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CB to 10 (MHz)

Norman Sullivan (NZ5L) on May 29, 2004
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At this time in the current sunspot cycle it seems that by the time I get home the upper bands are quiet. Forty is hopping, but very crowded and noisy. "Thirty"--10 MHz--has space, no phone QRM, and with a power limit of only 200 watts, a more level playing field. -- So what for an antenna?

All the useful dipole supports near the shack were already in use, so a vertical was a logical choice--let's see, 234/10.1=about 23'5" or so--uh oh, no pole that tall on hand. An old edition of the Handbook details the "helically wound vertical" that can use a much shorter support pole. Hey, that old CB "Big Stick" fiberglass form looked just about right. It had a sturdy 12' lower section, all fiberglass (I'm sure it's similar to a lot of different brands of CB "half wave" verticals that a lot of us have kicking around). The book states that a half-wave of wire, wound evenly as a helix, will fall just short of an equivalent quarter-wave vertical.

After winding 46' from top to bottom, hooking a few 23' radials to the coax shield, and testing for SWR it was found to be a bit short. No real problem, I spliced a couple more feet of (insulated, #16 speaker) wire to the end and tried again. After a few tries the SWR was 2:1. I should have been content with that, but I am a bit of a purist and tried shortening and lengthening the wire, but 2:1 seemed to be the lower limit, perhaps it was already "resonant" but the resulting impedance was something other than 50 ohms, likely closer to 25? What finally succeeded was an old trick I read about somewhere, of using an old piece of coax as a capacitor. I soldered the center wire of a 4' length of RG-58 to the antenna and the braid to the radial connection, and tried again. This worked, and at about 30" of coax the SWR was now 1.5:1--good enough to get the full power out of my IC-718. Every installation will be different, of course, but this technique may be useful if you run into that situation.

Performance? It's no beam, but I get reports similar to those I give, which isn't bad for six watts output. Perhaps a dipole 46' up would be more efficient, but below that the radiation angle would be high and most DX comes in at a low angle. Oddly enough, this antenna seems quieter than my 40 Meter Inv. L, but this could be due to the higher frequency.

If you need a quick antenna for this band try the helix--I'll be happy to correspond with anyone wanting more info. 73, GL..._._

P.S. The reference to "CB" in the title was just a ruse to get your attention-did it work? Actually, no reason you couldn't use a pole-vaulting pole or a sturdy bamboo if well lacquered and taped. Even PVC would probably be OK, but the thin stuff is too weak and the thick stuff too heavy. Raw wood would likely saturate after a rain, but almost any good dielectric should do the job. I haven't tried an old plastic garden hose, but that would probably work too, supported internally by a nylon rope. Perhaps there should be a prize for the most imaginative support pole?

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a quick antenna for you  
by KZ1X on May 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Ha, ha on the 'CB' ruse.

Cheap, effective 30 meter band antenna suggestion:

Get some 300 0hm twin-lead. The dark colored UV resistant type sold by The Wireman, or The RFC and others is great, but even the less costly version sold at Radio Shack will do.

Cut a piece 46' 2.5" long. Measure a distance 19' 5.25" out in each direction from the center of the 46' 2.5" length, and short the two wires out at these dimensions. Short also the far ends of the 46' section. Physically reinforce the ends such that the antenna can be supported from them.

Cut another piece of 300 ohm line, 24' 2" in length. Measure 4' 10" from one end, and, using a sharp Xacto knife, open up just enough insulation around each conductor to solder on a 110 pF dipped silver mica capacitor. Don't have this value? Try two 47 pF in parallel, or two 220 pF in series. Seal the connections with liquid electrical tape, and then heat-shrink tubing if you have it.

At the middle of the 46' long piece, cut ONE of the conductors, and solder to tyhe resulting ends the two wires of the 24' 2" section that is furthest from the capacitor.

At the end of the 24' 2" piece, connect whatever sort of fitting you use for your radio, a PL-259, or what not. Personally I use a 5-way binding port to BNC male, but this is not critical.

You now have a durable, cheap, resonant antenna for 10 MHz, that can be installed as a flat-top, sloper, vee, you name it. No tuner required. Install at any height you can. Roll it up and store it when you're done, or leave it installed where you find it works best.
 
RE: a quick antenna for you  
by N4ZOU on May 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
My local Radio Shack no longer stocks 300 ohm twin lead. They don't stock much of anything related to something other than cellphones. I guess you could call a cellphone a radio but I think they should change there name to Cellphone shack.
 
RE: a quick antenna for you  
by KG5JJ on May 30, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Har! Title brought back memories of modifying CB radios to work on 10 meters only, with Phase Modulation by coupling audio to a varactor in the PLL/VCO section, inserting the appropriate offset mixer crystal to bump down to 10 meters, inserting an FM discriminator board, complete with IF stage (455 khz) where the diode detector used to be, and disable the high-level (OK just a few watts) final RF collector audio. Retuning for 10 meters was easier said than done.

We were known as the "Cyber Cowboys" as the CB pc boards most easily modified were called Cyber-something. Oh, the radios were not operational on 11 meters after the surgery. We "rescued" many CB radios for this worthy cause!

But then...

...I read the article and found-out what it was really about! ;-}

73 KG5JJ (Mike)
 
RE: a quick antenna for you  
by IV3SBE on May 30, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Hallo OM,
I've read the construction details of this antenna and could seem difficult to some faint hearted ones. If you wish to experiment with a vertical multiband Aerial just visit http://www.iv3sbe.webfundis.net under ham project, you will find details and pictures on how to build the RYBAKOV mod.806, 30 minutes and you are on the air from 80 to 10m no gap. This aerial shows a very low radiation angle and it does not requires radials or counterpois ( you can add them if you wish).
This antenna is portable only 2 KG and ready for operation in 30 seconds.

Tnx fer looking and feedbacks appreciated.
 
CB to 10 (MHz)  
by N7LT on May 30, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Fooled me too! Thought I'd find another article about converting the ole Hy-gain Cybernet CB boards to 10 MHz! Well, we've converted them to 6 meters....thought someone might of gone the other way and make em work on 10 :)

Great artilce on antennas anyway, hope to have my long wire and AH-3 or AH-4 up and running soon on that band also....great tunner!

73

Lyndel, N7LT
N7LT/B 28.249 MHz and 50.074 MHz beacons
Beacon web page: www.qsl.net/n7lt
 
RE: CB to 10 (MHz)  
by KG5JJ on May 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Yah! I've got to quit "skimming" over the Subject Line and read the subject entirely. All I saw at first glance was CB to 10, the "MHZ" didn't even register.

73 KG5JJ (Mike)
 
CB to 10 (MHz)  
by WA2JJH on March 11, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
NO CB WILL WORK ON 10MHZ! 10m YES.

wHEN THE SUNSPOT CYCLE WAS HOT 20 YEARS AGO, MANY DID CONVERT 11m RIGS TO 10M.

WHY BOTHER.....TOO MANY OFFER COMBO 10-12m RADIO'S.
ILLEGAL AND STUPID!!!!!!!!!!
 
CB to 10 (MHz)  
by AE6RO on April 22, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
I tried a temporary helical vertical for 40 meters once in 1982. Lived in a rented apartment and made one just eight feet tall or so to fit indoors like a pole lamp.
It was a very bad antenna. Even though I used a counterpoise and a tuner I just couldn't get out. I'm not sure if it was the ultralow radiation resistance, ground losses, or the metal stucco lath.
I vaguely thought of trying one again but luckily gave up on it.
 
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