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HamRadio 2009 -- Friedrichshafen 2009

Peter Vee (KH6VP) on June 30, 2009
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I participated in the HamRadio 2009 event held since yesterday at the Friedrichshafen fairgrounds.

Many, many people walked through the doors (according to some exhibitors, more than last year) although the organizers did not want to provide me with advance attendance information. This information will be made available a few days after the event and will be published in twitter at http://twitter.com/FL360.

Since pictures are worth a thousand words, I will just add captions to the photos.

The third of the fleamarket halls. Brisk business being done here.

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The second flea market also seeing many, many people. Some exhibitors said the year seems better than last year. Tomorrow's number will tell the truth.

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Old radio anyone?

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Or masses of test instruments?

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And more.....

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Even vintage radios and their tubes on show...

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and many, many spare parts to roll your own....

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...and test it (and use a model train set for entertainment while you wait for results)..

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Rows upon rows of used stuff...

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from anything to anything....

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including more test instruments...

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...and more...

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interspersed with antennas.

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and this 44meter (130 feet) self standing tower from China for the price of good Detroit muscle, $40000 to be precise.

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The lifting motor reminds me of cranes and the width of the chain is the same as my hand!

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Yaesu had new stuff such as...

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...this FT-7900....

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...this FT-1900...

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...or this FT-2900.

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Or this FT-1990.

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Kenwood just showed the AvMap...

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while nearby a series of Transverters were shown...

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...keys....(morse code is alive and well here)...

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..collapsible towers..

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Many antennas...

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While on the Icom stand...the usual Icom stuff was shown and available for playing...

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More keys (all around $240)...

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The inside of an emergency response trailer (yes that if 4 VHF/UHF radios in front of the operator).

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The ARRL booth was busy (but they were not allowed to sell anything)...

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How many flags can you see here at the club area?

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And here is the Spanish amplifier kit (6m/4m/2m/670cm and 23cm - all 500W out excet the last).

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The Italian Perseus software defined receiver (you are looking at a shiny computer screen - sorry).

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And the thousands of RV's in the park.

Good bye from Friedrichshafen. Tommorrow we shall see whether HamRadio 2009 is still#2 or moved up in front of Dayton. Check out http://twitter.com/FL360 for the latest.

73s,

Peter, KH6VP

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HamRadio 2009 -- Friedrichshafen 2009  
by GW1MCD on June 30, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
Thanks ever so much for Photographs.What a Rally.Pity nothing like this in UK these days!.
 
HamRadio 2009 -- Friedrichshafen 2009  
by VK5SW on June 30, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
After reading this article and looking at the photos, I feel as though I've been there myself. Good job.
73 - Rob - www.vk5sw.com
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RE: HamRadio 2009 -- Friedrichshafen 2009  
by N2UGB on June 30, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
Good article and crisp photos. It's Euro's biggest and best. Maybe the world's best.
 
HamRadio 2009 -- Friedrichshafen 2009  
by ON7RU on June 30, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
I attended this years hammeeting for the fifth or sixth time.
As the author writes, the number of visitor acts like the sunspots: stable or increasing.
This year was a real good version. We only missed one major reseller compared to last year....classic international. With the strong EUR/weak pound I tought to make some good deals with UK reseller KENT but german reseller WIMO had much better deals.
ex.
CG-3000 ext. tuner : 230 EUR
MFJ 259 : 259 EUR
Ameritron 5 port remote switch : 160 EUR

@ flea market a lot of russian/eastern europe surplus stuff. I picked up some vacuum condensator for very good prices.

What's mekka for the moslim, is Friederichshafen for the ham. If you plan to go make sure you make hotelreservation at least 6 months in advance...
See you there in 2010.

Frank, ON7RU
http://www.on7ru.net
 
HamRadio 2009 -- Friedrichshafen 2009  
by G3PNJ on June 30, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
Well, I did all three days at HamRadio and my feet are still reminding me - I've missed only 2 years in the last 20!!. It certainly was not as crowded as last year - there seemed to be more open space this year. But, in the past at the old exhibition centre - there you had real crowds. Sadly, the attendance seems to decline year on year. The attendance figures will be interesting. The fleamarket was excellent as usual. I got everything on my shopping list - including a very used but perfectly serviceable TR-751E for just 80 euros - a bargain....
John G3PNJ / DJ0MBK
 
RE: HamRadio 2009 -- Friedrichshafen 2009  
by KH6VP on June 30, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
The final visitor numbers were 17,400 and I think this beats Dayton, although I am not sure.
Regarding hotels, I booked two weeks before the show started through the organizers and got a room with shower at a B&B (Gasthaus) nearby for 35 euro ($45)/night, about 2km from the airport (which is on the other side of the fair grounds).
It was a great experience, and my first. Will be back next year.
73s,
Peter, KH6VP/LX1QF
 
HamRadio 2009 -- Friedrichshafen 2009  
by W8KQE on June 30, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
'Efxaristo' for the great pics and article Peter! I'd love to make it over there some day!
 
HamRadio 2009 -- Friedrichshafen 2009  
by N5TGL on June 30, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
Well done! Looks like a wonderful 'fest!
 
HamRadio 2009 -- Friedrichshafen 2009  
by TANAKASAN on June 30, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
This was my fifth year at the Friedrichshafen show and here are my highlights:

1) The Icom staff were happy, the Yaesu staff were puzzling and the Kenwood staff on the stand looked bored.

2) The weather was horrible and my tent is still drying out. We spent ten hours driving back through appalling weather.

3) The food was good, the beer was good and the staff running the exhibition center know what they are doing. Even on the Saturday it took only five minutes to get through the turnstiles.

4) Lots of bargains in the fleamarket and if you want good value be prepared to haggle in basic German or basic Italian.

5) No sleep. Most of the camp went to bed way WAY past midnight and if the farm cockerel didn't wake you up at dawn then the jets taking off at 0600 will.

6) Friendly people. We shared beer, food and stories and the camp was a real United Nations. I went round the camp on Saturday evening counting flags and car stickers and found 22 countries represented.

7) If you come bring Euro notes and coins. There is one ATM and one small bank and they seemed overwhelmed.

8) A handful of pretty girls including a spectacular blonde in a black & white outfit on one of the stands in Hall A on the Sunday.

Finally...............

9) The Hilberling PT-8000 is alive!! The project has been taken over by Telefunken and they promise to release the rig to the public by the end of the year.

Tanakasan
 
RE: HamRadio 2009 -- Friedrichshafen 2009  
by WI7B on June 30, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
ThanX for the report!

73,

---* Ken
 
HamRadio 2009 -- Friedrichshafen 2009  
by WD8DUP on June 30, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
The pictures turned out great, Peter. Glad the download worked..... It was great meeting you and seeing Daniel (DL4VCW) again.
I'm hoping that this wasn't really my last year for Friedrichshafen.....

What a great show that is. And to think I've been to this one more often than Dayton (being an Ohio farm boy and all).....
 
HamRadio 2009 -- Friedrichshafen 2009  
by N6HPO on June 30, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
Well done, Peter! The 10th photo [from the bottom up] caused me to pause. The caption under the photo says "...collapsible towers"

Are those "push-up masts" in aluminum, with the black thumb clamps?

Alan
 
HamRadio 2009 -- Friedrichshafen 2009  
by VK3DWZ on June 30, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
Thank you Peter for such a wonderful tour. I almost cried when I saw all those wonderful valve wirelesses on display.

If I was lucky enough to win the lottery, I would love to attend next years' event. Wouldn't be easy to bring all that lovely stuff back to Australia, tho'.

73',

Terry.
 
RE: HamRadio 2009 -- Friedrichshafen 2009  
by KH6VP on July 1, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
Yes, the collapsible towers are push ups.
BTW, I bought mine some years ago from a guy selling them from W9 land. He used clicks on each section, that made it easy to setup and fall-proof. I also bought a base that you park on and then you plug ther tower on it. See http://vekinis.com/AmateurRadioImages.html for samples.
The main issue with Friedrichshafen is that you must haggle when buying things. If you can't haggle, you lose. Everyone starts high and then lowers. The best day to buy is Sunday morning, when people are willing to get rid of stuff for less so they dont haul it back. Of course you only find stuff others don't want.
There were some very expensive items such as a KWM-2 for E1200 ($1600) from a German guy, and a Westinghouse receiver for E1500 ($2000) from an Italian which is too much for me. There were plenty of vintage radios from the 40s and 50s for E40 ($60) and up.
One Dutch guy showed an old, 190X receiving apparatus replica he built using mahogany wood, that used a moving metal belt creating a magnetic field inside magnets, which then converted IF into sound. Very, very interesting. U&nfortunately I didn't get his web address, but maybe there is someone with this info. It was in hall B1 or B2.
Excellent show but compared to US shows, expensive. In Europe there is VAT (Value Added Tax) on new products - 19% in Germany - which of course is not charged on second hand products.
There are additional photos at http://vekinis.com/HamRadio2009.html including an amazing linear from Slovakia (for E4500 - $6000) and a tuner from Germany (E1600 - $2400).
73s,
Peter, KH6VP/LX1QF
 
HamRadio 2009 -- Friedrichshafen 2009  
by K5YEF on July 1, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
Thanks!
 
RE: HamRadio 2009 -- Friedrichshafen 2009  
by W2RI on July 1, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
Thanks for posting !
 
RE: HamRadio 2009 -- Friedrichshafen 2009  
by WA1RNE on July 1, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
Nice job on the photo tour. Looks like a great outing.

Back in the 70's, there were some ham auctions in the Boston area - most notably the one at Honeywell - Billerica, MA (USA), but this one looks even better.

Assuming most of the instruments for sale are in working condition and can be purchased at a reasonable cost, one could outfit a decent lab for RF projects.


...WA1RNE
 
RE: HamRadio 2009 -- Friedrichshafen 2009  
by N4VNV on July 1, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
I attended this hamfest in 1983. It was already the largest hamfest in the world. Dayton was never as good as Friedrichshafen. I was a "Ham" in Germany for two years. My Call was DA2SN. I can only imagine how great it was for you. Wish I could have been there. Many thanks for the photos.
 
HamRadio 2009 -- Friedrichshafen 2009  
by N9XCR on July 1, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
Wow! The vendors did a great job on their displays! They appear to have taken the time to organize their equipment and make everything look nice. I would feel better buying from them than some of the other vendors I see at other hamfests.

Chris
N9XCR
 
HamRadio 2009 -- Friedrichshafen 2009  
by K8QV on July 2, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
I'm still waiting for one of the usual numbnuts to bring up Obama or what you did wrong. Must be a good article!

Thanks for the great photos. Wish I could be there.
 
RE: HamRadio 2009 -- Friedrichshafen 2009  
by K8AC on July 2, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
Many thanks for the article - interesting stuff. In regard to the size compared to Dayton: The highest prize ticket number I saw on the monitors on Sunday at Dayton was around 18,600 so I'll bet the attendance wasn't more than a couple hundred higher than that. In the distant past, numbers in the range of 27,000+ were commonplace.
 
RE: HamRadio 2009 -- Friedrichshafen 2009  
by AE6YB on July 2, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
Very nice article and pictures. I enjoyed your web page also, especially the aviation section. I, too am a bit of an aviation nut and spend some time listening to the aircraft. Thanks for posting this.

73, Will

http://ae6yb.tripod.com/index.html
http://myaviation.net/search/search.php?uid=8849
 
RE: HamRadio 2009 -- Friedrichshafen 2009  
by KH6VP on July 3, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
I have lots more on aviation and one day I will uploade them. But that is an additional 1GB of data! Actually, although I speak languages (English, Italian, Greek, French, German) I enjoy listening in English so listening to planes in multilingual Europe is great. When I hear a plane, I try to imagine where it is located in my mind based on its flight number (dictates general direction), its pilot voiced heading, or its waypoint, and so on. Kind of like a spatial quiz.
I used to be a pilot but gave it up when my instuctor kept drinking a beer after every training flight (in Belgium in the early 80s) and my flight was the last one for the day.
Am glad you enjoyed the website. Check out the videos (the landing videos are interesting including a hard landing on a Q400). The Mount Gabriel site in South West Ireland is another greeat place to monitor.
If you cant sleep and wake up one night at 3am, the frequencies come alive with more than 800 jets arriving from North America daily!
135.6, 132.225, 132.15 etc etc. When Concorde was operating (which I saw on the Mount Gabriel engineering radar screen), London west 132.85 was rebroadcast here so that Concorde could glide straight from the west of Ireland to London.
Take care,
Peter
PS: There a lot of info on my blog (travel) and photos of airports from the air.
73s, Peter
 
RE: HamRadio 2009 -- Friedrichshafen 2009  
by K7CB on July 3, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
That looks like a very nice Hamfest. I've never been to Dayton so I can't compare there...but I've been to many others and this one beats them hands down.

Kenwood might as well get out of the amateur radio division altogether. The amount of equipment available by them is slim. They only have two HF radios in their line up and both have been out for several years now. They used to be one of the best...in the 90s, they had a substantial line up and just about everything I owned was Kenwood. What's kind of funny is Icom was the last manufacturer I would ever consider...now, it's all I buy.
 
RE: HamRadio 2009 -- Friedrichshafen 2009  
by AB9NZ on July 3, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
Those hams on the other side of the pond sure are skinny looking. I hope they're getting enough to eat.
Thanx for the very nice article. de Tom AB9NZ
 
HamRadio 2009 -- Friedrichshafen 2009  
by K0JEG on July 4, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
Nice pictures. All the test gear reminded me of the "classic" hamfests in the DC metro area we went to in my youth. At the time there was a lot of government surplus gear available, usually sold by the pallet, and much of it ended up in Gathersburg or Fredrick.
 
RE: HamRadio 2009 -- Friedrichshafen 2009  
by ON5XX on July 4, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
Good remark Tom! I visited Dayton in 2005 and was constantly avoiding being ran over by those well fed HAM's on those Electrical trikes. It was stunning to see that they were even eating pop corn while driving and watching the radio's.
I was in Friedrichshafen last week as well and we had great fun as usual. I dont know if Dayton is bigger but I found that there was not much of a HAM atmosphere outside the show. Maybe we didn't look at the right place.In FDN the fun goes on every evening downtown. All the restaurants and campings are full of HAM,s and the nights are very short.
Good pictures and good comments.
Thanks,
Joel
 
HamRadio 2009 -- Friedrichshafen 2009  
by VA3CGT on July 4, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
Hey, I thought that place looked familiar. I was there back in June 2002, only that arena was selling antiques. Really wish I was there for the radio stuff.

Beautiful area, Friedrichshafen, on the shores of Bodensee (Lake Konstance) with the Swiss Alps across the lake. I remember that day in Friedricshafen very well. Started out that day in Frankfurt then drove to Lindau then to Friedrichshafen along the shore of Lake Konstance up to Stuttgart to visit family. Then left that night at 11:30PM and drove back to Frankfurt! I was never so tired in my life!
 
HamRadio 2009 -- Friedrichshafen 2009  
by ON5MF on July 5, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
16th time in a row i went to Friedrichshafen. Although the fair is not what it used to be. The commercial hall gets smaller and smaller over the years...

But we'll be back next year I guess.

Oh, the 44 meter tower was from Japan, not from China.
 
HamRadio 2009 -- Friedrichshafen 2009  
by XE1GXG on July 5, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
Wow!
 
HamRadio 2009 -- Friedrichshafen 2009  
by 4Z5PH on July 5, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
The monster tower on the show was Japanese, not Chinese. But what really surprised me: they sold 4 of those during the show!! At Eur 40,000 a piece! Crisis!? Where?

I have visited Ham Radio for almost every year since it started in Konstanz. It is great for spotting trends. Here are a couple:

1. The number of high power linears sold are on the increase. Preferebly automatically tuned. 160m-6m

2. Computer hardware were less visible on this year's show. (with the exception of a laptop seller) They are becoming an integral part of Ham Radio, which showed in the number of applications offered.

3. SDR, SDR! Exiting trend, probably leaving "classical" Ham Radio sellers in the dust. But see 2. it is a computer application.

4. Digi modes. Yes another computer application. But not for the majority of the hams. There was a lot, but not in the limelight. What surprised me was the number of TNC's on offer. New.

5. D-Star does not twinkle. Why? Wrong marketing concept? I don't know.

73 de Chaim/4Z5PH
 
HamRadio 2009 -- Friedrichshafen 2009  
by EA7AQV on July 8, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
Thanks a lot for showing all of us tha ham radio is alive...
Very good job!!!

Rod
 
HamRadio 2009 -- Friedrichshafen 2009  
by KI4SDY on July 8, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
Thanks for the vitual tour of a big ham event I most likely will never be able to attend. The photographs were just like being there.

I have the Yeasu FT7800R dual bander in my truck now. Great little rig and I love the instant push buttons to change frequently used channels. It keeps my mind on the road instead of the VFO!
 
HamRadio 2009 -- Friedrichshafen 2009  
by DO1YHN on July 8, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
TNX for so many good pictures from Ham-Radio 2009.
For me it was the 5th visit to Friedrichshafen.
Hope to meet all the friends again in 2010.
DO1YHN from Detmold,Germany 650 km away from Lake Konstanz.
73 de Hermann
 
HamRadio 2009 -- Friedrichshafen 2009  
by W5GCX on July 10, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
Been to Friedrichshafen a few times and this year was pretty full. Great Article.....Friedrichshafen is more "ham friendly" than Dayton. Dayton is a "back-breaker"....only the round hall to sit down. Friedrichshafen is far more organized and the flea market is inside.

73
ed
 
RE: HamRadio 2009 -- Friedrichshafen 2009  
by CE3AM on July 12, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
"What's mekka for the moslim, is Friederichshafen for the ham"

I am VERY happy to announce that UNLIKE Mekka, 23460 people did NOT die during a stampeed and other fanatic reasons during the Best hamfest in the world...
Ira.
 
RE: HamRadio 2009 -- Friedrichshafen 2009  
by VA7OJ on July 13, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
I can echo Tanaka-san's sentiments, although I had much more comfortable accommodations! The restaurant at the Expo was excellent, the coffee was first-class and I never had any trouble accessing the ATM.

For me, one of the more exciting items was that the Swiss ADAT ADT-200 direct-sampling SDR transceiver is now in small-series production.

http://www.adat.ch/index_e.html

I also saw the Hilberling announcement. Time will tell...in this era of SDR and IF-level DSP, one has to wonder how well a classical analogue design will fare, especially at that price level. The marketplace will ultimately decide.

73, Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ
 
HamRadio 2009 -- Friedrichshafen 2009  
by WB4DHC on July 14, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
Peter, Thanks for the view of HamRadio. From 2001 until 2004 I worked 1,5 KM from the Messe (in the ZF Buildings) and lived about 5 KM on the other side. Moved there from Cincinnati so was great to go from Dayton 1 year to HamRadio the next. Have also been to Dayton. HamRadio is truly international, not just European, and shows the best of Amateur Radio technology AND culture.
73, Robert
ex-DL4GRC
 
HamRadio 2009 -- Friedrichshafen 2009  
by N4FN on July 16, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
The LUSSO antenna is not made in China, but in JAPAN (thank goodness, if it was from China it would likely fall over :-)
Neil N4FN
 
HamRadio 2009 -- Friedrichshafen 2009  
by N4FN on July 16, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
The LUSSO tower is not made in China, but in JAPAN (thank goodness, if it was from China it would likely fall over :-)
Neil N4FN
 
Camping or Hotel  
by DL8OBF on July 19, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
I found the show was awesome this year, good exibition, nice fley-market, excellent talks and presentations. I found HAM-Radio is stepping up towards Dayton, probably already better on presentations ... but I still feel Dayton has more exibitors (professional and on flea-market).

But camping went worse over the past years. Previously I used to enjoy the camping nearby the exibition halls. But service and space dropped significantly, so that I decided to go for a Hotel for the first time in the past 20+ years!
 
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