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Create Schematics With Paint!

Do not contact (N4ZOU) on January 15, 2004
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Create schematics with Paint!

So you have an idea for a project and want to post a article here on eham.net and want it to look nice but you don't have a CAD program to do it and you don't really want to spend the big bucks just to draw simple Electronic Symbols to be used it your article that no one is going to pay you for. Well my friend I have the perfect program for you if you use a PC running Windows. The program is called Paint! Yes, the simple little paint program that comes with Windows. Granted your not going to use it to produce huge and complicated schematics of a NASA gizmo but for something like an antenna tuner or RC filters Paint will work just fine. First of all you will need a sheet of Symbols to work from. The easy way to do it would be to use a scanner to import the Electronic Symbols from the page of a book on electronics. Below is an example from a very old book I ran across at a thrift store.

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I used a scanner and saved it in Windows BMP format and placed it in a folder called Symbols. The above picture is called tubes.bmp. You will want to produce many more pages like transistors.bmp, switches.bmp, capacitors.bmp and so on. You will also want to use the same book to produce all your Symbols so they come out the same uniform size. After you have your files saved your ready to start drawing.

To start with you need to produce a rough sketch of the drawing. I do this by hand on paper with a pencil. This allows you to figure out the best way to lay it out. After you have the rough drawing finished your ready to use Paint to start drawing your finished product. Bring up an instance of paint and set the attributes that will allow you to place the complete drawing when finished on it. Here it's ok to go larger than required and make the drawing smaller later. Next you start placing your Symbols on the page. The easy way of doing this is to start a second instance of Paint and load the required file in it. A good example is the tubes.bmp file. You need to add a Tetrode to the page so you load the tubes file and using the Select tool outline the Tetrode tube and then right click it and select copy. Now move back to the main instance and from the menu bar click edit and then paste. The Tetrode tube will appear in the upper left hand corner of the screen and from here just left click and drag the image where you want it and release the left mouse button. While the select box is around it you may rotate and invert, as you need with the Flip/rotate tool. That was easy enough! Below is the Tetrode that was copied and pasted on the main page.

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Just keep on with the copy and paste until you have all the different Symbols on the page to produce your schematic. One helpful hint is to work out from the middle and use connecting lines as you go. Also hit the save button regularly so if the computer locks up or blinks you don't lose a lot of work!

If you build something you should always document it properly and using Paint will allow you to do that in a professional way. You might want to sell it later and having a professional looking schematic will go a long way in helping to do that. I built a small two-tube amplifier using 811A tubes for the 160-meter band. It worked very well and those 300 watts it produced was enough to get my received signal strength above the high noise level during the summer months. After I purchased a Heathkit SB-1000 amplifier and repaired it I no longer needed the small 811A amplifier. A trip to a Hamfest with the amplifier for sale on the tailgate provided a learning experience on homebrew projects. No one would buy the amplifier without a schematic and parts list even at the low price of $75. As soon as I got home I got busy and produced a schematic, parts list, and operating instructions. The next Hamfest that rolled around that I went to had the 811A amplifier on the tailgate again but with professional looking documentation to go with it. It sold for $150 that day!

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Create Schematics With Paint!  
by AG4XD on January 15, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Well, that's certainly an interesting approach. Let me suggest also that you check out the free and OpenSource offerings on SourceForge and Freshmeat, http://www.sourceforge.net and http://freshmeat.net -- a search on the word circuit turned up a number of interesting and free applications. One application I recently discovered is 4NEC, a very nicely done antenna modeling program.

73,

Jim
 
Create Schematics With Paint!  
by N4CQR on January 15, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Good suggestion, Scott. I have been doing this for a few years for fairly simple circuits I build for automated machinery used in the automotive assembly industry. It IS NOT a replacement for BobCad, Autocad/sketch but definately is a lot cheaper and often times, faster.

Good Post!

Craig - N4CQR
 
Create Schematics With Paint!  
by N3XL on January 15, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I've used Paint a lot over the years to create network design diagrams. Once you get the hang of it, it isn't bad to work with and definitely has advantages. Number one for me is that since almost everyone has Paint on their machine, folks will be able to see the work without loading a special application. Good tips, Scott!
 
RE: Create Schematics With Paint!  
by KB1GMX on January 15, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
While it's a good idea and univerally available as even linux come with a paintbox program it's a limited and sometimes awkward tool.

You neglected a raft of different *cad programs most freeware or shareware explicitly designed for that use that even have resonable basic component libraries???

Microcadd, simple to use and small, fits on floppy, runs on even an old 8088(XT!) dosbox. I still use it for quickies on my NT4 machine. Works fine in a Linux dosemu situation.

Another is CADstd260, Cad standard lite V2.60 also a shareware cadd that resemble the more familiar generic cadd programs.

There is also Eaglecadd, The freeware version is limited to small boards and a few dozen components
but for someone doing a PIC micro design it's plenty adaquate.

At least one PC board house offers a tool to do the schematic capture and board layout for a small board for free( and a proto board service that is attractive). Works well and if you go to a commercal made or even do your own it's everything you need.

That's only a few that come to mind. There are many retail cadd programs that are very inexpensive I have an old copy of TurboCadd that was a whopping 29.99$US
about 7 years ago that is very functional on any 486 or greater with windows (any version from 3.11 to XP!).
The frightfully high price of Autocadd created a market for far less expensive cadd tools for those that don't require a full suite.

This is only to point out that there are a number of quality tools that are free to affordable to the hobbiest that can even take your effort to the next level if you care to.

What's the next level? How about circuit simulation? How many times have you said "what if.." about a circuit that you wanted to try but didn't understand? Try simulating it on computer before even soldering. One product I've used for simple stuff is Protolab (www.jdr.com) at 49$US. I'm not endorsing that product only pointing it out. Note it does want a machine with some horsepower and Nt or higher OS. There are others out there as well in the simulation space running from the nocost simple to the very exotic and expensive.


Allison
 
Create Schematics With Paint!  
by AG4RQ on January 15, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
This is not a new idea. But, it was a good thing to post, as some hams either didn't know about this, or had forgotten about it. A more in-depth BMP file for use as a template can be downloaded at http://www.arrl.org/qexfiles/. The file to look for is schemat.zip. When you unzip the file, you wind up with schemat.bmp. Just save it as a "read only" file, so that no matter what you do with it, the file remains unaltered.

Any graphics program can be used to draw schematics. In addition to Paint, I've used 3 Adobe products - Photoshop, Illustrator and Pagemaker. Of course, the most basic is Paint, and Paint is on everyone's machine who has Windows. The more electronic templates you have (BMP files or equivalent), the better.
 
RE: Create Schematics With Paint!  
by LNXAUTHOR on January 15, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
- i have an alternative headline:

Create Schematics with the GIMP!

http://www.gimp.org

(GIMP = GNU Image Manipulation Program)

:-)

p.s. the GIMP is free
 
Create Schematics With Paint!  
by KF6JZC on January 15, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
This is interesting information. However, you can download a free schematic CAD program from www.expresspcb.com.

This will allow you to draw schematics with already inlcuded symbols. There are no tube symbols, however, but I believe they can be added.

This company also includes free layout software to create your PCBs for your designs. They make their money off of your designs by offering to create finished PCBs based on your designs for a price. Sound like a good tradoff to me if you want to design finish circuit boards. Give it a look-see.

By-the-way, I got this lead from the January 2004 QST page 53. Check it out!
 
Create Schematics With Paint!  
by WA7NCL on January 15, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Check out Switcher Cad III (LTspice). It can draw schematics and you can do spice analysis as well. It is free from Linear Technology Corp. http://www.linear.com/software/

It is a general purpose spice program and although not really intended for schematic drafting, it's at least as good as Paint.

There are also a lot of examples of "Ham radio" circuits you can play with and analyse. like colpitts oscillators etc.

73's Bill
 
Create Schematics With Paint!  
by N2DS on January 15, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I have a library of electronic (mostly tube) symbols for download
at http://www.schmarder.com/radios/downloads/index.htm
My symbols are in jpg format
I got the idea from Gary, WD4NKA's "tube pad". He has symbols in
BMP format.
I use PhotoImpact as my paint program. It came with my scanner.
My circuit drawings are posted on my homemade radios website:
http://www.schmarder.com/radios/
I have a dual screen system here. I have the symbols on one screen
and the paint program on the other. I just drag and drop.

73, Dave N2DS
 
RE: Create Schematics With Paint!  
by KC0LPV on January 16, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
>One application I recently discovered is
>4NEC, a very nicely done antenna modeling
>program.
>
>73,
>
>Jim

Hey, I took a look at Sourceforge and Freshmeat, and googled, and didn't locate 4NEC or anything else describing itself as "antenna modeling" with NEC, or "NEC", or "4NEC".

Do you have a direct link?

Jim
 
RE: Create Schematics With Paint!  
by KE6PKJ on January 16, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
http://www.ransbottom.com/schematics/schematics_template.htm
 
RE: Create Schematics With Paint!  
by KE6PKJ on January 16, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Free designware.

http://www.circuitsage.com/
 
RE: Create Schematics With Paint!  
by W9SZ on January 16, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
My favorite program is CORELDRAW. It has some features that AUTOCAD doesn't even have. And you can export your schematics as PDF files, a feature I find very useful because most people seem to have the free Adobe Reader on their computers.

I like the idea of the scanned, ready-made electronic symbols, though. Those could be used in a wide variety of graphics programs.
 
RE: Create Schematics With Paint!  
by W5HTW on January 16, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Good suggestions. I've been a Coreldraw user for years and it works well. At work we used AutoCAD for design.

However, there was program called Micrographx Designer that was great for electronics work. I have a copy, from days past, but it had not kept up with technology since about Windows 3.11. It had most major electronics symbols in it already.

It is, by the way, an excellent home CAD software as well. I used my old copy of it two years ago to design a deck, including all measurements, which are automatic within the program.

This thread got me wondering if anyone has seen Designer in a newer version, from post-1995 or so? Sure was a fantastic conceptual drawing program.

Ed
 
RE: 4NEC  
by AG4XD on January 16, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I may be mistaken about seeing 4NEC on either of those tw o sites, but here is a page with a link to the 4NEC application: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu/swindex.html

73,

Jim
 
Create Schematics With Paint!  
by AG4RC on January 16, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Great article! Need more like this!

Here's a helpful site that illustrates using MS-Paint for drawing schematics & PCB layout:

http://www.keirle.fsnet.co.uk/pcb.htm

73 - Peter - AG4RC
 
Create Schematics With Paint!  
by WA2AFD on January 18, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I have also used Paint with limited success. Another simple program that one might try is TinyCad which is available as freeware.

This program has many features lacking in Paint, and has a short learning curve...you will be drawing schematics in just minutes after starting the program...really!

It can be found at:

www.tinycad.sourceforge.net

73 de WA2AFD
 
RE: Create Schematics With Paint!  
by KG4VPV on January 21, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
<<<- i have an alternative headline:

Create Schematics with the GIMP!

http://www.gimp.org

(GIMP = GNU Image Manipulation Program)

:-)

p.s. the GIMP is free >>>

Not a bad suggestion....but doesnt gimp require a linux platform? Ive used GIMP, great program for what it is, but my PSP software beats it hands down.

 
RE: Create Schematics With Paint!  
by KC9ETP on January 24, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
You can get gimp for windows.

Oh IMHO Gimp beats PSP hands down. ;-)
 
RE: Create Schematics With Paint!  
by KORNY on October 17, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Try CADstd (freeware) at CADstd.com. CAD, saves to .cad or .dxf and can open both formats.

KrazyKyngeKorny
 
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