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Amateur Radio Grants Help Bob Jones Set Up Station:

from al.com on November 27, 2009
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Amateur Radio Grants Help Bob Jones Set Up Station:  
by N4CQR on November 27, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
"Amateur radio is voice-only but operates on many frequencies and bands,"


Oops!
 
RE: Amateur Radio Grants Help Bob Jones Set Up Station:  
by N5TGL on November 27, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
Good catch and yep, that's quite the oopsie!
 
RE: Amateur Radio Grants Help Bob Jones Set Up Station:  
by W3ML on November 27, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
Wonder if this guy is really a ham?

Sure didn't sound like voice I was listening to last night.

73
John
 
Will Bob Jones and the ARRL offer transparency?  
by WA4D on November 27, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
This one (unlike so many misguided "youth" efforts) actually appears to be substantive.

When a business undertakes a project, they conduct metrics to determine success/failure. It might be as simple as measuring the profit of a "hot dog" stand or a Disciplined Six Sigma analysis of a complex high tech process (ROI) that took years of R&D and millions of dollars to bring online. (Think Boeing, Ratheon, Ford, Lilly here.)

But does the ARRL ever "track" these projects? What do they define as "Success"? Do they publish articles on the "failures"? Adopt "best practices"? How do we know if these programs are worth supporting?

I'd like to see metrics on this project

How many kids joined the "Ham club" initially?
How many became licensed?
How many learned code?
How many remain active 1 year later?
How many of the instructors successfully integrated the "Wireless" principles into the teaching curriculum?
Show us the "wireless content"
Request anonymous reviews from the students about the content and their teachers with respect to the curriculum.
What do other (non-participating) instructors feel the value of the program is/was?
What other disciplines were integrated into the program? (Math? Physics? IT? Electronics?)
Does the program qualify for accredited course work? (This is specious, I concede)

The ARRL does well at bombastic roll outs of various amateur radio initiatives. Let's see a followup review just like the "hot dog stand" vendor does or Raytheon. Then we can see if the "ROI" is worth it. Like I said, this one appears to be well considered. Let's see how it plays with a transparent report by the school and the league 2 years from now. (They'll need that long to gather data and tweak it.)

mike/wa4d
 
Amateur Radio Grants Help Bob Jones Set Up Station:  
by K0RGR on November 27, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
I'm always amazed at these "Amateur Radio Relay League" activities. I wonder if the ARRL knows anything about them.
 
Amateur Radio Grants Help Bob Jones Set Up Station  
by KJ6BSO on November 27, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
I was going to raise an objection to the ARRL giving money to a discriminatory organization until I realized that the article was about a Bob Jones High School, not Bob Jones University.
 
RE: Amateur Radio Grants Help Bob Jones Set Up Station  
by W4PC on November 27, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
Two major clubs in Huntsville already.

HARC
NADXC

As twice past President of the NADXC I can only remember 1 or 2 hams that attended the meeting under the age of 30.

I'll have to ask the clubs about this. Wonder how many kids are in the club?
 
non-adhesive HAMS  
by KJ4ADN on November 28, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
metrics....?

Did the kids have FUN...? Or isn't that part of the program? If they *really* get interested and start enjoying operating, better shut it all down - this hobby is a forum for Old Farts complaining, not mentoring.

Twice president of a local HAM club - just 1 or 2 attendees under 30yrs old...? Sounds like the local club *was* already half dead. Wow, I hope somebody DOES start a new club, one with a little outreach to kids.

The opportunites are HERE, with the removal of the "code" requirement, but who wants to join a club/hobby of complaining Old Farts? My family and I have been HAMS for just 2 years - and I'm beginning to understand *why* this hobby is so unattractive to new blood. Some things are glaring.

Elmer anyone lately...? In the last 5 years? 10 years? EVER...? Glad *we* still enjoy it, instead of measure every aspect of it.

Bill
 
RE: non-adhesive HAMS  
by WB6DGN on November 29, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
KJ4ADN said:
"Did the kids have FUN...? Or isn't that part of the program?"

Kids already have far too much "FUN" in school and far too little LEARNING. A program like this MAY be an opportunity to combine the two. They may even learn something (beside "sexting", that is) in spite of themselves.
 
RE: Will Bob Jones and the ARRL offer transparency?  
by WA8HHH on November 30, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
Gee Mike, roll out the big guns and do QFD. Quality Functional Deployment's House of Quality is surely called for here, isn't it?
 
Amateur Radio Grants Help Bob Jones Set Up Station  
by KI4GKS on November 30, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
I am amazed at the number of critics a school project brings out. I pass nothing but compliments to anyone who commits their time, energy, expertise, and passion to an amateur radio project at a school. For those of you that are unwilling to make such a commitment I will tell you that it can be most rewarding. All of the hurdles that you must clear to bring a school project online can tax anyones resolve. Success make it worth the effort. The look of one child making their first radio contact tells you that school projects are worth the effort.

For those of you that feel the need to criticize I will offer you a couple of thoughts and a question or two. If you have not been willing to give your time and energy to a project, like a school project, you have no earned authority to be a critic. Before you open your mouth to criticize, break the restraining grip of gravity, raise your buttocks off the couch and try being a little helpful. (Help is not suggesting anything, it is doing some work with your mouth shut.)

Have you ever thought of thanking your fellow hams for the initiative and effort they display when they take on a school project? They spend untold hours bring a project to completion and how do you show your appreciation?

Before you open your mouth to criticize their work, if you are unwilling or unable to provide physical assistance why not open your billfold or checkbook and make a substantial donation? It will be appreciated!

Ed - N4EDT
 
Amateur Radio Grants Help Bob Jones Set Up Station:  
by AB5XZ on December 7, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
We can gripe all we want about ARRL, but I don't see any other organization providing grants for school radio clubs. I have seen first-hand what the grants can do. Nick Lance, KC5KBO, was the driving force who got a radio club and station started at Westbrook Intermediate School in Webster, Texas. I was privileged to help Nick teach the school-hours licensing class at Westbrook a couple of years ago. The club station is in a room shared with JROTC. I found the kids eager to learn, smart, and inquisitive. Nick had a hands-on activity for every class meeting. One day the kids talked to an astronaut-in-training who wanted practice using the local repeater. Another day they tried the phone patch. Naturally, a fox-hunt was on the list. Nick has even made Morse Code fun - the kids like it too.

I've tried to identify a school club here in San Antonio, but so far I have been unsuccessful. I did get some faces to light up when I mentioned the word "grant".

BTW, I belong to, and support, the ARRL. I have been an ARRL member (with a 25-year hiatus) since 1958.
 
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