The Beacon on a Budget Project
Eric (KD4MZM)
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A beacon on a budget project.
Hello and Welcome. This page contains the information for the KD4MZM beacon. Here at the shack I run a 10 meter radio beacon. The beacon is a homebrew design. Most of the system is a converted CB Radio system. The radio is a Cobra 148 GTL 40 channel AM/SSB unit. The radio has been modifed to the 10 meter band. This is a real easy task with this unit. A quick retune of the output and the VCO and it will perform well. After moving it up in frequency, I reduced the power output on SSB to about 1.5 watts total output. This is done so as the radio can transmit 24/7 without a problem. To confirm that this radio could and would perform 24/7, I placed a jumper on it so as to make it transmit 24/7 on AM into a dummy load for thirty (30) days solid. After this simple test, I then placed a 1000hz tone into the mic circut and ran the test again for thirty days. I did this so that if I decide to relocate the beacon to a remote site I wouldn't have to worry about it quitting. To help maintain a cooler heatsink and radio I removed the 4" speaker and installed a 4" muffen fan. I then removed the front meter movement. This allowed a forced air type cooling system. I can say that the radio doesn't even get warm to the touch doing this.
The next part was the CW id'er. This was pretty much an easy task. With all the new digital voice holding projects out there a simple run to Radio Shack and that was done. I came about this system while looking around the local R/S store. The project comes with all the parts and paperwork to get it running. Now as hams we just have to make it work for our needs. The voice circuit is R/S part 276-1326, and sell for about $20.00 bucks. Now unless you want to run it on batterys, and I didn't, a simple 7805 voltage regalator will fix that. The next thing to do was to program the ID string into it. With only 20 seconds of record time I had to come up with a beacon string. I worked on a few and finally came up with the current one I use now. It takes 15 seconds to send at 20 WPM. The project device has 2 push button switchs on it to make it work. After recording the ID, you only need to push one to start the program string. I was able to use a shareware CW program from the computer to make the ID string with. After doing this I then took the output from the sound card and feed it into the voice project bypassing the project mic. I had to use a dropping resistor so as not to over drive the unit. You may have to try this many times before getting the right tone, loudness etc,. I know I did. After you feel you have that done you can then move on to the next step.
So far eveything going together as planned. hihi
The next thing I needed was a simple timer to set the beacon cycle with. I was going to use a 555 timer, but again Radio Shack pulls thru on this one. While reading the catalog making a parts list, I found that they sell a 555 timer circuit with relay, board and all the parts, plus it has adjustments for the timing. After compairing a parts list to that, the kit was the way to go. It is R/S part #RSU 12127114 and sell for $9.99. The timer runs on 12 volts DC. This is just right as now the radio, ID'er all run on 12 volts too. The next thing to do was hook the radio to the timer circuit and test the keying cycle. This takes a few tries before you get it going. I needed at least 15 seconds of key time so that the ID'er beacon could send it's message. After getting that, I then set the unkey time. Once that is done you are then ready to hookup the ID'er. Using the same relay contacts for the keying of the radio you hookup the ID'er. Now what happens is that when the timer cycle starts it will key the radio and start the ID'er sending it's message. If eveything is right you are good to go on the air with it. But we all know that don't always happen. Back to reprogramming the ID'er, what was happening was the ID'er was wanting to start as soon as the 555 timer said start. Well the radio was just a touch behind. So I reprogrammed the voice project starting with about 1/2 second blank spot. Now when the 555 timer starts it gives the relay and radio about a 1/2 second to balance out before it starts sending. Now to get the CW to go out on the air I feed the audio from the digital voice board into the mic jack as normal. Then by putting the radio into USB mode it sends it as modulated CW. The real freq is moved up by zero-beating effect. As for my 10 meter beacon, the radio transmits on 28.275, but zero-beats at 28.277.
This whole setup was then placed into a controlled on-the-air cycle. I ran a working beacon for another 30 days into the dummy load again. Along the way I would check power output, heat build up, and the frequency output. After the 30 days passed I felt the beacon was ready for the air waves. The beacon went live on April 1st., 2000. It has now been over 1 full year and I've had a zero down time with it. The system is still producing the 1.5 watts it started with and stays rock solid. I have gotten reports via QSL cards, emails, and voice QSO's about it. The beacon has been heard in all parts of the USA and world. This just shows that if the band is open a QRP station can work the world.
This beacon project was a result of a close friend having the Cobra 148 GTL radio that went bad. The radio's recieve was out and damaged further than what he wanted to invest to repair it. After see'ing and hearing about the freebanders using this same type of radio to invade 10 meters with I got the idea to use it for something good, as the transmitter still worked fine. The moving of the frequency output can be found almost any where on the internet. I then got a 3 amp power supply to run the radio, timer and digital voice project with. I was then given a Antron A-99 antenna. I then had about 75 feet of RG-8x coax that I used to feed the antenna with. The antenna is up about 15 feet to the base.
A side note, I'm posting this information on July 4th, 2001 here on www.eham.net and as of this date this very same beacon is still on the air. I have performed a power output test and it is still doing the same thing as it did when it went live on April 1st. 2000
If you would like to have your own 10 meter beacon and need more information feel free to email me at kd4mzm@arrl.net I'd be glad to help or provide more information from what I learned making mine. I'm sorry I don't have any pictures of this project as of yet. I'm planning on taking a few and loading them.
73's de Eric...KD4MZM...
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by N7LT on August 11, 2001
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Eric,
Nice artilce and welcome to the world of beacons! I also run a beacon...28.248.5 MHz. Mine is also from junk. A converted Hygain Cybernet CB board. My controller is a XT clone computer though. It takes care of all the CW, the timing, power level steps and also counts the number of transmissions and hours on air! We've also modified our original program to now include temperature readback. We've also gone a step further and bumped the Hygain Cybernet CB board up to 6 meters and have another beacon at that frequency. (now I just got to get an antenna up and get it on the air!)
Unlike you, I never "burned in" my system. :) I just put it on the air with as much power as I could crank out of it to reach the 5 watts I needed. (the beacon makes 10db power level steps from 5 watts to 50 mw) We even cranked the power supply up to 18 volts to reach the 5 watt desired output. So I'm sure your beacon will run for years without any damage to the PA as those old CB's are built tough as nails.
Anyway....if your interested in reading more about what I've done with my junk box beacon, check out my beacon web page at:
www.qsl.net/n7lt/
I look forward to hearing your beacon for the first time Eric!
73
Lyndel, N7LT
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Anonymous post on August 12, 2001
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Beacons are not much use if there's no one calling CQ on the band.
Let's face it, there's enough beacons on 10 metres.
What there isn't enough of is people calling CQ and making contacts.
You'd be better off to build an automatic CQ caller, hook it up to your rig, and have it going when you're in the shack.
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by G4AON on August 12, 2001
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Why bother when there is an excellent world wide HF beacon network run by the Northern California DX Foundation (web site http://www.ncdxf.org/beacon.htm)
They have 18 world wide beacons on 28 MHz, plus others on the 14, 18, 21 and 24 MHz bands. The beacons transmit in time sequence to assist automatic monitoring.
Dave
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by KF4BOT on August 12, 2001
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"Let's face it, there's enough beacons on 10 metres.
What there isn't enough of is people calling CQ and making contacts."
You are entirely correct. Once in a while, I'll put a CB in line just to check propagation. I did this a few days ago. There was a noise level. People were making short skip contacts (such as Miami to Atlanta), which means that Sporadic E was prevalent. Take the CB out of line and put the ham rig back in line, and 10 is a ghost town. It doesn't matter whether it is during the week or on a weekend. Ten is a ghost town.
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by N7LT on August 12, 2001
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Too bad we have so many negative, short-sited hams amoungst us....instead of encouraging Eric to continue his experiments with Amateur Radio (building beacons and the like, they try to belittle him by telling him his new acomplishment in Amateur Radio, which increased his knowledge about electronics, probagation, band plans, transmitter duty cycles, CW ID devices, digital recorders, power supplies and more is a waste of time!!!! Maybe they should of enouraged Eric to continue putting more beacons on other bands and try out some VHF/UHF weak signal modes along the way like working AU or meteor scatter? That's what I did! Instead, they bash him for doing something that very few other hams have ever done?
Sure there are alot of beacons on 10 meters...BIG DEAL! The NCDXF has GREAT beacons located in two places in the US. New York and California. ONLY TWO! Doesent do much good for someone in Texas on 10 meters to listen to NCDXF to see if the band is open to Wyoming or the NW US if he's trying to WY for the first time. No question about it, NCDXF is GREAT if you are looking to see if there is ANY kind of band opening on 10 meters and is an excellent tool put on the air by VERY dedicated amateurs, but you need more beacons to know if there are small openings (such as sporatic E as mentioned above) to know what is going on.
We also need MORE operators to just put out a call on 10 meters to let others know they are there also! Recently, there was an article in QST ASKING for more beacons on 6 in more parts of the country to tell if there are any openings. Are there any NCDXF beacons on 6 meters? Not yet! That's where Amaters that are interested in experimenting step in. We start out by build beacons with the easiest equipment we can get our hands on. CB radios. They're free and easy to convert to 10 meters. We put these on the air first as a experiment of our own to see if we can do it and second as a service to our fellow hams as a probagation tool to let others know that the band is open to our area from theirs.
What a great feeling of accomplishment to know you can transmitt a 50 mW signal around the world so you keep your beacon on the air Eric and enjoy the fruits of your hobbie! Those who complain....they just don't have an idea what they are missing from their hobbie! :)
You cant imagine the QSL's we get from around the world telling us when they heard our signals! It's amazing how dead the band seems but yet you get a email or qsl telling you that they heard your signal when you heard nothing on the band! I cant tell you how many evenings this summer that I've scanned 10 meters to only hear my beacon (located 10 miles from my home) and VE3SIX in Australia. Almost once a week this entire summer! Yet, I've worked zero VK stations on 10 meters this summer.
I guess there is an easy solution for those who feel there are too many 10 meter beacons...go listen to the CB band or hang out above 28.300 MHz where the band is dead quiet... Then you won't be bothered by the overload of beacons put up by other hams who are trying to learn more about electronics and their hobby.
73
N7LT/BCN 28.248.5 MHz
Beacon web address: www.qsl.net/n7lt
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by KF4BOT on August 12, 2001
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I never said anything about hanging out above 28.3. When I check 10 meters for activity, I check everything from 28.0-28.5. I myself know that the chances of finding life beyond 28.5 is slim and none. Lately, the chances of finding any life on 10 meters at all is slim and none.
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by VK2GWK on August 12, 2001
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Nice Job, Eric.
However the control unit can be made even simpler with a small micro controller like the 16F84 that takes care of the morse ID and timing - and for a beacon I would add a watchdog timer (all in one chip). Probably cheaper as well. I may have a software file somewhere if you are interested.
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by N9AVY on August 12, 2001
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I find it sad that some fellow hams are unable to see the usefulness of beacons for checjking propagation. Just because 10m sounds dead doesn't mean that it is. Most often everyone is "listening" and not calling "CQ".
There have been times here in Northern Illinois when I've turned on the rig around 0600 UTC and the only signal that can be heard is that little 20-watt K5AB beacon down in Texas ! Even heard it while I was mobiling through upstate NY ! Both times the band seemed dead.
When were all those worldwide beacons from the CA group ? I dunno, couldn't hear them... just good ol' K5AB hammering out it's beacon signal.
Propagation will vary from area to area. The beacons are useful to determine if you have a path to another area. Once you find a beacon you should go up the band and call "CQ" for a few minutes (a voice keyer works well here!).
While I won't say we need more beacons, I will say that we don't need fewer.
Jerry N9AVY
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by KF4BOT on August 13, 2001
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Yes, beacons are useful for checking propagation. I am not arguing that point. I am not arguing that we should have less of them or more of them. All I am saying is that no-one is using the band. No-one is calling CQ. You hit the nail on the head when you say that most everyone is "listening" and not calling "CQ". This seems to be true of 2 meters also. It is quite obvious that if there is a noise level on 11 meters and people are making Sporadic E contacts, that 10 meters is open as well. Even if loads of hams are "listeninig" on 10 meters, the band is still dead if no-one is using it. You hear no CW, no digital, no SSB. Its just dead, while 11 is teeming with activity. Maybe when the F skip returns, life will return to 10.
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by N7LT on August 13, 2001
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This is why we need more beacons in certian areas....true, there is plenty of beacons in come areas and we surly don't need 5 10 meter beacons in Dallas Texas for instance. But, we sure could use a few more beacons in remote places like the Dakota's (I don't think they have any) or Wy/ID. Six meters REALLY needs some beacons, especially since the probagation is so focused on that band.
As for nobody calling cq... You may wonder why you don't hear many signals out of a state like Montana where I live. Here is my theroy why and I think it holds true for most of the country...For starters, we have just over 3,200 hams in the state. Of those 3,200 hams, about 10 percent are activly using their license. That leaves 320 hams who get on the air at all. Of those 320 you will find about 10 percent of those get on the HF bands on a regular basis. That leaves 32 hams who play on HF. Of those 32 Hams, only about 10 percent are on the air at any one time of the day. That's 3 total hams in the state of Montana on the HF bands at any one time! Not sure how acurate that is but it sure SEEMS that way. :)
Another think that KF4BOT mentioned is that the CB band is alive when 10 meters is dead. I've seen this allot also! Sometimes it's just because nobody is on 10 meters but I think it's also sometimes because the probagation dies at about 27.75 MHz and the band is just dead above that.
If you want to monitor (there we go again, monitoring and not transmitting :) ) 10 meters for some pretty amazing openings and not have to listen to the roar of your rig. Check out 29.6 MHz FM. You'd be suprised at how many guys call on that frequency! Also monitor the 10 meter repeaters at 29.62, 29.64, 29.66 and 29.68 MHz. They will pop and sputter quite a bit telling you the band is open.
This thread has turned for the better! Maybe we can generate some interest amoung some of us to turn our rigs on and start playing again on 10 meters! Two days ago when this thread started I heard all sorts of activity on 29.6 MHz, yesterday there was none! Probagation on 10 meters right now is pretty poor, as if we were in the bottom of the cycle! It's sure nothing like it was the past two cycles!
73 all
Lyndel, N7LT
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by WB2WIK on August 13, 2001
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While there's no shortage of beacons, I cannot see how additional, low-power beacons such as the one described here can possibly harm anyone. The more, the merrier!
Not sure about the posting re beacons below 28 MHz...where are those, and who operates them, again? Beacons aren't allowed (by FCC Part 97 rules, anyway) below 28 Mhz.
I frequently find 10m to be open enough to provide me with a good, readable signal from W1AW, code practice transmissions on 28.068 -- some 3000 miles away -- when the rest of the band is essentially dead. But I do call CQ, and not just once, but a dozen times, and often raise a contact on the other side of the world, on this "dead" band. A few weeks ago, my CQ raised two answers from Australia, from a pair of VK's who were neighbors and knew each other well...so we had this nice little 3-way chat for about an hour, just me and the two Aussies, on the other side of the planet. It does happen, and quite often.
As such, I agree with the others who said, "Darn it, call CQ!"
73 & keep on beaconing! It's not hurting anyone, and is a fun way to experiment with projects and propagation.
Steve WB2WIK/6
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by KF4BOT on August 13, 2001
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"Sometimes it's just because nobody is on 10 meters but I think it's also sometimes because the probagation dies at about 27.75 MHz and the band is just dead above that."
If the MUF is 27.75 MHz, then why is 12 meters always dead? I firmly believe that when 11 is active, so is 10. Most of the time, the band is dead because hams just won't CQ. Whenever there is a major contest, all of a sudden, the band (10 meters) is open!
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by NB6Z on August 13, 2001
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Beacons are a useful tool for our hobby! When they are networked together, they become very interresting. I normally monitor the NCDXF IARU HF beacon network (a bigger budget project) before I operate, just to get the big picture. I run the program called BeaconSee for 30-60 minutes to monitor a couple bands and then view the results before I start operating. The program is found at: http://sapp.telepac.pt/coaa/ and is sharware. It supports the CAT function, so it is an automated process for me. I wish there was a network of beacons like this one on the lower bands for N. American propagation.
As a side-line to using the beacon net, I have noticed that the ham bands above 20 meters are a waste-land; particulary in the summer time. Please answer my CQ... ;-)
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by N4ZOU on August 13, 2001
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The more beacons the better! One thing I enjoy doing is checking the 10 meter beacon sub band and copying all the stations I can hear. I then post my reports on eqsl.cc so the beacon operators can download my information via e qsl's. There is no cost to me or the operators and I am sure they get a kick receiving the information. I enjoy putting my antenna system and receiver to the test of digging out even the weakest signals. My best system for this is an R-390A/URR and a full size 160 meter loop. After I copy all the beacons I can I then go up and call CQ and try and make a few contacts.
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by AF4OD on August 14, 2001
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i like the beacons, it also fills up 10 meters with ham activities instead of cbers and pirates.
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by G4AON on August 14, 2001
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Beacons vs. calling CQ.
One set of frequencies that are often monitored are the QRP calling frequencies of:
14.06, 18.096, 21.06, 24.906 and 28.06
Even so, when band conditions have looked "excellent" while monitoring the NCDXF beacon network (with BeaconSee), I've often called CQ for a few minutes on the most open band's QRP calling frequency and not had a reply. Even tuning around the CW end of this band sometimes only turns up a solitary station.
I suspect there just aren't that many hams on the bands these days! In fact on the DX Summit HF/CW page there have only been a dozen stations listed in the past 20 mins, world wide...
Dave
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by N9AVY on August 14, 2001
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" Ten Meters: Use It or Lose It " was the phrase which brought 10-10 Net International into being back in the 60's. The basic idea is still valid. We need to utilize all our bands before the FCC decides someone else needs them more than we do.
If adding more low power beacons across the country (or world) will give the impression of more activity then we should jump on the bandwagon. Granted that areas like Dallas really don't need a dozen beacons when one or two will suffice, but areas like the Dakotas really could use a few. I'm all for anything that will generate more activity on 10 meters. The more activity the less likely we are to have more intruders.
Incidently, a list of 10m beacons can be found at: www.ten-ten.org . It is updated periodically.
While checking frequencies for beacons, don't forget 28120 where all the PSK31 gang hangs out.
Propagation on 10m vs 11m or even 12m I would think should be about the same at any given time, but I'm no expert on propagation; I'm from the "what-you-hear-is-what-you-get" school of propagation, hi!
Sometimes when 10m appears to be dead it's possible to point a yagi either SE or SW and work "backscatter". I've done this with 100 watts (although a KW wouldn't hurt) and made contacts when the band was seemingly dead. There are also many variables to take into account such as type & height of antenna and whether or not the antenna is plugged into the back of radio ! (don't laugh, I've done it)
Lots of good comments on this thread. Let's all get out there and stir up some activity !
73, Jerry N9AVY
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Anonymous post on August 15, 2001
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Next step on the beacon, I think, should be to add a converter so it could be of use on another band. I know of no beacons on 160, 80 or 40.
And to all the lads who are complaining about nobody calling CQ: Did you call CQ when you heard the beacons? If I'm looking for activity, I don't just listen, I call CQ. I normally get a reply, at least if on CW.
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by WF0H on August 15, 2001
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I think that most of the problem right now is the 'summer doldrums', and the fact that most hams don't expect to find anything on 10 meters during the summer months (really from May to October). I had always hoped that the Novices and Tech+ ops on 10 meters would change that perception, but I guess not. This is NOT a new phenomenon at all. Traditionally, the General and up hams have preferred to work 20 and 75 meters instead of chasing sporadic E on 10. Those that don't have those priveleges need to be encouraged to try to stir up more activity. Local 10 meter nets in the evening have historically led to many great DX QSO's and lots of good short skip contacts, even in the dead of the night. The propagation IS there very often. We have similar problems on 6 meters, though the band openings are somewhat less frequent. I do remember many years ago that a W6 ham (who happened to work for FCC as I recall) set up an automatic recording system to generate QSO's on 6 meters with a station in New Zealand. I believe they were successful in making contact at least once a day for over a year.
This was not at a sunspot peak, either. I'm sure the same could be done more easily on 10 meters.
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by KK9H on August 15, 2001
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The timing of this article is most coincidental. I just completed a beacon project for my local amateur radio club and it went on the air two days ago. The beacon call is NS9RC and it runs 8 watts on 28.297 MHz to a vertical antenna. It only took one day of operation before someone across the country sent us an email asking for information about it. The club members have had a lot of fun learning about the new beacon and many have been introduced to the 28.175 - 28.300 MHz beacon band for the first time. They had no idea how many stations were there. This is another example of how much fun this hobby can be.
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by KC5NYJ on August 19, 2001
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that is the kind of reply I would expect from an appliance operator. "Beacon On A Budget" is about a real amateur radio operator, open to using the old noggin to make something happen rather than just running "corporate mode" with something bought off the shelf at the local ham store, adhering to some holier than thou attitude where sparse efforts of acronymical organizations take precedence over real hobbyists.
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by VE7FXY on August 19, 2001
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I love the 10 meter beacons. When I was studying for my code endorsement the beacons were excellent practice. I qsl'd most of the beacons by e-mail after looking up the beacons callsign on databases. Almost all of the beacon operators I e-mailed got back to me immediately. This was a great thrill for a ham without hf privileges at the time and gave me incentive to finish my code.
73 de ve7fxy (Jason)
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by NG9R on August 23, 2001
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The best use I see for this project, is to use the 10 meter beacon to drive a transverter for higher bands, say, 220 or 432, where there are very few beacons. I have picked up 2 used MMT transverters for 432 very reasonable prices and they would make a great addition for the converted 11 meter unit. How many beacons have you heard above 2 meters recently?
NG9R
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by N2NXZ on July 15, 2007
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A beacon is part of the hobby.A message in a bottle.It runs 24/7 and each day you can check your email to see the replies.You can operate 10 meters all the time even when you are not home.Not only that,it is usually running under 5 watts.Now thats doing something!11 meters is a terrible way to check propagation.Most of them are running well over the legal limits.And a GREAT point,it uses the band instead of pirates taking it over.I can think of more reasons a beacon is good.But it really is obvious.
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