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Sometimes You Gotta Use a Hammer -- 3C0E

Scott Woelm (WX0V) on April 14, 2012
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Sometimes, You Gotta Use a Hammer - 3CE

By

Scott Woelm WXV

Often times those of us climbing the DXCC ladder have to be creative to add a new one to our tally. However, sometimes just plain ol brute force is the key. Hammer time;

Many of the DXpeditions in late 2011 into early 2012 featured large teams and loud signals. This included HKNA, T2T, T32C, TN2T, TU2T (what is up with the Ts?), VP6T, 3D2R, 3XY1D, and many others. These operations were terrific. I also need to single out TX7M; their CW operators were fantastic! These DXpeditions worked very hard (and spent a fair chunk of money) so that many of us could put away our hammers and put them in our logbooks. Well done!

In February of 2012, another anticipated operation began. Actually, it was a double. Anselmo "Elmo" Coll, EA5BYP, and Javier Dominiguez, EA5KM, began their operations in Equatorial Guinea, as 3C6A.A rather decent DX catch with it rated #59 on the Top 100 Most Wanted DXCC list. Part Two of the double was 3CE; Annobon Island. It's located off the African coast about 250 miles west of Gabon, or 100 miles southwest of Sao Tome Island (S9 for us DXers). This entity sat at #32 on the Most Wanted list, so even abetter catch. I worked 3C9B in 2010 through some rather tough pile-ups, so that entity was already in the books. However, the pile-ups were brutal for 3CC (they were there just a short time), and I was unable to get through. Elmo and Javier planned longer ops this time; a 12 day stint, so that gave me some inspiration. My hope was, if the pile-ups for 3C6A were manageable, perhaps Id have a better shot when they reached Annobon.

Haw! 3C6A had very good signals and Elmo and Javier are quality ops, but they are 2 guys, versus a team of operators, so the pile-ups were rather intense. Not only was this the most notable entity being activated at the time, you also had to factor in the new ARRL "Diamond DXCC Challenge" award. My hopes for landing Annobon were quite low, but I wasn't going down without a fight. With the piles for 3C6A raging, I spent time studying the operating techniques of both Elmo and Javier. I had some extra time to do so as the 3CE operation was delayed by a few days; their boat was not available as scheduled. That was bad news. The good news was their extra time in Equatorial Guinea helped me land 36CA on RTTY/Digital (or whatever its being called this week) and add it to my tally.

Elmo and Javier arrived on Annobon on Friday March 2. Dealing with temperatures exceeding 40c (that's 104 American), 3CE's web site said operations would begin in the evening (their time) on Saturday, March 3. I gambled on 20m CW as the place they would show up first. Makes sense, doesn't it? I parked myself at 14024.0 and sat there, and sat there, and sat there. The ARRL DX SSB contest was underway and I could play with that, but I'd hate to miss my chance at 3CE by working a lot of DX that I don't need. Like a deer hunter in a tree-stand, I maintained vigilance for hours.

Then at 1904z, I hear a weak signal; working an OK1...I cannot really make out a call sign because the path to whoever it is just isn't there. Then a QSB fade-in reveals that it's him...3CE! Gosh he's weak, but I fire away! He works another EU station...I fire away again...he works another EU...then he gets spotted...all Hell breaks loose...instant mess. I decide to fire away for the next hour, but I had no chance. Europe clearly has the path (very few NA and SA stations were getting through) and the pile-up is 10 KC's deep.

Although I failed after hours of waiting, I felt surprisingly good. It was an excellent call as I was right there. I was one of the first few to call for him, I just didn't have the path.

3CE then shows up on 17m SSB. I take a listen and it's Elmo, and his signal is very good. So unlike 20m CW, the path is there. I thought "you know, a lot of SSB competition for this is busy with ARRL DX, so I might as well try", so its time to break out the hammer...lets slug it out;

For the next 2 hours I hammer away with no luck. The pile-up was working 5 to 15 up, so a nice chunk of 17m SSB was a mess. This included a listening QRG that was plopped right on top of a Worked All States Net. This wasn't malicious, it's just something that happens in these situations, but those WAS cats had their day toasted for sure. I take Worked All States rather seriously (I have 9 Band WAS, all via LOTW), so I felt pretty lousy knowing I had QRM'd them. Mea culpa time; sorry, guys. In my defense, I moved to a different QRG immediately after I discovered the Net, but it was blasted away regardless.

With the pile-up raging, I recalled some of my intel from the 3C6A operation. Elmo has this pattern where he suddenly goes up to the high edge of the pile-up, and when he does, the frequency is fairly clear. I parked myself there, called away, and then I hear him say;

"Whiskey X-Ray Two Victoria?"

No, no, no! Its dj-vu all over again; Into the Fire TI9KK

"It's Whiskey X-Ray ZERO Victoria...ZERO Victoria"

By the way, there is a WX2V, but he doesn't appear to be very active, so I'm pretty darned sure it's me 3CE is calling. Either way, I have 3 out of the 4 characters in my call, so it's fair game to shout. Elmo repeats;

"Whiskey X-Ray Two Victoria?" "Is that the call?"

Elmo is not hearing me well, and we certainly have a path, At this point I realize I might be in the process of receiving an HF Stomp. What's an HF Stomp? Time for a brief interlude.

I'm sure you have heard it, the DX station calls for the Tango Tango and some jack-wagon with a call sign that features none of those phonetics decides its go-time, and blasts the original station away. Too many times this technique works, and the DX goes with the louder caller. I have even heard when a station moves on top of the original station the DX was calling. This happened to me once when trying to work a C5 on 17m SSB. The C5 asked who is the Whiskey X-Ray and despite my calls, some prominent DXer, who's call wasn't within a country mile of Whiskey X-Ray (but features the DX Code of Conduct on his QRZ profile page...yeah, rightuh hunh), ended up working him. I had to name this phenomenon so I dubbed it the HF Stomp. With all respect to the Dovells' hit song in 1961, here goes;

"The big pistol's gonna crush

the little pistol,

When he does, the HF Stomp!"

Back to 3CE, in this case, my 100 watts was getting through, but not entirely. It's not a time to be frail. I hammer away, but a real key is to slow the pace down a bit. Make sure everything is clear and concise. I also change my phonetic slightly to make sure he's calling me; just in case the "HF Stomper" is just another guy with a similar call sign (then its fair game). All these things are hard to do when you've been shouting for a while and your adrenaline is surging with the prospects of getting that new one.

"Washington X-Ray ZERO Victoria, W X ؠ V"

"Ok, Zero Victoria, Whiskey X-Ray Zero Victoria, you are five-nine"

"QSL, Whiskey X-Ray Zero Victoria, and you are five-nine, thank you and 73!"

Without calling QRZd?, Elmo quickly goes to an N7, who did not have anything remotely close to Whiskey X-ray in his call. Had I not used the hammer, this HF Stomper might have walked away with the contact and I might still be in that mess. However, I'm in the log. Somehow I got through, and on the first day of operations. Indeed a relief!

30 minutes later I am on 20m CW, listening to3CE work the pile. The signal is significantly better now as propagation is in our favor. With nothing else to chase I decide to jump into the mess. It aint workin'. That pile-up is 10 KCs deep and lined with stations far better than mine. He sends "QRX 4 MINUTES" so the Cops and Lids go nutz on his frequency while he's away. About 5 minutes later I think I hear someone handing out a report, but it's hard to tell with the aforementioned QRM. Hmm, could it be 3CE, or is that just Slim handing out fake reports? Must not be 3CE, as few if any are calling. I hear a TU but still the pile-up is mostly quiet, as the Cops & Lids Show is continuing. You know, maybe I should send my call? Ok, why not;

WXV

The mystery operator comes right back;

WXV 5NN

R WXV 5NN TU

TU UP

Ok, I just made a QSO with someone...was that Slim? No, it was 3CE, as he's returned! The DX faithful now realizes this and the listening QRG explodes;

I'm feeling very lucky...3CE on 2 bands. Still, it was a KABC-like move and that gave me some pride; and no hammer this time! Mark Schiefelbein, KABC, is among the sharpest DXers out there. During the first rounds of the HKNA operation, and their subsequent crazy pile-ups, I checked the on-line log and didn't see KABC. It stayed that way for several days. Then towards the end of the DXpedition, BAM; he had them on all of his 7 bands. You see, he stayed low and let the rest of us beat the snot out of each other, and then when the messes got smaller, he struck. Very smart.

After working 3CE, I keep hunting; hammer in hand. Later that night Val Grabovskiy, D2QV, in Angola, is on 80m CW. He's weak; barely readable, if that. Occasionally a station calls him, but few stick around, as it's clear 80 meters is not in pristine shape. However, he's calling 'CQ' with no takers, and I could use D2 on that band. I wait it out. After all, how many times do you have a D2 on 80 meters all to yourself? Then his signal comes up, just for a brief moment, soI call. Then his signal fades; damn! Then it returns and I hear a "WXV WXV 5NN 5NN BK", so I happily reply! We even got to do a full "dit-dit", and I log a new one for 80m.

This was a different kind of hammer, but a hammer nevertheless. I got D2QV because I stayed in there, and was willing to deal withhis weak signal in the QRN (and he was willing to deal with my weak signal; thank you, Val!). The others who tried him were not patient enoughand didn't get him. D2QV replied to an N8 twice, but the N8 never responded. Had he hammered it out like I did, he might have bagged him.

The next evening and after the contest was over, Nigel Cawthorne, G3TXF, was starring as ZD7XF on St. Helena, and was also on 80m CW. Recall me saying competition being tied up with ARRL DX SSB? Haw! Not any more! ZD7XF's signal was comparable to D2QV's, but now the contest was over and there were scores of callers for him. I had no prayer. Time to put away the hammer and try another day. Later I brought it out for Nigel's 40m appearances, but I got crushed. Sometimes the hammer doesn't work. Oh well. I got D2QV on 80m, and that was a real low-band victory for this 100 watt to a "ware" (see my QRZ profile) Minnesota station.

Back to 3CE, Elmo and Javier worked very hard to make as many contacts as they could. Not only was their trip delayed by a few days, they got hit with severe thunderstorms twice, which damaged equipment and disrupted their sleep. It's my understanding that Elmo (and perhaps Javier, as well) was up for 21 straight hours making QSO's.Did I mention the 100+F temperatures? They both reportedly lost 15 pounds each during this trip. They also battled mosquitoes; so fierce they were forced to wear netting while operating! Add to all this a series of significant CME's (Coronal Mass Ejections; solar flares) which disrupted the HF bands...yikes! However, Elmo and Javier soldiered on. Elmo sounded very chipper to me; I could hear the enthusiasm in his voice ("73 from Annobon Island!") even late into the operation. Yet did you see some of the ridiculous requests on the DX cluster? "Need you on this band...need you on that mode...point your antenna to ME"....yep, I'm sure Elmo and Javier's eyes were glued to the DX cluster while on Annobon; Wi-Fi capitol of the world. Gosh, I even saw multiple spots where the spotter showed anger because Elmo and Javier had to break for food, or sleep. Stunning. Improper use of the hammer, indeed. One wonders if those sitting in their climate-controlled shacks and sending those spots, would have been as pleasant as Elmo and Javier had the roles been reversed?

I certainly can understand the frustration of those who didn't get through to 3C6A and 3CE. I've had my share of DX slip away (including 3CC two years ago). However, DXers owe a THANK YOU to Elmo and Javier for working hard to activate two pretty darned good DX entities. They certainly earned at least that.

I prefer finesse to the hammer, especially when youre out-gunned in a firefight. The hammer is not a pretty picture; that all too familiar screech from the red-faced, vein-popping psycho who's on the brink of a myocardial infarction with each key of the mic;

However, sometimes that aggressive approach is needed to make the contact. So don't be afraid to take out the hammer; especially when the DX station's signal is good. Sure, the big guns are going to be louder than you, but if you're putting a respectable signal to the DX, you may yet prevail. I was able to slip through a sizeable 20m CW pile up for 9N7MD in Nepal, on day 2 of their operation, with a combination of the hammer and finesse. It can be done.

Be careful how you use the hammer. When the DX calls "QRZd?" go ahead and pound away, but make sure to pause plenty of times to listen. You might be hammering away while the DX is calling you! In addition, please, PLEASE avoid being an "HF Stomper" by putting the hammer away when the DX asks for the N7, and your call has none of those characters.

Also, be aware that what you think is an HF-Stomper might be someone with a call sign close to yours. This actually happened when I worked TU2T. The op asked whos the Whiskey X-Ray and some jerk was clearly fighting me. Turns out the "jerk" was my friend Jim Venneman, WX6V, who was also calling; legitimately so! TU2T took me first, and then worked Jim, so we ended up working him back-to-back. I could hear in his voice that the TU2T op got a kick out of that! I took Jim off-frequency and we had a fun chat. Jim is a superb operator with a much higher DXCC score than mine, but I still think he rode my coattails on that one...haw!

So, there you go. Perhaps some new ideas and motivation for the up and coming DXer (who these articles are really aimed at). Maybe this narrative, and a fine-tuned hammer (did I just write "fine-tuned hammer?"), will help you improve your DXCC total?

As this article is being constructed, I see an announcement for a team activating Swains Island (NH8S).oh, goodie, goodie, goodie!

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Sometimes You Gotta Use a Hammer -- 3C0E  
by KK4REB on April 14, 2012 Mail this to a friend!
As a new "general" operator of 4 months I got a head ache just reading your article. Just kidding. Well done and your sharing gives us more info to process for future DX'ing. 73s
Dick
 
RE: Sometimes You Gotta Use a Hammer -- 3C0E  
by K6CS on April 14, 2012 Mail this to a friend!
I can relate to a lot of what you say here and laughed throughout the article. One of my pet peeves is trying to work DX on split and invariably many ops will start calling on the DX stations transmit frequency.

UP 5 OM, UP 5!!!!!

Cracks me up! These guys doing that have light years on me in contests or scrambling for that "Rare" one. Pretty simple really...If you hear a station handing out 59 reports BUT you cannot hear who he's handing them out to, UP 5 OM...UP 5!

Enjoyed the story.

73, Charlie

KE6OUD
 
Sometimes You Gotta Use a Hammer -- 3C0E  
by KY6R on April 14, 2012 Mail this to a friend!
Funny story - love the "DX Stomper". Great name for that!
 
RE: Sometimes You Gotta Use a Hammer -- 3C0E  
by N4KC on April 14, 2012 Mail this to a friend!
Hey, Scott, where do I buy one of them hammers?

Enjoyed the article, and especially since I have been there and done that plenty of times. I just wish I could figure out how to keep N4KZ and N4KG -- both much better ops than I and with much better stations than mine -- out of MY pile-ups!

73,

Don N4KC
www.n4kc.com
www.donkeith.com
http://n4kc.blogspot.com

 
Sometimes You Gotta Use a Hammer -- 3C0E  
by TANAKASAN on April 14, 2012 Mail this to a friend!
As seen, this is where a spectrum scope A.K.A. Panadapter really comes in useful. If your wanted DX station is on 14.XXX and you spot a massive pile up on 14.XXY then you'll know that they are working split.


Tanakasan
 
RE: Sometimes You Gotta Use a Hammer -- 3C0E  
by LA9XSA on April 15, 2012 Mail this to a friend!
Haha. I thought this was going to be about OH6DC's CW key:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR7WGmV3qtM
 
RE: Sometimes You Gotta Use a Hammer -- 3C0E  
by KE6SLS on April 15, 2012 Mail this to a friend!
I REALLY enjoyed reading this one Scott! You have a fine knack at penning "a good one". Thanks for sharing and I hope to see you on the dx boards.

73 om

Jaye
 
Sometimes You Gotta Use a Hammer -- 3C0E  
by K3YD on April 15, 2012 Mail this to a friend!
Really enjoyed reading of your success on 20 CW catching 3C0E. A lucky call at the right moment puts your call many dB above band noise--with no QRM. I have used the same technique myself, several times. Now every e-Ham reader knows it and I have to figure out something new. :-(
 
Sometimes You Gotta Use a Hammer -- 3C0E  
by WA7NDD on April 15, 2012 Mail this to a friend!
Scott, I enjoyed the article, and read the articles that QST prints from the expeditions. Back in the early 70s I found myself yelling into the mic, and I did not like it. I felt stupid, and there was no one there but me, so I stayed with CW for DX, and only if it was like shooting ducks in a barrel. With a much-improved station and good antennas and retirement, I do work DX on SSB, but if there is a pile up, I move on. I get my fifteen minutes of fame writing novels. Try one, The Land of Bloody Headwaters Gold on Amazon Kindle books.
Jim, WA7NDD
 
Sometimes You Gotta Use a Hammer -- 3C0E  
by KDMSKY59 on April 15, 2012 Mail this to a friend!
Anyone willing to strive just because he doesn't have Angola on that band but has Angola on another band doesn't have a life, sorry.

That is just sooo sad. This poor fellow needs something fun and relaxing to do in his spare time.
 
RE: Sometimes You Gotta Use a Hammer -- 3C0E  
by ND6P on April 16, 2012 Mail this to a friend!
Thanks for sharing your DX experiences. Very interesting. 73 - ND6P
 
RE: Sometimes You Gotta Use a Hammer -- 3C0E  
by N0YXB on April 17, 2012 Mail this to a friend!
"Anyone willing to strive just because he doesn't have Angola on that band but has Angola on another band doesn't have a life, sorry."

Huh? Anyone that trolls on the internet is the one in need of a life.

Enjoyed the article very much. Great photos too.
 
Sometimes You Gotta Use a Hammer -- 3C0E  
by K9SRV on April 17, 2012 Mail this to a friend!
Huh? He does have a life! See the hammer? See the shirt? It's quite obvious he is Carl Edwards Crew Chief!!!
 
Sometimes You Gotta Use a Hammer -- 3C0E  
by WX0V on April 17, 2012 Mail this to a friend!
Thanks to all who have commented; I appreciate the feedback.

Dick, KK4REB, says:

>As a new "general" operator of 4 months I got a head >ache just reading your article

DXing can be a perpetual headache, Dick! Welcome aboard...the makers of Advil (and the like) thank you for your patronage. :-)

Don, N4KC, writes:

>Hey, Scott, where do I buy one of them hammers?

I'll trade you one rusty hammer in exchange for your superlative writing skills. That's a fair trade, isn't it? :-P

I am thoroughly enjoying your latest book; "Undersea Warrior" (the Mush Morton story)...I am currently on the Wahoo's first patrol with Morton in command. Great read!

K3YD notes:

>Now every e-Ham reader knows it and I have to
>figure out something new. :-(

Yeah...that's probably why W9KNI got to Honor Roll *before* he wrote his articles and books on DXing...I'm not as bright as he is. :-)

N0YXB says:

>Great photos too.

I think they liven things up a bit.

Again, thank you for the comments, and 73!

Scott - WX0V

P.S. No luck with 9M0L thus far...looks like I need a bigger hammer... :-)
 
Sometimes You Gotta Use a Hammer -- 3C0E  
by WX0V on April 17, 2012 Mail this to a friend!
KB9ICO sez:

>It's quite obvious he is Carl Edwards Crew Chief!!!

Now THAT'S a LIE! I am NOT the crew chief of the '99 Aflac/Fastenal Ford Fusion team...I am a TIRE CHANGER (and I *look* like it, don't I?)...when Carl fell from the top 10 to 30th during Saturday night's race in Texas because of a pit road error, who do you think missed the lug-nut??? :-)
 
Sometimes You Gotta Use a Hammer -- 3C0E  
by KDMSKY59 on April 17, 2012 Mail this to a friend!
I repeat anyone working on 5 band Honor Roll doesn't have a life. Once you have Angola on two bands you think to your self 'self, I have Angola on two bands now...why not try to work Angola on all bands?' While I'm at it why not work 5 band dxcc or 5 band Honor Roll?

Geez, I might think I spend a little too much of my life living vicariously through communicating with other misguided people escaping from reality. In fact, yes, maybe there is more to life than feeling good about an activity that is a compensation for not living a more meaningful, purposeful, life.

In fact, who knows how my life would have turned out if I didn't have my butt stuck up ham radio so often.
 
RE: Sometimes You Gotta Use a Hammer -- 3C0E  
by N4KC on April 17, 2012 Mail this to a friend!
I agree KDMSKY. Anyone who does something that gives him pleasure or satisfaction is obviously not all there.

Besides these silly DXers, there are those misguided folk who go out and try to catch a fish with a lure and a pole when they can much more easily buy fish at a store or restaurant.

And what about those hopeless individuals who try to whack a little ball with a club multiple times until they finally knock it into a hole in the ground. How much simpler it would be if they just walked over and dropped the ball into that hole if that is where they want it.

Or people who read books when TV is much less trouble and time-consuming. Or collect stamps when those old things are not any good at all for mailing letters. Or fly model airplanes that are much too small to carry people or freight. Or call CQ on their ham radios to have someone to talk to when most of them have a perfectly good telephone for that purpose.

Of course, the real disturbed individuals are the ones who go to all the trouble and effort to post anonymous messages on Internet sites to put down or make fun of the pursuits and interests of others just because they are not necessarily the ones they happen to enjoy. Boy, are those guys something else!

Thanks, KDMSKY. At least you and I are smart enough to know what people should do with their hobby and what they shouldn't. Maybe, together, we can convince these guys of how much time and effort they are wasting chasing DX and striving for 5BDXCC so they can turn to those things we...and all right-thinking hams...enjoy about the hobby.

73, and see you "on the wind!"

Don N4KC
www.n4kc.com
www.donkeith.com
http://n4kc.blogspot.com


 
RE: Sometimes You Gotta Use a Hammer -- 3C0E  
by KDMSKY59 on April 17, 2012 Mail this to a friend!
N4KC,

If is wrong to criticize then why are you criticizing me. Aren't you doing what you accused me of?
 
RE: Sometimes You Gotta Use a Hammer -- 3C0E  
by KDMSKY59 on April 17, 2012 Mail this to a friend!
I do ham radio and I enjoy it very much in moderation. If what I say on my posts bothers people it's the truth for many. Only the people I'm describing will be bothered. Those who are of more moderate behavior won't be and may find affirmation in my words.

Also, isn't it better to be truthful if it even just makes a few people think? If we go through life thinking what everybody else thinks and fearful of losing approval for what we see or believe what kind of life is that?

I can tell by your words you are sensitive, indignant, and you feel you are smarter than other people. You are also authoritarian and feel you haven't accomplished what you deserve. But you are not your own person. You have tried all your life to be what others expected of you.

 
Sometimes You Gotta Use a Hammer -- 3C0E  
by N0AH on April 17, 2012 Mail this to a friend!
FB write up om.....I agree on the WARC nets- these people are asking for it- With the hammer, where are you at on your DXCC totals? The WAS accomplishments were impressive!
 
RE: Sometimes You Gotta Use a Hammer -- 3C0E  
by K4YZ on April 18, 2012 Mail this to a friend!
RE:KDMSKY59

QUOTE "I do ham radio and I enjoy it very much in moderation. If what I say on my posts bothers people it's the truth for many. Only the people I'm describing will be bothered. Those who are of more moderate behavior won't be and may find affirmation in my words." UNQUOTE

I seriously doubt you do ANY Amateur Radio and agree with N4KC's swipe at you. No doubt what ever "ham radio" you do is by virtue of a license procured with three c-notes clipped to your 610 or 605 form.

People who write anonymously in subject-specific forums usually have some major personal shortcomings to hide. Yours, no doubt, is a lack of ability to do any of the things you criticize, save for the "Armchair Quarterback" mode.

The people you "bother" most are those who DO have the integrity and moral character to stand behind their convictions with their name, callsign, or both.

More KDMSKY59 Cowardice: QUOTE: "Geez, I might think I spend a little too much of my life living vicariously through communicating with other misguided people escaping from reality. In fact, yes, maybe there is more to life than feeling good about an activity that is a compensation for not living a more meaningful, purposeful, life." UNQUOTE

Hmmmmmmmmmmm...Geeeeeeeeeeeeee...Guess that's why many folks get into Amateur Radio...?!?! To ESCAPE from bills, screaming kids, the six o'clock news, etc etc...?!?! To perhaps just have a little FUN on the radio? Me personally...?!?! I'm a retired Paramedic and ER Nurse. You think Amateur Radio "...is a compensation for not living a more meaningful, purposeful life" for me???

How many babies have YOU help deliver? How many people have come to you thanking you for helping save a family member's life or eased their child's suffering...?!?! How many times have you gone home at the end of the day and washed other people's life off of you...???

Naaaaaaaaaw...You're just an anonymous putz with bad attitude, smart alec mouth and a forum, living vicariously via a keyboard and fake name.

No "73" for you. You're a creep.

Steve, K4YZ
Winchester, TN
 
RE: Sometimes You Gotta Use a Hammer -- 3C0E  
by N4KC on April 18, 2012 Mail this to a friend!
KDMSKY59:

Irrationally held truths may be more harmful than reasoned errors. -- Sir Thomas Huxley

73, and see you "on the wind,"

Don N4KC
www.n4kc.com
www.donkeith.com
http://n4kc.blogspot.com



 
RE: Sometimes You Gotta Use a Hammer -- 3C0E  
by KDMSKY59 on April 18, 2012 Mail this to a friend!
K4YZ,

You are very angry and sound like a people pleaser who does their best but everything keeps getting worse because it's wrong to judge others. It doesn't matter what good we do in life. It's the attitude you bring to the table that allows good to be done.

I don't use my identity on the web because their are many people, even some in my personal life who would silence me. What you refer to as cowardice is prudence.
What you wrote on you're post didn't take courage either and it's not something you would say in person. Does that make you a coward also?

You lost the argument when you became upset.
 
RE: Sometimes You Gotta Use a Hammer -- 3C0E  
by KDMSKY59 on April 18, 2012 Mail this to a friend!
N4KC,

Huxley was in error since reasoned errors are deemed as truth by the reasoners. Then, who is to say which truths are reasonable and which are irrational?
 
RE: Sometimes You Gotta Use a Hammer -- 3C0E  
by K4YZ on April 18, 2012 Mail this to a friend!
KDMski Said: "You are very angry and sound like a people pleaser who does their best but everything keeps getting worse because it's wrong to judge others." END QUOTE

Says the Internet troll who only yesterday said: QUOTE "I repeat anyone working on 5 band Honor Roll doesn't have a life." UNQUOTE

More lying from Kowardsky: QUOTE: "I don't use my identity on the web because their are many people, even some in my personal life who would silence me. What you refer to as cowardice is prudence." END QUOTE

No...what I call cowardice is exactly that...cowardice.

You haven't got the guts to take responsibility for your actions, so you hide behind anonymity. You're not Thomas Paine, fighting a tyrrant and trying to create a nation...You're just another Internet troll that enjoys slinging mud and insults from the cheap seats.

Last word Kowardsy: QUOTE: "You lost the argument when you became upset." END QUOTE

I've lost many arguments, Kowardsky. What's transpiring here's not even close.



Steve Robeson
 
Sometimes You Gotta Use a Hammer -- 3C0E  
by K3BZ on April 18, 2012 Mail this to a friend!
Good DX article, Scott... thanks for the laughs. No doubt you are one of the Deserving who knows what "DX IS" means to many of us. Good hunting, friend, I'll see you in the pileups.
73, Jerry K3BZ
 
Sometimes You Gotta Use a Hammer -- 3C0E  
by WX0V on April 18, 2012 Mail this to a friend!
DING, DING, DING - ** INTERMISSION **

Bryon, N0AH writes:

>With the hammer, where are you at on your DXCC totals?

Hey, Bryon, are you in there? Hard to see you with all this fur a flyin'!

I'm in the hunt at 291/289 (just waiting for HK0NA and 3C0E). Officially, the ARRL has me at 280.

I always point to Mark Schiefelbein, K0ABC, when it comes to an impressive DXCC total. Mark is at 242, which is a smaller total than many of the heavy hitters, but he uses just 200w to an attic dipole antenna. He has DXCC on 7 bands and DXCC Challenge. I'd take his DX operating skills over just about anyone.

>The WAS accomplishments were impressive!

Mark Thomas, N9UM, was the first to get 9BWAS all via LOTW. Les Murphy, K4DY, was second (his was a 10BWAS). Roger Schneider, W9FF, was third. I was fourth (to the best of my knowledge). I reached that goal on the backs of far better stations than mine; with a lot of help from the K3UK Sked Page. I have a rough outline of an article on that subject, but haven't been motivated to construct it.

As far as the 17m WAS net is concerned, QRMing an ongoing QSO is wrong, and I'll let my public apology carry the water for that.

Thank you, Bryon, for your comments and question!

Now back to your regularly scheduled boxing match...which can be fun to watch...

DING-DING!
 
RE: Sometimes You Gotta Use a Hammer -- 3C0E  
by 4O4A on April 20, 2012 Mail this to a friend!
Nice articles, Scott, thanks.
Inspired by this one, I've got 9M0L to be my 300/280.
See you on the bands.

Dragan, 4O4A
 
Sometimes You Gotta Use a Hammer -- 3C0E  
by KH7Y on April 21, 2012 Mail this to a friend!
Scott, you need to be on the other end of this. I was with Elmo in 2007 and can tell you it is tough to work anything but Europe. When there is total disreguard for following our simple instructions it is very frustrating to us operators. Anyone in north America that did work 3C0E consider yourselves very lucky. I tried for days out here in the Pacific without success. I do know why, sure not may station, it is QRM from thoughless hams. This is due to few listning and many just transmitting over and over and over. Also try living there for 10 days.

Aloha, Fred KH7Y, 3C7Y
 
Sometimes You Gotta Use a Hammer -- 3C0E  
by WX0V on April 21, 2012 Mail this to a friend!
On Fred, KH7Y's input...

Fred's input is excellent; the issues of *being* the DX. It's easy for us trying to work the DX to be critical; I have certainly been just that at times. I'll bet many of us have expressed frustration of some sort with the current 9M0L operation.

However, reverse the roles...put *us* on Spratly right now...hmm, hey, wait a minute! This isn't so easy!...get me back to being the chaser, not the chase-ee!

Although this article was geared for the up-and-coming DXer (and inspire others; see 4O4A's comment), with some tips for improving their score, it is not an accident the largest paragraph is dedicated to the conditions Elmo and Javier faced (and the very first paragraph paid respects to quite a few recent DXpeditions). If you worked 3C0E or not, you have to give it up for these guys.

As cocky as I can be times, I'd like to think I'd be a great DX operator, however, in reality, I don't think I'd do so well. My patience level is not balanced enough to deal with the Lids. It's all a moot point; given the state of my current W2, a DXpedition is not in my future.

Which leads to another topic; money. All DXers should check out the April issue of QST and read "How's DX?", which is a story on the financing of VP8ORK. It might be an eye opener.

I hope to work you from NH8S, Fred...73!
 
Sometimes You Gotta Use a Hammer -- 3C0E  
by KH7Y on April 22, 2012 Mail this to a friend!
Hi Scott, well after two hours of calling 9M0L on six meters cw I snaged them. They had a beacon sending CQ CQ their call twice and then UP...Howevr they were not at the radio. So very frustrating indeed. Anyway there is always two sides to the coin. Operating in 3C is a real stretch for anyone. And the frustration of trying to pull calls out of the large piles along with power outages, noise from just every electrical appliance and on and on made me want to pack up and go home to Hawaii. My advise to all the new guys is listen 99 percent of the time and transmit 1 percent. We need to remember this is a hobby we should be having much fun not stress!!

There is another problem with my close friend Elmo, he does not understand English, just a few words and 59, he does well but very limited. He and his wife Toni have been here to my casa and and we are close friends. He is a good op but his languge issue is a problem. This is ture for many oprations. Some operators get stressed over the speed that a DXpedition operator is working...Just let it go and have fun.. That is why there are VFOs on our radios. I have found when there is brick wall and I cannot make the contact, I
QSY and later on go back and presto easy one call.

See you guys in the piles, Aloha Fred, KH7Y
 
Sometimes You Gotta Use a Hammer -- 3C0E  
by KH7Y on April 22, 2012 Mail this to a friend!
Hi Scott, well after two hours of calling 9M0L on six meters cw I snaged them. They had a beacon sending CQ CQ their call twice and then UP...Howevr they were not at the radio. So very frustrating indeed. Anyway there is always two sides to the coin. Operating in 3C is a real stretch for anyone. And the frustration of trying to pull calls out of the large piles along with power outages, noise from just every electrical appliance and on and on made me want to pack up and go home to Hawaii. My advise to all the new guys is listen 99 percent of the time and transmit 1 percent. We need to remember this is a hobby we should be having much fun not stress!!

There is another problem with my close friend Elmo, he does not understand English, just a few words and 59, he does well but very limited. He and his wife Toni have been here to my casa and and we are close friends. He is a good op but his languge issue is a problem. This is ture for many oprations. Some operators get stressed over the speed that a DXpedition operator is working...Just let it go and have fun.. That is why there are VFOs on our radios. I have found when there is brick wall and I cannot make the contact, I
QSY and later on go back and presto easy one call.

See you guys in the piles, Aloha Fred, KH7Y
 
Sometimes You Gotta Use a Hammer -- 3C0E  
by KH7Y on April 22, 2012 Mail this to a friend!
Hi Scott, well after two hours of calling 9M0L on six meters cw I snaged them. They had a beacon sending CQ CQ their call twice and then UP...Howevr they were not at the radio. So very frustrating indeed. Anyway there is always two sides to the coin. Operating in 3C is a real stretch for anyone. And the frustration of trying to pull calls out of the large piles along with power outages, noise from just every electrical appliance and on and on made me want to pack up and go home to Hawaii. My advise to all the new guys is listen 99 percent of the time and transmit 1 percent. We need to remember this is a hobby we should be having much fun not stress!!

There is another problem with my close friend Elmo, he does not understand English, just a few words and 59, he does well but very limited. He and his wife Toni have been here to my casa and and we are close friends. He is a good op but his languge issue is a problem. This is ture for many oprations. Some operators get stressed over the speed that a DXpedition operator is working...Just let it go and have fun.. That is why there are VFOs on our radios. I have found when there is brick wall and I cannot make the contact, I
QSY and later on go back and presto easy one call.

See you guys in the piles, Aloha Fred, KH7Y
 
Sometimes You Gotta Use a Hammer -- 3C0E  
by WZ3O on April 22, 2012 Mail this to a friend!
Cops & Lids Show... Love it & we've all dealt with it..... Now if we could only find a way to remotely shut their power off ... HiHi
 
Sometimes You Gotta Use a Hammer -- 3C0E  
by K3LUE on April 24, 2012 Mail this to a friend!
I always like those dx cluster posts that instead of a spot is a "bring and brag" comment that goes like this:

"Tnx, for the 5th band contact today. Fillin' up the slots."

This is one of the reasons the "little guy" has to work so hard for just that one contact.
 
Sometimes You Gotta Use a Hammer -- 3C0E  
by KC2UCA on April 24, 2012 Mail this to a friend!
Good article, It shows there is no substitute for experience. Regards Kabir Rekhi
 
Sometimes You Gotta Use a Hammer -- 3C0E  
by WX0V on April 24, 2012 Mail this to a friend!
K3LUE says:

>"Tnx, for the 5th band contact today. Fillin'
>up the slots."

DX cluster spots would be much more useful if they had something, well...*useful* in them. Information such as a new DX spot, if the DX is simplex or split, the split QRG, what frequency you worked them if it's a large pile, or even a propagation report ("loud in MN") would be better than K3LUE's all too common example. It's difficult to find much benefit in a "hey, everyone! I got them for my 25th slot!" cluster post.

However, that will never go away...so it is what it is...

>This is one of the reasons the "little guy" has to
>work so hard for just that one contact.

Another is the piling-on effect; a station is spotted and they get spotted every 2 minutes for the next 3 hours. Redundantly silly.

Of course, this is an old argument...I am again reminded there is a solution to "DX Cluster Crabbiness"...don't use it.

73!
 
RE: Sometimes You Gotta Use a Hammer -- 3C0E  
by KZ1A on April 26, 2012 Mail this to a friend!
Bet you the "Cat in the Hat" wasn't too happy about that.
Enjoyed the article.
 
Sometimes You Gotta Use a Hammer -- 3C0E  
by KDMSKY59 on April 26, 2012 Mail this to a friend!
lmao
 
RE: Sometimes You Gotta Use a Hammer -- 3C0E  
by K3LUE on April 26, 2012 Mail this to a friend!
Hopefully my tongue-in-cheek comment was understood for what it was......tongue-in-cheek. DX spotting is great and saves countless hours over the decades-old spinning the dial. The concept of the cluster is great.....the content is too often meaningless. That being said, the multiple spots, the "bring and brag" mentality and the rest of the nonsense, it still is a step up from endless dial twisting.
 
RE: Sometimes You Gotta Use a Hammer -- 3C0E  
by KDMSKY59 on April 26, 2012 Mail this to a friend!
I think 5 Band DXCC Honor Roll isn't good enough. It shouldn't count unless it includes the warc bands and 60 meters. Otherwise it's deceitful. What about the age old ham tradition of honor and integrity? What would you're Elmers say?
 
Sometimes You Gotta Use a Hammer -- 3C0E  
by WX0V on April 27, 2012 Mail this to a friend!
Given the difficulty of reaching just the basic Honor Roll, I seriously doubt too many (even current Desoto Cup holder, I4EAT) would reach "5BDXCC Honor Roll" status; let alone 10B or 9B.

However, if the ARRL created such an award, there certainly would be those who would try. I work 40 hours a week; count me out.

KDMSKY59, if you don't like chasing DX, that's ok, too. There's plenty of room on the bands for all. Maybe someday we'll meet on the air, and we can chat about topics other than DX.

KZ1A says:

>Bet you the "Cat in the Hat" wasn't too happy about that.

I have left Roush-Fenway Racing. The decision was mutual. RFR was upset at my pit-road screw-up, and I wanted more time to chase DX....haw! :-)

73!
 
RE: Sometimes You Gotta Use a Hammer -- 3C0E  
by K3LUE on April 27, 2012 Mail this to a friend!
Being a Hendricks fan but a racing fan first, I'm interested in this exchange. Who?
 
... or to learn a couple of words...  
by 4O4A on May 2, 2012 Mail this to a friend!
Since this article is full of good advices, here is another one: learn a couple of foreign language words.

I was chasing 7O6T for my #301. Usually I don't have problem with DX-peditions from the other side of planet, but Yemen is rather close to EU, only 4000 km (2,500 Miles) from here. EU pile up is tremendous. I tried to call them on 21.024 + 3-5kHz up without too much hope with my 40m GP and 200W, always looking for the freq of last caller they got. But also, paying attention to that what runner is telling us. At one moment, runner typed: "sorok tri"... Sorok tri? That should be "forty three" in Russian! Quick QSY to 21.043 - now hammer! - and I am in the log :)

Allow me a small troll. Compliments for 7O6T work. Outstanding OPs, I personally know 4 of them, I had a chance to be a part of the M/S and M/2 teams with them, and believe me when I say that they are machines. This will be one of the best DX-peditions ever.
 
Sometimes You Gotta Use a Hammer -- 3C0E  
by WX0V on May 3, 2012 Mail this to a friend!
4O4A wrote:

>Since this article is full of good advices, here is
>another one:

Indeed, good advice...and it paid off for you; bang!...a new slot!

I have not been on in several days, but my understanding is the 7O6T ops are doing very well. The last mostly-Russian team I worked was TX7M, and you can see my opinion about that operation in my article (superb CW ops).

K3LUE, the whole Roush-Fenway Racing thing is a gag; my response to KB9ICO's comment...but since the story of me working for RFR is on the internet, therefore, it must be true! :-)

I do most of my operating in the winter (I live in MN), so often times I'll wear a jacket while on the air. It's usually a NASCAR jacket.

...and that's the truth...

73!

Scott - WX0V
 
RE: Sometimes You Gotta Use a Hammer -- 3C0E  
by KDMSKY59 on May 3, 2012 Mail this to a friend!
WX0V,

I was being facetious. It's one of my specialties.

Ken
 
RE: Sometimes You Gotta Use a Hammer -- 3C0E  
by KDMSKY59 on May 3, 2012 Mail this to a friend!
K4YZ,

I just figured out you're call sign isn't real. That means you are what you accused me of being. K4ZY show no such call sign. lmao

 
RE: Sometimes You Gotta Use a Hammer -- 3C0E  
by WX0V on May 9, 2012 Mail this to a friend!
Ken, KDMSKY59,

I realize you were not totally serious on the 5B Honor Roll comment, but I wanted you to know that we have some common ground here. I like chasing DX, obviously, but taking it to an extreme (working every entity on every mode, on every band, etc.) is a little too much for me. If someone else wants to do that, and dedicate their free time to that...fine, but count me out.

I chased the D2 on 80m because I find DXing on that band to be a challenge, and I enjoy it. It is my favorite band to chase DX on. However, if I already had D2 there, I wouldn't have bothered.

Thanks for your comments, Ken. I may not have agreed with all of them, but page 37 of my home copy of the Constitution says you have the Right to say what you want, and those who disagreed with you have the Right to say what they want. Many brave people died protecting that Right.

My offer to chat on the air sometime remains...although aside from chasing 7O6T and 6O0CW (and only handful of contacts between them, at that), I haven't been on much...

73!

Scott - WX0V
 
RE: Sometimes You Gotta Use a Hammer -- 3C0E  
by G8UBJ on May 14, 2012 Mail this to a friend!
RTTY fun this weekend...
QRZ 7O60 up 5 - 20

Is it acceptable to invite a frenzied mob of Italians and Ukrainians to totally fill 15Khz with QRN on any HF band?

I decided to save on the electricity bill...
 
RE: Sometimes You Gotta Use a Hammer -- 3C0E  
by WX0V on May 17, 2012 Mail this to a friend!
G8UBJ writes:

>RTTY fun this weekend...QRZ 7O60 up 5 - 20

I saw a few of the RTTY pile-ups for them; I didn't even try. The NA pile-ups were bad enough; I couldn't even imagine the EU versions.

>I decided to save on the electricity bill...

A frustrating, but wise choice. I did the same.

I popped 7O6T on 3 bands and that was mostly because of my Dad, W0ELM (his last name is his call sign). I went to his home and used his 500w and larger beam to get them for an all-time new one on 15m CW. That took maybe 10 minutes. Then Dad called me later that night and said 7O6T was on 17m SSB, loud and not busy. 2 calls and I had him. Then I worked them on 20m SSB after the insanity had quieted down. All 3 contacts had maybe, 20 minutes into them; I'd rather be lucky than good. Tried for a bit on 30m but no luck there. I also wanted them on RTTY but as I said, I didn't even try.

I look at it this way; it's a 7O for cryin' out loud; out of nowhere this operation pops up...I should be happy just to get them once...and I am! :-)

73! - WX0V
 
Sometimes You Gotta Use a Hammer -- 3C0E  
by WX6V on May 23, 2012 Mail this to a friend!
Awesome article Scott. I felt like I was right there in the shack with you. Yeah - maybe I was, because working 3C6A was a new one for me and getting through from the west coast was no easy task. I had missed BOTH of the last two operations from 3C because I was on vacation in Disneyland both times. I was frantic this time, so that red-faced pix of you on the mike was probably very close to my pose shouting into my headset on 20 SSB in the midst of a massive pile-up with flames coming out of my amp [not really]. I DID get through eventually - WOO-HOO!

So - you told them about our get-together with TU2T, eh? Well, what about AP2NK? That one turned out a bit different, didn't it? :>)

Take care buddy. Hope to see you this weekend in the WPX CW contest. In the meantime - good DXin'

Jim -WX6V-
 
RE: Sometimes You Gotta Use a Hammer -- 3C0E  
by WX0V on May 26, 2012 Mail this to a friend!
Hey, Jim!

Thanks for stopping by!

Yep...you beat me on AP2NK...because as I said in my article, you're an excellent operator...it's as simple as that.

Jim got that QSO not because he did an HF-Stomp, no, not at all...he got it by sending at AP2NK's speed (a lot of guys were sending much faster), and by a perfectly timed call....these things had me exclaiming "DAMN, that guy is good! after hearing Jim work Nasir. I still recall his QSO.

However, I was able to get AP2NK on 20m CW a few nights later, and his QSL card rests in my collection. I did my homework, and was there and ready when Nasir showed up (before he got spotted 8 million times).

Good luck in the contest, Jim! -- gosh, I kinda sounded like VE7KFM there...yikes...73!

Scott - WX0V
 
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