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Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1

Philip Neidlinger (KA4KOE) on November 11, 2003
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This Month's Stiff: James Clerk Maxwell

Entered mortal coil: 13 June 1831

Assumed Room Temperature: 5 November 1879

0x08 graphic

Jimmy boy, wife Katherine, and unidentified dog.

The homely individual pictured above is none other than James Clerk Maxwell, father of all that we hams hold sacred. Jimmy's mathematical formulas, which had as a foundation earlier research by Faraday on electricity and magnetism, predicted the existence of electromagnetic waves, i.e. radio. These formulas are quite complex, and even I, with a full year of college calculus under my belt courtesy of a questionable institution of higher learning (after all, they DID admit me, didn't they?), have difficulty digesting them. Here are the formulas below for your enjoyment-

1. div E = 0

2. div H = 0

3. curl E = c x dH/dt

4. curl H = c x dE/dt

Where E = electric field strength,

H = magnetic field strength,

curl = rotation (or rate of change and vorticity),

div = divergence,

dH/dt and dE/dt are partial differentiations with respect to time.

x = multiplication

Okay, you may ask, what does all this gobbledegook mean? Simply put, a changing electric current in a conductor will set up an expanding electromagnetic field propagating outward at the speed of light (this is the foundation on how transmitters work). Conversely, an electromagnetic field intersecting a conductor will induce a varying electric current (this is the foundation on how receivers work). A few years after Jimmy's death, all of this mess was proven to be true when a particularly bright German researcher, Heinrich Hertz, demonstrated the existence of radio waves via experimental means. Our hero was vindicated!

Maxwell was not a particularly good teacher at St. Andrews University in Great Britain. Maxwell did other important work on the orbital dynamics of Saturn's rings and developed the kinetic theory of gases. Maxwell's theories on electromagnetic radiation, however, were later considered to be the greatest contribution to science in the 19th century. Jimmy died quietly in bed, at peace with himself and his Maker.

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Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by G5FSD on November 11, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
don't you think the tone of that
is a bit disrespectful?
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by K4PIT on November 11, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
He is young. The guy in the picture and his wife and dog are in black and white and dead so, of course they aren't deserving of respect.

We need to know more about him before respect is given to a fellow human being who shares our interests. Could he pound CW at 20+ ? Did he say 73's? Get ready, we may need to rip this guy apart.

uh, seventy, uh, uhmmm

BYE!
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by N2WEC on November 11, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
While the information presented here may be correct; the individual writting it is of questionable character. Respect above all should be given to those who dare to dream, think and put forth their ideas for others to examin and or validate. Can he say the same for himself? Maxwell may not have been a great teacher, but he was brilliant. The disrespectful writter of this "Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1" is obviously not.

Bill - N2WEC
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by KG4RUL on November 11, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Guys! Relax and take your meds.

Dennis - KG4RUL

PS - Who will be 'Dead Electrical Dude' No. 2?
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by AC5E on November 11, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
The formulas are a bit obscure but there are many interpretive texts that clear up the confusion. F.R. Conner's slim volume and David Dugdales's somewhat fatter one are within arms reach, and several more are ensconced on the bookshelves in the house.

As far as the tone of the obituary is concerned, I don't mind a bit. I have helped put quite a few very nice folks to their long rest in the old plantation, folks who will be sadly missed by the vanishing few of us who knew them - and attended the sending off parties of more'n a few who had a big funeral because half the county came to make sure the SOB was really defunct.

73 Pete Allen AC5E
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by WR8Y on November 11, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
I don't know the author, but I see the article as a tongue-in-cheek post, an attempt at humor. But I don't see it as disrespectful.

Consider:
--------------
...James Clerk Maxwell, father of all that we hams hold sacred. Jimmy's mathematical formulas ... predicted the existence of electromagnetic waves, i.e. radio. These formulas are quite complex...

...Our hero was vindicated...

...Maxwell did other important work on the orbital dynamics of Saturn's rings and developed the kinetic theory of gases...

...Maxwell's theories on electromagnetic radiation, however, were later considered to be the greatest contribution to science in the 19th century.
--------------

The "GREATEST CONTRIBUTION TO SCIENCE"? May someone disrespect ME with such a statement! ;-)

Anyway, that's quite a resume. I had no idea Maxwell did so much more than his famous formulas concerning radio. Who cares if he wasn't much of a teacher?

Perhaps my sense of humor is warped (if the author's is), but I do'nt see this as disrespectful; provided it's accurate.
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by K5DVW on November 11, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
The dog's name was Flux... Flux the wonderdog.
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by AB5XZ on November 11, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Actually, those equations are Oliver Heaviside's version of Maxwell's equations.

Heaviside invented the operational calculus, of which the "del" operator is a part.

Oliver Heaviside is another dead electrical dude. He predicted the presence of the ionosphere (the Heaviside Layer), which is kind of important to us live hams.

73!
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by KA4KOE on November 11, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
KG4RUL:

Well, if Cliff AD7RG will put up with me long enough, the next in the series is

2 - Tesla
3 - Armstrong (not really humorous, his life was a Greek Tragedy), written straight
4 - Marconi

Now, if my email account does the China Syndrome from all the flames, I may or may not write #5. The local club people loved these articles.

:)

Don't worry, be happy, its RADIO!
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by KB1IVU on November 11, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Which one is the dog?
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by HAMFAN on November 11, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
K5DVW!! Flux.....that's great man. TNX for the laughs.

I'm so pleased to beat everyone else to the punch here by stating that the esteemed Mr. Maxwell was additionally the inventor of [drum roll please]....

THE FAN DIPOLE

And being the industrious tech that I am...my latest successful invention:

THE SCREWDRIVER MOBILE FAN DIPOLE

I and my many fans thank you.

BTW, Maxwell was (is) NCI 0279

73 KE4ENX
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by K4FAU on November 11, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Before we can state that Maxwell was truly a great man a couple of things need to be answered:

1. How fast could he recieve morse code?

2. Did he get his license before the made it "easy"?

3. Did he ever own a CB? Actually the more i think about it -- isn't he the father of CB...can't we blame all these CBr's on him since it was his theory of magnetism and capacitance that allowed Hertz to create the first working electromagnetic device?

4. What is his viewpoint on code vs no-code?

5. How did he get such a hot wife???

6. Did he say 73 or 73s... or the dreaded 10-4...

Brian

 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by K0RFD on November 11, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
K4FAU wrote:
> isn't he the father of CB...

Nobody knows who the father is...
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by KC0NYK on November 11, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
This article is being dutifully printed out for use someday when I want to teach and apprentice electrician class and just want to get thier undivided attention. The tounge in cheek approach is funny, gets the information across to the reader and may atually leave a bit of information lodged withing thier neurons. Damned Shame that!

As for all the rest of the repliers who can't seem to get off the CB thingy; GET A LIFE SOMEWHERE and possibly find an actual hobby...stacking bb's comes to mind.

Congrats on an actually amusing piece of work....will be looking for the next installment....can't wait to see how you treat the relationship between Nicky Tesla and Georgie Westinghouse.
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by KT8K on November 11, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
I enjoyed this post immensely, and don't see it as disrespectful at all.
Keep them coming, and may the flames go out before they find their way to your inbox.
73 de kt8k - Tim
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by KC8VWM on November 11, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
I am not sure what point your are trying to make in your article other than Maxwell was not particularly good at being a teacher?

73

Charles - KC8VWM
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by KE4MOB on November 11, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Interesting approach for sure. Instead of "assumed room temperature" how about "assumed ground potential"??

I kinda like the article. How many of us could (or would) care to write a short bio of...say...Art Collins in less than 400 words?

Any takers??

 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by KC8VWM on November 11, 2003 Mail this to a friend!

>>>>Oliver Heaviside is another dead electrical dude. He predicted the presence of the ionosphere (the Heaviside Layer), which is kind of important to us live hams. <<<<

I hear dead people?

Actually, you need to credit 2 individuals for the predicted existence & presence of the ionosphere.

It was 1902, when the American electrical engineer Arthur Edwin Kennelly and the British physicist and electrician Oliver Heaviside independently and almost simultaneously announce the probable existence of a layer of ionized gas, high in the atmosphere, that affects the propagation of radio waves and enables them to follow the curvature of the earth.

That's it for today's, "Dead People in Early Ham Radio Development" history lesson.

73

Charles - KC8VWM




 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by KC7ATO on November 11, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Is this the same Maxwell that also invented the Automobile. I know many celebrities including Jack Benny owned a "Maxwell".
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by N2XE on November 11, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Bravo! Excellent! Why couldn't you have been my Waves and Fields professor? I hope you're in the education field, what a breath of fresh air.

Looking forward to Dead Electrical Dudes No. 2

73,
N2XE
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by N9AVY on November 11, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
..and Jimmy's dear departed XYL later was reincarnated in a TV series ... my Mother The Car (it was a Maxwell ?). Wasn't one of the spnsors "Hertz" ?
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by KG4PRN on November 11, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Lest we not forget, Maxwell's equations formed the basis for some rather important work by one A. Einstein.

73 de KG4PRN
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by W0FM on November 11, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Well, at least we now know the origin of the dog-bone insulator. Poor Flux!

Terry, WØFM

(meant with no disrespect)
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by N4OGW on November 11, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
The version of Maxwell's equations you list is only for vacuum with NO charges or currents present. You also have the sign wrong in #3 (Faraday's law), and c in the wrong place:

1. div E = 4 pi rho

2. div B = 0

3. curl E = -1/c x dB/dt

4. curl B = 1/c x dE/dt + 4 pi/c J

rho=charge density
J=current density

I also assumed you use cgs not mks units :)

Torsten
N4OGW
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by KA4KOE on November 11, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
OGW:

My reference was Bill Orr's (w6sai-sk)Radio Handbook.
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by K1OU on November 11, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Didn't the Beatles have a song about this guy? Bang Bang Maxwell's Silver Hammer?
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by K3UD on November 11, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
NATHAN B. STUBBLEFIELD

The greatest dead electrical dude of them all.

73
George
K3UD
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by KE6PKJ on November 11, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
You failed to mention that he was also a coffee baron.
Maxwell's coffee... "Good to the last drop".
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by K8KS on November 11, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
N2WEC, sirrah, please no personal attacks or insults on live dudes. Vielen Dank.

73'eseseseseseses

Kaz
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by KY6R on November 11, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
You should market a series of these as trading cards. Make sure the gum in the packs are Garlic Flavor.
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by KC7MM on November 11, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Wonderfully irreverent and enlightening. I certainly hope that you are a teacher, and a high school teacher to be more specific. The kids would love your presentation style.

Please keep 'em coming. I enjoyed this so much I showed it to my wife, who teaches third grade. We both had a wonderful laugh from it, and from some of the comments it brought out from our ham friends. Flux the dog, dog bone insulators, etc.!

Thanks for a great read.

Dale KC7MM
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by W3DCG on November 11, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Hair-raising Nikola Tesla remains my favorite. His neat invention is better than Selsen Blue.
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by KE0VH on November 11, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Excellent fun! I agree, it would be cool to be remembered this way, although I don't think I have quite the accomplishments to merit it. (HI)

Good job!
73'
KEØVH
www.geocities.com/ke0vh
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by W3DCG on November 11, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Oh great! Tesla is next, my favorite hair-raising
Electrical Dude!
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by WPE9JRL on November 11, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
I thought I'd never see those horrid formulae again. And now this. Making light of our fallen elecrical heroes. Geesh!

You should be soundly whacked with the wouff-hong.

 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by W8BBS on November 11, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
The smartest human being ever to walk the planet is Karl Frederic Gauss. He believed the the sum of the angles of a triangle wasn't always 180 degrees, and to prove it he invented the branch of mathematics called probablity and statistics. He never told anyone about his theory, perhaps because he knew they would think him insane. It wasn't until Einstein, hundreds of years later, that he was proven correct.

I hope Karl is in the top 10!

Another consideration, although not really an electrical dude, is Pythagoras, for his wonderful theorem. Where would we be without it?

bruce
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by RobertKoernerExAE7G on November 11, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Everybody knows that Al Gore is the father of CB radio.
Bob
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by WILLY on November 11, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
"
by KE6PKJ on November 11, 2003
You failed to mention that he was also a coffee baron.
Maxwell's coffee... "Good to the last drop". "


You beat me to it!!

<g>


Oh well - another cup and I'll be up for the race - me with a straight key against my computer set at 45wpm.
We're seeing which can send the most '5's in one minute.
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by N1KB on November 11, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
This is wonderful. Looking forward to all of them!

John, N1KB
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by OLDFART13 on November 11, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
"BTW, Maxwell was (is) NCI 0279"
73 KE4ENX

Now your being disrepectfull.
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by OLDFART13 on November 11, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
"BTW, Maxwell was (is) NCI 0279"
73 KE4ENX

Now you’re being disrespectful.
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by N4OGW on November 11, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
>My reference was Bill Orr's (w6sai-sk)Radio Handbook.

Not everything in books is correct :)

Torsten
N4OGW
(currently teaching electromag)
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by KB2CPW on November 11, 2003 Mail this to a friend!

I loved the piece! I learned the following:

1. W3DGC has dandruff and uses a tesla device to rid himself of it. :-)

2. People looked skanky way back then. No matter how smart they were.

3. Al Gore owned a Tram D 201 with a VFO.

4. Dogs can be used as insulating devices.

5. There are always three and a half hams who add to the mix who have no sense of humor and take offense to a little satire which also brings forth learning. (FWIW I used Pythag's theorem to figure this out A2+B2= 3 squares)I dont know how to make the 2's go up so I know its wrong but you get the drift.

6. Please keep them coming as I enjoyed it greatly. Cards would be nice and collectable..

Regards to all, Richy
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by K4PIT on November 11, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
OK, maybe I’m being a little harsh, but I do feel that it is disrespectful to refer to such a man or most any deceased individual (What if the deceased were your father) as:

(Insert name) boy, the homely individual AKA the dead dude.


It just seems to me that ribbing a dead person is distasteful. And I could be wrong, but it looks to me like Mr. Maxwell might have been able to put a serious @$$ whipping on someone calling him names while he was alive and he just isn’t afforded that opportunity while dead so, I think his closest living relative should be contacted just in case he might want to oblige.

When I was a child I was taught to address adults as Sir and Ma’am and to respect the dead. Maybe the light hearted people who see this as fun and would like to teach their children this way are responsible for giving us some of the critters they call kids today.

BTW, his wife is a babe and that’s a compliment I would give Mr. Maxell face to face.

As a rule of thumb, I try not to say (or write) anything behind someone’s back that I wouldn’t say to their face, man to man. Of course this requires two men.
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by K5TED on November 11, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
I liked it.
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by K4JSR on November 11, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Nobody noticed that Maxwell was the father of one of the Three Stooges; curl E.
And the former Vice President did not have a CB radio.
He was the inventor of the internet by using his world
famous Al Gore Rhythms.
Now who can tell me who that famous strip tease dancer
was that used to do the fan dipole dance?
Boy! All this thinking can really be a pain, which is
kinda like hurting!
7 and a 3, Cal K4JSR
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by KE2IV on November 11, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
So what?

A college Sophmore in the year 2003 decides to impart his recent "discovery" of basic electical principles upon us.

So what?

Why am I not impressed?

I can't wait for this guy's Junior year....

Oh, boy oh boy...!!!
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by KA4KOE on November 11, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
IV:

Never fear, laddie, there's a lot more where that came from! Hold on to your corset!!
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by KC0LPV on November 12, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Oh, good, another "dividing line".

So tell us, what age (or educational level) must you be to participate in discussions with the Old Ones?

Jim kv0lpv
27 and an MS in Physics, do I qualify?

>So what?
>
>A college Sophmore in the year 2003 decides to >impart his recent "discovery" of basic electical >principles upon us.
>
>So what?
>
>Why am I not impressed?
>
>I can't wait for this guy's Junior year....
>
>Oh, boy oh boy...!!!
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by DROLLTROLL on November 12, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
KE2IV writes,

"So what?

A college Sophmore in the year 2003 decides to impart his recent "discovery" of basic electical principles upon us.

So what?

Why am I not impressed?

I can't wait for this guy's Junior year....

Oh, boy oh boy...!!!"


I say to the 50 something George (KE2IV), sophomore is spelled with an "O" after the ph, not "sophmore".
 
THIS ARTICLE IS IN EXTREMELY POOR TASTE  
by HFHAM2 on November 12, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
While I think it is worthy to pay homage to great scientists such as Maxwell, I think this article is in very poor taste. This man was obviously brilliant in his time and for him to be spoken about as some dead guy is disgusting.

Why didn't you go the whole hog and call him an old dead white man (as that's where you obviously got the phrase from)? It was old dead white men just like Maxwell who created the modern world and we owe them a great debt of gratitude. For this pea brain to hold such a man up to scorn is appalling.

The "author" of this trash should be ashamed of himself.

This is what happens when CB meets amateur radio!
 
RE: THIS ARTICLE IS IN EXTREMELY POOR TASTE  
by KG4RUL on November 12, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
HFHAM2?

Is that one a them there CB callin signs?

Dennis - KG4RUL
 
RE: THIS ARTICLE IS IN EXTREMELY POOR TASTE  
by HFHAM2 on November 12, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
>>HFHAM2?
>>Is that one a them there CB callin signs?
>>Dennis - KG4RUL

No, it's actually the eHam login name of an Amateur Extra Class ham who passed 5, 13 and 20 wpm code tests.
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by N9CYS on November 12, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Put down the iron and lighten up guys! Remember, laughing is the most fun you can have without taking your clothes off.

Clever! I liked it - more dead electrical dudes! Certainly a nice break from the code-no code BS!

Jim, N9CYS
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by ZL1TLT on November 12, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
WARNING, WARNING!!! Thin ice :-)
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by KA4KOE on November 12, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
RUL:

Think Tesla. SPELL it T - E - S - L - A.

PAN
 
RE: THIS ARTICLE IS IN EXTREMELY POOR TASTE  
by KG4VCG on November 12, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
HFHAM2, the article is even more sinister than his subtle ridicule of the white race that you have noted. Everyone knows that the reference to the planet Saturn is code for Saturn the Devil, an astrological, not astronomical reference, a holdover from the Age of Darkness and Tarot Cards. Furthermore, if one uses the letters “Sat” from Saturn and combines and rearranges letters found in the rest of the words of the article, one can easily read “Sat-a-n R-u-l-e-s”. More disturbing, the last two phrases of the last sentence ( “at peace with himself and his Maker”) read backwards is: “Rekam sih dna flesmih htiw ecaep ta” which we all know is an old witch’s curse with the following translation.: “ May lightning strike your Yagi on Field Day.” Oh, the humanity….
 
RE: THIS ARTICLE IS IN EXTREMELY POOR TASTE  
by TECH2003 on November 12, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
If you gonna show pictures of old, outdated people then show a picture of the CW ops. Dinousours indeed.
 
RE: THIS ARTICLE IS IN EXTREMELY POOR TASTE  
by AD3G on November 12, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Hey TECH2003.....A. Get a call(ie. don't hide behind a bogus username. B.Learn to spell..it's spelled DINOSAUR. C.I'm still fairly young (under 40) and love CW....hardly a "dinosaur" ,and don't shove it in anybodys face...it's a free world,if you don't like CW,spin the VFO (I honestly doubt you even know where the CW subands are). D.You must live a fairly humdrum life by flaming here on Eham ie. lots of time on ur hands.
 
RE: THIS ARTICLE IS IN EXTREMELY POOR TASTE  
by TECH2003 on November 12, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Hey TECH2003.....A. Get a call(ie. don't hide behind a bogus username. B.Learn to spell..it's spelled DINOSAUR. C.I'm still fairly young (under 40) and love CW....hardly a "dinosaur" ,and don't shove it in anybodys face...it's a free world,if you don't like CW,spin the VFO (I honestly doubt you even know where the CW subands are). D.You must live a fairly humdrum life by flaming here on Eham ie. lots of time on ur hands.


Ok AD3G, since you don’t have the mental capacity to respond to my comments and you can only point out one simple typing mistake let me look at your errors.

1. You should leave a space after call and (.
2. It is i.e. not ie.
3. You should put a space after B. and before learn.
4. It should be spelled anybody’s with an apostrophe, not “anybodys face.”
5. You put spaces BEFORE your commas.
6. ur is not a word.
7. There are other mistakes with the commas, periods and spaces also.

Finally you, like me, must live a fairly humdrum life as you are also flaming here on eham i.e. (not ie.) and have lots of time on your (not ur stupid) hands.

No Coders-2
Pro Coders-0
 
RE: THIS ARTICLE IS IN EXTREMELY POOR TASTE  
by W0FM on November 12, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
So, can we take these comments one step further and state that "white, dead, electrical dudes can't jump"?

WØFM
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by JAMES_BENEDICT_EX_N8FVJ on November 12, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
The math that lead to the 'super string' theory was developed back in the 1850s by a Swiss gentleman and was discovered 25 years ago.

Perhaps other lost and important data exists.
 
RE: THIS ARTICLE IS IN EXTREMELY POOR TASTE  
by AA9ZS on November 12, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Howdy,

I thoroughly enjoyed "Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1"
From what I've read about the man, I think James
would have enjoyed it too were he not past caring.

Dinosours? Yes, there are many dinosaurs still
inhabiting the earth. Archaic beasts with sour
dispositions. They come in two variations,
pro and con. They're often ellipse abusers too.

I hope there will be more Dead Electrical Dudes
featured in eHAM. Perhaps George Simon Ohm,
Alesandro Volta, Michael Faraday and Andre Ampere
will stand in turn. It's much easier to remember
the theory if it's seasoned with a bit of history.

Please don't kill me if I've misspelled a name.
It's due to my aging memory. Many years ago Jim
Norris, a ham, taught what we referred to as the
history of electronics at my high school. I'd say
the technique works!

As dead electrical due Ben Franklin might say,
now lets get out there and electrocute a turkey!

Thanks Phil, excellent article. Please write
more when you can find the time.

73,
AA9ZS
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by KG4PZZ on November 12, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Am I the only one that, after a closer examination, thinks that the dog just isn't real?

Oh and uh... CW is the death of sideband because I can't type 20 words a minute in front of an FCC examiner. BPL will rule the earth and Ham Radio will be cast into satan's hands, and No-Coders will rule the underworld. Uhm... Lemme think of more dead horses to beat. I'll get back to you guys with more.

(As for the article being in poor taste, I think it walks along a line that's actually quite fuzzy. Some find it offensive, some find it humorous. It's a person-to-person thing.)

Fred
KG4PZZ
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by KA4KOE on November 12, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
ZS, don't worry. IF you read up the page, there's 3 more in the mill coming right atcha!

E Pluribus Uranium, POOF!

(demonic incantation followed by this demon evaporating in a cloud of noxious sulfur fumes).
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by N4UM on November 12, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Sally Rand did the dance with the fans!
 
James Clerk Maxwell  
by HFHAM2 on November 12, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
If anyone is interested in actually learning something about the Scottish mathematician and scientist James (Clerk) Maxwell (rather than just bitching or mocking), see:

http://silas.psfc.mit.edu/Maxwell/maxwell.html
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by WR8Y on November 12, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
KOE,

Keep 'em coming.
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by KF4LVC on November 12, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Thanks for such a great little history lesson! I really like to see this sort of thing posted on eham...it's what we're all about! Can we request a copy of the full pictures you have sent to us via email? I think it would be great for a "Ham history Hall-of-Fame"!

Again, thanks for the great post.

73's
KF4LVC
Vince
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by K3PZ on November 12, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
That was a great piece....keep 'em coming. Lighten up guys, it's only humor!

Paul Zora
K3PZ
Port St lucie, FL
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by KE2IV on November 12, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Dear DOLLTROLL,

As you said: "I say to the 50 something George (KE2IV), sophomore is spelled with an "O" after the ph, not "sophmore"."

And you are absolutely correct and get a gold star in the back of your "copy book"!

Now, about the word "anybody".

Merriam's will let you get away with it (at least as per my Bookshelf '95 CD), but in fact that is NOT really correct.

The correct word is "ANYONE".

As to the rest of this sorry thread's grammar lesson ... well, who cares?

And why, oh why, are we still bantering about this banal posting about Maxwell? Anyone who has read three years worth of CQ magazine issues (er...I think that is about their "recycle" period) would know this aracane trivia (er...is "arcane trivia" an oxymoron?).


73,
George
KE2IV

P.S. And yes, KILL THE CODE for licensing purposes!
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by KC7YRN on November 12, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
>Lest we not forget, Maxwell's equations formed the basis for some rather important work by one A. Einstein.

>73 de KG4PRN

Not enough people know this!

The paper that introduced relativity to the world was entitled "On the Electrodynamics of Moving Bodies".

Maxwell's equations have relativity hidden inside them, at least for someone like Einstein who could ask and answer profound questions that only look simple. Einstein wondered what it would be like to travel alongside a beam of light.

Oh, if you think it's complicated, get a good E&M book. I can't find the one I'm after, but there was a 70's-vintage series that had beautiful and intuitive explanations of the div and curl operators. Once you understand those, the only strange thing is the idea of displacement current.

73 de KC7YRN

 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by KA4KOE on November 12, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Vince:

What ever are you asking me about? Please clarify or email me and we'll discuss off board. The sharks and the dolphins seem to be enjoying themselves.

P
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by K4JSR on November 12, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Any further discussion of this subject would be enough
to Bohr a Magneton! Go ahead and wave that one off.
Time for everyone to line up for their meds!
7 and a 3'seseseseseseseseses!
Cal K4JSR
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by K7CCC on November 12, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Yep. This is swell. I don't think Maxwell would have minded this article, and if he did, then I wouldn't invite him over for MNF and beers.

Keep 'em coming and I hope to see Hertz and Tesla as No. 2 and 3. Save Marconi for No. 13. ;^)

73, Dave - K7CCC
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by N9ESH on November 13, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Love the beard . He would have made one awesome looking biker dude.
 
RE: THIS ARTICLE IS IN EXTREMELY POOR TASTE  
by AD3G on November 13, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
TECH2003.....Lets discuss this on 14.010 .........OOPS,silly me.... I don't think you can operate there. If you have a callsign USE IT!!!! don't hide behind a phony,bogus username. Incidentally,I won't even justify the ur comment,if you don't know what it means,then we're not even on the same playing field. Thanks for pointing out my grammatical errors,look even closer,you'll probably find more. Apparently,from reading your eham profile,CW is a hurdle you can't or won't master.TRY it,you'll like it hihi
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by KD7YHC on November 13, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Try this link:
http://www.sonnetusa.com/bio/maxbio.pdf

The poetry and translations are the best, for instance:
VALENTINE BY A TELEGRAPH CLERK TO A TELEGRAPH CLERK
or THE VAMPYRE.

I think Maxwell was close to an understanding of the energy-matter equivalence.

 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by KD7YOE on November 13, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
The dog's real name was Sparky, of course.

KD7YOE
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by KC8VWM on November 13, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Sparky....LOL

Yes, and the photo you see depicted here originated from the Dayton Hamfest 13th of June in the year of our lord 1831. The lady shown in the photo is an exhibitor demonstating a product from the hair club for men.



 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by K4GLM on November 13, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Can you imagine what it was like to grow up for Heinrich Hertz?

Every year in school, same thing. "Class, one at a time now. Stand and tell us your name. (Standing, dramatic pause), Heiney Hertz!" (Class in uproar.)

I nominate Heiney for your series.

Shannon Boal K4GLM
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by KA4KOE on November 13, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
OK, possible dudes for No. 5....(2-4 already "in the can")

Alessandro Volta
Henrich Hertz (Hiney)
Galvano
Faraday
Louis Ampere'
Georg Simon Ohm
Lee Deforest
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by K1OU on November 13, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
How about Mahlon Loomis for an article?
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by WA2JJH on November 13, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Hey Philip it is Mike. Great Job. The calculas is correct too! Funny as heck as well.

Yes indeed Major Armstrong(a ham) invented superhet RX, FM Mod for mil. apps and broadcast FM stereo!
That low life Sarnoff ripped him off on his patents.

Sarnoff was the LID that received the titanic message on spark gap CW of course. Sarnoff left Marconi wireless to start the Blue and RED TV Networks.
I think they turned into NBC and CBS?

The book to read is....Man of high fidelity.
This is Major Armstrongs biography. It is indeed tragic!

I recommend the book very highly. The book will explain the electronics of radio so well, that even an existential philosophy major WILL understand it!

The book has electronics and many ultra important life lessons!

TNX PHILIP fer the humor! You seem to have a flair for it.

73 DE MIKE
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by WA2JJH on November 13, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Dead electrical dudes and irony! We all know that EDISON invented the motion picture projector.
Edison saw no real application for it!
So he sold it dirt cheap to a bunch of just off the boat immigrants.

One of them was MAYER. The other was GOLDIN. I do not think the third dead dudes **** was METRO!

Edison also invented the tube diode detector and did not see the application. Edison just added an electrode to one of his early electic light bulbs.
Edison saw a voltage on the electrode, and had no idea what was happening!

Well FLEMMING saw it as the first Valve, aka Tube!
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by WY7I on November 13, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
I think the guy in the picture looks suspiciously like K7SS...
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by K2WH on November 13, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Hey Yo man.
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by TECH2003 on November 13, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
CW is dead dude.

Steve
NCI-3069
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by AD3G on November 14, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Diminished...yes. Dead...no.
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by WA5BHR on November 14, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
it aint diminished here
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by BUFFOON on November 14, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
TECH2003 blathered:
<< If you gonna show pictures of old, outdated people then show a picture of the CW ops. Dinousours indeed. >>

How about saying something constructive once in a while? Your posts generally add NOTHING to the conversation, other than to drag it down into the gutter.

Try a dictionary too...
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by AA9ZS on November 14, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Hello,

Too often overlooked, although equally important to
the evolution of AC machines as Tesla (although not
as flamboyant) I nominate Charles "Proteus" Steinmetz.

73
AA9ZS
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by WA2JJH on November 14, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Steinmetz is over looked. You are correct. He wanted to send electrical power through the air. It works for small distances. However 300,000 VAC high tension lines are the idustry standard today.

 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by KG4KTW on November 14, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
K4PIT

I hope that you have never said anything bad or negative about anyone, for you will be a very BIG hippocrite.
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by NI0C on November 14, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
In the No-Code world of TECH2003, "ur is not a word."

If you had acquired basic literacy in the language of Morse code (such literacy has been a requirement since the hobby's origins), you would have known the "ur" is simply an abbreviation for "your." Such standard abbreviations are used in CW qso's and also included in the code practice (and tests) these days.

I'm not sure why you feel the need to list your NCI number. Ask yourself, what, in terms of accomplishment, did you do to acquire a membership in NCI?

73 de Chuck NI0C
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by OLDFART13 on November 14, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Petrus Peregrinus
William Gilbert
Stephen Gray
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by K4PIT on November 14, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
KG4KTW on November 14, 2003:

>>>K4PIT

>>>I hope that you have never said anything bad or >>>negative about anyone, for you will be a very BIG >>>hippocrite.

Hi Sheri, I certainly have said and done things that I am not proud of, many times in the past. I try not to do that anymore.

I had an uncle who passed away and had several people mention that they had never heard him say anything disrespectful about anyone, ever. He was a decorated WWII veteran and a genuinely great man. I still sometimes justify giving criticism where I feel it is appropriate. The comments I made about the homely dead electrical dude article, I thought, were in keeping with my uncle’s example. After giving the matter a second thought, I should have said what my uncle would have said…nothing at all.

In the words of the infinitely wise John Anderson; “I’m just an ole chunk of coal, I know, but I’m gonna be a diamond someday!”

May I apologize to you and your husband and I will try to put my nose back where it belongs.

73, 88
k4pit




 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by WR8Y on November 14, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
NCI?

What is that?

I googled it and got "Nuclear Control Institute".
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by OLDFART13 on November 14, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Of course lets not forget Thévenin and Norton.
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by N0RTU on November 14, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
How refreshing to see something printed here on eHam that isn't a flame or such.
Keep up the good work........
Who knows, maybe some of us will actually learn something!!

73 and Safe Hamming to All
Mike
N0RTU
A proud FISTS member
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by N0RTU on November 14, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
CW is a dead dude??
I don't know where you are from, but here on Earth among intelligent folk,
CW THRIVES!!!!!!!!!
30 wpm and speed still increasing captain!
C'mon in kid, FEEL THE THRILL OF HAVING THE SKILL!!!!!!!!
73 and Safe Hamming to All
Mike
N0RTU
A proud FISTS member
We KNOW Code!
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by SM0AOM on November 15, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
As the great Charles Proteus Steinmetz
(without him we might still be solving differential
equations when dimensioning steady-state AC circuits)
has been nominated, it also would be nice to see
his colleague at General Electric E.F.W. Alexanderson,
and radiotelephony pioneer Reginald Fessenden on the list of coming presentations.

73/

Karl-Arne
SM0AOM
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by WB2GMK on November 15, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Beautiful! Delightfully irreverent. Yet I learned a few things I didn't know before. If more of us hams were this flip, with a bit more of that "kiss-my-ass" attitude, we might learn more theory than we now do ... who can manage to learn from a deadly-dull geek who takes himself so seriously, never smiles .... at least we'd appear to be a lot more fun, and maybe the young folks who think we are impossibly dull would change their minds and ham radio wouldn't be dying, as it is now. Keep up the good work, kimosabee! Ciao.
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by KC2CAG on November 16, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Hey! I really enjoyed this! As an almost 58 year-old Electrical Engineer, I'm getting closer and closer to being a dead electrical dude myself.

My favorite room temperature sort of electrical dude is Georg Simon Ohm. I celebrate his February birthday each year with a new limerick and Krispy Kreme donuts for all my colleagues at my workplace. Georg was quite a character, and his equations are a heck of a lot simpler than Jimmy Maxwell's!!

Keep the new ones coming!

Tom
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by WA2JJH on November 16, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Philip, you have a smash hit!

As soon as the%$#%(&^%*% semester is over maybe you would do one on Major Armstrong. I will give you the facts. His suicide was unfortunite. The inventor of the superhet RCVR and FM STEREO.

Armstrongs wife did collect 10 million dollars in 1962 from RCA/SARNOFF. SARNOFF just ripped off Armstrongs patent.

""Man of high fidelity"" was required reading when I got my B.S.E.E back in 1982. Hope the book is still in print

I do not know how you could use your wit to make an ultra sad ending of this ham/EE/inventor funny.
However, I would not mind trying to do it.
Call me on the landline/telco.

73 DE MIKE
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by WA2JJH on November 16, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
OK, I see you just published Armstrong. So much for a co-write!
 
RE: THIS ARTICLE IS IN EXTREMELY POOR TASTE  
by AD3G on November 17, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
"Finally you, like me, must live a fairly humdrum life as you are also flaming here on eham i.e. (not ie.) and have lots of time on your (not ur stupid) hands" Tech2003.........If anyone is stupid,it is you,for obviously not knowing CW abbreviations,or to know CW,or to upgrade to a higher class of license.In other words,take a good look in the mirror before you call anyone names. To answer the questions of WR8Y......NCI is no code international (for those that either can't or feel they don't have to learn CW).And,incidentally,TECH2003(or whatever your name is),I don't have a humdrum life,because I seldom,if ever, post ANYTHING here or elsewhere in response to pointless comments such as yours,it's just that you seem to have a problem with letting anyone on this post(or any other)know your true identity.So,we come back to my main contention...don't hide behind a phony user name,use your call,or are you afraid to use it? If you don't like CW,that's fine,but don't degrade people that do like CW (or any other aspect of the hobby for that matter)
 
RE: THIS ARTICLE IS IN EXTREMELY POOR TASTE  
by TUBEGUY on November 17, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
AD3G you hit the nail on the head. He will never learn CW because he probably can't. He's still wet behind the ears and obviously has a lot to learn. NO CODERS 2 PROCODERS 10
 
RE: THIS ARTICLE IS IN EXTREMELY POOR TASTE  
by KA4KOE on November 17, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
I just want to know how the code/no-code arguments on this thread figure into a substantive discussion on our dearly parted Jimmy?

Just my 1.8723 cents worth.

Philip
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by VE3XDB on November 17, 2003 Mail this to a friend!

Thanks for the interesting article, with a good sense of fun!

I have been looking reading the eHam.net site for several months now, and can usually avoid the "code-no code" blather and articles. This one faked me out. I think some people, on both sides of this issue, desperately need to get a life. Go down to your local foodbank and see if they need a hand for an hour. Amateur radio is fun, its a hobby, but let's keep things in the proper perspective.

Respectfully faked out and fooled (this time),

Doug VE3XDB
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by WA2JJH on November 17, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
i LIKED WHAT THE VE3 station said about putting things in perspective. Yes we can blather on about CW.

However is not the history of radio electronics told in a funny way better!

Philip(never call him phil.) should write a high school history book about all the great electrical and radio pioneers. Use some of his 13 herbs and spices humor so the kids will think it is a MAD Magazine.

They will learn electronics, math, physics and radio in an off beat style. Maybe the kids will take a great interest and become innovators too!

Just the title...Dead electrical dudes, will spark interest! The U.S. has lost it's technical edge through out history.

The life styles of the dawn of the dead electrical dudes, do have many important life and business lessons
too!

What was Major Armstrongs last meal? Did Marconi like
macoroni! Did Tesla always have bad hair days are just a few.

Make it funny and an easy read. I could not put down
""Man of high fidelity""(Major Armstrongs life).

We had to read the book for an EE course. The teacher very wisely put in questions from the book.

So many dead dudes to cover. I guess Ben Franklyn, Simon Ohm, Henry Hertz,Maxwell, Deforest, thevinin,Voltair, Ampere, Norton, Willium Shockly(nobel prize for transistor),Faraday,Marconi,Edison
Steimetz, and perhaps R.L. Drake and collins.

Could be a good text book, if there is wit and lotsa pictures.


I left out MORSE, so this would not turn into a CW/ANTI-CW thing.

73 DE MIKE Philip, consult a publisher.


 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by KC7COI on November 20, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Outstanding.....more, more, more. Please.
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by KC8VUC on November 22, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Ok, to start this I've had my tech ticket since Feb., I've yet to learn code, could care less if it is phased out, and could learn it if I had time right now. There!

Great article. I agree with the majority of the repliers to it, coupling history and humor is a great way to teach. That is exactly why my favorite teachers that I've had are my favorite. A little humor makes learning less like working.

To the flamers; please try to refrain from posting. I know that you have your own opinions, and you have every right to express them. What you don't have is the right to belittle others for theirs. Also, please try not to hack and slash my spelling and/or grammer. I'm sure that this would be a contest you'ld lose at.

One more time, great article, keep 'em comming.

-73's all
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by WA0FDV on May 10, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Juvenile.
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by KA4KOE on July 18, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Yes, you are.
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 1  
by KA4KOE on July 26, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
This work is
© 2004 Philip Neidlinger
 
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