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BPL Advocates' Comments Lack Technical Substance, ARRL Reply Comments Say:

from The ARRL Letter, Vol 22, No 33 on August 23, 2003
Website: http://www.arrl.org/
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BPL Advocates' Comments Lack Technical Substance, ARRL Reply Comments Say:

The ARRL says Broadband over Power Line (BPL) proponents failed in their comments to the FCC to substantiate their claims that the technology will not cause widespread interference. In reply comments filed August 20--the FCC's deadline to receive comments in the Notice of Inquiry, ET Docket 03-104--the League said that if the FCC is going to rely on industry statements in making decisions on BPL deployment, the industry should back up its assertions with technical studies and hard data and make these public.

"Unfounded assurances that BPL will not cause interference are no substitute for real-world measurements," the League declared, "and the FCC should rely on documented test results and an impact of interference potential based on scientific, not marketing, criteria."

A form of power line carrier--or PLC--technology, BPL would use existing low and medium-voltage power lines to deliver broadband services to homes and businesses using frequencies between 2 and 80 MHz. Some BPL proponents--primarily electric power utilities--already are testing BPL systems in several markets and want the FCC to relax radiation limits.

"Power lines are ubiquitous, and attempts by the BPL industry to obtain relaxed emission classifications based on operating environment are obviously illogical and frivolous," the ARRL said. BPL would impact not only hams but public safety low-band VHF systems and other mobile systems, the League's comments added.

In contrast to the BPL advocates' "blanket statements" of no interference from BPL field trial sites, the ARRL said its own field tests "lead inescapably to the conclusion that BPL will, if deployed, create widespread harmful interference." It predicted signal levels of up to 30 dB over S9 on a typical amateur transceiver, "well beyond what would preclude amateur HF communications entirely."

To dramatize its point, the League urged the Commission to view video http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/HTML/plc/#video shot during recent ARRL test-and-measurement forays to BPL field trial communities in four states. The ARRL said the type of degradation expected from BPL would transform 20 meters from a band with worldwide communication capabilities to one of limited regional communication capability.

"ARRL has, in fact, done what the BPL industry should have done--brought an amateur station to the trial area," the League said. "When it did so, the interference was manifest and widespread and would be so even to an untrained observer."

The League also noted that comments in the proceeding so far have been silent on the interference susceptibility of BPL to ham radio signal ingress. The League predicted that even as little as 250 mW of signal induced into overhead power lines some 100 feet from an amateur antenna could degrade a BPL system or render it inoperative.

The ARRL called on the FCC to stop acting like a cheerleader for BPL. "It is past time that the Commission acted in its proper role as a steward of the radio spectrum and recognized the interference potential of BPL to the sensitive incumbent licensed services in these bands," the League concluded. "The Commission cannot stretch the Part 15 regulations as far as would be required to accommodate BPL."

The League's complete reply comments are available on the ARRL Web site http://www.arrl.org/announce/regulatory/et03-104/reply-comments-index.htm l along with more information ttp://www.arrl.org/news/features/2003/07/08/1/. Additional information and video clips are on the ARRL "Power Line Communications (PLC) and Amateur Radio" page http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/HTML/plc/.

To support the League's efforts in the BPL fight, visit the ARRL's secure BPL Web site https://www.arrl.org/forms/development/donations/bpl/.

Source:

The ARRL Letter Vol. 22, No. 33 August 22, 2003

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BPL Advocates' Comments Lack Technical Substance,  
by KD7EFQ on August 23, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
It's just the standard shady business practices of todays world. Just remember what corporations do with their toxic/hazardous waste, they Pay fines and continue to dump their poisons, rather than solve the problem. Deception is another corporate tool to make sure they have the millions in the bank for their executive bonuses. T
 
BPL Advocates' Comments Lack Technical Substance,  
by KG6AMW on August 23, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
I thought they would have rolled out a fairly good report with lots of data. Fortunately the majority of positive comments ended up being a regurgitation of the positive benefits of BPL technology followed by very little technical data. Clearly these companies have the ability to identify if interference potential exists but chose not to for good reason. Unbiased and properly executed field trials would quickly identify major interference problems.

KG6AMW
 
RE: BPL Advocates' Comments Lack Technical Substan  
by VK3KCG on August 24, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
"The League also noted that comments in the proceeding so far have been silent on the interference susceptibility of BPL to ham radio signal ingress. The League predicted that even as little as 250 mW of signal induced into overhead power lines some 100 feet from an amateur antenna could degrade a BPL system or render it inoperative".

I wonder if they have taken into account the aggregate total of all the RF generated by overseas shortwave stations during a Solar Maxima?

Are the Public and the Government being buttered up for another corporate con job?

The best antennas are the ones with the largest "capture area" , the National grid is one hell of an antenna!

I hope that the FCC is not so nieve to leave it all up to the electric supply companies to write their own specifications, Powell and cohorts will look very foolish and incompetent sometime in the near future if this ill conceived system gets FCC approval.
 
RE: BPL Advocates' Comments Lack Technical Substan  
by KG6AMW on August 24, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
I don't know Pete, but what the BPL proponents submitted was quite frankly a pile of crap in a pretty box. Given the fact that Harris Corp., NPR(Natl. Public Radio), Cingular Wireless, Verizon, The Wireless Communications Association Intl., Natl. Association of Shortwave Broadcasters, AT&T, Natl. Association of Broadcasters and the Austrian Amateur Radio Society along with many others who provided negative BPL Reply Comments, the FCC will have much to think about. Its not just a bunch of whiny hams any more.

KG6AMW
 
RE: BPL Advocates' Comments Lack Technical Substan  
by VK3KCG on August 24, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
That looks like the truth of it Merrill, I think that it will not get through if the NTIA are educated in regards to this spectrum pollution.

If somebody could help make a mail merge of the following NTIA staff and send it to me I would be very grateful, the format is first letter of first name followed by last name then @ntia.doc.gov

Somebody must have some smart software for this..


I have a big list of information that I would love to submit to the NTIA on BPL (Broad Pollution Levels)
or (Bloody Pathetic Lies)



Office of the Assistant Secretary for Communications and Information

Assistant Secretary - Fredrick Wentland (Acting) 202/482-1840
Secretary - Sheila Williams 202/482-1840
Deputy Assistant Secretary - Fredrick Wentland (Acting) 202/482-1830
Secretary - Eairla Hawkins 202/482-0516
Secretary - Tanika Hawkins 202/482-0516
Senior Advisor - Jack Zinman 202/482-0516
Telecommunications Policy Analyst - Cristina Chou Pauzé 202/482-0105
Director, Congressional Affairs - James V. Wasilewski (Acting) 202/482-1551
Director, Communications - Clyde Ensslin 202/482-7002
Secretary - Geraldine Moody 202/482-1551
Director, Public Affairs- Ranjit DeSilva 202/482-7002
Director, CIIAP - Daniel Hurley 202/482-1157

Office of the Chief Counsel

Chief Counsel - Kathy Smith 202/482-1816
Deputy Chief Counsel - Milton Brown 202/482-1816

Office of International Affairs

Associate Administrator - Robin Layton 202/482-1866

Office of Policy Analysis and Development

Associate Administrator- Kelly Levy 202/482-1880
Deputy Associate Administrator - Joe Gattuso 202/482-1880
Director, Minority Telecommunications Development Program, Maureen A. Lewis 202/482-1880

Office of Policy Coordination and Management

Budget Officer - Clifton Beck 202/482-1800
Chief, Management Division - Tony Calza 202/482-1800
Chief, Policy Coordination Division and Chief Information Officer - Charles Franz (Acting) 202/482-1826

Office of Spectrum Management

Associate Administrator - Fredrick Wentland 202/482-1850
Deputy Associate Administrator - Karl Nebbia 202/482-1850
Director, Spectrum Plans and Policies - Fredrick Wentland 202/482-1850
Chief, Spectrum Engineering and Analysis Division - Gerald F. Hurt 202/482-1652
Chief, Computer Services Division - John K. Lady 202/482-3055
Chief, Spectrum Support Division - Gordon A. Crandall, III 202/482-2191

Office of Telecommunications and Information Applications

Associate Administrator - Bernadette McGuire-Rivera 202/482-5802
Director, Infrastructure Division - Vacant 202/482-2048
Director, Public Broadcasting Division - William Cooperman 202/482-5802

Institute for Telecommunication Sciences (BOULDER)

Director - Al Vincent 303-497-3500
Executive Officer - Vacant



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NTIA GENERAL INFORMATION
NTIA FACSIMILE NUMBERS AT THE HCHB BUILDING

Office of the Assistant Secretary 202/501-0536
Office of Congressional/Public Affairs 202/482-1635
Office of Policy Analysis & Development 202/482-6173
Office of the Chief Counsel 202/501-8013
Office of International Affairs 202/482-1865
Office of Policy Coordination & Management 202/482-0979
Office of Spectrum Management 202/482-4396
IRAC Office (OSM) 202/482-3790
Office of Telecommunications & Information
Applications 202/501-8009
TOP 202/501-5136
PTFP 202/482-2156

FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT REQUESTS:

Refer to Office of Chief Counsel, 482-1816

BUILDING ADDRESSES

HCHB (Herbert C. Hoover Building)
U.S. Department of Commerce / NTIA
1401 Constitution Ave., N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20230

NTIA/ITS (Boulder) Fax: 303-497-5993
U.S. Department of Commerce
Mail Code ITS. __
325 Broadway
Boulder, Colorado 80305-3328



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NTIA OFFICE LISTING August 2003
OFFICE OF THE ASSISTANT SECRETARY -

NOTE: Email may be sent to any person listed below by using the first letter of their first name added to their entire last name, using the format: flast @ ntia.doc.gov . For example: tsmith @ ntia.doc.gov (remove the spaces before sending).

HAWKINS Eairla A/S 202/482-0516

HAWKINS Tanika A/S 202/482-0516

HURLEY Daniel A/S 202/482-1157

PAUZÉ Cristina Chou A/S 202/482-0105

SHAW Helen A. A/S 202/482-2333

WENTLAND Fred A/S 202/482-1850



WILLIAMS Sheila A/S 202/482/1551

ZINMAN Jack A/S 202/482-0516


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MOODY Geraldine OCA 202/482-1551

WASILEWSKI James V. OCA 202/482-1551

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DESILVA Ranjit OPA 202/482-7002

ENSSLIN Clyde OPA 202/482-7002


OFFICE OF CHIEF COUNSEL -

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BROWN Milton OCC 202/482-1853

CHENEY Stacy OCC 202/482-1816

GOODE Teresa OCC 202/482-1816

JOHNSON Josephine OCC 202/482-1816

JOYNER Jeffrey OCC 202/482-8051

MARSHALL Denise OCC 202/482-1030

SCARLETT Josephine OCC 202/482-1816

SMITH Kathy OCC 202/482-1816

SMITH Mary OCC 202/482-1819


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ALEXANDER Fiona OIA 202/482-1866

BHATT Sarita OIA 202/482-1866

GLEASON Jack A. OIA 202/482-1874

HANDLEY Cathy OIA 202/482-0012

JENKINS Marilyn OIA 202/482-1866

KILPATRICK Judith H. OIA 202/482-1087

LAYTON Robin OIA 202/482-1866

PERT Vanessa OIA 202/482-1866

SENE Suzanne OIA 202/482-1866


SPECK Christina OIA 202/482-1440

STEINOUR Diane E. OIA 202/482-3180

THROWER Pearline A. OIA 202/482-1866


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FULTON, B. Keith OPAD 202/482-1880


GATTUSO Joseph L. OPAD 202/482-1880

HOLMES Tanya OPAD 202/482-1880

LADER Wendy OPAD 202/482-1880

LEE Alfred M. OPAD 202/482-1880

LEVY Kelly OPAD 202/482-1880

LEWIS Maureen A. OPAD 202/482-1880

McCONNAUGHEY James W. OPAD 202/482-1880

RYAN Sandra OPAD 202/482-1880

SCHAGRIN Sallianne OPAD 202/482-1885

SLOAN Timothy C. OPAD 202/482-1880

STALLING-CHEUNG Sheree OPAD 202/482-8056


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BECK Clifton OPCM 202/482-1800

CALZA Tony OPCM 202/482-1800

CROSS Rebecca OPCM 202/482-1056

DAVIS Daniel B. OPCM 202/482-2626

DINICOLA Elizabeth OPCM 202/482-1800

FELIX Jasmin OPCM 202/482-1056

FRANCO Sombo OPCM 202/482-2626

FRANZ Charles W. OPCM 202/482-1826

GELMAN Herschel OPCM 202/482-1800

GEORGE James F. OPCM 202/482-2626

HALL Rosa M. OPCM 202/482-1815

LIPSCOMB Mary E. OPCM 202/482-1800

LUNA Alita OPCM 202/482-1800

SCHNEIDER Andrew OPCM 202/482-3094

SCOTT Maria OPCM 202/482-1800

TAYLOR Gale OPCM 202/482-0479

WRIGHT Jeffrey OPCM 202/482-1800

VERNON Nancy OPCM 202/482-1057


OFFICE OF TELECOMMUNICATION AND INFORMATION APPLICATIONS -

NOTE: Email may be sent to any person listed below by using the first letter of their first name added to their entire last name, using the format: flast @ ntia.doc.gov . For example: tsmith @ ntia.doc.gov (remove the spaces before sending).

BILEK Fran OTIA 202/482-5802

BORGSTROM Amy OTIA 202/482-8338

CHADWICK Lynn OTIA 202/482-5802

COOKS Wanda OTIA 202/482-7975

COOPERMAN William O. OTIA 202/482-5802

DRUKER Donald M. OTIA 202/482-2048

DU PONT Lammot OTIA 202/482-5802

DYER Larry OTIA 202/482-5802

GIBBONS Brian OTIA 202/482-5802

HARDY Thomas A. OTIA 202/482-2048

HODGES Madison OTIA 202/482-5802

JEFFERSON Francine OTIA 202/482-5802

LILLY Sean OTIA 202/482-7973

McCORMICK Edna C. OTIA 202/482-5568

McGUIRE-RIVERA Bernadette OTIA 202/482-5802

MELLONE Charles J. Jr. OTIA 202/482-5802

MLASKA Ralph OTIA 202/482-5802

MORGAN Marius OTIA 202/482-0696

PURVIS Cynthia OTIA 202/482-2048

RITCHIE Wayne A. OTIA 202/482-5802

SALEH Steven OTIA 202/482-2015

SANDERS Giselle OTIA 202/482-7971

SESTILI Robert OTIA 202/482-2141

SHEPPARD Walter P. OTIA 202/482-5802

SPARROW Judith S. OTIA 202/482-2048

STEWART Sandra P. OTIA 202/482-5802

WARREN Caryl OTIA 202/482-5802

WARRINER Sonia OTIA 202/482-5802

WEISS Christopher OTIA 202/482-7967


OFFICE OF SPECTRUM MANAGEMENT -

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BAKER Brian OSM 202/482-9135

BARRON-DICAMILLO Ann OSM 202/482-2601

BELOTE William A. OSM 202/482-2473

BLAKE Michael OSM 202/482-7968

BROWN Phillis OSM 202/482-1164

BRUNSON Larry OSM 202/482-0138

BUSH Vincent P. OSM 202/482-0493

BUTCHER Stephen J. OSM 202/482-1164

CAMACHO Joseph P. OSM 202/482-6374

CEREZO Ernesto A. OSM 202/482-3191

CHANG Yu-Sheng E. OSM 202/482-1164

CHARY Soma V. OSM 202/482-5965

CHIRHART Thomas OSM 202/482-9129

CLARK Roger OSM 202/482-5683

CLINE Lafenus L. OSM 202/482-3092

COBB Verleorna OSM 202/482-3230

COSTELLO Brian W. OSM 202/482-1164

CRANDALL Gordon A. III OSM 202/482-2191

DAVISON Edward M. OSM 202/482-1164

DAVISON G. Jane OSM 202/482-1138

DOOLAN William M. OSM 202/482-1164

DRAZENOVICH Darlene A. OSM 202/482-3480

DROCELLA Edward F. OSM 202/482-2608

FARRAJ-RUIZ Ricardo OSM 202/482-4602

FERENO Sandra L. OSM 202/482-0599

FLYNN Francis P. OSM 202/482-2801

FRABLE Alan R. OSM 202/482-1670

GAWTHROP Philip E. OSM 202/482-3203

GLASS Charles OSM 4606 202/482-1896

GRAY Jerome OSM 202/482-5906

GRIMALDI Thomas OSM 202/482-2484

HAINES Robin H. OSM 202/482-4096

HARRIS Vernita D. OSM 202/482-4686

HEALER H. Janet OSM 202/482-1850

HENRY, Joyce Countee OSM 202/482-1850

HILL Richard F. OSM 202/482-3561

HINKLE Robert L. OSM 202/482-3212

HOFER Christofer OSM 202/482-7983

HOFFMAN Charles OSM 202/482-3456

HURLEY Daniel CIIAP 202/482-1157

HURT Gerald F. OSM 202/482-4107

JOINER Bernard OSM 202/482-7885

JULEAU, Edison OSM 202/482-1694

KARAS Rena OSM 202/482-4483

KLAUBER Frederick I. OSM 202/482-0784

KLEMMER Richard R. OSM 202/482-0722

LADY John K. OSM 202/482-5501

LAGUARDIA Julio OSM 202/482-4097

LANCASTER Richard A. OSM 202/482-4487

LEONARD Charles L. OSM 202/482-5412

LEWIS Willie O. OSM 202/482-0698

LITTS Steven E. OSM 202/482-5989

LOUCKS Robin OSM 202/482-5553

MACK Cheryl OSM 202/482-5971

MACKIE Regina K. OSM 202/482-0698

MAI Tai OSM 202/482-0698

MAISEL Theodore OSM 202/482-2987

MALLORY Darnell OSM 202/482-0599

MAO Jeng F. OSM 202/482-9131

MATOS Fredrick OSM 202/482-6493

MCFALL John R. OSM 202/482-4483

MIKOLAJEWSKI Rod 202/482-4889

MITCHELL Gloria OSM 202/482-4276

MITCHELL Willliam L. OSM 202/482-0599

MORRISON Delmon C. OSM 202/482-3230

MURRAY Melvin J. OSM 202/482-2068

NAJMY Frederick A. OSM 202/482-6099

NEBBIA Karl B. OSM 202/482-1850

NGUYEN Diem Le OSM 202/482-0732

O'NEAL Sharon OSM 202/482-0599

ORSULAK Richard OSM 202/482-3012

OWENS Derrick OSM 202/482-0516

PATRICK Gary M. OSM 202/482-4097

PAUL Alakananda OSM 202/482-0110

PHILLIPS Juanita B. OSM 202/482-0698

POELL Patrick OSM 202/482-6245

ROOSA Paul C. Jr. OSM 202/482-1850

ROSS Marshall W. OSM 202/482-1222

RUTH Eric OSM 202/482-4624

SCAMMON Craig A. OSM 202/482-0734

SCHROEDER Norbert W. 4621 OSM 202/482-6207

SEACH Robert R. OSM 202/482-1186

SETTLE Mark OSM 202/482-1652

SHAW Helen CIIAP 202/482-2333

SMITH Linda D. OSM 202/482-4101

SOLE Robert OSM 202/482-1245

SPEIGHTS William D. OSM 202/482-4276

SULLIVAN Thomas OSM 202/482-2791

TADESSE Binyam OSM 202/482-1693

TAYLOR Everett A. OSM 202/482-0724

TAYLOR Kenneth OSM 202/482-0485

THORNTON Michael L. OSM 202/482-5412

TOWNSEND Clement OSM 202/482-1028

TUCKER Cecilia OSM 202/482-4575

VAN BAKEL Keith OSM 202/482-0324

VEADER Stephen OSM 202/482-0599

VORHIES James T. OSM 202/482-3590

WANG Cou-Way OSM 202/482-9136

WASHINGTON Carolyn I. OSM 202/482-1139

WENTLAND Fredrick R. OSM 202/482-1850

WILER Marianne OSM 202/482-6018

WILLIAMS Richard T. OSM 202/482-3055

WILLIAMS Suzette OSM 202/482-3012

WILSON Robert C. OSM 202/482-3135

WOODS Thomas F. Jr. OSM 202/482-1486

WOOTEN Charles M. OSM 202/482-4623

WYLIE Katrina D. OSM 202/482-0893


INSTITUTE FOR TELECOMMUNICATION SCIENCES - BOULDER

The ITS Staff listing is located at http://www.its.bldrdoc.gov/home/organization.html



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NTIA ALPHABETICAL LISTING (August 2003)
NOTE: Email may be sent to any person listed below by using the first letter of their first name added to their entire last name, using the format: flast @ ntia.doc.gov . For example: tsmith @ ntia.doc.gov (remove the spaces before sending).

ACHATZ Robert J. BOULDER ITS .T 303/497-3498

ALEXANDER Fiona OIA OIA 202/482-1866

ALLEN Kenneth C. BOULDER ITS .D4 303/497-5474

ALLEN Wayde J. BOULDER ITS .M 303/497-5871

ATKINSON David J. BOULDER ITS .P 303/497-5281

BAKER Brian OSM 202/482-9135

BARRON-DICAMILLO Ann OSM 202/482-2601

BECK Clifton OPCM 202/482-1800

BEDFORD Brent L. BOULDER ITS .M 303/497-5288

BEHM Christopher J. BOULDER ITS .E 303/497-3640

BEHNAM Kameron A. BOULDER ITS .P 303/497-3830

BELOTE William A. OSM 202/482-2473

BHATT Sarita OIA 202/482-1866

BILEK Fran OTIA 202/482-5802

BLAKE Michael OSM 202/482-7968

BLOOMFIELD Randall S. BOULDER ITS .P 303/497-5489

BORGSTROM Amy OTIA 202/482-2048

BROWN Milton OCC 202/482-1853

BROWN Phillis OSM 202/482-1164

BRUNSON Larry OSM 202/482-0138

BUSH Vincent P. OSM 202/482-1132

BUTCHER Stephen J. OSM 202/482-1164

CALZA Anthony J. OPCM 202/482-1800

CAMACHO Joseph P. OSM 202/482-6374

CEREZO Ernesto A. OSM 202/482-3191

CHADWICK Lynn OTIA 202/482-5802

CHANG Yu-Sheng E. OSM 202/482-1164

CHARY Soma OSM 202/482-5965

CHENEY Stacy OCC 202/482-1816

CHIRHART Thomas OSM 202/482-9129

CLARK Roger L. Jr. OSM 202/482-5683

CLINE Lafenus L. OSM 202/482-3092

COBB Verleanor OSM 202/482-3230

COOKS Wanda OTIA 202/482-5802

COOPERMAN William O. OTIA 202/482-5802

COSTELLO Brian W. OSM 202/482-1164

COTTON Michael G. BOULDER ITS .T 303/497-7346

CRAIG Carole A. BOULDER ITS .D 303/497-5810

CRANDALL Gordon A. III IRAC 202/482-2191

CROSS Rebecca OPCM 202/482-1056

DALKE Roger A. BOULDER ITS .T 303/497-3109

DAVIS Daniel B. OPCM 202/369-0890

DAVISON Edward M. OSM 202/482-1164

DAVISON G. Jane OSM 202/482-1138

DEBOLT Robert O. BOULDER ITS .E 303/497-5324

DEMINCO Nicholas BOULDER ITS .E 303/497-3660

De SILVA Ranjit OPA 202/482-7002

DINICOLA Elizabeth OPCM 202/482-1809

DOOLAN William M. OSM 202/482-1164

DOUGHERTY Robert J. BOULDER ITS .D3 303/497-3646

DOVE Margaret E. BOULDER ITS.M 303/497-3883

DRAZENOVICH Darlene A. OSM 202/482-3480

DROCELLA Edward F. OSM 202/482-2608

DRUKER Donald M. OTIA 202/482-2048

DU PONT Lammot OTIA 202/482-2048

DYER Larry OTIA 202/482-5802

ENGELKING Steven BOULDER ITS .M 303/497-4430

ENSSLIN Clyde OAS 202/482-7002

EWAN John D. BOULDER ITS .M 303/497-3059

FARRAJ-RUIZ Ricardo OSM 202/482-4602

FELIX Jasmin OPCM 202/482-1056

FERENO Sandra L. OSM 202/482-0599

FLYNN Francis P. OSM 202/482-2801

FRABLE Alan R. OSM 202/482-1676

FRANCO Sam OPCM 202/482-5412

FRANZ Charles W. OPCM 202/482-1826

FULTON B. Keith OPAD 202/482-1880


GATTUSO Joseph L. OPAD 202/482-1880

GAWTHROP Philip E. OSM 202/482-3203

GELMAN Herschel OPCM 202/482-1877

GEORGE James F. OPCM 202/482-6494

GIBBONS Brian OTIA 202/482-5802

GLASS Charles OSM 202/482-1896

GLEASON Jack A. OIA 202/482-1874

GOODE Teresa A. OCC 202/482-1816

GRAY Evelyn M. BOULDER ITS.P 303/497-3307

GRAY Jerome OSM 202/482-5906

GRIMALDI Thomas OSM 202/482-2484

HAAKINSON Eldon J. BOULDER ITS.P 303/497-5304

HAINES Robin H. OSM 202/482-4096

HALL Rosa M. OPCM 202/482-1815

HAND Gregory R. BOULDER ITS .E 303/497-3375

HANDLEY Cathy OIA 202/482-0012

HARDY Thomas A. OTIA 202/482-2048

HARRIS Vernita D. OSM 202/482-4686

HAWKINS Eairla P. OAS 202/482-1551

HAWKINS Tanika OAS 202/482-0516

HEALER H. Janet OSM 202/482-1850

HENRY Joyce A. Countee OSM 202/482-1850

HILL Richard F. OSM 202/482-3561

HINKLE Robert L. OSM 202/482-3212

HODGES Madison OTIA 202/482-5802

HOFER Christofer OSM 202/482-7983

HOFFMAN Charles OSM 202/482-3456

HOFFMAN J. Randy BOULDER ITS .M 303/497-3582

HOLMES Tanya OPAD 202/482-1880

HUFFORD George A. BOULDER ITS .T 303/497-3457

HURLEY Daniel CIIAP 202/482-1157

HURT Gerald F. OSM 202/482-4107

INGRAM William J. BOULDER ITS .P 303/497-5436

JEFFERSON Francine OTIA 202/482-5802

JENKINS Marilyn OIA 202/482-1866

JOHNSON Josephine OCC 202/482-1816

JOINER Bernard OSM 202/482-7885

JOYNER Jeffrey OCC 202/482-8051

JULEAU Edison OSM 202/482-1694

KARAS Rena OSM 202/482-1850

KELLIEBREW Marvin L. OSM 202/482-0698

KILPATRICK Judy H. OIA 202/482-1087

KISSICK William A. BOULDER ITS .M 303/497-7410

KLAUBER Frederick I. OSM 202/482-0784

KLEMMER Richard R. OSM 202/482-0722

LADER Wendy OIA 202/482-0516

LADY John K. OSM 202/482-5501

LAGUARDIA, Julio OSM 202/482-1850

LANCASTER Richard A. OSM 202/482-4487

LAYTON Robin OIA 202/482-1866

LEE Alfred M. OPAD 202/482-1880

LEMMON John J. BOULDER ITS .T 303/497-3414

LEONARD Charles L. OSM 202/482-5412

LEVY Kelly OPAD 202/482-1880

LEWIS Maureen A. OPAD 202/482-1880

LEWIS Willie O. OSM 202/482-8055

LILLY Sean OTIA 202/482-2048

LIPSCOMB Mary E. OPCM 202/482-1056

LITTS Steven E. OSM 202/482-5989

LO Yeh BOULDER ITS .M 303/497-3393

LOUCKS Robin L. OSM 202/482-5553

LUEBS Margaret A. BOULDER ITS .D3 303-497-3572

LUNA Alita OPCM 202/482-1800

MACK Cheryl M. OSM 202/482-5971

MACK Joseph P. OSM 202/482-0698

MACKIE Regina K. OSM 202/482-0698

MAISEL Theodore N. OSM 202/482-2987

MALLORY Darnell OSM 202/482-0599

MAO Jeng F. OSM 202/482-9131

MARSHALL Denise OCC 202/482-1030

MATHESON Robert J. BOULDER ITS .M 303/497-3293

MATOS Fredrick OSM 202/482-6493

MATTHEWS Lise BOULDER ITS .D1 303/497-5216

MAYEDA Kathy E. BOULDER ITS .P 303/497-5890

McCORMICK Edna C. OTIA 202/482-2048

McCONNAUGHEY James W. OPAD 202/482-188

McGUIRE-RIVERA Bernadette OTIA 202/482-5802

McFALL John R. OSM 202/482-4483

McFARLAND Mark BOULDER ITS .P 303/497-4132

McKENNA Paul M. BOULDER ITS .E 303/497-3474

McLEAN Robert A. BOULDER ITS .P 303/497-5947

MEGGINSON Joyce E. OSM 202/482-1850

MELLONE Charles J. Jr. 4625 OTIA 202/482-5802

MIKOLAJEWSKI, Roderick OSM 202/482-1850

MITCHELL Gloria G. OSM 202/482-4276

MITCHELL William L. OSM 202/482-0599

MONSON Brett R. BOULDER ITS .E 303/497-4225

MOODY Geraldine OCA 202/482-1551

MORGAN Marius OTIA 202/482-0696

MORRISON Delmon C. OSM 202/482-1132

MURRAY Melvin J. OSM 202/482-2068

NAJMY Frederick A. OSM 202/482-6099

NEBBIA Karl B. OSM 202/482-0536

NELSON Eric D. ITS 303/497-4445

NGUYEN Diem L. OSM 202/482-0732

NOVIK Anna BOULDER ITS .E 303/497-5116

O'NEAL Sharon OSM 202/482-0599

ORSULAK Richard OSM 202/482-3012

OWENS Derrick OSM 202/482-0516

PAPAZIAN Peter B. BOULDER ITS .T 303/497-5369

PATRICK Gary M. OSM 202/482-4097

PAUL Alakananda OSM 202/482-0110

PAUZÉ Cristina Chou OAS 202/482-0105

PERT Vanessa OIA 202/482-1866

PHILLIPS Juanita B. OSM 202/482-0698

PIETRASIEWICZ Val J. BOULDER ITS.P 303/497-5132

PINSON Margaret H. BOULDER ITS.T 303/497-3579

POELL Patrick OSM 202/482-6245

POMPER William J. BOULDER ITS.P 303/497-3730

PURVIS Cynthia OTIA 202/482-2048

RATZLOFF Jeanne M. BOULDER ITS.M 303/497-3330

RAUSH Patricia J. BOULDER/ITS.E 303/497-3568

REDDING Christopher BOULDER ITS .E 303/497-3104

RILEY Timothy J. BOULDER ITS .E 303/497-5735

RITCHIE Wayne A. OTIA 202/482-5802

ROSS Marshall W. OSM 202/482-1222

ROOSA Paul C. Jr. OSM 202/482-1559

RUSYN Teresa BOULDER ITS .E 303/497-3411

RUTH Eric OSM 202/482-1850

RYAN Sandra OPAD 202/482-1880

SALEH Steven OTIA 202/482-2015

SAMORA Charles BOULDER ITS .E 303/497-3367

SANDERS Frank H. BOULDER ITS .M 303/497-5727

SANDERS Giselle OTIA 202/482-7971

SCAMMON Craig A. OSM 202/482-0734

SCARLETT Josephine OCC 202/482-1816

SCHROEDER Norbert W. OSM 202/482-6207

SCHAGRIN Sallianne OPAD 202/482-1885

SCOTT Maria OPCM 202/482-1800

SEACH Robert R. OSM 202/482-1186

SENE Suzanne OIA 202/482-1866


SESTILI Robert OTIA 202/482-2141

SETTLE Mark OSM 202/482-6382

SEITZ Neal B. BOULDER ITS .D 303/497-3106

SHAW Helen A. CIIAP 202/482-2333

SHEPPARD Walter P. OTIA 202/482-5802

SLADE Bill OTIA 202/482-7965

SLOAN Timothy C. OPAD 202/482-1880

SMITH Kathy D. OCC 202/482-1816

SMITH Linda D. OSM 202/482-4101

SMITH Mary OCC 202/482-1819

SMITH Richard OSM 202/482/5906

SOLE Robert OSM 202/482-1245

SPARROW Judith S. OTIA 202/482-2048

SPECK Christina L. OIA 202/482-1440

SPEIGHTS William D. OSM 202/482-4276

STAFFORD Robert B. BOULDER ITS .P 303/497-7835

STALLING-CHEUNG Sheree OPAD 202/482-8056

STATZ Richard N. BOULDER ITS .M 303/497-3389

STAYLOR Mills (Bud) OSM 202/482-0832

STEINOUR Diane E. OIA 202/482-3180

STEWART Sandra P. OTIA 202/482-5802

TAYLOR Everett A. OSM 202/482-0698

TADESSE Binyam OSM 202/482-1693

TAYLOR Gale A. OPCM 202/482-0479

TAYLOR Kenneth OSM 202/482-3230

THORNTON Michael L. OSM 202/482-5412

THROWER Pearline A. OIA 202/482-1866

TOWNSEND Clement OSM 202/482-1028

TUCKER Cecilia OSM 202/482-4575

VAN BAKEL Keith OSM 202/482-0324

VANDERAU John M. BOULDER ITS.P 303/497-3506

VAN BAKEL Keith OSM 202/482-1850

VAN STORY Carol B. BOULDER ITS .D2 303/497-3267

VEADER Stephen OSM 202/482-0599

VERNON Nancy C. OPCM 202/482-1057


VINCENT Alan W. BOULDER ITS .D1 303-497-3500

VORAN Stephen D. BOULDER ITS .T 303/497-3839

VORHIES James T. OSM 202/482-3590

WANG Cou-Way OSM 202/482-9136

WARREN Caryl OTIA 202/482-7972

WARREN Gordon Wade OIA 202/712-5665

WARRINER Sonia OTIA 202/482-5802

WASHINGTON Carolyn I. OSM 202/482-1139

WASILEWSKI James V. OAS 202/482-1551

WEBSTER Arthur A. BOULDER ITS .P 303/497-3567

WEICH, Amy L. BOULDER ITS.T 303/497-3562

WEISS Christopher OTIA 202/482-7967

WENTLAND Fredrick R. OSM 202/482-1850

WEPMAN Jeffrey A. BOULDER ITS .T 303/497-3165

WILER Marianne OSM 202/482-6018

WILLIAMS Richard T. OSM 202/482-0698

WILLIAMS Sheila OAS 202/482-1840

WILLIAMS Suzette OSM 202/482-3012

WILSON Robert C. OSM 202/482-3135

WOLF Stephen BOULDER ITS .T 303/497-3771

WOODS Thomas F. Jr. OSM 202/482-1132

WOOTEN Charles M. OSM 202/482-4623

WRIGHT Jeffrey OPCM 202/482-1800

WYLIE Katrina D. OSM 202/482-0893

ZHANG Jennifer OTIA 202/482-7966

ZINMAN Jack OAS 202/482-0516





 
RE: BPL Advocates' Comments Lack Technical Substan  
by W9WHE on August 25, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Advocates for BPL will not emphasize technical anything, they will emphasize ECONOMIC benifits to the masses.

The liberals that want to give everything to everybody focus on the ECONOMIC benifits to the masses of lower cost broadband access, not the technical.

Our enemy here is the liberal types that think that its the government's role to give everything to everybody. You know the types....those that believe that the government is their "mommy".
 
RE: BPL Advocates' Comments Lack Technical Substan  
by KG9QM on August 25, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
I am amazed that they haven't started using the big power blackout as "substance" - saying that they could improve their control systems if only they'd had BPL to communicate with them.

I have already seen one power company offer customers a box that goes on their meter panel, which cuts power to A/C or other devices during the peak hours. As far as I know, this is a "dumb" device that has been preset for certain times. Wanna bet they really intend to eventually control your home using devices like this that are linked via BPL? Or turn off customers that are late on the bill?
 
RE: BPL Advocates' Comments Lack Technical Substan  
by KG6AMW on August 25, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Jonathan you will get screwed just as quick by a conservative as you would by a liberal. Its nothing than a power/money issue and nothing else.

KG6AMW
 
RE: BPL Advocates' Comments Lack Technical Substan  
by W1RFI on August 26, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
> If somebody could help make a mail merge of the
> following NTIA staff and send it to me I would be
> very grateful, the format is first letter of first
> name followed by last name then @ntia.doc.gov

> I have a big list of information that I would love
> to submit to the NTIA on BPL (Broad Pollution
> Levels)or (Bloody Pathetic Lies)

That would be about the must unhelpful thing I could imagine. That kind of email-bomb technique is not appreciated by anyone and 99% of the people on that list are not involved in this matter in the least. Such a barrage should be treated the same way as spam and tossed into the recycle bin.

NTIA is interested in one thing at this point -- making measurements in the field trial areas. They know how to do that; they have planned a very thorough test and I have full confidence that the people involved will do it correctly.

If you have information on BPL, you can file it with the FCC as a late-filed comment. They will still accept good information on that basis. You can post it here, so others involved with this issue can also benefit from your work and you can send it to me at ARRL HQ so I can share it with my contacts within ARRL and outside.

73,
Ed Hare, W1RFI
 
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