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Groves, Texas Ham Radio on Water Towers Part 2:
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Published - GROVES — Groves, Texas could get world-wide publicity through an amateur radio club working to mount radio antennas atop city water towers.
Groves gets the goods for emergency communication project
The Port Arthur News (Port Arthur, Texas)
By Darragh Doiron (409-729-NEWS)
(GROVES, TX) — Groves could get world-wide publicity through an amateur radio club working to mount radio antennas atop city water towers.
The Triangle Repeater Association, a local radio club, approached city council in March about placing equipment on tall towers and Christopher Boone, a radio supporter with SETX Telecom, a local telecommunications company, called the response “overwhelming.”
“The city went above and beyond to help us in securing the building and giving us space on the water towers,” Boone said.
Boone said TRA will have radios that will transmit locally and worldwide and “publicize the city of Groves on the amateur radio bands.”
Groves City Manager D.E. Sosa said the city can use this kind of support after hurricanes and other emergencies.
Boone said the system can be used as emergency backup for public service groups. He invited interested parties to contact the group at W5APX@att.net or go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/setxham and join the free e-mail list.
A repeater is a station that retransmits signals from high locations to improve walkie talkie and mobile communications. Boone said the TRA originally existed in the 1970s supporting the original Port Arthur 146.94MHz amateur radio repeater (WA5YUS and later WR5AEX).
Local Motorola dealer Arthur Kay, owner of Kay Radio and Electronics, founded the original club in the early 1960s, and it folded in the late 1970s, as did the repeater, because of a loss of operating sites, according to Boone.
Boone, whose call sign is WB5ITT said he will guide operations of the reformed TRA and will be operating repeaters and other gear under Kay's old ham radio call sign, W5APX, now assigned to the club by the Federal Communications Commission. Boone was the last secretary-treasurer of the original TRA at age 16.
Groves city councilman Kyle Hollier said he supported the project and photographed a donated POD arrival that will be used to store equipment during installation.
Jim and Donna Wade own the PODS franchise in Beaumont and said they were honored to help.
 POD being delivered 8/19/2009 to water tower at the “Pea Patch” golf course in Groves, TX
L-R above: KD5QDO; N5STK; WB5ITT (trustee of W5APX and TRA); Donna and Jim Wade of “PODS of SETexas:; Groves, TX City Manager D.E. Sosa. Both pictures by Kyle Hollier, KE5ZQJ of Hollier Photography, Groves, TX and City Councilman for Groves .
(TRA note: The POD will eventually house a 10mtr GE MSTR II repeater transmitter, 6mtr Midland Syntech II repeater and WACOM WP604 duplexer; the duplexer donated by WB5RFK and Temple-Eastex, a backup 2mtr split site repeater covering a 400ft main site 2miles north and various link equipment/packet gear as well as storage for other sites. Eventually a Wi-Fi backbone between all 4 water towers will be added providing the city and ham gear with a wireless backbone and cameras at all tower sites for security, On another water tower 1.5 miles east, there will be the 10mtr GE MSTRII receiver, automated CW beacons on 6, 2 and 432 MHz signing “W5APX EL39BW Groves, TX” in the ID along with satellite receivers for the WB5ITT 224.5 and 444.5 repeaters (Main 220 and UHF repeater site is 20 miles to the north on a 300ft building top) and associated UHF link gear for the repeaters The water towers are rated for 300+MPH winds and stand 180ft AGL tall. Special mounts are being donated to prevent any welding to the tower and damage to the paint and other protective coatings)
Many people have worked behind the scenes to make this happen…and TRA wishes to thank the City of Groves for its very open and generous support of this project!!!
Christopher Boone, WB5ITT TRA Trustee, W5APX
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by W4KVW on November 20, 2009
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BOTH of our local repeaters are located on the city water tower here in Macclenny,Fla.(147.090 & 444.075) & the repeaters & controlers are housed in a climate controled building that houses other city owned & maintained radio gear.The city charges us ZERO as well for the use of the tower or building.This is our ONLY choice for our repeaters since the local sherrifs office removed our antennas several years ago from their MUCH TALLER communications tower for reasons they say were out of their control?
CLAYTON
W4KVW
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by NA4IT on November 20, 2009
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It's great to hear a municipality wanting to help, because they realize the benefit they could receive should disaster happen.
I am afraid the days of high level repeaters are almost gone. And varied are the reasons, some say security, some times the cost is too high, some places think amateur radio is a joke and don't want to fool with it.
It does help when EMCOMM is a driving force behind the repeater install. For an individual to put one up is tough.
A lot of places are going to lower level machines that are linked together, which does work, but amateurs have to change their thinking from using what used to be the "main" machine and start programming radios so that repeaters in a system are in near locations in memory, and then get educated as to which machine to use where.
Used to, a promise to keep up a high level site (mow, weed eat, paint the building, etc) was enough. No longer is that the case.
Our local group had those arrangements. Due to the sale of some towers, and unwillingness of the new owner to continue that deal cost us two fairly high level sites. And not only us, the new owner bought several towers in the southern states, and to those amateur repeater owners I talked to, the company kicked amateurs off almost everything they owned.
I would encourage hams every where to look for alternate sites for repeaters, and think of how you could link two or more together to cover a wider area. To many in a system is impractical, and trying to cover too wide of an area is also. But, if each group does their part for their area, then area to area can be covered by HF.
Even hams who have fairly high home QTHs can be used.
Research it well. Run computer models. Test, test, test.
And remember, what ever you agree to... GET IT IN WRITING!
Times... they are a changin'!
NA4IT
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RE: Groves, Texas Ham Radio on Water Towers Part 2:
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by W4MLO on November 20, 2009
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No biggie, our club's linked 2 Meter machine has been on the city water tower for years. Seems like an obvious choice considering the security, EM power and prime real estate elevation wise above the surrounding terrain.
Looks more like a PODS ad to me.
just my .02
73 W4MLO Milo
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Good Publicity For Ham Radio
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by KJ6BSO on November 20, 2009
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But not really anything new. The El Cajon (CA) ARC repeater is also installed on a city water tank.
www.wa6bgs.org/repeater.html
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by AD7C on November 21, 2009
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... and “publicize the city of Groves on the amateur radio bands.”
What exactly are they going to publicize?
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RE: Groves, Texas Ham Radio on Water Towers Part 2:
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by KB5ZXM on November 21, 2009
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Port "ARTOUR" is 'really' the Louisiana State Capitol <grin>
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by N5DUX on November 24, 2009
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So they're planning on using this repeater in support operations after a hurricane?!
Sure, the water tower should survive, the antennas probably will too - but I'm not too sure about a PODS structure. I think PODS is just a step up from a refrigerator box, structurally.
I'm sure some straight line winds off the next thunderstorm will help them realize *this* is the weakest link in their setup.
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by KE4DRN on November 25, 2009
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Find out who owns the towers in your area,
many owners are amateur radio friendly.
http://www.antennasearch.com/
73 james
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RE: Groves, Texas Ham Radio on Water Towers Part 2:
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by AB0WR on November 30, 2009
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"Boone said the system can be used as emergency backup for public service groups."
Has no one read the ARRL white paper: "Commercialization of Amateur Radio: The Rules, The Risks, The Issues"?
An excerpt:
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It is a narrow path between (1) utilizing beneficial opportunities for public service communications and showcasing the continued relevance and importance of Amateur Radio communications to the public; and (2) allowing organizations to exploit Amateur Radio as a cheap and flexible alternative to the Land Mobile Radio Service, General Mobile Radio Service, or Commercial Mobile Radio Service facilities.
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Putting in an amateur system that has a primary task of acting as a backup for public service systems *IS* allowing organizations to exploit AR as a cheap replacement for the LMRS.
Before *any* system like this is installed there is one basic question to ask - Am I doing this because I have a ham license and it is easier and cheaper to go that route than to actually do a professional, commercial installation using Part 90 frequencies?
Remember, before any city public servant can use this system they will either need a ham license/ham radio or a ham attached to them to follow them around. How many firemen, policemen, or city workers are going to carry around a "spare" ham HT in case their regular public service radio dies? How many hams will there be available to "tail" public servants to do their communications for them?
This all sounds nice and heroic and philanthropic but, in reality, will wind up doing more damage to ham radio than anything else.
tim ab0wr
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by W0FEN on December 11, 2009
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As with the Raytown (MO) Amateur Radio Club, we have an EchoLink node on our repeater. If they establish a similar node they will have the wide publicity mentioned. It helps that our repeater shows up on the first page on the ZERO area under EXPLORER VIEW. We get regular visits from all over the globe. We have regular Check-Ins from VK to our weekly net.
Robin
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