case" and so they don't have to thru all the red tape a new one would require. So it is not used as it once was but not fully abandoned either. But they have a good reason.
Frank
 
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by KE4ZHN on December 25, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
I would have loved to connect a rig up to the old Bethany VOA arrays before they tore them down. Especially during solar max. I can only imagine the signals that would have resulted. I once stumbled upon a web site that showed an amateur club or small group of hams that did just that. They unfortunately did it during the last solar cycle minimum and even then the signals were awesome. What a shame that such great facilities like this have to be scrapped. When you think of all the money, resources and engineering that goes to waste its pretty sad. Times change I guess, but not always for the better.
 
RE: Abandoned Antennas and Radio Sites  
by K5MO on December 27, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Exploring abandoned places is fascinating, and I'd really have fun in this place....not taking things, but just to imagine the excitement and work that went into the place. Fun stuff. It's probably not legal, but most fun stuff isn't these days. Seems like you're more likely to be arrested exploring something nobody wants, than shooting someone.

I'd take my chances anyway.
73
John K5MO
 
RE: Abandoned Antennas and Radio Sites  
by W4CX on December 27, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Yes, a worthy hobby! And great thread. Also check out http://coldwar-c4i.net/ for some excellent work by Albert LaFrance who's been exploring active and abandonded communication facilities for at least 15 years now. Great site and great photos. thanks Albert! de Darrell W4CX
 
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by AI4WM on December 30, 2008 Mail this to a friend!
Old abandoned buildings have always been of interest to me ever since I was old enough to hike to them and enter them (Gee was that trespassing?)

It would be neat to visit old abandoned radio sites and such throughout the USA. Better yet to have them preserved.

Speaking of which http://www.radionational.org/voa_site_in_jeopardy.htm

Also for those who like to look at transmitter sites there are sites on the Russian Woodpecker site as well as Jim Hawkins site which has tons of facilities on it.
 
Abandoned Antennas and Radio Sites  
by K2JX on January 1, 2009 Mail this to a friend!

Nice post.....I've actually "hooked" up an old Heath HW-8 QRP transceiver at the old Rocky Point, L.I. receiving site then owned by I.T.T. World Communications. That was back in the late 70's when Bob McGraw W2LYH (sk) was the station manager. A few watts of RF into a 13,000 foot rhombic beaming South America was too much for the ham in South America on the receiving end to believe we "running" 5 watts !

That site,I.T.T. Riverhead, and Southampton, L.I. are long gone. WSL, Southampton, was closed down but intact when I arrived there as a county employee in 1985. The county now owns the property. All the 100 plus foot tall "poles" supporting wire arrays were standing, the control room, parts room, bunk house and generator building all in perfect condition,were later on bulldozed to dust !

I was able to wangle a few things I've saved all these years, but if any of you saw what was in that parts building that went into a dumpster, you'd cry !
Tons of heavy duty Millen & Collins RF parts, tubes, knobs, dials, you name it, gone.

The station had a bank of fairly new for the time, Watkins-Johnson MF-HF receivers, all in working condx, sat in a pile on the ground, in the snow. Well, at least I have some great pictures ! Kudos to the folks at KPH for saving what may be the last MF-HF coastal maritime station in the U.S.!

73/K2JX NNNN

 
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