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It's Not Your Microphone -- It's You!
Steve Katz (WB2WIK)
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IT'S NOT YOUR MICROPHONE, IT'S YOU!
Those of us who foray into the “phone” bands have all heard some G-dawful modulation.
There are the “wi-fi audio guys” who, to me, sound like fingernails scratching a chalkboard, but I'll admit some like the way that stuff sounds. I don't, but that's neither here nor there.
There are the overprocessed guys who have fallen victim to AKTR* Syndrome, and as long as they believe what they do, will never, ever sound good.
(*AKTR = All Knobs To Right. This is a method where the operator simply turns all the knobs on his transmitter fully clockwise, keeping adjustments very simple.)
There are the “radio dispatchers,” who sit back in a chair about two feet away from their microphones and operate from that position. They always sound crappy, without exception. This method of operating creates a very undermodulated signal unless the operator also follows the AKTR philosophy, in which case, then you can hear his heart beat, clock tick and cat meow, and those items all modulate his rig about the same as his voice. Along with lots of room echo.
There are the mumblers. There are the cross-talkers: You know, guys who talk across their microphones rather than into them, honestly believing the mythology that somehow that works better. There are the yellers who elevate the pitch and intensity of their voices every time they're on the air, and never use a conversational tone until the rig's shut off.
There are those with lisps and various impediments to normal speech, and while many of those could be cured by simply listening to their own voices played back by a tape recorder, most have never even tried this.
And then, there are the drawlers. These are folks who don't actually live in the deep south, and really don't have a southern drawl, except when they're on the radio, when they suddenly develop one. Or if not that, then some other silly accent they don't really have.
Why is it that only about ten percent of all hams using the phone bands actually sound good on the air?
Pssst: It's usually not their microphones, or even their rigs. They really don't need audio equalizers or other means to add “fidelity.” What the ones who sound lousy really need is a way to listen to how badly they sound, and learn how not to sound like that.
No matter what kind of microphone you use, use it as you would a “hand mike.” If your lips are more than an inch or so from the front of the microphone, you're too far away. If you've never operated this way: Trust me, it works, and you'll sound a whole lot better as soon as you start operating this way.
Don't talk “across” the microphone. That looks silly, and doesn't sound any better, at all.
Use conversational tone. Don't elevate the pitch or volume of your voice simply because you're on the air. Speak normally, as you would to someone sitting in front of you.
Practice enunciation, using a tape recorder or digital voice recorder. Most people, especially if they've never been broadcasters, have a very incorrect impression of how they sound. The tape playback clears that all up.
Adjust your transmitter (assuming the mode is SSB) so that the “ALC” indicator registers just a bit on voice peaks, and goes dead between voice peaks. If the “ALC” scale on your particular transmitter goes from 1-10, and the “highlighted” area where you're “supposed to” use it is a range from 2-7, adjust your mike gain so that a very occasional peak indicates about a “5,” and normal speech is down around “2.” Background noise, including the cat, the dog, the TV in the next room, and everything else, should indicate absolutely nothing.
If you do operate SSB, and most of this discussion concerns SSB operation, by all means try to buy, build or borrow a true PEP wattmeter. A normal wattmeter cannot indicate PEP, and PEP is what counts when you're operating SSB. Some wattmeters have a “peak” or “PEP” position, but do not have a power supply operating them, nor internal batteries to power the PEP circuitry. If you have a meter like that, rest assured it is not a PEP meter, period. It's impossible for it to be, because peak reading circuitry consumes power, and cannot work by magic.
The reason I stress the “PEP meter” point is that so many hams look at their average-reading wattmeters and try to modulate their rigs so these meters indicate whatever the output power of their transmitter is supposed to be. If you do that, you're guaranteed to sound crappy on the air, and you'll probably achieve such reports. A 100% modulated SSB transmitter will usually indicate 20-30% of actual output power on a typical (non-PEP) wattmeter. That same transmitter will indicate 100% of actual output power on a PEP meter, and this will make you feel better and also provide you with great insight about the difference between peak and average power. (Remember, the average power of a high-level modulated AM transmitter is 25% of PEP; however, all of that is the carrier, so even if you don't say a word, you're running an average power of 25% of PEP, and that power is entirely wasted: Which is why suppressed-carrier single sideband became popular in the first place.)
Most microphones, regardless of design, work best under full sound pressure, e.g., when you provide them with as much sound pressure as they can handle without damage. In the case of communications mikes, that's a lot of pressure. You can't provide that pressure from across the room, a foot away, or usually not even from two inches away, unless you're screaming. With normal voice modulation, you'll want to be right up against the microphone. It's what sounds best, and it's what works. Take a look at any broadcast studio and you'll see announcers right up on their microphones. Ditto any concert with vocals. You never see anybody back a foot from the mike. That doesn't work.
Get in the good habit of close-talking the microphone, no matter what the environment, or what type of microphone it is. I've never come across a microphone that didn't sound better under full sound pressure.
Okay, I'll go a bit further (although I really could have ended it there). They're not only silly, but they always cost more than hand mikes, and never sound better. For radio operating, what works, if you have one hand free, is a hand mike. If you don't have a hand free, then a boom mike, or boom headset. Anything that puts the mike element right in front of your lips.
Problem with desk mikes is that most are not designed to be comfortably used if you want your lips up against them. They're too short, so you have to lean over. Or, they're too something. If you can mount a desk mike so that it's the same height as your mouth when you're comfortably seated at your operating position, great. But rarely is this the case. Which brings me back to my first statement: Desk mikes are silly.
The ambient is your operating environment: What's around you. It should be quiet, so that nothing other than your voice modulates your transmitter.
If you have a wattmeter with different scales of sensitivity, here's a great test: Set the wattmeter to its most sensitive position, preferably something like 5W full scale, or maybe 20W full scale. Then, run as much power as you can (preferably a kilowatt), and key your push-to-talk switch with your mike gain and any processor or compressor set as they would normally be set for your operating. Count to three and look at the meter. Does it indicate anything at all? It shouldn't. It should just lay there, reading zero.
If it reads anything at all, that's too much, as you have background noise modulation which is extremely distracting to anyone trying to listen to you. I say trying, because hard as I try, I usually can't listen to anybody with that much background noise. And “any” is too much.
Get rid of the noise source, or make adjustments to your station.
Any that can be discerned as distortion is too much. There's distortion in everything, so we'll never achieve “zero.” But you shouldn't be able to hear any obvious distortion, other than that caused by propagation. On HF, and even sometimes on VHF, there surely is distortion created by “the path” (propagation) that isn't actually there when the signal leaves the transmitter. But most of us who have spent any time operating know the difference.
Best way to avoid distortion is to not overdrive any stage of the transmitter. Not the mike preamp, or the balanced modulator, or any of the driver stages, or the final amplifier. In an SSB transmitter chain, all modulated stages are linear and can operate pretty much distortion-free if not overdriven.
Overdriving the mike preamp can be pretty easy to do, with some rigs. All you need is too much mike gain for the voltage the mike is producing. Close-talk the mike as repeated ad nauseum above, and adjust your mike gain for slight ALC activity. That's usually the right amount; although, with some rigs, it may not be. It really pays to listen on a second receiver, using headphones, if you can.
Using headphones can create a better-sounding, better modulated signal for you!
`Phones allow you to use your transceiver's MONITOR function (if it has one - all the “high end” rigs do, and some of the mid-line rigs do, too), so you can listen to yourself and see how you sound.
`Phones allow you to use a second receiver (if your transceiver has no MONITOR function), to do the same thing.
`Phones also allow you to operate in a very quiet environment. It's peaceful and serene, and you can hear signals in headphones that nobody could hear in any speaker in the world. When SONY developed the Walkman, they realized the magic of a set of $2 headphones. The phones bring the sound close to your eardrums and allow you to hear a range of frequencies you can't hear if those same sounds are generated by million-dollar speakers across the room. Once you get used to operating with `phones all the time, it's unlikely you'll ever go back to a speaker.
(BTW, other members of your household will thank you for ditching the speaker. “Radio receiver noises” represent a majority of the noise pollution generated by hams in their own homes, and using headphones eliminates this.)
And, `phones set the stage for the greatest boon to two-way radio communications: The boom headset, which includes a microphone that you can have planted directly in front of your lips to create the best modulation you'll ever have. Better than desk mikes, anyway.
Ham radio would be nothing without experimentation, and by all means, feel free to experiment! However, in lieu of $500 worth of modulation-altering add-ons, most operators would benefit more from $500 worth of professional vocal training. Improving your diction, enunciation and voice timbre is something that you can take with you everywhere you go, for the rest of your life; it will make you a better public speaker, a better telemarketer, and a better communicator in all facets of life and for most, I'd highly recommend this over electronic gizmos that work only with your transmitter.
If you don't get stellar reports of full, rounded, smooth, punchy, great modulation - it's probably not your microphone's fault. It's far more likely the operator. Learn to close-talk, adjust levels properly, minimize room noise, and really articulate. Practice with a tape recorder or DVR, and work on your own voice until you think it sounds great. When you do, others will, too.
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by MW0KIK on April 27, 2004
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LOL - very good article - there are many audiophiles close to my qth - and I must say most of them sound like they have teir head in a bucket!
AKTR syndrome is rampant in these parts too!
Lets hope we find a cure.
73
Leigh
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by VK5CC on April 27, 2004
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Great article Steve couldn't agree with you more. Way back in 1959 Collins released a bulletin explaining to hams the difference in average and peak in the voice envelope as many 30SL1 users were seeing 1000w carrier and only 150 or so W on ssb and consequently went AKTHR to talk up the average reading meter! They also accused Collins of not providing 1000w on ssb O/P but i guess Hams didn't understand the difference then and still don't now so yes Steve a proper PEP meter in most shacks should cure the AKTTR Syndrome.Although i like my Shure 444 and D104 mikes the heil 5 headset into the 32S3 via an RF speech processor is the only way to go and it sounds great!The problem with HI FI audio via outboard processors is the boost is often so great it blows straight through the filter and hello opposite Sideband--No Thanks.
Cheers from Chris.
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by N3ZKP on April 27, 2004
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Another great article, Steve.
I prefer a headset and attached boom mike to any other combination. No matter where my head is pointed, the relationship to the mike is unchanged.
Using a foot switch leave BOTH hands free for other stuff.
Lon
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by W3JJH on April 27, 2004
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Although I got my First Class Radiotelephone Operator License back in the '60s, I've only been a ham for a bit more than 6 years now. The reason I got my commercial license was to work in broadcasting. During my time as an announcer and a recording engineer, I learned that all signal processing adds some form of "distortion" in that the output signal isn't the same as the input.
Listening to some guys on the bands reminds me of a scene from "This is Spinal Tap":
Nigel Tufnel: The numbers all go to eleven. Look, right across the board, eleven, eleven, eleven and...
Marty DiBergi: Oh, I see. And most amps go up to ten?
Nigel Tufnel: Exactly.
Marty DiBergi: Does that mean it's louder? Is it any louder?
Nigel Tufnel: Well, it's one louder, isn't it? It's not ten. You see, most blokes, you know, will be playing at ten. You're on ten here, all the way up, all the way up, all the way up, you're on ten on your guitar. Where can you go from there? Where?
Marty DiBergi: I don't know.
Nigel Tufnel: Nowhere. Exactly. What we do is, if we need that extra push over the cliff, you know what we do?
Marty DiBergi: Put it up to eleven.
Nigel Tufnel: Eleven. Exactly. One louder.
Marty DiBergi: Why don't you just make ten louder and make ten be the top number and make that a little louder?
Nigel Tufnel: [Pause] These go to eleven.
Of course, filtering out distracting audio can improve intelligibility, but no equalization should be required over the relatively narrow bandwidth of an amateur SSB transmission. If the signal sounds bad, something's broken or out of adjustment!
Single-D cardioid microphones have rising bass response when placed close to a sound source. Working a Shure SM58 (for instance) too closely will cause a booming low end on your voice. That's great for a baritone vocalist at a concert, but a problem on HF SSB. Variable-D cardioid and omnidirectional mikes don't have that problem.
If you want hifi audio, use a clean microphone with no eq and minimal processing--and make certain that your rig is properly aligned!
If you want piercing contest audio, get a Heil or other communications mike designed with rising high end response and use it with moderate processing.
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by K8AG on April 27, 2004
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Great article and on the money.
In addition, the AKTR Syndrome exists on receive as well as transmit. People complain about receivers not rejecting QRM, QRN, filter blowby etc. yet keep their gain all the way up and would never think of using attenuators. After all, they paid for that gain. Would these folks buy a new stereo system and then crank the volume all the way up because they paid for the loudness?
I went to a boom mic several months ago primarily because with the mouse and key, my desk was getting cluttered. I bought a relatively inexpensive studio mic (cost me $10 on sale) and got a boom on sale as well. The whole thing cost me $40, cleared up some of the congestion on my desk, and according to my on air buddies, improved my audio tremendously.
I have also noted that hand mics are better than desk mics. My backup rig uses a hand mike and when I exercise it, I get good audio quality comments.
My main radio has voice processing, but I don't bother with it. Adjusting for increased power out does not mean increased understanding of what is said.
I would also add one thing. Actually watch the ALC meter while operating. Some ops set their drive one time then assume it is fine for the entire session. We feel differently every day and we speak differently from day to day and even from the beginning of a QSO to the end depending on how we feel. Keeping an eye on the ALC during a QSO can provide more consistent audio on the receiving end.
This kind of attention to audio quality (not hifi audio quality) can help you break through pileups because you are understandable.
John Pawlicki, K8AG
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by K0BG on April 27, 2004
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AMEN BROTHER!
Steve, the only thing you left out was asking these folks to connect the ALC from their amps to their rigs if they use an amp.
Alan, KØBG
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by W7DJM on April 27, 2004
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This diatribe can be summed up this simply:
98 percent of bad audio can be solved by
TURN OFF THE PROCESSOR!!!!!!!!!
TURN DOWN THE MIKE GAIN!!!!!!!!
(Sorry, I don't know how to emulate heavy, processed distortion and "ear bleeding" audio quality on a keyboard.)
Ben, up on 14.208 just LOVES to tell people that "he can hear their epiglottis flapping around.
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by W7WV on April 27, 2004
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I was taught how to use a microphone by a ham in the 1960s. He was my instructor at the radio operators course I had been assigned to by the Army.
Do you suppose that the problem is that most are self taught? Naw, it couldn't be that simple!
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by K0IZ on April 27, 2004
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Steve - nice article.
I just installed a peak meter board in my Collins 312B-4, and was amazed how easily I could drive my 30L1 to peak power. I thought I had been rather carefully in setting the mike gain (watching ALC), but backed off even more.
I can highly recommend the www.lnatechnology.com boards. Mine cost $35, made for the 312B-4. Other types available. I installed inside without any hole drilling, etc. Run power from the 6.3V meter lighting circuit and 1/2 wave rectifier/cap. Works great.
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by KG6AMW on April 27, 2004
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Very good article Steve and something I could have used 4 years ago when I entered the hobby. I've learned most of what you have offered here through trial and error. The only point which I disagree with is your position on desk microphones. I will from time to time switch over to a hand microphone when talking to my friends on 40 meters and they spot the difference after about 5 minutes. That said, hand mics are still quite good. Thanks for the information.
KG6AMW
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by N0EW on April 27, 2004
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Also consider the frequency range at which we actually hear articulation in a voice. As I recall this is close to the 2000 Hz range (I may be off somewhat as I am going from memory – I highly recommend attending a lecture by Bob Heil k9eid if you get the opportunity).
It is the middle range of our voice where the differences between D, T, and B are articulated by the speaker and distinguished by the person listening.
Heil mics increase this frequency range so we can better hear the all-important audio that brightens the pronunciation, and somewhat diminishes the upper and lower extremes, which we don't need to hear anyway.
We only have a small slice of the spectrum to transmit our audio and should focus our attention on transmitting intelligible speech rather than stereo hi-fi sound. There is not sufficient width in a SSB signal to convey a hi-fi sound (unless one is being incredibly rude and shoveling out a whale-wide signal).
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by N8MMZ on April 27, 2004
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Cigars help on adjusting the timbre of one's voice - but they sure make the XYL mad! Use my advice at your own risk!! Or save it for field day when the XYL is not around and you need the quality factor to separate you from the other contacts.
73s de N8MMZ - Jonathan
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by WB2WIK on April 27, 2004
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KG6AMW: I didn't say desk mikes were bad, I just think they're silly because
-they occupy desk space which is at a premium already in most stations;
-they cost more, and don't sound any different than hand mikes or boom mikes using the same cartridge and baffle design (which they definitely can);
-and they're inconvenient to use for many people, including me!
If your desk mike sounds better than your hand mike, that's because they're two different microphones. If you took the element out of your desk mike and installed it into your hand mike case, and made a few adjustments to reasonably replicate the desk mike baffling, they'd sound identical and now you'd have a mike you can use easily without bending over. That's all...
WB2WIK/6
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by AB0UK on April 27, 2004
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A very good and timely article. A couple of points to amplify.
First, don't try to eat the microphone. Yes, being close is good, but don't touch the mike with your lips. If you have RF in your shack it can bite you or worse if there is AC on your mike. (It can and has happened.) Air blast from speaking can cause unnecessary noise and distortion. Also, vowels such and "B" and "P" can be heard as popping on the received end. (They can drive the mikes mechanics past their intended limit.) Consider using a foam mike cover (wind screen). Some people say they induce distortion, but they cure more ills than they create. Looks at the lapel mikes on TV personalities. They all have the wind screen. An inch or so seperation between you and your mike is fine. Yes, a mike cover can be hard to use on a handheld. Modification of the cover with scissors may adapt it sufficiently.
Adjust your ALC per your users manual. Mine adjust different per the manual than described above. I'm currently using an IC-746PRO. Using processing is fine as long as you adjust the ALC in conjunction with it per your manual. Processing increases the average transmitted level without inducing noticeable distortion when the ALC is set properly.
One major source of distortion is amplifiers. It is usually easy to spot operators using an amplifier as they sound muffled and narrow ranged. Don't over drive, use ALC and be sure the input AC voltage doesn't droop under heavy modulation peaks. The best mike techniques can easily be lost in an amplifier that is functioning poorly.
A very good article. This is a subject that often gets lost in all the other facets of amateur radio.
73,
Jim, AB0UK
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by VE7RWN on April 27, 2004
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Great article Steve! I rely heavily on others for my audio feedback and ask for it on a regular basis. I tend to play around with mikes I get for free or cheap and adapt them to different rigs. I remember being taught some years ago when i was learning to dj in night clubs the importance of clear, concise speach. In that case all to often you are speaking to people who are not paying attention, so getting the message out is important. As a sidenote, I remember when Marshall guitar amps were around way back when and that they "went to eleven" as pointed out from Spinal Tap! It must have been a good sales trick as there were alot of marshalls around, and they were not that great of an amp. Not any better than the rest anyway.
73, Rob.
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by K0RFD on April 27, 2004
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W3JJH Wrote:
>Nigel Tufnel: [Pause] These go to eleven.
My 1957 Fender Champ (all 6 watts of it) goes up to 12. Eat your heart out, Nigel.
Seriously -- good article, WIK. Crowding the mic, however, depends on the mic. It's pretty easy to sound muffled and overly bassy if you crowd the WRONG mic. Each mic has a distance that's perfect for what you want to achieve. Experiment and find it.
When I was trying to develop the "right" settings for my equipment, I tried various mics, various settings of the TX EQ menu, mic gain, processor on/off, etc. etc. and tape recorded what my signal sounded like on a receiver. I was quite surprised that some mics/settings sounded quite different than the "monitor" sound I heard in the headset--but when you listen to yourself talk on "monitor" you get a lot of "head" frequencies and not a very good idea of what you REALLY sound like. Better to hear the end result via a recording when you are NOT talking and better yet if you hear it mixed with some QRN. And don't take anybody else's word for it. "Punchy" means different things to different people.
I was also pretty surprised that after going thru my entire collection of vocal mics from the Band days and other stuff I had laying around, the "best" sounding mics with my rig were among the least expensive. One was a Radio Shack 33-3018 dynamic that used to get carried around in the mic box as a spare. $29.95 list and sometimes goes on sale for $19.95. The other was a noise-cancelling electret on a $20 computer headset. Each sounded better with my rig (that's important--has to sound good with YOUR rig) than anything else I had here, so it pays to patch up a cable or two and experiment. Before the Heil guys jump me, I didn't have any Heil gear to test, and no $$$ to get any. I'm sure it's great stuff, optimized for radio, just didn't have any handy.
I always get good audio reports with the hand mic and the factory settings, but who has a free hand? Unless I am using the boom headset, I use a mic on a boom desk stand that's well out of the way--and key it with a footswitch. I can swing the mic out of my face when I'm running RTTY or PSK, but when I swing it back it's always in the right spot. That leaves hands free for writing, logging, etc.
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by VA3SWS on April 27, 2004
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I use a Heathkit SB-610 monitor scope to "see" my audio. I wouldn't be without a scope now.
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by K9NYO on April 27, 2004
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Great article, Steve. I worked in broadcast radio (on-air) for about 10 years when I was a bit younger, and I saw a lot of goofy mic styles! I think the notion of talking across the mic comes from the thought that "popping p's" and other sharp letters like B's or T's would be cured. Actually broadcast engineers just cure that with foam, screens or good processing. There are also the whisperers who try and rely on processors or gain to elevate their sound--bunch of goofs, too. You hit the nail on the head when you said that the sound has to go right into the mic--that's the only way to capture it right. I prefer a mic on a boom to a desk mic...as said, it takes up less space and it's got much better shock absorbtion (no rustling around noise).
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by N2XE on April 27, 2004
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Gee Steve... That was blunt. Great article, I loved it.
73,
John
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by NA4IT on April 27, 2004
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My mic is made up from an old Realistic PA mic with a Yeasu hand mic element in it, place exactly the same distance from the wind screen it would be in the hand mic. It is mounted on a 19" gooseneck. I get good reports from it. I talk about 1-2 inches from it, use VOX, a hand key, or foot switch.
You article was good with the exception of one thing. We should always remember not to attack those that may sound funny because of a speech impediment. That kind of got under my skin, as there is a young man near here who is a ham with a speech impediment. He has as much right to be on ham radio as anyone else.
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by WB2WIK on April 27, 2004
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I'm not knocking anyone with a speech impediment; however, those who have one and haven't taken any steps to improve their speech have done themselves a disservice. Some need professional help, but others could improve a lot just by using a tape recorder and practicing.
I surely agree that cost and results, when it comes to microphones, are mutually exclusive. I usually use inexpensive mikes made for VoIP internet work. One model was on closeout at the local Radio Shack for $1.99/each and sounds better on the air than the $150 desk mikes I have, plus it's easy to adapt as a boom mike with a simple gooseneck accessory...
The "proximity effect" noted in another post, created by close-talking certain types of dynamic microphones and sometimes causing an excessive bass boost, isn't so common. My old Shure SM58's suffer a bit of this, but then that's one reason I don't use them with transmitters.
WB2WIK/6
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by KA4KOE on April 27, 2004
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Good dental work is a must. Spitting into the element is not good for the element, plus its unsightly.
SAY IT, DON'T SPRAY IT!
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by W3JJH on April 27, 2004
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Steve is absolutely correct about a general lack of correlation between cost and acoustical performance in microphones. "Professional" microphones are generally more rugged than cheap mikes, and their perofrmance is generally less variable from unit to unit. However, inexpensive microphones can perform quite well, especially over the limited bandwidth required for ham radio.
When I was working for a company that built recording consoles, we were using a nice $150 microphone for the talkback system in our eqauipment. We found that we could get the same level of speech-range performance and reliability out of a 69 cent electret element.
The filter skirts in a properly aligned SSB IF should roll off the audio response below 300 Hz and above 3 kHz. If the radio's response is 20+ dB down at 10 kHz, the microphone's response at 10 kHz is immaterial. What's important is smooth (not necessarily flat, but smooth) response in the speech range without distortion.
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by K5UJ on April 27, 2004
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<<<...most operators would benefit more from $500 worth of professional vocal training. Improving your diction, enunciation and voice timbre is something that you can take with you everywhere you go, for the rest of your life; it will make you a better public speaker, a better telemarketer, and a better communicator in all facets of life...>>>
WB2WIK, I hate to break it to you, but this is _amateur_ radio. Not to be confused with Toastmasters, movie trailer announcing, radio spot production, voice overs, etc. If you want everyone to sound as if they've had voice training, get your medium wave AM receiver, and tune it to the all news station so you don't have the torture of listening to untrained people (gasp) calling in on talk radio.
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by W3JJH on April 27, 2004
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The proximity effect can occur with any single-D cardioid (dynamic, condensor, whatever). It will also be present in velocity microphones (figure-8 pattern).
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by K6AER on April 27, 2004
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Great article Steve and long over due. It takes a lot of courage to write what we have all heard on the air. I have found that headphones will be the greatest aid in developing a consistent and intelligible speaking style. Next is taking the time to enounce properly. Next have a glass of water to keep your voice moist. Dry vocal cords will sound raspy.
Many of time I have had to ask a DX station to turn down their mic audio to understand their call. When every third call is asking for call clarification this should be your first clue your audio is distorted.
On the subject of amplifiers and audio: There should be no difference between barefoot and the amp being on line as to the way your audio sounds. If there is you are most likely overdriving the amp or the ALC is not properly set up.
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by N3ZKP on April 27, 2004
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<< I hate to break it to you, but this is _amateur_ radio. >>
That doesn't mean we have to SOUND like amateurs. The goal here is to comunicate effectively and there are far too many hams that can't do that because they mumble, speak too fast, fail to ennunciate properly, etc. I have found that most people who do these things are too lazy to learn to speak correctly.
Learning to speak correctly and clearly is a goal for anyone, no matter what the field.
Note: This has nothing to do with speech impediments beyond a person's control.
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by KG6EJT on April 27, 2004
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Another great article, Steve. Thanx!
By the way, Steve helped me with this very problem on the air a few weeks ago and I am very greatful. He suggested the same things to me as he did in the article and they have worked well. Additionally, as per Steve's suggestion, I turned the pre-amp off on my MC-60.
73,
-Larry
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by K3ZE on April 27, 2004
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Just do like most new Hams do: rest your nose on the top of the mike, make sure that your lips brush the front of mike and yell - real loud! That'll get their attention. If you need more bass, chew gum. More treble, talk like Jerry Lewis.
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by K5UJ on April 27, 2004
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WB2WIK
<<<Practice enunciation, using a tape recorder or digital voice recorder. Most people, especially if they've never been broadcasters, have a very incorrect impression of how they sound. The tape playback clears that all up.>>>
N3ZKP
<<<That doesn't mean we have to SOUND like amateurs. The goal here is to comunicate effectively and there are far too many hams that can't do that because they mumble, speak too fast, fail to ennunciate properly, etc. I have found that most people who do these things are too lazy to learn to speak correctly.
Learning to speak correctly and clearly is a goal for anyone, no matter what the field.>>>
Um, I think speaking clearly is an admirable goal. Now, don't you think practicing into a tape recorder is a bit, shall we say, extreme? A little overkill? Somewhat...ridiculous for ham radio? This, in order to call cq and have a qso? Say, "hi there" to someone on the repeater? What's next, a talking part of the license exam?..."Here, read this." "CQ CQ frum kay fahve yew jay..." "I'm sorry; you failed; you don't know how to talk." "Shucks. I was going to audition at K1MAN."
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by W5ONV on April 27, 2004
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Great article,well written and very interesting.Thanks and 73.Jim
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by W3DCG on April 27, 2004
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LOL!
Yeah I had one of those momentary lapses, adjusted the mic gain so that the ALC light came on most of the time, instead of only on the peaks.
Duh. Guy on the other end said I was overmodulating.
Told him thanks for the report, I'd make adjustments, then I flitted away back to the simpleness of the CW portions of the band.
I hate to think how bad I sounded!
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by KE4MOB on April 27, 2004
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"...There are far too many hams that can't [communicate effectively] because they mumble, speak too fast, fail to ennunciate properly, etc. I have found that most people who do these things are too lazy to learn to speak correctly."
Gee, where have heard the term "lazy" before? Oh yeah, I almost forgot. It's also the most popular answer to the question "Why can't Johnny learn CW?"
You called someone lazy. Them's fightin' words in ham radio these days....
I see a movement starting...maybe "No Enunciators International"?
Nahh...the members couldn't pronounce the name of their own group.....
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by WI4CW on April 27, 2004
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Good article - hopefully provokes thought about operating practices.
I have alittle note to add. We have some folks - and I mainly hear it on a local repeater in our area. These folks moan, sigh, cough, exhale in to their mic.
Geeeez o man.... I hope some of them read this.... I dont know them personally yet... Or I'd say something to them in private (the one that does it of course).
Next person I qso with that happens to read this note will probably make all those noises just to get my goat- LOL...
73 all
de Ken
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by WI4CW on April 27, 2004
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Good article - hopefully provokes thought about operating practices.
I have alittle note to add. We have some folks - and I mainly hear it on a local repeater in our area. These folks moan, sigh, cough, exhale in to their mic.
Geeeez o man.... I hope some of them read this.... I dont know them personally yet... Or I'd say something to them in private (the one that does it of course).
Next person I qso with that happens to read this note will probably make all those noises just to get my goat- LOL...
73 all
de Ken
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by KD5VHF on April 27, 2004
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<< That doesn't mean we have to SOUND like amateurs. The goal here is to comunicate effectively and there are far too many hams that can't do that because they mumble, speak too fast, fail to ennunciate properly, etc. I have found that most people who do these things are too lazy to learn to speak correctly.>> Down here in Tx we think YALL guys up north talk funny and way too fast. Heck you don't need $500.00, Just bring a 12 pack and we will have you talking correctly in no time. If you can't afford to make the trip or more important if you can't afford the 12 pack, then just tune in to "The good ol boys" net and practice. ;-)
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by K0RFD on April 27, 2004
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K5UJ wrote:
>Now, don't you think practicing into a tape recorder
>is a bit, shall we say, extreme? A little overkill?
I can't speak for WIK. But personally, no, I don't think practicing into a tape recorder is overkill.
It all depends on why you transmit.
Is it to be understood? Then you want to practice being understood. The tape helps.
Is it just to hear yourself talk? Well, shoot. No better way to do that than to talk into a tape recorder.
In any case, practice makes perfect. Nothing wrong with hearing what you sound like on the air. Unless, of course, you don't want to know.
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by K0RFD on April 27, 2004
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KD5VHF wrote:
>Just bring a 12 pack and we will have you talking
>correctly in no time.
That only works on 75 meters.
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by NE0P on April 27, 2004
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Just run CW. Solves all of these problems.
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by N3ZKP on April 27, 2004
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<< Now, don't you think practicing into a tape recorder is a bit, shall we say, extreme? A little overkill? Somewhat...ridiculous for ham radio? >>
Not if you can't speak clearly, ennunciate correctly, talk at a reasonable speed in the first place.
The average person, hams included, have no idea what they sound to other people unless they do listen to themselves via a tape recorder. Most people don't believe they really sound the way they do.
Just because you belittle the suggestion doersn't make it any less valid.
I listened to a ham give his call sign four times tonight on a local repeater and he talked so fast and mumbled to the point no one could understand him until someone told him to speak more slowly. Happens all the time.
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by N3ZKP on April 27, 2004
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KD5VHF -
Watch it! I AM a Texan and both my children were born there. I'm temporarily forced to live among the heathen. :)
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by KA4KOE on April 27, 2004
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Go to W5TOM's website,
http://home.houston.rr.com/w5tom/index.html.htm
He talks about how to make your station sound great, ie "upgrading your primary modulator". The solution involves Olive oil. Great website and funny as h-e-double toothpicks.
Philip
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by W4CNG on April 27, 2004
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Yes, Steverino, you have made it a habit not respond to a call from anyone who sounds in your opinion as having any form of "Enhanced Audio", by any means on the air. I have called you 2 times and been given the "Conditions are Fading Here Report", nuff said. Yes, there is a lot of problems with SSB Audio. The 1-2 inches away from the "Hand" mic does not fit the bill for everyone. Having grown up in "Broadcast Radio and Television" in the 60's and 70's, and running audio boards from well known groups to DJ's, you forgot to include the "Splatter Shield". That is the POP Splatter "Sock" that is on the MIC, or the semi-transcluentent shield between the mic and the DJ. There are lots of pictures of the shield and Sock out on the internet for all to see. I'm using the same Radio Shack mic, sock, shield, and audio rack today as I have for the last 3 years. I sound better than 99% of the rest of SSB operators out there. You sound into the 98% category when I heard you. There is a lot of room for improvement for most.
Steve W4CNG
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by KD5VHF on April 27, 2004
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<<Watch it! I AM a Texan and both my children were born there. I'm temporarily forced to live among the heathen. :)>> N3ZKP, There you go. A perfect way to finance that new rig you've been wanting. At $500.00 a pop you can give speach lessons to them fellers around you. Start with Aye Eya Ahy Owe Youwe. Maybe even host a DX net so them fureners can learn to speak english without a accent so some folks won't get irritated by the way they talk. HI!
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by VE7XF on April 28, 2004
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Great article, Steve, as always!
I disagree a bit about the hand mic - the built-in ptt switch usually causes unneccessary clunks/pops in the audio.
VE7XF,
50 years of hamming, 45 years of pro sound recording.
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by AE6IP on April 28, 2004
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Broad advice on how to use a microphone is a lot like EPA MPH figures. Your mileage will definitely vary.
Different mikes have different reception patterns, frequency characteristics, noise handling ability, et cetera.
Some mics *are* designed to be talked across. Most notably certain headset mics, such as some used by helicopter pilots, cell phone users, and "pop stars".
Other mics are designed to be most effective at various distances, and many are designed for very specific purposes. So be sure that whatever mic you use, it's one that's intended for voice, and not some other purpose.
But even among voice mics, there's a range of patterns, frequency responses, and noise handling.
Bottom line: if you don't want to become an audio engineer, stick with mics specifically designed for amateur voice use, and use them as recommended by their manufacturer.
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by G5FSD on April 28, 2004
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You asked Why is it that only about ten percent of all hams using the phone bands actually sound good on the air?
Because.. as usual.. 90% of anything is trash.
And guess what, they won't be bothering to read your article - so your "change the world" speech fell on deaf ears. They obviously don't care how they sound, what makes you think your article will change that?
Plus, talking across the mic DOES help if the mic is prone to popping and catching breath wind noises.
As for getting lips into actual contact with the mic, and speaking loudly.. have you ever heard the typical distortion that results on professional two-way radio (business) systems? A lot of them sound so horrendous you can't understand a word.. you just wish you could shout back and say 'back off!'. Seems to be worse in these FM days than it ever was with AM systems.. maybe FM two-way radio designers don't pay attention to audio as much? No audio ALC any more?
Oh, and equalisation CAN help. The intelligability is in the higher region 500Hz-2kHz, and much quieter than the dominant droning resonance of the vocal cords in the bass region, so cutting down the levels in certain low-frequency regions (particular to the specific person) really can help boost the overall understand-ability. A nice clear electret (condenser) mic will give you a good smooth sound from the outset, compared to many dynamic mics with their 'coloured' response.
Also bear in mind that it seems to be standard practice these days for stock mics to come with very dense foam inside, which muffles the audio a lot. Many people are opening these mics up and replacing these with thinner, more 'open cell' bits of foam - with great results.
Apart from that, not bad advice for anyone willing to listen. 73
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by K3ESE on April 28, 2004
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Yes, as mentioned, an excellent fix is to place the mic in a drawer, dust off those paddles, and run CW. Ahhhhh...
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by KB1KIX on April 28, 2004
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Bravo!!!!
I think I'll use this when I help out in our next technician class, or as a handout for new hams!
Great way to address the issue.
Jonathan
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by K0BG on April 28, 2004
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Allow me to add one little comment about diction and speaking clearly.
Since I was a boy, I suffered through school with what most people would call a lisp. The correct term in my case was; a latereral inconsistant ess. At about age 42, I went to see a speech therapist about it. In less than 30 days and only three visits, it was gone! It didn't cost $500 (less than $200 as I recall) and my health insurance paid for it!
If you have a similar problem, I suggest you get it taken care of. Don't wait until you're in your 40s. You'll be glad you did.
Alan, KØBG
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by WB2WIK on April 28, 2004
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Re talking "across" the microphone: There may be some mike out there somewhere where this works well, but I haven't come across it yet. Of the hundreds of microphones I've owned, built and used, not one sounded better, or as good, talking "across" it.
I agree about the "PTT switch" noise from some microphones, hand-held or not. The loudest "PTT switch" problems I've heard over the years come from desk mikes, since the "clunk" can resonate pretty loudly when tightly coupled to a desk. Footswitches or VOX operation obviously help a lot.
In my work place we stock many varieties of cellular foam (filters) in sheet form, from very dense to very open. All except the very densest high-density foam are transparent to acoustics in the audible range -- as destermined by well instrumented tests in our aneochoic chamber, not by guess or by ear. As such, they are pretty much dust filters, and that's mostly what we use them for.
WB2WIK/6
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by KB5PQL on April 28, 2004
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I have a job...and it's NOT amateur radio ;)
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by K3RMX on April 28, 2004
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Thanks for the info, Steve. Your posts are always useful.
Can you give some suggestions concerning headsets, please. It's been 20 years since I used a headset, and am interested in your thoughts about "cup over the ear" style vs. "foam laying on the ear" style, the heavy duty aircraft style vs. the small bud style mics, etc., etc. Also, any suggestions on brand names? (just opening up a new office, so I don't think I can afford Heil just yet.)
73, Steve, K3RMX
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by OBSERVER11 on April 28, 2004
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the trouble with desk mics is that unless you live in a sound stage, you sound like you are either in the bathroom or the laundry room.
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