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Mobile Ham Help for 5th Wheel RVers

Frank Drake (KL7IPV) on October 3, 2003
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I have been mobile hamming since 1966. In all those years, I have had to make some adjustments on where the antenna goes. On my cars they usually went on a ball mount and spring. On my 1989 Chevrolet pickup, I mounted the antenna on a bumper mount in the front of the truck. On my 1997 Dodge pickup, I used mag-mounts on a steel toolbox in the bed.

My 2002 Dodge pickup posed a different challenge. The bumper mount just didn't lend itself to looking all that good. The toolbox now in the bed is aluminum and mag-mounts are useless. I didn't want to have mag-mounts all over the truck roof with wires hanging down over the rear window. I bought some thin steel sheeting and cut it down to fit the top of the toolbox and screwed it down using silicone seal to keep the box dry inside. That didn't work out to well for the heavier antenna since I had no way to tether it when driving. It works well for the lighter 2-meter antenna though.

I still needed to do something about the HF antenna. On eBay I bought a used ball mount and spring for the toolbox. I did the mounting and all that and it worked really well. Well, that is, until I hooked up my 5th wheel travel trailer. Then the problem arose. The 5th wheel turns sharply and the front of the 5th wheel moves OVER the toolbox. UH OH! The antenna has to lean over and it wasn't made to do that the way it was mounted. The solution? I went to my local home hardware place and bought a piece of aluminum 3/8-inch rod. I already had a tapping tool for 3/8X24 and I used it here. I cut a 6-inch piece of rod off and tapped both ends about an inch long. I put the new rod in the ball mount and then mounted the antenna spring on that new rod. Now when the 5th wheel hits the antenna, it just leans over the toolbox and returns when I straighten out.

I used a piece of 60-pound monofilament fish line to keep the antenna vertical when driving. The fish line is attached to a hook I mounted just inside the rear door of the Quadcab. I put a piece of plastic tab cut from a coffee can top under the screw and fish line to protect the truck paint from the line and hook. The side benefit from all this is that I mounted a chassis mount SO239 fitting on the lower side of the toolbox and now I can attach a coax from the outside of the truck to that as well. It looks strange, but after all the things I have tried with mobile antennas, that isn't unusual for the vehicles I drive. They work and THAT works for me.

73
Frank
KL7IPV

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Mobile Ham Help for 5th Wheel RVers  
by N3ZKP on October 3, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Frank,

Nice idea. What kind of HF antenna are you talking about here?

Lon
 
RE: Mobile Ham Help for 5th Wheel RVers  
by KL7IPV on October 3, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
I have used the Hustler mobiles for over 30 years now and find them very easy to use in a lot of different situations. I mount four coils on a mast and switch bands on the fly while I drive. I guess my pictures didn't make it here, so if you want pictures; email me at sirdrakerj@aol.com and I will send them to you.
73
Frank
KL7IPV
 
RE: Mobile Ham Help for 5th Wheel RVers  
by KL7IPV on October 3, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
You can see the pictures for this articles here:
http://members.aol.com/sirdrakejr/truckantenna.jpg and
http://members.aol.com/sirdrakejr/truckantcloseup.jpg
If you need or want more info, email me at sirdrakejr@aol.com
73
Frank
KL7IPV
 
RE: Mobile Ham Help for 5th Wheel RVers  
by N3ZKP on October 3, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Frank,

It was more curiosity thatn a desire to duplicate the installation. :)

I run an HS 1800Pro on my minivan.

Nice you found a workable solution.

Lon
 
RE: Mobile Ham Help for 5th Wheel RVers  
by N6AJR on October 3, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
I use a 10 meter and a 40 meter ham sticks on the back of the bed of my pickup with 1/2 inch 3/8 x 24 mounts and fishing line to keep them up. I use a mfj dual cross needle tuner to switch and go between bands. fine business on al from 10 to 40 and CHEEP... ( I couldn't get the Fan Dipole to stay up in the wind HI hi)

tom N6AJR
 
RE: Mobile Ham Help for 5th Wheel RVers  
by N1RWC on October 5, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Great Article Frank, just one question for you.

Do you have any problem with the Antenna hitting the 5th Wheel due to mounting location? I started working at a RV Dealership and I know that several of the repairs on 5th Wheels are usually caused by something in the truck bed hitting the trailer or mount during turns.

Love the pictures, great job.

73 Matt N1RWC
 
RE: Mobile Ham Help for 5th Wheel RVers  
by KL7IPV on October 5, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Matt,
Thanks for the nice comments. The only time the antenna hits the front of the 5th wheel is when making sharp left turns in a gas station or when I am driving fairly slow and making sharp turns. I haven't seen any scratches on the 5th wheel from the antenna yet. I wondered about the antenna hitting the 5th wheel and when I took it out of storage I watched and knew then I needed to do "something different". I added the short piece of rod and that raised the spring enough to clear the toolbox. The monofilament line keeps the antenna from blowing back while driving so that is not a problem. Each coil is tuned so I have a 1:1.5 or better SWR on each band in the SSB portion. The two meter mag mounted antenna in the center is unaffected by the 5th wheel.
73
Frank
KL7IPV
 
RE: Mobile Ham Help for 5th Wheel RVers  
by N1RWC on October 6, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Thanks for the info Frank.

73 Matt N1RWC
 
RE: Mobile Ham Help for 5th Wheel RVers  
by KL7IPV on December 22, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Since I wrote about making a modification of my Hustler antenna so it would bend out of the way when the front of my 5th wheel travel trailer passed over the tool box in the bed of my pickup truck I have found a problem. It seems that just the short piece of aluminum antenna rod between the spring and the mount is too much leverage for the short rod. It has broken off just at the mount from motion to the side and not from the front. I have replaced the aluminum rod material with steel threaded rod. The 3/8X24 threaded rod is available from Do It Best hardware online (www.doitbest.com) and is listed as: SKU751573, Model 20304 3/8X24X36" @ $3.09 plus S&H. I hope that helps anyone else thinking about doing that mod for their mobiling.
73
Frank
KL7IPV
 
Mobile Ham Help for 5th Wheel RVers  
by N4XLE on April 19, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Frank

IMHO, you would have a much better radiation pattern if you just mounted a standard ball mount to the top of your toolbox by drilling (you obviously drilled the side) or are you saying the fifth wheel trailer front would knock it there? Any vertical antenna, with a portion of its vertical length paralleling a metal surface, is going to be a not so good a radiator (antenna). And why use sheet metal just so you can get a mag mount to work? Just drill the tool box!
 
Mobile Ham Help for 5th Wheel RVers  
by K3MP on May 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I have a Comet UHV-6, with a side mount on my door to my 2001 Silverado. Send me your email address and I will send you a picture of the truck and 5'er hooked up and you can see the set up. 73
 
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