Needed - A New Mobile Antenna Paradigm
Paul Schaffenberger (K5AF)
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The typical HF mobile antenna is a vertical whip with either center loading or base loading, or some combination of the two.
Results are generally quite good when the physical radiator is at least one-eighth of a wavelength or greater. What this means is that an eight-foot radiator is reasonably efficient (around 50%)on 20M.
The problem is that once antennas become physically shorter than one-eighth of a wavelength, efficiency drops radically.
You can illustrate this fact yourself on a piece of graph paper. Draw a horizontal axis that is four squares long, each square representing one-fourth of the maximum value. For the vertical axis (starting at the leftmost point of the horizontal line, draw a line that is eight squares long. This vertical line represents a one-quarter wavelength vertical antenna.
At the top of the quarter wavelength, voltage is maximum and current is minimum (zero). At the bottom of the quarter wavelength, voltage is zero and current is maximum. If you draw one quarter of a sine wave to connect the voltage and current points at the top and bottom of the chart, you'll see that they cross at the vertical halfway point. This is the most efficient part of the antenna; the ends are the least (remember, power equals voltage times current.)
Looking at this plot, if you could magically take your eight feet of physical 20M vertical antenna out of the middle of a full quarter wave antenna, you would have an antenna with efficiencies exceeding 90%. This is precisely what Force 12 does with its verticals. The "T" bar on top, and the coil at the center of their vertical dipole serve as end loading for the half of the quarter wave dipole section, and they claim efficiencies of well over 90%.
Unfortunately, inductor loading cuts out some of the most efficient portions of an antenna. Center loaded antennas, such as Hustlers and Hamsticks, are essentially shortening the antenna in the most efficient radiating portion. Base loading shortens the antenna at the bottom half, also having an impact on efficiency. The loading coils, whether at the bottom or center of the element DO radiate slightly, but not with any degree of efficiency,
The question then becomes how can we emulate an end-loading scheme on a mobile antenna? The exercise becomes a game of elimination, what we can and can't live with in a mobile operation.
We know that a capacity hat will shorten an antenna electrically, but capacity hats are unwieldy and probably require the antenna to be guyed. Verdict: Doable, not practical.
The Force 12 model with a "T" bar could possibly be done with rabbit-ear style elements attached to the top of a whip, but would still probably require some guying. A tuner or small inductor could provide the end loading at the base. Verdict: Doable, somewhat impractical.
A "stinger" wire attached at the top of a generic eight-foot whip could be tied down at some point on the car body. For example, a 4-5' wire attached to a whip and combined with a small amount of base loading would be very efficient, and still retain mostly vertical polarization. The wire could be tied to a distant part of the car body, extended with clear fishing line or something similar. One scenario I contemplated is tying lightweight line to the car antenna, thus keeping the stinger in as much of an inverted L configuration as possible. Verdict: Doable, fairly practical, wind loading characteristics might have to be tested.
The double stinger "T" bar configuration is a great alternative to a regular "T" bar. By putting two stinger wires off the tip of a whip, (in as much of a "T" configuration as possible) you can emulate the "T" bar concept, while also using the wires for guying the whip. A small amount of base inductance would result in a good match and a very efficient antenna. Verdict: Doable, and quite practical
Another consideration is to replace a center loading coil with a matching section made of ladder line. This hairpin match could also be tied off somewhere on the vehicle (keeping it as horizontal as possible) and would more efficient than a coil. There could be multiple places along the matching section for shorting bars for multi-band operations. Verdict: Doable, somewhat practical. A possible solution, though, as the matching section might serve as a guy, but may also be unwieldy.
The open/closed end loop is a possibility. With today's larger vehicles, a wire around the perimeter of the roof, supported by small vertical supports extending a foot or two above the roofline, could be used as an end fed random wire, or as a small horizontal loop with some effectiveness. The roof of my van is 5x8', so a 40' loop could be placed there and could be end-fed as a 40' rectangular wire, or loaded as a loop, and tuned in either scenario with a tuner. Verdict: Doable, somewhat impractical due to the number of supports needed, weird in appearance, not tested.
The last possibility is a random longwire. My present vehicle measures about 16' by 5'. With a bumper-mounted 8' whips at opposite corners of the vehicle connected with a wire, I could have a radiator that would be almost 40' long. With end loading by means of a tuner, it could be quite efficient, even on 80M. There could be various points along the wire where you could have shorting clips to lengthen or shorten the antenna for multi-band use, or use the tuner for all bands. Verdict: Doable, but practical only if you're willing to have two whips on your car. Wind loading at high speeds could be problematic, lightweight fishing rods may help here. Antenna is likely to be quite directional on the higher bands.
Conclusion: More and more hams are taking to the road, and with the antenna restrictions that many of us face, mobile activity is a great alternative to nothing at all. I've presented several alternatives to conventional HF mobile antennas, most of which will outperform the conventional alternatives. Are we willing to think outside the box and make some of these ideas work for us?
Paul K5AF
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by KC4YLX on March 3, 2003
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On the return trip from Dayton last year I put up four fiberglass poles in the stake pockets of my truck. I ran a wire around the top of them and made a randon wire which I feed into a AH-4 tuner mounted behind the seat in the cab. I found this worked great on 80M. I am now working on getting my fiberglas poles mounted on the front Right and Left Rear corners of the truck and feeding that. I enjoy the AH-4 & 706MKIIG combo.
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by W3JXP on March 3, 2003
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Word games are being played here. A capactive hat is, 1 wire, 2 wires, a "T" bar, many wire like the spokes on a wheel, or a sold disk. They are all capactive hats and work the same way. The point of a capactive hat is to make the antenna electricaly longer so a smaller loading coil can be used. which means lower loss in the coil. This is just what Force12 is doing. Nothing wrong with it. If they do it well with low loss coils it should work very well. But its not a new idea, it's a proven design that has been used for years. If they make 90% or not is mostly controled by how well they do the coil. If you look at the losses it's allmost all in the coil. It is the first commerical antenna that has used capactive hats like they do, that I know of. I'm thinking of the 80m version for my station. I would go for it if it didn't need guys. I have a space problem with guys.
John Passaneau W3JXP
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by AD7DB on March 3, 2003
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<i>The roof of my van is 5x8', so a 40' loop could be placed there and could be end-fed as a 40' rectangular wire</i>
Run that by me again? The loop would be 26 feet. 40 feet is the area of the roof, not the perimeter.
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by AD5X on March 3, 2003
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Inductive loading doesn't shorten an antenna, it resonates the antenna by tuning out the short antenna capacitance, leaving just the radiation resistance and losses. The problem is that a short antenna has very low radiation resistance (radiation resistance is proportional to length-squared). So if your antenna and loading coils are lossless, you still lose the majority of your power in ground losses especially in the mobile environment. As an example, the radiation resistance of an 8-foot whip on 40 meters is 2-3 ohms. So assuming a perfect loading coil (Q = infinity), you will still be dividing your power between this 2-3 ohms, and the 10-15 ohms of ground losses. A coil Q of 300 still has a loss of about 5 ohms for a center-loaded 40 meter antenna. Everything is a trade-off - i.e. you trade-off a short antenna for efficiency. TANSTAFFL - There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch.
Phil - AD5X
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by K7LCS on March 3, 2003
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I'LL STICK TO MY THREE SCREWDRIVER ANTENNAS DESIGNED BY DON JOHNSON; ONE ON EACH OF MY VEHICLES AND WORK THE WORLD ON THEM. THIS LAST WEEKEND WAS DX CONTEST, AND I WORKED MANY FROM MY CAR AS USUAL. WHY ALL THE HEADACHES??? JUST BUY OR BUILD A SCREWDRIVER ANTENNA!!!
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by K0BG on March 3, 2003
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Paul, you are correct about one thing, there ain't no free lunch! I have tried the exact scenario you put forward. The fact is, it isn't any better than a properly resonanted vertical with a good, high-Q coil. but there are alternatives, that is for sure.
Once upon a time, I used a folded monopole made from 1/2" copper piping, about 12 feet in length. mounted on the top of the quarter panel. This made the antenna a little too high for low bridges here and there. but it did work and very well. The major problem was (is), the size and voltage rating of the shunt and series capacitors. As you said, no free lunch.
I've used all sorts of loops, DDRRs, twin verticals, and a few you might not of even heard of. Again, it is a trade off, and here it is complexity.
Gosh, it's hard enough to get folks to use a PROPER antenna, much less some sort of behemeth NO WIFE would put up with.
In other words, good in theory, poor in practice.
Alan, KØBG
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by VE3WMB on March 3, 2003
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This is a great article! I like the idea of thinking outside the box.
Here is great example of that applied to mobile antennas ....
a Magnetic loop antenna mounted vertically on a VW Van.
http://www.standpipe.com/w2bri/loopbuilders1.htm
Michael VE3WMB
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by KC4EOE on March 3, 2003
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There have been many people who were thinking outside of the box and got rich in the process. The Outbacker was an innovative design. So was the Screwdriver. They broke the norm of the age old bugcatcher design and cornered a new and responsive market. I prefer the Outbacker due to its good clean looks and and it works quite well, thank you. I am not too lazy to pull over and change bands if I need to. I also like the looks and operation of the Screwdriver, especially the one from the little company in North Carolina that produces a beautifully designed "Tarheel Screwdriver". Those of you who mount fiberglass poles with wire strung all over your vehicle, (like ET's makeshift antenna he used to call home) are surely getting headshaking stares from passersby. I prefer to not only have an efficient mobile antenna setup, but insist on it looking attractive as well. After all, we hams want to encourage folks into the hobby, not scare them away thinking we are some kind of kooks.
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by NJ6F on March 4, 2003
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So a top loaded multiband vertical or end loaded dipole is the best solution. Well there is the Spider antenna at www.spiderantenna.com
It is a multiband vertical or dipole with lightweight coils that have ferrite sliders to adjust for perfect SWR. No stupid antennas where you have to get out of the car to switch bands... 10-75 all on one vertical or dipole.... I have both types and enjoy them with my FT100D and FC20 auto tuner if needed for band edges.
I have much fun on 75 with the old codgers when I tell them I am running an 8 foot dipole...they get hard of hearing...say what !!!
I did a write up under portable antennas on eham already. This antenna kicks ass in either configuration and takes up to 250 watts or so.
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by WA4PTZ on March 4, 2003
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Paul,
I have been hamming mobile for 25 years and yes, I
would love to find a better and more efficient way
to operate while mobile. I'm glad to see that you
are thinking "outside the box" , however...
I believe you are not only outside the box but on
another planet. You are forgetting about the physics
of motion and the reflectivity of metal as well as
the effects of weather and exposure. The E-H antenna
is an interesting idea which someday may provide
an alternative. And who knows, you may come up with
something in the future. In the mean time, keep
thinking but don't forget the rest of the physics
and natural obstacles involved, and I'll keep using
my screwdriver or my Hustler antennas .
73 - Tim
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by K5AF on March 4, 2003
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It seems that there are a lot of naysayers out there who try to pick apart the minor technicalities of ideas rather than the ideas themselves. Yes, a t-bar is a type of capacitive hat, just not what commonly comes to mind when that term is mentioned. Yes, I miscalculated the loop length for the roof loop, but it still is closer to a natural quarter wave on 40M than any 7' whip. Certainly base loading doesn't physically shorten an antenna, but it does allow you to resonate a shorter antenna.
The point of my article was to stimulate thinking. I'm seeing folks pay several hundred dollars for the latest screwdriver antenna, while in theory, the same effect should be achievable with a tuner in the trunk and a clean whip of the same size.
"We've tried that before" is a worn-out phrase from those who are unwilling to really test new ideas. I plan on continuing to try different configurations and do real-world field-strength studies. My basic premise of this article is the more physical wavelength, the better. Achieving that in a way that is physically possible and practical seems to be the larger challenge.
Paul
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by N0XAS on March 4, 2003
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"...several hundred dollars for the latest screwdriver antenna, while in theory, the same effect should be achievable with a tuner in the trunk and a clean whip of the same size."
I thought the screwdriver antenna *WAS* pretty much a whip with a tuner...
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by K5AF on March 4, 2003
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Remember, using a screwdriver with a 9' whip on 80M is equivalent to using a 15" whip for 10M.
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by N6AJR on March 4, 2003
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The problem here is not the antenna, it is the vehicle. Get a large truck with enough length and the 2 poles with a wire becomes feasible. Or even get a trailer, leave it at home when the wife is there, hook up the 20 foot long mobile antenna support when cruising by your self. Its like my friend who drives a big rig, uses a screwdeiver, mounted on the from bumper, a 6 foot whip, and a wire to the top of his fiberglass air intake that sits way up ovr there. It puts out a mighty fine signal.. 73 tom N6AJR
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by K5AF on March 4, 2003
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I'm not sure a huge vehicle is needed. A "stinger" wire, or better yet, a pair, can be attached from the top of a bumper-mounted whip to either side of a car roof with little aesthetic impact (they appear like guy wires). These wires needn't be huge, there is very little current at the far end of an antenna. so perhaps even a #18 wire will work.
Two six to eight foot stingers would raise the current level substantially (and the effective radiated power) on a 9 foot whip, especially on 80M and 40M.
No matter how good the base loading coil is on a screwdriver, you can only get so much out of a nine foot whip on the low bands.
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by K3BU on March 4, 2003
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>>The point of my article was to stimulate thinking. I'm seeing folks pay several hundred dollars for the latest screwdriver antenna, while in theory, the same effect should be achievable with a tuner in the trunk and a clean whip of the same size. <<
Not the same effect! Quite a difference in performance. Base loading or tuner at the base is the least efficient way.
Yuri, K3BU
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by K3BU on March 4, 2003
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>>A "stinger" wire attached at the top of a generic eight-foot whip could be tied down at some point on the car body. For example, a 4-5' wire attached to a whip and combined with a small amount of base loading would be very efficient, and still retain mostly vertical polarization. The wire could be tied to a distant part of the car body, extended with clear fishing line or something similar. One scenario I contemplated is tying lightweight line to the car antenna, thus keeping the stinger in as much of an inverted L configuration as possible. Verdict: Doable, fairly practical, wind loading characteristics might have to be tested. <<
Nothing new "outside the box". Been there, done it. 80m Hustler resonator with wire running to the front bumper mounted mast makes good antenna for 160. It can be tuned accross the band by sliding the front end up and down on the mast. Serves as a guy too. Same goes for 80m and 40.
The GP here is 1972 Buick LeSabre, nice large and no funky computers/electronics to go bananas.
Yuri, K3BU/m
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by K3BU on March 4, 2003
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Just about all of "New Mobile Antenna Paradigms" were tried, explored, tested, compared and results are known. Basic questions is how much ugliness one wants to sacrifice for the efficiency. Books were written about mobile antennas, tests and shootouts done, results are known. There is no magic in CFA, EH or Fractal antennas. Basically you want to get the high current radiating portion of the radiator as large as possible and in the clear. Top loading is the best (hat, stingers, wire, kite pulled wire, etc.), next best is the 2/3 up high quality loading coil (Screwdrivers, Bugcatchers, Hustlers) and combinations of those. The worst is base loading coil or tuners. The rest is in the eye of the beholder and size of the car, mo' metal - better. DDRR, magnetic loops on the roofs, trailer pulled antennas have been tried and enjoyed. You might get comments from some drivers like I did: "my, that antenna is worth more than the car" (not anymore, got it repainted :-)
Yuri, K3BU/m, VE3BMV/m, VE1BY/m
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by W8JI on March 8, 2003
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There are several problems with most of the concepts outlined. First, radiation resistance of an antenna close very to ground in terms of wavelengths has little to do with anything except physical height of the antenna and NET current distribution of the vertical conductors.
For example, the DDRR antenna over a screen has a radiation resistance almost exactly equal to a top loaded vertical the same height! The DDRR actually has more distributed loading loss than a top loaded vertical with a large hat and good coil!!
You gain nothing from making a loop unless the loop is very large. With a small elongated loop, radiation resistance can actually be reduced because the NET currents in the vertial sections oppose each other are out-of-phase.
As someone else pointed out an inverted L is just another form of a top hat.
If you read http://www.w8ji.com/radiation_resistance.htm
and also read the section on loading inductors, you will see some of this explained in more detail. Bottom line is, as others have pointed out, there is no free lunch. The most efficient small antennas, or vertical antennas that are electrically very small heights above ground, are end-loaded with the largest possible capacitance hat and have the highest possible Q inductors located someplace away from the very bottom.
The exception to coil location is when the hat is very large compared to distributed capacitance in the vertical section, then the loading can be at the bottom.
Loops (even "magnetic" loops), L's , folds, rings and twists, while they give us something to talk about, all fall short of large capacitance loading systems with the straightest possible radiating section. Linear loading falls short of conventional well-designed inductors.
73 Tom
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by N3MG on March 8, 2003
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Interesting discussion with many excellent points.
I have enjoyed experimenting with capacitance hats on my screwdriver antenna and have found them to be very effective.
You can homebrew capacitance hats easily and inexpensively. Here is a link to a little webpage I quickly put together describing some basic construction methods I have tried as well as the results.
http://members.cox.net/msgerber/caphat
73- Mark
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by K5AF on March 8, 2003
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"The exception to coil location is when the hat is very large compared to distributed capacitance in the vertical section, then the loading can be at the bottom." W8JI.
I don't think that any of my proposals fundamentally disagree with what W8JI has stated. I think that the "ugliness factor" certainly is an issue here, but it needn't be. A very effective spoked capacity hat can be made from relatively small (nearly invisible) wire and inconspicuously tied off at various points on a vehicle roof or fender. The added benefit is that this structure doubles as a guy structure. #18 wire tied of with clear 40# fishing line will do very nicely, assuming the whip in use doesn't have excessive wind loading.
The point I've tried to make is that F12 has some pretty good ideas that combine top loading in the form of a "T" capacitive hat and inductive loading at the base. They are creating some high-efficiency short vertical dipoles that could be easily adapted to a vertical monopole design.
As Tom so well states, the notoriously inefficient hamstik design is magically transformed into a "shootout" winner with just a small amount of top loading.
My point with this article was not to claim to invent new designs, they've all been tried before and we know the results. My point is that after you've used the most efficient inductor humanly possible to create, you still have enormous limitations on how efficient that system will ever be, especially when dealing with radiating elements that are sometimes shorter than .04 wavelengths (a 9' whip on 80M). The issue is how we can address and deal with these limitations in a practical manner.
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by K4SFC on March 9, 2003
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I wrote on here about this same topic about two years ago. The majority of the comments I got were; "why it can't be done". Therein lies the problem. When you accept that thought, you have a self-full filling prophecy.
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by W8JI on March 10, 2003
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I make it a rule to NEVER depend on advertising as an indication if or how well something works, or even if something something works at all! This especially includes antennas, where people write ads to exaggerate the truth and sell things.
>I wrote on here about this same topic about two years >ago. The majority of the comments I got were; "why it >can't be done". Therein lies the problem. When you >accept that thought, you have a self-full filling >prophecy.
The real problem we face is not bothering to learn how things work, and studying the reasons why some things work better than others. Virtually all technical inventions we have through random effort wind up being nothing at all, except a mistaken idea.
Virtually every step forward in technology has been through expanding on what we already know as facts.
Unless the entire scientific world has no idea at all how something works, it is extremely unlikely anyone is going to "invent" anything new just by randomly trying different things. EM fields, antennas, and radiation are very well understood in the scientific community.
Understanding the basic of how something works is an asset that saves time, not a liability!!
73 Tom
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by K8YOY on April 7, 2004
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Lots and lots to think about. Been mobile for 25+ yrs. One thing is for sure, that with any given antenna, the larger the vehicle, the bigger the signal.
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