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FCC Rules Against Hams in BPL Decision:

from radioworld.com on April 22, 2013
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FCC Rules Against Hams in BPL Decision:  
by N4VNV on April 22, 2013 Mail this to a friend!
Is anyone surprised by this? We are like policeman, most hate us until they need us. And when they do, we answer the call as always. PLUS, your own Club will ignore you if you aren't a social animal. I was the guy behind the scenes during a Tornado assist. When asked I listed all the things to do to get the Club organized into an efficent force working hand in hand with the Red Cross. I got NOT ONE attaboy from anyone. But the fair haired boy in the Club got written up in the QST, Red Cross AND the Club newsletter. And HE didn't have a CLUE what to do until I wrote it all down for him. Instead of getting into ham radio, I should have just shot myself in the foot.
 
FCC Rules Against Hams in BPL Decision:  
by AI2IA on April 22, 2013 Mail this to a friend!
It will take time, but as is always the case in scientifically verifiable issues, the truth will eventually come out. In my opinion as everyone knows who has followed FCC decisions, the best efforts are made to enact politically preferred decisions.

It is politics first, and then scientific reality second. I believe that the possibility to make a good chunk of money can drive the decision makers to do handstands and back flips, and to stretch the justifications right up to the snapping point.

Take heart,though, because efficiency and operational facts will eventually prevail. If it doesn't work well, sooner or later it will be dropped.
 
FCC Rules Against Hams in BPL Decision:  
by K1DA on April 22, 2013 Mail this to a friend!
Political contributions always trump logic.
 
FCC Rules Against Hams in BPL Decision:  
by K1CJS on April 22, 2013 Mail this to a friend!
No matter how much evidence piles up showing that BPL is nothing but an interference producer, the FCC will poo-poo it and say it isn't. So long as there is a business that will pay the fees and grease palms, BPL will continue to plague any radio it interferes with without the FCC doing thing one about it.
 
FCC Rules Against Hams in BPL Decision:  
by AI2IA on April 22, 2013 Mail this to a friend!
Under what remains of the U.S. free enterprise system, if it's not profitable for private industry, they won't use it. Folks want a good, reliable, noise free internet provider network. They won't buy into this or will terminate the service in exchange for better quality.

The only one who can force continued use of an inefficient, unprofitable, interference generating system is a government agency operating it. Let's hope that it doesn't come to that.
 
FCC Rules Against Hams in BPL Decision:  
by K0IC on April 22, 2013 Mail this to a friend!
I wonder if we can afford that decision in the big picture? Amateur radio is basic communications. Computers are more frail than Amateur Radio. It is probably easier to monitor computers than Amateur Radio by the powers that be.
 
FCC Rules Against Hams in BPL Decision:  
by KD4ALY on April 22, 2013 Mail this to a friend!
And all this group of FCC Commissioners can say is "Broadband Internet". They will allow interference to hams and AM BCB stations all while planning what group of TV frequencies they can steal from broadcasters all in the name of broadband. Don't get me wrong, Internet access is important, but to let it drive your every decision? Shame on you, FCC.
 
FCC Rules Against Hams in BPL Decision:  
by AI2IA on April 23, 2013 Mail this to a friend!
In my opinion, in government activity the best interests of the people are generally overshadowed by monetary interests. This is why I believe that only when they finally realize that their dreams are not workable for a profit in BPL that the bands will revert back to the way they should have remained in the first place.
 
FCC Rules Against Hams in BPL Decision:  
by W5GNB on April 23, 2013 Mail this to a friend!
As long as Money Talks, BPL will remain Alive and Well..... If I hear that crap in my neighborhood, I will gladly take care of the Problem Myself.....

It will soon become Non-Profitable to operate near my QTH................

GNB
 
RE: FCC Rules Against Hams in BPL Decision:  
by W6EM on April 23, 2013 Mail this to a friend!
BPL was, IMO, a devious project to underwrite "smart grid" customer data acquisition by uninformed utilities. That is, until BPL displayed its inevitable collection of Achilles' Heels and is now a flop. Just ask the City of Manassas, VA.

Being a former utility type myself, technical literature is repleat with prior attempts to use VLF on distribution lines for control and data acquisition to no avail. Too much attenuation. Discontinuities. Path disruptions, etc. True, it is still used on some transmission lines that don't have taps, switches, inductors, capacitors, etc., in between terminations. Not like your typical overhead or underground distribution line. And, VLF on transmission uses what are called "wave traps" to inject and remove the VLF signal in between terminals. Essentially, anti-resonant at about 100kHz and allow unattenuated passage of 60Hz.

The BPL Supersalesmen were in the business of selling widgets and pipedreams to the "MBA's in Charge" at most electric utilities. And, the MBAICs didn't listen to their own technical people....

Nature WILL take (has taken?) its course.....
 
FCC Rules Against Hams in BPL Decision:  
by AC5WO on April 24, 2013 Mail this to a friend!
The ruling doesn't matter. Consumer expectations of what is "broadband" have moved on since the MySpace years and BPL can only deliver a "DSL" experience. I predict that nobody will spend money to install BPL.

Yesterday I left my FT-7800R tuned to an AM aircraft frequency as I drove around and I was surprised at the localized hot spots of power line noise up at 131 MHz. In most cases, the noisy locations had capacitor banks for power factor correction. How do hams get an electric utility to fix RF noise problems?
 
FCC Rules Against Hams in BPL Decision:  
by KA5KMS on April 25, 2013 Mail this to a friend!
Why no screams from the public emergency service crowd on this?
 
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