What's up, Elmer?
Tory Wiedenkeller (KD6IQS)
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What's the deal with elmers?
On several occasions, I have attempted to find someone in my area who would serve as an elmer (mentor) to help me learn Morse code.
On each occasion, I either am told that the person is not interested (even after being told they're an elmer), or if they do agree to help, they find some way of backing out of it -- coming up with excuses that they've forgotten about a previous engagement or one thing or another.
This not only reflects poorly on them, but on the whole elmer system in general. If these people are going to say they're an elmer, then they should do it. If they're not interested, then they should remove their names from the list. They want the title and respect of being considered an elmer, they just don't want to put in the time to do it.
I had one elmer who did agree to help, but upon going to his house every week to learn code, I discovered he was more interested in telling me about his career. This would have been okay if he'd only done it once. But he'd spend 50 minutes of each hour (every week) going over the same career highlights.
I guess it just goes to show. You get what you pay for...
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by K4JSR on May 2, 2004
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Move to Bethlehem, Georgia. I would be more than
happy to help. Barring the move, though, I am certain
that it would be beneficial to scour your area for
ham radio clubs. Find a club you like and ask if they
have anyone who will help you. I will tell you now that it will take more sessions than one hour a week.
You and your Elmer should find a commercially available code course that you both agree on. Then
you should be prepared to spend about 20-25 minutes a
day on that course--every day. Consistency is the
watch word. Practice every day for short periods is far more beneficial and less frustrating than one or
two long sessions each week. Some days you will do better than others. On days that you seem to be going backwards, quit the practice for a while, or even skip further practice that day. Be sure to resume your regular practice the next day. Have your
Elmer check you out once or twice a week and offer you
what ever advice and encouragement you need.
After you have learned about half of the code, including letters, numbers, punctuation, procedural
signs, and etc., start copying W1AW on slow days.
Copy every thing you can and don't worry about what you miss. Before long you will miss less and less
until you become an error free copier at 7.5 WPM.
Then go take your code test. As soon as pass your
code test and no longer have the pressure to pass on
your mind, your code speed will jump up about two to two and a half WPM!
Good luck on your endeavor! Your efforts will be rewarded by the same amount of success as the work
you put into it. Just relax and enjoy the learning
experience. And let time take time!
73 Cal Neff K4JSR
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by N4OZI on May 21, 2004
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In the old days, the Novice band was the best place to learn the code. A large number of Amateurs in those bands were Amateurs with higher class licenses. The Novice bands served all Amateurs back then because it was a great place to go to brush up on your code. Once you got your code speed back up you could move to other parts of the band. Mean while, you could be a kind of Elmer to the Novices. It was kind of funny, you could hide the fact that your code speed was slow by saying you were just there to help out the Novices, LOL! Still, the system worked real well back then.
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by K1IR on May 21, 2004
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Here's what I did to learn the code:
A. Made a set of "flash cards" to memorize the symbols
B. Built a code practice oscillator to practice sending
C. Got a receiver to listen to code on-the-air
I wanted to learn it so badly, I used these tools every day for a long time. My mom was not a ham, but she helped by flashing the flash cards. I spent hours sending code on an imaginary straight key in every spare moment I could find during the day. And, I listened to W1AW code practice sessions religiously. Copying real stations transmitting content that you find interesting is very motivating. And, with the additional availablility of computer-generated code practice, there are more than enough sources of code for you to copy these days.
It was not easy for me to get to 5 wpm. I am now a 45 wpm op, but that first hurdle of learning the characters and getting to 5 wpm was the toughest.
A mentor can certainly be a great help, but you can be your own mentor and do just as well.
Another helpful tool is working with a peer who is trying to do the same thing. Meet regularly with a friend, someone who is at the same stage as you are. That's actually a lot of fun. Challenge each other to your own made-up copying contests.
The biggest factor in successfully mastering cw - with or without a helper/mentor - is to convince yourself that it is *easy* - not hard. There are only about 40 characters you need to learn. How hard can that be?
73 - you'll do great!
Jim K1IR
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by N2LJD on May 21, 2004
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One way to learn and (later) practice is to find a slow speed net in your area. Here on the NY/NJ border I've two: the Empire Slow Speed Net and the New Jersey Slow Net.
Two I've found on the ARRL website for California are:
Northern California Net/2 – Slow Speed 3.705 Dy 9:00 PM
Poinsettia Slow Speed Net 7.129 T Th 8:30 PM
Even though you can't yet transmit there, you can listen, which is the idea. Good luck, and hope to catch you on CW sometime!
73
LJD
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by NE4TT on May 21, 2004
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Tory,
Congrats on your decision to learn CW.
Attitude is the major hurdle to accomplishing your goal of CW proficiency.
I encourage you to continue searching for an Elmer for CW instruction.
Check The ARRL for other clubs in your area.
http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/club/clubsearch.phtml
I found my Elmer through an announcement of a CW class on a local 2M net.
Some clubs sponsor CW training on the 2M freqs.
The MFJ 418 Code Tutor is a compact unit that is excellent for portable training.
You can find one used for approx $40/$60.
Here are helpful CW links.
Check out Chuck Adams, K7QO, code instruction, with the ARRL CW CDs.
http://www.qsl.net/k7qo/code.pdf
Also Dave Finley, N1IRZ, Koch Method.
http://www.ees.nmt.edu/sara/sara/finley.morse.html
http://www.ees.nmt.edu/sara/sara/finley.sm404.html
http://hfradio.org/koch_1.html
More good info from William G. Pierpont N0HFF
http://www.qsl.net/n9bor/images/The%20Art%20&%20Skill%20of%20Radio-Telegraphy%203rd%20edition%204-02.pdf
73 NE4TT Jamie
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by AC5E on May 21, 2004
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Well, to be blunt, Elmering someone on Morse is not only time consuming, but dealing with the inevitable impatience and a student who insists on sending far faster than they can copy and that very poorly to be nerve wracking. ET sent the way most begginers send those letters sounds like A to the Elmer - and then the student wonders if their teacher can really copy Morse.
While I don't mind a session a week or so I find it's generally easier on all concerned for the student to either find another Morse student or to use a computer program that generates code. Programs such as NuMorse (check the reviews for the name change) and the other KOCH method training programs do a great job, and they have a huge advantage over live sessions.
The computer does not get steamed after the learner hears e and puts down a the ten thousand and sixth time in a half hour. You can practice in private and the computer will let you know you are wrong until you get it right. You LEARN to copy code properly from the get go. Then live sessions become progress checking sessions, and MUCH more rewarding and friction free for both the student and the teacher.
I hope that helps, and good luck with the code.
73 Pete Allen AC5E
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by K9FV on May 21, 2004
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What Allen is most correct. Use the computer, there are free programs to use and a computer is the best of all for an elmer. With a computer you can be sure you NEVER hear a letter at less than 15/18wpm character speed. AND that is very important as the test is given at about 15wpm character speed with spacing for 5wpm.
Good luck and USE the computer!!
Ken
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by N3EVL on May 21, 2004
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You can also get help from the people on this email group - ideas on learning methods, and when you're ready, you can arrange slow-speed skeds etc. Check out the following:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/QRS-CW/
Another way to practice is via internet CW - sorry, can't remember the name of the software off the top of my head, but it allows you to have use CW over the internet - you can hook up a key to your pc or use a key on the keyboard to tap it out - I had a fb 'QSO' with a guy in Japan on my first try. No doubt you can track down this software via google.
73, Pete, N3EVL
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by K5DVW on May 21, 2004
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I could see how it might be very frustrating to try and help someone with CW. It's kind of like trying to teach someone music. It takes a VERY SPECIAL and patient person to do that. Especially if you're good at it.
However, you really don't need anyone these days to help with CW. Try downloading the G4FON software off the web. It's free and very effective and it doesnt get frustrated or tell you it's busy.
One more thing, don't learn CW at 5wpm. Don't, don't don't! Sure, that's all you need for the test, but I guarantee you if you burn CW into your brain at 5 wpm, it'll really keep you from getting much faster very quickly. The best method, which the G4FON program uses, sends the characters fast, but puts lots of spaces between the letters (Farnsworth method it's called). It sends the letters at 15 or 20 wpm spaced out to a much slower rate. This way you get used to hearing the code at a reasonable speed and then later you concentrate on reducing the spaces between words. I even hear a lot of newer OPs on HF sending the Farnsworth way. It's much easier to listen to slow code that way, even for the old timers.
Enjoy!
K5DVW
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by VE3WMB on May 21, 2004
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As someone else suggested, there is a QRS CW group on Yahoo that is setup to help folks new to the code to find others that they can setup a sked with. The best way to improve your speed is to get on the air.
Also, no one mentioned FISTS. I would suggest that you join the FISTS CW club and register for their code buddy program as this is a good way to match folks up with elmers willing to help out with code.
Don't give up, CW can be a very fun and rewarding aspect of this hobby. Its not for everyone, but for those of us who enjoy it ... its one of the things that makes Amateur Radio great.
Michael VE3WMB
P.S. As others suggested, there is also lots of good software and code practice tapes out there as well as products such as the MFJ Morse Code Tutor, if you are just getting started.
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by W3DCG on May 21, 2004
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Yep. Use the computer. Very cool hearing you're interested in CW.
It is nice to have someone with whom you can share your quest, a buddy to motivate each other. Often a very lucky find, if you can have it.
Otherwise, given the extremely busy lives of people in general these days, a computer is:
As patient as you are.
There whenever you want to be.
At your level of proficiency.
At any level of profieciency.
I sincerely hope you keep at it. Once you realize a basic level of proficiency, you can only go up from there- on HF, there is all manner of opportunity for practice, and then you are no longer bound locally. You can set skeds, or if that is too difficult to coordinate, simply get on, call CQ at your speed. FISTS hooks up people via their Code Buddy program.
Until then, Google Morse Code Program, and follow the links to free/share-ware.
Godspeed, and 73.
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by K0BG on May 21, 2004
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You've been given a lot of good suggestions and they all work. I didn't have much of an Elmer either, biut I made it anyway. One thing I did was try to send code to myself (in my head of course) of every street sign I encountered. It sure helped, and I still do it to this day.
Alan, KØBG
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by KB2CPW on May 21, 2004
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I would rather practice CW alone or with another newbie than with an elmer. Its much more fun,interesting and challenging for two new guys than someone who is used to 13 or 20+ wpm to foster you along.
Make sure you study the exact type of tapes you will be tested with. I ran into trouble with studying with a Commodore 64 and morse university on a cartridge. When I got to the test site, I froze up as the code was too slow for me when being sent.
Get in touch with the local clubs, have them announce that you are looking for someone to practice with over one of the repeater club nets. There are always new or prospective hams listening for that moment when they are invited to join in on the fun. Give a number that they can call you at or an email address and get to know them.
Good Luck, Richy N2ZD
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by N8IK on May 21, 2004
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Good comments! Elmering is a time commitment especially for learning CW. "Elmer" is a title you earn when your students pass their Element 1. I've found over the years that you never really learn something until you have to teach it. For me it is especially true as a flight instructor but also as a ham radio instructor. N4OZI's comment about working on your own code speed in the Novice subbands under the guise of Elmering is quite useful! You'll learn as they learn. You'll also learn how to teach. Everyone learns at a different rate and requires different teaching styles to be effective. The more you elmer the better you'll get.
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by WA7NCL on May 21, 2004
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When I was young, I sent code to myself using a code practice oscillator and a tape recorder. Now days I would use a computer.
Code is just one of those things like playing a musical instrument. You just gotta practice a lot until you are tired of it, set it down and come back to it a few days later. One day it will just start to snap in. Its really hard for somebody else to help you with that.
The other suggestion is to take the test as many times as it takes. Now days you just need to find a local ham club to take the test. Not like the old days when you had to travel to the FCC only on certain days of the month. I know a lot of people get their first tickets and upgrade just by sheer brute force of taking the test a lot until they learn how to pass. Maybe in the process you will meet some other folks like you who are just trying to pass the test. You should never be afraid to fail, it just part of the process.
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by N5LGV on May 21, 2004
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Contact the FISTS organization. They will pair you up with and "on-air" elmer.
http://www.fists.org/
73
Keith
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by N5LGV on May 21, 2004
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Contact the FISTS organization. They will pair you up with and "on-air" elmer when you get ready for that phase.
http://www.fists.org/
73
Keith
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by N5KBP on May 21, 2004
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The best way to learn code is by yourself. Get one of those cassette tape courses and a walkman type player. Keep it with you at all times. Use it while driving, walking, waiting at the doctors office etc. As has aleady been mentioned, sound out in your mind every sign you see driving down the road. In no time you will have it down. Then use it, use it and use it some more on the bands. You will get your speed up quickly that way. Just my 1/2 cents worth.
Marty
N5KBP
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by N9QCI on May 21, 2004
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I found that I could learn the code working on my own with training material called "Code Quick". http://www.cq2k.com/
I was able to get up past 5 WPM and pass Element 1 with a score of 100% on my first attempt. This was after using the "code quick" system for about 3 weeks. I did not spend as much time each day as they suggested nor did I use all the practice and reinforcement techniques that were suggested, so instead of getting it 'mastered' in 2 weeks as they "promised", it took me three weeks. I just listened to the CD's in my car while driving to and from work (about one hour per day total)..... I did spend some time in the evening practicing also. The code quick system has 3 more CD's that I have not yet used, that promise to get you up to higher speed (17WPM and higher) in another two weeks of practice.
The system is fun, and because I was able to see and measure my progress it kept me interested and motivated. I recommend it, and they have a "money back" guarentee also.
73,
Michael
N9QCI
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by KF6JZC on May 21, 2004
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You don't need an elmer to learn the code. Try www.aa9pw.com. This web site not only can help you learn code, it will also test you on the different classes of amateur licenses as well as commercial if that is what you want. I used this site to learn code well enough to pass the general test. It is also useful for brushing up.
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by WIRELESS on May 21, 2004
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Complain, complain, complain. All those who can't find someone to spoon feed them what they want to learn, how do you people find jobs? Your employer is not going to do it.
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by WB2WIK on May 21, 2004
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I don't agree it's easier or better to learn the code "by yourself." It's surely possible, and thousands have done so, but it's more fun and faster to have a partner. However, the partner needn't be an "Elmer," and it's probably better if he's not.
Unfortunately, Los Osos is a bit in the "boonies" and not too close to me or I'd be happy to help find you a study partner. But, I'd think that in the central coast region, at least within 15-20 mins of you, there's someone else who'd like to practice code and work with you. It's a matter of finding that person!
Working with a study partner really helps a lot: You can both use oscillators and keys to send back and forth to each other, using real language and not letter groups or something boring like that. And you can learn to "head copy" right from the start, without resorting to paper and pencil, which actually is far easier than writing down the "copy." Once you get used to simply listening to the code like it's a language, you get so good at it, you'll wonder why anyone ever writes anything down.
Of course, with a Tech license, you can do your "partner study" over the air, using 2m FM or some other VHF allocation, and "MCW" (modulated continuous wave, using tone modulation from oscillators). That way, you have all the advantages of buddy-study without having to actually go anywhere.
There must be a radio club or two in the S.L.O. area where you can find someone to study with -- and again, it's much better if that person is beginning and at a level similar to yours, and not a code pro.
I started out 40 years ago with a study-buddy who was a neighbor of mine, who became WB2WND when we both passed our tests (together). We used little oscillators and $0.99 keys from Lafayette Radio, and spent about 30-45 mins a day just sending back and forth to each other. We were both at 13+ wpm in two weeks. Back then, a "computer" was something that occupied most of a building and cost a million dollars, and I never would have imagined we'd actually have them in our homes...
WB2WIK/6
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by KW4N on May 21, 2004
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Tory: You have a lot of good suggestions, however, I agree that you don't need an Elmer-in this case. Learning CW is pretty much a self-indulgent activity that requires heavy concentration for a short period, ala 5 minutes at a time, three to four times a day. Every day! This follows the rule of distributed learning, one of the very best ways to study and learn.
Google G4FON and download his software that is free. It's one of the best and he has very practical suggestions in learning the code (developed by a psychologist.) It is known as the Koch method.
The key thing is to persist and not overdo your practice sessions. Take your time and think in terms of months.
In the privacy of your home you can stay focused and do things at your own pace.
Good luck!
Dave KW4N
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by N6AJR on May 21, 2004
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go to G4FON.co.uk and get his code tutor, and there is also a scoring system there too, both free. check it out. it works and its FREE..good luck tom N6AJR
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by N8BOA on May 21, 2004
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Don't try to do all at once memorize 8 letters at a time then move to the next 8. then go back to the first group back and forth and finaly mix them and then copy words thats how I did it at age 12 1972 My Elmer WA8HAA Jim help me with loaner radios and the test but the code was all me Of course I had to try to beat my friend (WN8MMG) and pass the test first I finish second WN8NUG
SEAN
N8BOA
You can do it
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by W0FM on May 21, 2004
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In 1960, my code practice buddy was at the same level I was on the learning curve. We both knew nothing except what we had retained from Boy Scouts.
We each had Knight-Kit or Alinco code oscillators that we practiced with individually. When we did get together, we were convinced that we added some "realism" to the session by his being upstairs in the garage and me being downstairs in the basement. We connected our Code oscillators with about 50ft of cloth covered bell wire (remember cloth covered bell wire?)
Anyway, it was fun, it worked and we called it "DX" because we couldn't see each other.
73 and good luck with your studies.
Terry, WØFM
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by AB9FH on May 21, 2004
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MorseMail is a program that lets you practice sending and receiving CW.
http://www.seanet.com/~harrypy/MorseMail/
You can exchange messages with a friend in either of two ways. You can connect to a server like brasspounder.com with the MorseMail program, and leave a message under his callsign (or name). He can pick it up at any time over the next several days. Or you can copy the message from the MorseMail program into conventional email; your friend can copy the message into MorseMail on his computer and play it there. The program simulates a straight key or paddles using your mouse. The author has plans available to connect your key to your computer as well.
I would also repeat the endorsement of the FISTS organization. I posted a note on the guestbook of their site, and received 3 offers to serve as my code buddy within a day or so.
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by K7FD on May 21, 2004
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You can blame someone else or you can take it upon yourself to learn, without the aid of an elmer. In fact, receiving code is one of the easiest things to learn on your own given the computer software available today. Once on the air, you can join FISTS and join their Code Buddy program to further your sending abilities.
John K7FD
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by N6PEH on May 21, 2004
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Tory's point is not about learning code. It's about people being flakey, unreliable and not true to their word. All to common an occurrence these days. It has been my unfortunate experience that 9 out of 10 people are full of crap. They say things without any regard for commitment. I say it's better to keep your mouth shut than to lead someone on. I have contacted several people about doing code scheds. Most all of them have been real eager to do it but never show a lick of interest beyond that. When it's go time, they flake. Grrrr!
Tory, let this be a life lesson to you; don't put your faith in just anybody, 9 out of 10 times they will let you down. Finding a person you can trust takes a long time and patience. Don't set yourself up anymore. Just because someone has their Ham ticket doesn't guarantee a good character.
Pursue the code though, you don't need anybody to hold your hand with that anyway. I learned the code by myself to get my license. Now days on HF, CW is the only mode I work. It is really fun and challenging.
Good Luck es CUL!
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by K6BBC on May 21, 2004
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Can't we come up with a better term than Elmer? It makes us all sound very unsophisticated.
K6BBC
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by N6AJR on May 21, 2004
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I don't give my word easily but when I do I keep it. That is how My folks rasied me. I don't know about others...
Sorry you have a bad experiance with your Elmer?? or was he just helping out. I don't have the patience to "elmer" any more, but I do try to help where i can.
I donate equipment to schools and friends and where I feel a need, and I try to help here and there. I am frequently on eham with a bit of help, or an opinion, but I don't claim to be an elmer.
Don't paint all of the folks in Ham Radio with the same brush, as in all thiings in life, you find the best and worst in any group. Try to lean towards the best.. it is more fullfilling..
73 tom N6AJR
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by KE4DRN on May 21, 2004
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Hi Tory,
Not sure if you have a radio that can copy cw,
so here is a link to the arrl cw transmissions in
mp3 format.
http://www.arrl.org/w1aw/morse.html
I agree that the FISTS is a good way to learn the
code along with various computer programs.
I am using the ARRL CE cdrom along with the above
mp3 cw sessions.
Here is a link to a low cost practice oscillator
you can build yourself
http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/pdf/0102039.pdf
(anyone can view this link)
Hang in there, you be on cw before you know it !
73 james
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by KE2IV on May 21, 2004
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You are really PAYING someone to teach you CW?
If so, he's not an ELMER - he's a PAID TUTOR.
I actually think you post is bogus.
But if you want to learn the code - don't ask here. The CW forever crowd dominates this site. That's why they are always here and never on the air - practicing what they preach!
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by K6BBC on May 21, 2004
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George, another astute point made.
CW is not something that can be taught. Buy tapes, get a program, or learn it from an encyclopedia like I did. My God, learning the code is really not that difficult. I hear so much whining about it I staggered. And 5 WPM, oh please. And I am in favor of dropping it altogether, not because it’s too difficult, because it’s obsolete and an impediment to people joining the hobby. In the Internet age you are asking people to learn Morse? How stupid is that.
K6BBC
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by KC0RUP on May 21, 2004
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I am not an "Elemer". I am new to Amateur Radio, just got my call sign in March of 2003.
While I understand your fustration to find an "Elemer" I would like to point out two things.
One, while it was the other person intent to help you, who enjoyed talking about his career. Maybe he just needed someone to talk with personally, not on the radio. In a way you were helping him by being a listener.
I have read and agree with most of the other comments, except the sacastic ones, and would like to add that if you want to SKED a time with me and pratice sending and receiving code, I will be glad to do it. Contact me at dave@w2ayy.com and we can come up with a time.
Maybe we can help each other and have some fun on the radio at the same time.
Dave
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by WB5HZE on May 22, 2004
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Tory, disregard the Three Trolls & listen to the others- there's a lot of good ideas here. The key points, though- study & practice it yourself (or with a friend who also wants to learn) until you can get over that first learning "hump" and then get on the air ASAP & use it. Skeds are best, & looks like you've got some offers for those already. CQs are good too but don't get discouraged if it takes a while for someone to answer ('cuz there are lots of fine folks out there who will respond to slow code, once they notice you). After you've been on the air a bit, your ability (& confidence) will improve & soon you'll be pounding brass with the best of them.
73 . . Ron WB5HZE
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by W9OY on May 22, 2004
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If you want Elmering I will give you some.
I would use the Farnsworth method which sends the character at a high rate such as 18 wmp but gives a long pause between characters. This allows you to hear the character the way it sounds at a conversational speed. I would not learn character sounds at less than 18wpm to start. 18 wpm is the speed that the brain integrates the sound into a single recognizable character. This does not mean you learn the code at 18wpm just the sound of an indiviaula character. There is a big huge space between each character that brings the overall speed down to say 5 wpm. If you learn the sounds of the characters at a slower speed you will be trying to use a mental look up table and that in the end will slow you down and interfer with your progress. You will have to relearn the code when you go to higher speeds if you don't use the Farnsworth method.
Russ Farnsworth was a good friend of mine. He was blind and a musician who made his living with his ears and his fingers. He was also a genius at teaching code among other things. He fixed all his own rigs and had a experimental antenna field where he designed several extremely high gain VHF antennas that used open wire line as feeders. He used a telephone pole with a trolly track to get the antenna's up and down. He was a true ham.
Here is a link
http://www.teklasoft.com/java/applets/morse/sfiles.htm
use this aplet by copying text into the window. Start out with a few letters to get a feel of the program. Like CQ or CW. When I learned the code was broken down into related letter groups, such as eish5, and tmo0 (zero), ARWL1(one), ndb6, etc. the advantage of this is that you can learn to contrast similiar sounds while learning the letters. You can sit down with a code chart and seperate the letters and numbers based on this pattern. If there are some that don't fit into a tight category just put them in a catch all of 4 or 5 letters. It will take you about ten minutes to catagorize the letters, and you will be learning while you do it.
Once you have ten or 15 letters down make some words out of those letters and copy them into the window. Do this until you get all 26 letters and numbers in your brain. Then add some of the control characters and punctuation such as bt bk sk , . ?
Spend 15 minutes up to twice a day listening and 5 minutes twice a day sending. If you decide to use a keyer get a logikey, from Idiom Press. You can read the reviews on this website. I'm not big on the Bencher paddle and prefer a Vibroplex or Brown Brothers type paddle but to learn just buy something and start. I would not waste my time with a strait key or a bug. A strait key is a novelity and you will not use it in conversational CW, and a bug requires a significant amount of expertise to send good code. It has a steep learning curve and is something you can fiddle with if you want once you have your chops down. CW did not become fun for me until I built a keyer. I built one paddle out of an old openface telephone relay and another out of back to back j-38 strait keys.
Learning code is not unlike learning a musical instrument. Mighty Joe Walsh WB6ACU got to be the guitar player he is by Practice Practice Practice.
Now you have all the information you need to learn the code. Hope to hear you trolling the low end of 40 some day soon
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by WA2JJH on May 22, 2004
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I would be more than glad to work you on the air.
Everybodies advice is on the money!
How I passed 20WPM
1 built a CPO
2 learned 4 letters a day
3 Joined a ham club...
4)RXed W1AW every day for a few weeks.
5)Got novice ticket, worked 40 and 15M CW for months to get up to 15WPM RX. Got lotsa nice QSL card to boot!
REMEMBER IT IS EASY TO SEND FAST ON CW. TX SPEED WILL ALWAYS BE FASTER THAN RX.
SO NEVER SEND FASTER THEN YOU CAN RX!
73 MIKE
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by N9AVY on May 23, 2004
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Lots of good advice from all. Especially liked comments from W9OY on Farnsworth method. Taught Novice classes many years ago and that what I used. Most of my students became 20 wpm Extras.
If you have access to an HF receiver, trying tuning the beacon frequencies from 28.2 to 28.3 mHz.; these are mostly low power propagation beacons running 1 - 20 watts with code speeds of 5 - 15 wpm. Some are weak, but they are excellent code practice since they send same thing 24/7.
Jerry N9AVY
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by K0RGR on May 23, 2004
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My dad was a ham, but when it came time to learn the code, he handed me a code record (records - something we used to have before 8 tracks or CDs)and cut me loose.
I've attempted to recreate something similar to the course I used. It uses the Farnsworth method of sending the code at a higher speed and increasing the spacing. I found a freeware program called "CW_PLAYER" on the net and created a set of files to go with it that break the code down into a series of lessons and different practice sessions.
Unlike the old code record, you could have someone 'cut and paste' other text into the program for you for additional practice when you get through what I've included. You should probably try to get your speed higher than 5 WPM before trying the test, too.
You can find the course at my family website:
http://webpages.charter.net/wf0h
(That's my old callsign - WF-ZERO-H)
Download the ZIP archive and restore it to a directory on your PC. Read the readme file to see which order to play the files.
Good luck, and let me know if you have any problems!
So far, at least two people have passed their code test after using this to learn.
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by X-WB1AUW on May 23, 2004
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You can use my “Elmer”, a bit old fashioned now—code tapes from the ARRL.
5-10 minutes a day, every day, writing down the characters you hear.
Once I got up to 5 WPM, I listened to W1AW, and to people in the Novice sub band.
73
Bob
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by K3DML on May 24, 2004
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No help is needed to learn how to receive CW. Practice is the key. Listen to tapes, records, computer programs, and signals off the air. However, an experienced CW op can help with sending and writing methods (I use a combination of print, script, upper and lower case). Just like golf, it all starts in the grip. My elmer showed me how to send CW for hours on a straight key without tiring. I was taught how to adjust a bug and paddles for electronic keyers. It took just a few minutes to learn "tricks" that lasted a lifetime.
I agree that the "buddy" system is more fun whenever you're learning something new or working to get better at it.
I've got the CW part down; now who can help me with my golf game?
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by K1BRF on May 24, 2004
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some solid comments on this.
I found that Code-Quick was excellent and allowed you to get there faster and also to get better faster because of the way it works.
I bet you could buy it in cassette form on the internet (eBay?) very cheaply if you cannot buy it direct.
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by AF4XK on May 24, 2004
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If you really want to learn code, do yourself a favor and get the CodeQuick -6 CD training course (see above url). I am referring to the CD's where you play the CD's on a CD player (home or car stereo system) and practice copying (i am not referring to a computer program - there are some good free downloads available in computer programs which you can use to supplement the training CD's for any characters that you may be struggling with). CodeQuick is a system, it uses sound alikes (where you change the dots and dashes into words or phrases that you can easily memorize) and it really works and it will stick with you. The 6 CD's will cost about $65.
Quick example:
letter L ._.. sound alike is 'a LIGHT is lit'
good luck.
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by K1CJS on May 24, 2004
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Could it possibly be that most 'elmers' just can't be bothered in attracting people to various aspects of the hobby anymore? Or is it that the 'elmers' can't be bothered in instructing newcomers in a mode that won't be required for license upgrades in the near future?
In any case, the lack of elmers just goes to show the lack of commitment of most amateurs today--its just following the general "to h*ll with it" attitude that's prevalent in society today.
Keep looking. You're bound to find someone somewhere that'll be glad to help.....someday.
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by W8FAX on May 24, 2004
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Go to FISTS.ORG. Join up. Then SIGN up for a code buddy...........It works.
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by N5MZL on May 24, 2004
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OK, Tory. Now that we've waded through all the mess here, let's cut to the chase.
You want to learn Morse code? Truth is, you don't need an Elmer to do that. What you DO need is the willingness to put forth the CONSISTENT EFFORT to learn it, and a copy of the Gordon West WB6NOA code practice tapes (and no, I am in no way affiliated with Mr. West or the W5YI Group).
All you need is a tape cassette player and the Gordon West tapes. The reason I recommend these over whatever others have been proposed is because his tapes and method of teaching the code WORKS. Trust me on this one; if I can learn Morse code (at least enough to pass the exam, which was all I was interested in, as otherwise CW leaves me cold), ANYONE can.
I saw a tape set recently at a local ham store (it's now two tapes, as opposed to the four I used back in the mid-1980s), the price is around $30. He uses the Farnsworth method (the dots and dashes are sent at 20wpm, although spaced out at 5wpm) mentioned elsewhere, which is helpful if you are wanting to increase your speed at a later time.
The whole trick to making this work and learning the code, is really very simple. You just have to be willing to put in the time and effort to study the code, ON A DAILY BASIS.
I cannot emphasize this too strongly; you MUST practice EVERY DAY, at least once, preferably twice a day, for no more than 15-20 minutes at a time. Do NOT practice any longer than that (15-20 minutes), as you would be wasting your time (more than that and you start getting a bad case of brain lock).
You start with tape #1, side #1, and listen to the first 15-20 minutes or so (if I recall right, West will tell you on the tape when to stop). At each successive session, listen to the same segment of tape, over and over, until you feel comfortable with the material covered.
Once you do, move on to the next segment and repeat. Continue like this until you are all the way through the tape set (tape #1, side #2, tape #2, side #1, etc). It should take you about four to six weeks, maybe a little more, maybe less, depending on how well you take to it, but 4-6 weeks is about the average.
At the end of that time, you go to your local VEC place and take the code test; you will waltz right through it.
When I took mine (it was the 5wpm "Novice" test then), I was scared sh*tless, and that's a fact. There was a whole roomful of us, who had been attending these classes at a nearby radio club. The examiner cracks a joke about relaxing and so forth, and then starts the test.
About halfway through the test, it suddenly hits me, "I'm going to PASS this %*$@ing test!", and I distracted myself just long enough to miss one character (I copied a 6 instead of a 7). Otherwise my copy on that test was perfect.
If you want to learn the code and pass that test, this is exactly how you do it, and you don't need an Elmer for this. Theory, that's a different matter entirely; an Elmer is a huge help there.
Good luck and hope to catch you on HP soon.
73 de N5MZL
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by AC9TS on May 25, 2004
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I think the reason there are no Morse Elmers is that learning code is a personal thing. The way one person my teach it may not be the best way for you to learn it. Look at all the responses saying "Go out and buy product XYZ. It worked for me." There are lots of different ways to learn it. When I learned it, I used a book with cartoon like pictures in it. I still remember some of the associations; a racecar for R (a wheel, the body of the car, another wheel), a fish for F (2 eyes, the long body and the small tail).
Everybody learns certain things in a certain way. Don't be discouraged. Keep looking for an Elmer that may be able to help, but don't give up studying on your own.
Good Luck!
Tom - AC9TS
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by N6KEK on May 26, 2004
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Why would you need so much help learning the code at your age? You learned like everyone else by age of 6 26 letters of the alphabet and probably could count to one hundred.
How hard could learning 26 alpha characters 10 numerals and a few other sign characters. How many of the thousands of hams there are today and have been since the amateur service started learned it. Really how hard is it??
I am so amazed at how many complain about how hard the code is to learn. It really boils down to just really how bad to you want to pass the proficiency test. I bet if your employer required a proficency test to get a 2 dollar an hour raise you would be makeing 2 bucks an hour more in no time.
Bob
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by W2CSH on May 27, 2004
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I tried the same thing. Go buy Code Quick. I learned 15 WPM in 30 days. You don't have to leave your house and its worth every penny. I passed my copy on to three other new hams who had the same results.
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by BX2AH on May 27, 2004
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I used Morsecat computer program to learn Morse
code and I had no elmer. I passed local
5PM test in 2 months by listening to it 5-10 mins
per day. (www.morsecat.de, freeware). another
2 months to pass 13WPM.
the steps are:
1. memorize A-Z, etc in 2 weeks.
2. set the Morsecat speed to 5 WPM then listen and copy.
3. if you can copy 80% of the 5WPM , go to
6WPM, then to 7WPM, etc. you gain confidence
each day as you see you improve little by
litlle. if you can copy 80% of 8WPM, you
are ready for 5WPM test.
This method was later adopted by our club(CTARL
northern branch) and we helped 11 new hams to pass 13WPM Morse test and became a BV/BU in just 1 year. Now
we are short of newbies to teach them Morse :>
give this method a try. If
our local English-challenging newbies can, you certain
can, too.
73, Frank Chen, bx2ah
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by K6BBC on May 30, 2004
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Has anybody read that ridicules petition the FISTS organization submitted to the FCC? They are lobbying for an increased code requirements! Somehow, they managed to claim that CW is necessary for homeland security. I for one believe keeping the code requirement for amateur licensing is destructive to the future of the hobby. Does anybody know what the average age of FISTS members are? It must be quite high.
K6BBC
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