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Dead Electrical Dudes No. 5
Philip Neidlinger (KA4KOE)
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December 31, 2003
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This Month's Stiff: Georg Simon Ohm
Entered Mortal coil: 16 March 1789
Assumed Room Temperature: 6 July 1854
One of the favorite movies of my misspent youth was National Lampoon's Animal House. In this film, we see fraternity boys carousing, drinking, womanizing, gambling, and generally not taking anything seriously. Not surprising is the fact that most of the boys have abysmal grades, and that their fraternity has been placed on “super secret” probation. Georgy would have fit right in. Ohm's father, Johann, was a self-educated working class man, i.e. blue collar, who had apparently busted his chops getting Georgy into Erlangen University. The old man was fed up with rumors of his son's excessive dancing, ice skating, and pool playing. After only three semesters, Georgy was pulled out of school and sent to Switzerland where he more or less had to grow up.
What followed after this enforced leave of absence from Erlangen was a series of unsatisfying teaching posts as young Ohm drifted through life. All he wanted was a full professorship at a prestigious institution. Ohm further educated himself and conducted independent research while holding a teacher's position at the Jesuit Gymnasium of Cologne starting in 1817. Publishing his research, Georgy realized, would get him that coveted post….and research he did! In 1827, after a considerable amount of labor, head scratching, and experimentation, he published his results in the paper Die galvanische Kette, mathematisch bearbeittet. This was quite a mouthful, even in German (read Mark Twain's essay, “The Awful German Language”, if you really want to laugh). Anyway, the end result of all that formal written Hun verboseness was
Volts = Amperes times Ohms.
This simple little formula defines all things electrical and electronic. If you don't know it, learn it, or at least do a little bit of research on your own. I can't do everything for you kids, okay?
Unfortunately, this electrical thunderbolt out of the blue went largely unnoticed, and Ohm's theory was greeted with less than rampant enthusiasm from his professional peers. In 1841, the Royal Society awarded Georgy the Copley Medal, acknowledging his contributions in electrical research. In 1852, Ohm achieved his lifelong dream and became the Chair of Physics at the University of Munich. The Reaper had the last laugh as poor Ohm only got to enjoy the fruits of his labor for two years before being mowed down by the aforementioned Reaper's scythe in 1854. Poor Georgy!!!!!
Ohm's Theory is now Ohm's Law. Learn it. Live it. Don't ever forget it!!!
References: Mark Twain, “The Awful German Language”, http://www.bdsnett.no/klaus/twain/
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by OLDFART13 on November 27, 2003
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>>>>>by WILLY on November 19, 2003
by OLDFART13 on October 30, 2003
--- "
What I want to know is: How did you two guys post your replies 3 weeks BEFORE the original post?
That's right folks! You've seen it right here on eHam!
The discovery of Negative Time !
Or: is OLDFART13 really Doc Wonmug of Alley Oop fame?
Stay tuned right here, for the next episode.<<<<<
As the kids say "Oops, I did it again."
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by WPE9JRL on December 31, 2003
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While I was Chief Engineer of an FM broadcast station, we had to apply ohms law for our DJ's to monitor the transmitter power output. The Jocks had to multiply Plate Voltage by Plate Current and then an "efficiency factor". The Jocko's then had to determine if the Xmtr was outputting a legal amount of power, then log the readings every three hours.
Most of the DJ's were lucky if they could tie their shoes or order a pizza correctly over the telephone.....let alone apply Ohm's Law and read transmitter meters!
Just another application of this Dead Dude's theory in real life.
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by WA0LSS on December 31, 2003
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DED's is the reason I look forward to logging onto EHAM in the mornings... Not that the aren't a number of worthwhile features and resources, but it's the member contributions that make this a great place. Just decided to subscribe and send in an end of year check and this is the biggest reason... Keep'em coming!
Happy New Year and 73's
Scott WA0LSS
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by KA5N on December 31, 2003
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I am waiting for an article on "Electrically Dead Dudes" about guys reduced to ground potential by the electric chair.
Allen
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by K3ESE on December 31, 2003
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You forgot to mention the famous portrait of Georgy sitting on the stove, entitled, "Ohm on the Range."
And the part where he asks his fiancee to call him "Ohm, sweet Ohm."
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by W0FM on December 31, 2003
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Or when he dressed up weird and they called him "Ohm My Darling Clementine!"
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by N9AVY on December 31, 2003
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Thanks Phil for another light-hearted look back into history. When is the video coming out ?
Jerry, N9AVY
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by KA4KOE on December 31, 2003
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Well, I was planning on selling the screenplay, but the title "The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen" was already taken. Note that this film dipped to new lows in mediocrity, and I wondered if dear Sean had a senior moment when he signed the contract.
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by AH6RR on December 31, 2003
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Thanks Philip for another great one!!!! Oh you guys forgot the Southern Rock Ballad to Ol Greg.
"Sweet Ohm Alabama"
73's Roland AH6RR
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by WA8QNN on December 31, 2003
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Keep 'em coming Phil. Certainly Ohm's law is the Holy Grail for us contemporary electrical dudes. Unlike the Holy Grail for some other dudes from antiquity (In England circa 932 A.D.).
Larry
WA8QNN
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by W1LC on December 31, 2003
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Actually, with these clever articles, isn't Phil paying homage to the English seekers of the Holy Grail? (i.e., Monty Python and the quest for the....)
"Bring out ya dead!" ;-)
73,
Dana, W1LC
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by KA4KOE on December 31, 2003
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ESE:
My old Rat Shack VOM has that! It says "Ohm Range". Too weird man for coincidences.
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by WB2WIK on December 31, 2003
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Even Dorothy from the Wizard of Oz referenced the unmistakable glare of this man, thus...
"Lions and Tigers and Bears, Ohm Eye!"
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by N2WEC on December 31, 2003
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Nice. If the text books read like this, just imagine the history the "Children" would learn. Its like a college professor I had once said; "No story, No sale". Another good one.
73
Bill - N2WEC
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by N0RTU on December 31, 2003
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Great Job once again Phillip!
Let us not forget Georges musical contribution to the world!
What music?
Why....
O(hm)klahoma
Of course!
See, the therapy is helping...
73 and Happy New Year
Mike
N0RTU
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by K1OU on January 1, 2004
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And Dorothy clicked her heels and pondered that there was no place like Ohm.
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by WA8QNN on January 1, 2004
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Wait a minute, what is a dude anyway?
To W1LC: I'm not dead yet. At least not until an African swallow carries a coconut.
When is this thread going to become a code, no-code debate.
Larry
WA8QNN
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by W1NK on January 1, 2004
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Let us not forget Georg's contribution to meditation and yoga.... The chanting of:
"Ohm......Ohm.......Ohm....."
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by KD5WIH on January 1, 2004
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Doesn't look like a chick to me! :)
73,
KD5WIH
>RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 5 by K2WH on December 31, >2003
>They aren't Dudes.
>
>K2WH
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by KA4KOE on January 1, 2004
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Lesser known facts...
The world's first mass cloning experient by candy magnate William Wonka was undertaken using Georgy's cells. Remember the Ohm-pa-Lohm-pas?
Short lil buggers with orange hair and an annoying tendancy to dance and sing....
Oh, the horror or it all!
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by K4JSR on January 1, 2004
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Philip;
You have shown your OHM-NIPOTENCE and are now a
certified Bad OHM-BRE who has been elevated by a higher potential to this VOLTED position. You have
RESISTED the big drop while remaining high on your
CURRENT events. WATT is important though is your power
to keep your Ohm-stead exemption intact. I sure hope
that "SIEMEN SAYS" that you can conduct yourself to
keep writing these informative and amusing articles.
In the mean time I hope that you can see De Forrest
for the trees and can dodge any FLEMING emails sent
your way! Have a Happy New Year!
73, Cal K4JSR
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by KA4KOE on January 1, 2004
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So it should be just about right for your comprehension level, aye?
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by AB0TJ on January 1, 2004
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K2WH: They are males, therefore they are dudes. I don't understand why you always have such a big problem with the word dude.
73,
Alex
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by AE6IP on January 1, 2004
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Just to start the new year out right, I'd like to point out that E=IxR is *NOT* Ohm's law.
But it'll do for people who don't need to do any real electronics.
73
Marty
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by K4JSR on January 1, 2004
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E/IR with a circle around it is
"OHM MADE" PIE! Please don't *BOHR* us with any
further details. Be glad that we are just dealing with DC so far... I'd hate to face those KILLER HERTZ
about now. Or would you pull an Edison on us and
show infinite impedance to the existance of AC?
you know, NO ADMITTTANCE! I'm outa here before those
Rude Mean Squares get here and turn this to an average thread! One final thought from a thoroughly
fevered mind; Phil, wasn't "ded dude, ded dude,
ded dude ded dude ded dude the first measure of the
theme song from "The Pink Panther"? With this I sink
ever deeper into the Sellars. :-@
73, Cal K4JSR
Just remember, 2/3 of a pun is P U!
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by KA4KOE on January 1, 2004
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Dunno Cal, I'm afraid I'm not up on musical hysteria.
If it ain't Ohm's law, then WHOSE is it? Don't tell me all this time I've spent LIVING A LIE!!!!! Gimme a Xanaz please...my hands are shaking!! I canna take anymore laddie!! Oh no, the Ohm-pa-Lohmpas are coming to take me away, HA HA!
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by KD5WIH on January 2, 2004
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There seems to be a lot of confusion over which is "Ohm's law", some say it's P = I x E, others say it's E = I x R.
Some call P = I x E the "Power equation" some call it "Watt's law", some call it "Ohm's law".
I wasn't around when either Mr. Watt or Mr. Ohm was doing his best work, so I can't say for sure. I am under the impression that the unit "watt" was named for James Watt, not named by him. So, I call P = I x E "the power equation", but if others choose to call it "Watt's law", I have no problem with it.
I would like to know the definitive historically correct answer, if anyone would like to post it!
73,
KD5WIH
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by AE6IP on January 2, 2004
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> There seems to be a lot of confusion over which
> is "Ohm's law", some say it's P = I x E,
Those people are very confused.
> others say it's E = I x R.
Those people are less confused, but still confused.
By the way, E = I x R is *NOT* Ohm's law in DC either. But, as I said before, it's a simplification that's close enough for those who don't do real electronics.
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by AE352 on January 2, 2004
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I've noticed that if I place the probes from my VOM on the aluminum Coors can (positive on top, negative near the bottom), different levels of impedance can be obtained depending on the 'liquid-level' inside the container apparatus. Perhaps I should experiment more with the 'Coors Antenna.'
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by KA4KOE on January 2, 2004
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Define "real electronics" please, so we can understand your chain of thought and what exactly you are trying to say? Is this an esoteric exercise?
Let's see.....Laplace transforms for ac analysis as well as differential equations (urgh!), Norton's and Thevinin's equivalent circuits, power factors, phasors (not phasers-this ain't Star Trek)etc., ad nauseum, etc., etc. All used variations of that powerful little equation.
Please tell everyone so we can benefit.
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by G7HEU on January 2, 2004
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Q:
Why would anyone post that they consider something to not be 'real electronics' and then fail to explain why?
A:
I don't know!
I was taught Ohm's law as V = I x R etc. It seems that the U.S. might use E instead of V for volts. Other than that it all looks 'real' to me.
Steve
M0HEU / G7HEU.
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by KA4KOE on January 2, 2004
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HEU:
Exactly. Gratuitous assertions, by the precepts of logic, can also be gratuitously dismissed as so much fluff.
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by G7HEU on January 2, 2004
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ATTN AE352
I read with amusment your thoughts on the Coors Cantenna ( sic ).
From thier postings it seems that some people here are already hard at work on multi element arrays!
Steve
M0HEU / G7HEU.
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by N2MG on January 2, 2004
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Posts like these are exactly why I dislike aggressive moderation (is that an oxymoron?).
Some of these are good for a chuckle...
73 Mike N2MG
webmaster
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by G7HEU on January 2, 2004
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Mike
I dunno about oxy but there's certainly a few morons :-)
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by K4JSR on January 2, 2004
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Poor Philip;
The Ohmpah Lohmpahs have come and carried him away.
They are forcing him to listen to their Polka band
consisting solely (sp) of vacuum tubas going "Ohmpah!
Ohmpah! Ohmpah!"
Mike, I thought that oxymorons was that detergent
additive sold on TV by Billy Mays.
Maybe they were not morons after all, only
OHMBICILES!
James Watt made that famous beer commercial possible- "WAAAAAAATTTTTTTTSUP?!"
Philip, I thought that "Diffy Que" was what happened in our Novice days learning those "Q"
signals!
I guess 2004 will be *THE* year for doing PUNitence! No OHMbivalence about that! Maybe
Mike should petition congress for some "pun
control" legislation. I certainly hope that no one
will take Mr. Wheatstone's device and take
OHMbrage with me!
And always remember, Phil, that CBer's use Fast
ten-fourier transforms!! :-@
I'm going back to my padded hamshack now.
73, Cal K4JSR
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by K3ESE on January 2, 2004
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K2WH on December 31, 2003:
"They aren't Dudes."
They are so dudes!
so there.
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by KA4KOE on January 2, 2004
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MG:
Aggressive moderation? Nah, not needed, everyone's having a ball with this PUN-fest.
Now its your turn to come up with one.
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by AE6IP on January 2, 2004
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> Q:
> Why would anyone post that they consider something
> to not be 'real electronics' and then fail to
> explain why?
> A:
> I don't know!
Exactly
> I was taught Ohm's law as V = I x R etc. It seems
> that the U.S. might use E instead of V for volts.
> Other than that it all looks 'real' to me.
You were taught a simplification. That's not Ohm's law. And no, I'm not talking about something dumb like using a different variable name for voltage.
Someone else touched on the reason, but from the way they posted it's pretty clear that it was an accident that they regretted.
By the way, did anyone here see the Mythbusters episode about Lucy?
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> Define "real electronics" please, so we can
> understand your chain of thought and what exactly
> you are trying to say? Is this an esoteric
> exercise?
I have been told, rather forcefully, that "real hams" know Morse code. In the same vein, "real electronics" is practiced by those who know what Ohm's law actually is.
> Let's see.....Laplace transforms for ac analysis as
> well as differential equations (urgh!), Norton's and
> Thevinin's equivalent circuits, power factors,
> phasors (not phasers-this ain't Star
> Trek)etc., ad nauseum, etc., etc. All used
> variations of that powerful
> little equation.
I'll refrain from commenting on "real math"
> Please tell everyone so we can benefit.
Nah. It's more fun to parody the "real hams".
> Besides, if you work out the answer for yourself,
> you'll have a greater sense of
> accomplishment than if I tell it to you.
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I feel he must have felt he had a longer future ahead of him when he wrote "I am my Ohm grampa".
73
Frank
KL7IPV
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by G7HEU on January 2, 2004
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Marty
You are mad.
You came close to making me mad on another forum, (but failed).
If you have no answers ( to your own questions ) and nothing sensible to say then carry on. I'm sure we will all feel sorry for you. Let me have you PayPal # and I'll send a few dollars.
Love from England!
Steve
M0HEU / G7HEU.
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>>>>>by AE6IP on January 2, 2004
> Please tell everyone so we can benefit.
"Nah. It's more fun to parody the "real hams"."<<<<<
This should have been on the anonymous poster thread. Since it proves that just because someone posts with their callsign it doesn’t mean it adds anything constructive to the conversation. Marty thanks for your useless input and trolling. You again have proven a point.
Are you still bitter because you had to study two weeks to be able to pass your element one exam? I feel sorry for you for having to do all that hard work and effort to get your extra license.
Now relax and chant:
oooohm
oooohm
oooohm
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by G7HEU on January 2, 2004
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N.B. In the U.K. mad usually means insane - not angry.
I meant insane.
XXX
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"Ohm's Theory is now Ohm's Law. Learn it. Live it. Don't ever forget it!!!"
It's not just a good idea; it's the law!
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by G7HEU on January 2, 2004
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Just one more from me:
ATTN OLDFART13
It surprises me but I agree with you. Can someone cut and post the last few dozen entries in to that thread about not allowing anonymous posters. I suggest that OLDFART13 have just had their case proved for them.
Steve
M0HEU / G7HEU.
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by WA2JJH on January 2, 2004
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Hello thAR PHILIP. Glad to see this thread was not accepted with much RESISTANCE!
Any one else notice that OHM looks a lot like that dead dude on the Elmers glue bottle! Maybe that is where they got the name ELMER!
Really get a bottle of Elmers glue. Compare with the photo of OHM!
73 and laughs MIKE
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>>>>"their fraternity has been placed on “super secret” probation."<<<<<
Actaully they were put on "Double Secret Probation."
tnx fer the thread.
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by AE6IP on January 2, 2004
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> Marty
> You are mad.
You are wrong. I'm rather enjoying myself.
> You came close to making me mad on another forum,
> (but failed).
Wow. If you call a guy a wanker enough times to have your post deleted when you're not mad, what do you do when you are?
> If you have no answers ( to your own questions ) and
> nothing sensible to say then carry on.
Oh, I know the answers (to both questions, the one you called me wanker over, and the one being asked of me here.)
> I'm sure we will all feel sorry for you. Let me have
> you PayPal # and I'll send a few dollars.
Well, at least you haven't called me a wanker here yet. Is that because you did the homework and found out where your country killed millions of people in 1946?
Don't send me money. If you're feeling charitable, the international red crescent could use money towards relief in Iran.
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>>>>>by AE6IP on January 2, 2004
> Please tell everyone so we can benefit.
"Nah. It's more fun to parody the "real hams"."<<<<<
> This should have been on the anonymous poster
> thread.
Hello, pot. Heard from the kettle recently?
> Since it proves that just because someone posts with
> their callsign it doesn’t mean it adds anything
> constructive to the conversation.
It's an Irish thing. Satire and parody are very constructive. If you don't think so, I've got a modest proposal for you.
> Marty thanks for your useless input and trolling.
"troll" doesn't mean what you think it means.
> You again have proven a point.
Indeed. Which, given your response, goes to show that you can prove a point without your audience getting it.
> Are you still bitter because you had to study two
> weeks to be able to pass your element one exam?
Have you stopped beating your wife?
> I feel sorry for you for having to do all that hard
> work and effort to get your extra license.
d00d! you're very confused. ain't no part of ham radio, (except maybe tower construction,) that involves hard work.
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> "Ohm's Theory is now Ohm's Law. Learn it. Live it.
Ah, I see that the terminology of science isn't one of your fortes.
> It's not just a good idea; it's the law!
Don't tell me you're one of those confused people who think that, in science, theories get proven and become laws.
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> N.B. In the U.K. mad usually means insane - not
> angry.
> I meant insane.
but before that:
> You came close to making me mad on another forum,
d00d! if you can be driven mad by reading moderated forums the internet is no place for you.
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by KA4KOE on January 3, 2004
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Hey Mike, thanks for the input. I was thinking perhaps the new years celebration had taken its troll on you. Did you go to Times Square? Did I say troll? Must've been a faux pas.
OHM MY GOODNESS, here we go again!
Next pun please.
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by TROLLBAITER on January 3, 2004
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AE6IP:
I see from your diatribes that your brain is not up to National Socialist Party standards. Come by the store some day and we'll let you try out our Lime Flavored Zyklon-B.
Hugs and Kisses
Adolf
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by AE6IP on January 3, 2004
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damn, troll, that was the most amazing invocation of goodwin's law i've ever seen.
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by AE6IP on January 3, 2004
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> Next pun please.
Ohm, Ohm, on the range,
where the buffalo roam and the antelope play
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by WA2JJH on January 3, 2004
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NEWS FLASH....OHMS LAW REPEALED!
Problem is that this draconian law is only repealed at absolute zero Kelvin.
So if you do like the ultra cold weather, you could draw 22 amps for your rig with 28 guage wire.
Problem is, as soon as you call CQ your lungs shatter into chunks of ice.
Aldouse Huxley wrote about S(ohm)a
Tail pipes are plated with chr(ohm)
The color portion of video is called chr(ohm)a
Now matter how you slice it, you cannot escape OHM.
Hey Philip, as much as we both hate Sarnoff, are you going to do one on this Radio Robber Barron.
You also have the 3 dudes that invented the transistor. Shockly,Bratton, and bardeen. Shockly is still alive. The 3 won the nobel prize for the transistor.
Shockly shocked the world when he offered his seed for
couples that wanted smart children. There is no scientific proof that this would work.
Another dead dude history over looked was BOOLEN.
The inventor of boolen algebra. He was laughed at how
1 and 0 =0 1 or 0 =1. We all know this is the basis of digital computers.
Keep em comin' MIKE
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by WA2JJH on January 3, 2004
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K5AN, to answer your quesion about the first dead dudes to "ride the lightening"(electric chair).
A few hangings got botched up. So a more humane way of execution was sought. Electricity was a new technology. It was very political to use the electric chair. Many M.D.'s were certain that it would be a horror show. Yet other scientist said it would be quicker and more humane than hanging.
Edison was trying to push his DC power distibution scheme. Which ohms law shows that high tension AC is much better.
Edison made up a fib that AC was more deadly. So guess what? At the turn of the century the first electrocution used 1100VAC.
Philip confirmed to me that a special generator had to be imported from south america.
In the past some states had to have their own generator because the power companies would not deliver
voltage specifly for execution.
It took over 30 seconds for the condemned to stop convulsing. He did not go quietly! The smell made many sick. The first electrocution was done at Ossining prison in NY. Ossining is known as SING SING.
They did an autopsy. They found his brain was hard boiled like an egg His eye balls were bulging out of his head. Needless to say the body was very dehydrated!
The reason for the hood is two fold. One is for the condemned. The second is so the witnesses do not have to see the bulging eyeballs and frothing and bleeding
from the mouth and nose.
The standard today is 2200VAC. Believe it or not, they hire an electrical engineer to test the chair before each execution. Perhaps a thevenans equivalent
model is used. The condemned being the load.
Have a nice day!
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by WA6ES on January 3, 2004
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When these writings first started I overlooked them because I was looking for a more jazzy title. Now I look forward to reading these well written articles. Thanks for the education
Richard - WA6ES
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by KA4KOE on January 3, 2004
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Mike:
With all due disrespect,I ain't doin' Sarnoff. He didn't invent anything, only new ways to cheat people out of their intellectual property. After what he did to Armstrong, all he is good for in my opinion, to paraphrase Shakespeare, is worm food.
Ampere is next after Volta, who is NEXT.
Future possible articles include DUDES Heiny Hertz, Faraday, Oersted, Fessenden, Galvani, Lee Deforest, the three transistor stooges as you suggested-that will be hard, one or two may still be alive....We have to cover the GIANTS first, the ones our units are named after. So, realistically, my writing order should've been done chronologically. Also, even more realistically, some of these guys lived droll or sad lives, so its REAL hard to juice 'em up, ie Armstrong who was run up the river by RCA. I do have a heart, Mike, and as one of our esteemed colleagues up the page has already noted....
Ohm is where the heart is.
PAN
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by DBCOOPER on January 3, 2004
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How is Goodwin's Law a "LAW" in the strictest sense of the word, IP?
Einstein's Theory of Relativity is not a "LAW", but I'm sure its thought of a lot, as it released the mushroom cloud from that neat shiny piece of uranium or plutonium.
By this definition, you can put down anyone's opinion as invalid just because you don't like them, which is a tactic the far liberal left has been using for years in their doctrine of political correctness.....
Besides, TROLLBAITER was right about you anyway. Your brain is so much mush, like a hard boiled egg, as JJH described a high current's effect on the brain of the condemned. Have you come across any HV distribution primary lately? Why are you still alive?
Anyway, I fought the LAW, but I WON.
Sincerely,
DB
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by K7KBN on January 3, 2004
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If E = IR
and
If E = MC²
then IR = MC² ... Bailey's theorem
reVOLTing, no??
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by K7KBN on January 3, 2004
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So much for Ohm's Law -- how about Cole's Law?
Take some cabbage and chop it up very fine. Add a bit of mayonnaise...
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by K4JSR on January 3, 2004
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Pan, Didn't I see you in "A Midsummer's Night Dream"?
Troll, troll, troll the ded gently through the theme.
Merrily, merrily, merrily these puns are losing steam!
Phil, you might be able to con Edison, but I think you
cannot con TROLL! (Don't you just hate these con TROLL issues?) It is probably time to cut the OHMbilical cord on this baby. At least Mr. Ohm did
not foresee AC so he could not have been INDUCED into
this mortal coil. Since it was all DC, does this mean
that his heir coil actually did reach saturation?
Anyway, that is his teresis, not mine!
Just don't forget good old ELI the ICEman in your
Ded Dude series. They did have a capacity for dealing
with mortal coils. Be sure to deal with their permeability, also. That way we could all commune with our Mu's! :-@ The trolls could really FLUX their muscles on that, too. Especially if they were made of FERRITE stuff.
I guess it is time for this old microwave technician
to just quietly phase array...
Back to my padded hamshack and my meds.
73, Cal K4JSR
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by K4JSR on January 3, 2004
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Phil, sorry but they are still cleaning out my padded
hamshack! I had a marvelous thought for an article
you could write. It would deal with Rastafarian
Electrical people. You could call it (I know you see
this coming!) "DRED Electrical Dudes".
After that you could do an article about the electronickers of Stone Henge (sp?)
It,of course would be called "Ded Electrical Druids".
73, Cal K4JSR
Another friend of Jacques D.
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by KA4KOE on January 3, 2004
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JSR:
You and I and JJH need to get together and write something. It would be a scream.
PAN
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by AE6IP on January 3, 2004
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> How is Goodwin's Law a "LAW" in the strictest sense
> of the word, IP?
There is no 'strictest sense' of the word 'law'. It's a term of art. You might recall art: short guy, liked to hang out with children, used to say the darndest things
> Einstein's Theory of Relativity is not a "LAW", but
> I'm sure its thought of a lot, as it released the
> mushroom cloud from that neat shiny piece of uranium
> or plutonium.
Uranium is dull, like your understanding of the jargon of science, not shiny, like the paint on Enola Gay.
> By this definition, you can put down anyone's
> opinion as invalid just because you don't like them,
Alice, you forgot to give a definition, so there's no "this definition". But if you want to understand the difference between theory and law in science, I suggest the "What is Science" FAQ from talk.origins. Or, perhaps, you merely side with Humpty Dumpty.
Anyway, I just wanted to say I knew D.B. Cooper, (met him in Idaho after he landed,) and you sir are no D.B. Cooper.
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by DBCOOPER on January 3, 2004
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How can you say, I am not DBCOOPER son. It is not a matter of, if you met me. It is a matter of, if I met you!
Thats like when you get a wrong number on the landline.
It's not that I made a wrong number, it's that you got the wrong phone!
No lobster or prime rib for you!
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by AE6IP on January 4, 2004
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> How can you say, I am not DBCOOPER son. It is not a
> matter of, if you met me. It is a matter of, if I
> met you!
Like I said, d00d, i know D.B. and you just ain't him.
> Thats like when you get a wrong number on the
> landline. It's not that I made a wrong number, it's
> that you got the wrong phone!
Pick up the clue fone, son, it's for you
> No lobster or prime rib for you!
what a blue-collar idea of luxury you have.
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by AE6IP on January 4, 2004
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> DB, the suckers bite every time!!!
yes, yes, you do.
HAND,
HTH.
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by AE6IP on January 4, 2004
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So, from the roaring silence, I take it nobody picked up a freshman physics book and found out what Ohm's law really is.
Pity, that.
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by WA2JJH on January 4, 2004
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I dunno, too busy doing fourier transforms on MATLAB.
I not into OHMS law so much these days.
Hey DB or DB impersonator.... Broiled or steamed?
Could you not have choosen to impersonate ELVIS, like normal people do?!
Even a Jim Morrison impersonator would be better.
Why DB COOPER!
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by KA4KOE on January 4, 2004
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HEY MIKE,
Did you learn electronics from a physics book or from an ELECTRONICS book?
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by WA2JJH on January 4, 2004
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Why would DB's diet indicate social status?
Old money(Robber Barrons), New money(trust fund babies and yuppie's) Nievu Riche- American dream. Start your own business, make a name for yourself.
AE6IP, how can you tell DB is blue coller working joe.
Do we need a forensic sociologist to tackel DB's psyco-social Axis 5, Grand funtionality test eluded to in the DSM-I.V.
Was it the way he offered it. Or did you actually meet the real DB Cooper? What is your story of meeting
DB Cooper?
73 mike
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by KC8VWM on January 4, 2004
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By definition in Ohm's Law, 1 ohm equals 1 volt divided by 1 ampere. In other words, a device has a resistance of 1 ohm if a voltage of 1 volt will cause a current of 1 ampere to flow.
Thomas Edison admitted that he did not even understand Ohms law and overlooked this discovery.
In 1882, when one of his engineers, William Hammer, observed the "Edison Effect" during the course of experiments about the incandescent lamp, Edison, for reasons which he could not later explain, uncharacteristically did not follow up on the discovery.
The Edison effect remained an unexplained curiosity for fifteen years until the discovery of the electron.
For the first time, accurate definitions of current strength, electrical resistance, and electro-motive force were clearly stated, and the numerical relationship between them conclusively established. Ohm's findings were completely disregarded for a number of years.
Ohm spent much of his earlier time time dancing, ice skating and playing billiards rather than concentrating on his studies.
Ohm's father, angry that his son was wasting the educational opportunity that he himself had never been fortunate enough to experience, demanded that Ohm leave the university of Erlangen after three semesters.
After three semesters Ohm gave up his university post. He could not see how he could attain a better status at Erlangen as prospects there were poor while he essentially lived in poverty in the lecturing post. The Bavarian government offered him a post as a teacher of mathematics and physics at a poor quality school in Bamberg and he took up the post there in January 1813. This was not the successful career envisaged by Ohm at the time.
As he had done for so much of his life, Ohm continued his private studies reading the texts of the leading French mathematicians Lagrange, Legendre, Laplace, Biot and Poisson. In 1820 Oersted discovered electromagnetism, and shortly afterwards, Becquerel and Barlow began their researches into the conductivity of various metals. Everywhere experimenters were making new discoveries in the young science of electricity.
Yet there was also much confusion. Terms like 'tension', 'intensity', 'quantity', and 'exciting force' were used to describe various attributes of electricity, but no one was clear about the exact meanings of the terms and their relationships.
In the first, he measured the 'intensity' of electricity in a wire connected between the terminals of a voltaic pile. To measure the intensity he measured the deflection in a magnetic needle held over the wire. (He later improved the method by attaching the needle to a torsion balance.)
His decision to measure the loss in intensity rather than the intensity itself led him to a logarithmic relation which held only because of the high internal resistance of the voltaic pile. The pile was very cumbersome.
In the second of the series of experiments, Ohm determined the lengths of wires, made from different metals, that gave the same current. Ohm called these various lengths 'equivalent lengths.' Once Ohm put this experimental results together and decided to consider measuring actual intensity rather than loss in intensity, he was able to phrase his famous law in the form I = E/R.
What is now known as Ohm's law appears in this famous book "Die galvanische Kette, mathematisch bearbeitet" (The Galvanic Circuit Investigated Mathematically) (1827) in which he gave his complete theory of electricity. Despite Ohm's attempts in this introduction, he was not really successful in convincing the older German physicists that the mathematical approach was the right one.
Ohm's law was met with resistance. Many of his countrymen were used to experimenting with voltage and current, but they considered these to be entirely separate phenomena. One science 'critic' reviewed Ohm's book, claiming that its "sole effort is to detract from the dignity of nature." Ohm's feeling were hurt, he decided to remain in Berlin and, in March 1828, he formally resigned his position at Cologne. He took some temporary work teaching mathematics in schools in Berlin.
Electricity was not the only topic on which Ohm undertook research, and not the only topic in which he ended up in controversy. Ohm also experimented with optics, acoustics, and the electrical conductivity of liquids, though he didn't achieve any real progress in these fields. In 1843 he stated the fundamental principle of physiological acoustics, concerned with the way in which one hears combination tones. However the assumptions which he made in his mathematical derivation were not totally justified and this resulted in a bitter dispute with the physicist August Seebeck.
On July 7, 1854, Georg Ohm passed away in Munich, at the age of 65. It wasn't until 1881, after his death, when the Electrical Congress in Paris voted to adopt the 'ohm' as the international standard of electrical resistance.
73
Charles - KC8VWM
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by G7HEU on January 4, 2004
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Well done to Philip / KA4KOE for his continued input with these articles.
Thanks Charles / KC8VWM for the additional info. By the way Charles, that line; 'Ohm's law was met with resistance' was intentional wasn't it?
;-)
Steve
M0HEU / G7HEU
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by DBCOOPER on January 4, 2004
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Great sum up there Charles. JJH-Are you really a Bio-medical engineer? Got your EE too. You must be a smart
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