What's in a Call?
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Ken Townsend, W7KID
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May 17, 2004
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What's in a Call?
So how many hams out there have a vanity call sign because they liked the way it looked, the way it sounded either phonetically or in CW, or thought it was "neat" for one reason or another? I got mine because I was looking for a call sign that would be easy to remember to the people that I talked to.
Whiskey KID, pretty easy to remember that one. But, what about the call before I got it? Who had the call, why don't they still have it? Now that we've got the call, what does it mean to us? Just how much does your call mean to others that you've met on the air, and how much "history" do you have in the Ham community that's associated with your call sign?
I recently upgraded to Extra and thought even though the W7KID call was a catchy one, wouldn't it be neat to get a 1x2 or 2x1, or maybe even a 2x2, or a call that starts with A. The latter being the only way I'd get a "KEN" in a call (AK7EN). Although I'm keeping my eye on all you OM's out there, hihi.
So, I started searching through all the available calls. First thing I noticed was that a 1x2 or 2x1 was just about out of the question for a 7 call. Not just one that was catchy, but one period. There just isn't very many, I believe less than a dozen.
One did catch my eye however. W7PT. Now that's nice and short. Not to mention the Papa Tango has a nice sound to it. It was also kind of neat because one of my nick names used to be Pete Townsend. Although none of the fame or fortune ever came with that nick name. So I thought I'd start doing some digging on the previous owner of that call sign. That endeavor is what ultimately prompted me to write this.
W7PT. The previous owner was Phillip H. Barnhart of Cody, WY. Easy enough to find on the "old call sign lookup". So then I did a search through the on line white pages. No Phillip Barnhart, or Phil, or P listed. There were 5 others, but who's to know if they're a relative or not. So I started searching for the name on line. I searched for W7PT. Didn't come up with much, only 2. One was an old listing that said that it was a repeater. I don't show it as a current one, so I figured it might have been an old one he ran. The next one I came up with was a log book that someone had posted on line that had a qso with him. It must have been a while ago, he was number 208 in a fairly long log. By his name "Phil" it said CW Only. I thought, wow, I better get to practicing to hold up to that call. So with not much found there, I started doing a search for the name. I came up with all kinds of hits, but nothing really I was looking for. So, I added Cody, WY to the search. Then I came up with the information that I had feared would be the result of my search. The unfortunate affirmation that Mr. Phillip H. Barnhart was indeed a Silent Key.
I read his obituary with great sadness and blurred vision. He had passed away just a couple years earlier. Exactly 2 years prior to when his call would be available, this March 22, 2004. After reading about him, brief though it was, I felt it would indeed be hard to fill the "shoes" of the call. One of the ham accomplishments noted was that he was "instrumental in starting the first amateur radio club in the area and remained active in it and on the "air waves" until the end." Then it said, "Over and out. W7PT"
So how much do you know about the call that you carry? My W7KID call used to belong to a gentleman not 30 minutes from here. Someone I never met. Although at least in part his legacy still lives on through me. I occasionally get a contact that says, "I think I've worked you before, it's been quite a few years". Although that would have been Mr. Victor Warren of Vancouver, WA, the previous call holder. As of yet, I don't know if Mr. Warren is still with us, but I aim to find out.
So now that the call is yours, what does it mean to you? How many other hams out there does your call mean something to? How many logs has your call been put into, and possibly posted? After doing all the research on the previous call holders I thought I'd see how many peoples lives I've touched so far with my call. Well, lots of little things came up, like every time I'd changed an address, or when I changed my call to the W7KID. And also, for those of you that know me, always buying and selling, changing rigs more than some people probably change their shorts. For me it's fun, trying new things, getting to meet lots of wonderful people while doing it. Thus, lots of old ads popped up. But also, I found myself on a couple logs. One from the Museum Ships special even from 2002, and also in a log from the Reno County Kansas Amateur Radio Association. Then I cam across the 2003 IARU HF world Championship Results. WOW, my call was listed under Oregon! I was 3rd on the list, out of 3, but HEY! I'm not even much of a contester, but there I was listed in the IARU results, how neat is that. A link for the OMISS home page also came up while searching my call. OK, guess they got my application, I'm now a member, and I'm right there on the home page saying so, neat.
Then I did a search for my XYL's call, KD7NVZ. I figured there wouldn't be anything there, she's not real active, but there were a few. Including a hit from our club we belonged to down in Eugene, OR. Apparently there were people asking why Sallie wasn't going to be treasurer anymore because they liked the job she was doing. What a neat thing to read. I'll of course be passing that along to her.
Going back to the above search for information on W7PT, I had emailed a couple people from the Cedar Mountain Amateur Radio Club. I had inquired as to whether that was the club that Mr. Barnhart had helped start. It was, and here was a reply I received just minutes ago:
Ken and Sallie,
Yes, Phil and a few other hams started the Cedar Mountain Amateur Radio Club. He told stories of living around here for many years and being active in the armed forces doing CW for them. He was stationed in AK many, many years ago, and other places too. We all loved Phil, W7PT, and he is very much missed. His wife Winnie is still here.
Carol, K7KD
So, when you're looking to change your call to a "vanity" call, think about taking the time to see just who it was that had it before. Our Silent Keys are our history, and have helped make Ham Radio what it is today.
So, the outcome of all this? I'm keeping my call. Even though it's only been mine for a short time, it already has some of my history associated with it, and the legacy of a ham that came before me.
I would like to express a Very Big thanks to W7PT, Phillip H. Barnhart. Someone I never met, but someone that through his call sign has touched me more than he'll ever know.
--... ...-- --..-- .-- --... -.- .. -..
For Phil, CW Only
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by K1KID on May 17, 2004
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Very interesting subject. I don't think that ANY new call is better that your current call.I am glad you kept it.
73 de K1KID
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by K7SUB on May 17, 2004
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Hi Ken; I had the pleasure of meeting Phil (W7PT) a couple of years before he passed away. He was a great guy and had quite a collection of old radio parts he used to display at our meetings. We all miss him and his wife still comes to our CMARC breakfast meetings.
I held the call K6SUB for some 45 years before we settled in Wyoming and wasn't about to let it go until I found out that K7SUB was available. So I changed my call to K7SUB and the wife is now K6SUB which makes things interesting at times on the local repeater.
Unfortunatly with all the research I have done I haven't been able to find ANY history on K7SUB. Possibly it was a special event call--if anyone knows anything please let me know.
While I was K6SUB I was riding submarines in both the Atlantic and Pacific and many a sailor ham wanted to trade calls.
Thanks Ken for the neat topic.
Bob
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by N9AVY on May 17, 2004
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Nice article. Another aspect of vanity calls is that it makes more work for those who handle QSL cards at the bureaus. Trying to find dates when one call lapsed and when it was reissued is sometimes a lot of extra work.
Several years ago I toyed with the idea of taking my Uncle's W4MO call when he became a SK. He had held that call since 1928. Somehow, I just couldn't bring myself to apply for the call and neither could my cousin who was also a ham. Someone else snatched it up as it allowed him to drop one stinking letter from his callsign. Hope I never run into the guy on the air because I'll be calling him by the wrong name.
As for my own callsign, it looks like a vanity call but it's NOT ! It was issued by the FCC when I upgraded to General; so I kept it. Unfortunately, I was never in Uncle Sam's Navy, but I liked the call so I kept it. A friend who is ex-Navy insists on calling it a "Million Dollar Call" and I keep telling him "show me the money" ! If anyone takes this call after I'm gone, I'll come back and haunt them !
Jerry, N9AVY
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by W3RAZ on May 17, 2004
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My original call was N8VQJ. I lived with that for about ten years. My grandfather was my elmer emeritus as I got my license with no help of him at the time as he was in the nursing home. My grandfather, the original W3RAZ passed in 1996, but my Aunt did not mail the death certificate to the FCC so I had to wait til his license lapsed and 2 years after that! So I was able to snag the Razamatazz call (my grandfather used to call himself that after saying his call). I felt it was a real way to honor his memory and I think about him a little everytime I key the mike.
If my call had been a keeper call (one where when you first see it you just say yup I am keeping it....like my friend, N8CPA).
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by AD7DB on May 17, 2004
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Good article. I got my vanity call after I went onto www.vanityhq.com and searched through available suffixes with my initials. AD7DB kind of jumped out at me, and it sounds good, like "87 dB". I believe it was never used before this as it was among a whole block of calls.
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by K5UJ on May 17, 2004
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I've had my call since 1977. As far as I know it had never been issued before then. If anyone has any knowledge of an earlier K5UJ I would very much appreciate hearing about it.
Jerry: You are taking the issue with your uncle's call sign personally. The ham who got that call as a vanity callsign was innocently looking for a new callsign and probably had no knowledge of you or your uncle. You are behaving as if he wanted to do a number on you. You had an opportunity to get that call and you took a pass. You cannot blame someone else for taking it.
I used to think callsigns should be retired after use. Now I've decided that when people get these callsigns after their owners drop out or go SK, the calls at least get new lives under new blood and do not wind up forgotten about on the dust heap. As with property, we don't really own any of it, we just rent it for a time and then it is passed on. Maybe some day someone with my call will want to know who had it before, and they will find out about me. I like that idea.
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by KA3POY on May 17, 2004
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I settled on my vanity call N5IIT after tiring of sending (with a bug) KA3POY during dx pileups and in contests. N5IIT takes about half as long to send and is very "catchy" in CW.
Meant no disrespect to any former holders of the callsign.
Very best wishes,
Tim
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by W1NK on May 17, 2004
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Nice article.
I was orginally licensed as WB1CRI in the 70's, and later was assigned NG1J sometime in the mid-80's.
I stumbled across my present call, W1NK, when searching available 1x2's in the 1st call district.
Through the help of a few guys over at vanityhq.com, I was able to trace my callsign back as far as 1923. In that year F.L. Hunkins of Lanconia, NH held 1NK (before the 'W' was used).
The next holder of W1NK was Robert Coleman of Revere, MA. He could only be found as far back as 1947. So, I'm not really sure *exactly* when he was assigned the call he held until he became a SK
While it would certainly be interesting to find out more about Mr. Coleman (like when he got assigned W1NK, ham radio achievements, etc), the ultimate would be finding one of Mr. Coleman's QSLs or an original 1NK QSL! Any collectors out there???? ;-)
Frank, W1NK
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by K9IUT on May 17, 2004
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Nice article. I wonder if there are any tools beyond old callbooks to determine a call history (other than the short list at vanityhq.com)? While my call is listed as a vanity call, I actually held both KN9IUT and K9IUT in the 50's and 60's. But I don't remember when I received my licenses! I also don't know the time lag between when a call is issued and when it first appears in a callbook?
How do people reconstruct their call histories (especially when senioritous hits!)
Barry
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by OBSERVER11 on May 17, 2004
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even though I have a 1x2 vanity call, I can find no record of it ever being issued.
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by W4AMP on May 17, 2004
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Originally issued KD4CDB in 1991. Current call was held by Donald Greeanawalt in the US Coast Guard, Virginia Beach, until 1945. Call was unused until 1998 when I picked it up. Mr. Greenawalt's current call is W6OAY.
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by K3UD on May 17, 2004
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Having had two vanity calls I always wondered who had them before I did. My first Vanity call was W3GEO. As far as I could tell, the call was first issued in 1932 or 33 judging from the calls mentioned QSTs of the time period. I have a 1946 and 48 callbook and it was not listed there. I could only conclude that the person who held the call did not renew the license for whatever reason.
I did find that the call was later issued in the 1970s to someone who had most likely moved from another call area and had a 1X3 call... The FCC was replacing 1X3s of one district with 1X3 of another if there was an expired one to be had. By 1983 he was no longer listed.
My present call, K3UD, likely had never been issued until I got it. I found it on Vanity HQ.com in a listing which said that certain blocks of calls in some call areas (Mainly K#U) had never been assigned by the FCC and were now available for issue.
73
George
K3UD
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by K8LEA on May 17, 2004
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Interesting....
My call's original, AFAIK, assigned by the folks in Gettysburg back in the late 50's, in sequence.
Guess it could have been better, but wth....
I can appreciate why the folks who got some of those really off-the-wall 2x3 calls (and some others) might want to change, though.
However, at my age, remembering one from 40+ years ago is probably more likely than remembering a new one.
So I'll keep it.
And, someday, when I'm an SK, well, all I can hope is that whoever gets it will treat it honorably.
I worry a bit about that.... My daughter (who's 18 now) walked into my office about ten years ago:
"Daddy? Can I have your stuff when you die?"
"Sure."
"When?"
AARGH....
Stu K8LEA
(BTW, I don't see John's call on the search, but one of my High School classmates was K8OTM. Try sending that fast....)
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by W6HB on May 17, 2004
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Checking out the history of your call sign can be a fun and satisfying project. Check out http://www.arrl.org/news/features/2002/09/30/1/
for the article I researched and wrote when I became W6HB.
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by N6AJR on May 17, 2004
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I got my call assigned in 1978 as first owner I believe, N6AJR, and have held it ever since.. Hope to leave a legacey for some one in the future if they take my call then Something about Fan Diples perhaps.. November Six All Junk Radio
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by X-WB1AUW on May 17, 2004
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Nice prose.
Concise and easy to read.
Also fun to read.
TU
Bob, AE7G
PS: I applied for this call for the way it sounded on CW. Figured it was easy to copy, no hard to copy characters (B vrs D), or characters used singly in CW (like R or K).
But. people move me to Canada, VE7, or Spain EA7.
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by KF7CG on May 17, 2004
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All my calls have been originals. The 1972 WN4XFX, the 1973 WB4ZFX, and the current, obtained in 1988, KF7CG. There were no better systematically assigned calls when I went from Advanced to Extra so kept KF7CG.
WN4ZFX was one of those old novice specials of long ago, It automatically changed into WB4ZFX when because of codaphobia I went Technician in front of the Commission. There still wasn't a call change incentive when I went Advanced in front of the Commission in 1975.
KF7CG came as a systematically assigned call when I relocated to Idaho and I haven't changed it for a vanity call sign yet. I am now a 13 wpm Extra but will keep my 2X2.
This call is an olld friend and I will have to have some strong convince (like relocation to Alaska or Hawaii) to change it.
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by AE6IP on May 17, 2004
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On a Tangent:
When we built the FM station at our college, the school was know as The Montana School of Mines. Soooo, we applied for, among others, KMSM.
We got it. We used it. We liked it.
They changed the name of the school.
Station's still KMSMFM though.
(AE6IP and KG6NEE were systematic)
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by W3DCG on May 17, 2004
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It would be nice to say mine is a product of ingenious creativity. But it's simply, that my initials were taken in 4-land. That, and KG4PYM was okay, but...
I wonder how many pileups I broke because they thought I was Gitmo. I have explained more times than I can remember, that KG4xx is Guantanamo Bay (US Naval Base), but KG4xxx is just plain, nothing to get excited about, overly populated, W4-land. Sometimes I felt let down, because I often felt like the other end of the QSO was disappointed. I do not know the hx of my current call. I do know the hx of W4DCG, though, and after learning of it, would not have taken it had it been available. A couple people on the air gave me the history of W4DCG, an Elmer extraordinaire- now currently a club call. I learned this from two different guys he elmered, during a couple casual 40m QSOs. Coincidentally, Alva Clark, W4DCG, was issued his call and license in 1934. 32 two years later to the day, I was born. Be that as it may, such is how a 7-lander ends up a 3 call in 4 land.
Cheers,
W3DCG, Atlanta/Marietta.
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by K5YDD on May 18, 2004
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My call previously belonged to Burgin Dunn it dats back to 1957-58. Burgin Dunn was my elmer, friend, and Professor. He was the long time trustee of W5ZD the club station of Texas A&I University... Now Texas A&M at Kingsville. Burgin was a great guy who inspired many to get a ham license he was a Physics professor. He was a kind man. After he passed away, his license cancelled and expired, I waited a period of time whether the School or another alumni would apply for his call. No others did so I took the initiative to become K5YDD. I am very happy I did. I feel I am carring on a tradition of teaching (I give two code courses a year). I make it a point to Elmer just as Burgin did. I also get a great feeling that the call is being carried on.
I really believe this is the most important role of the Vanity Program... continueing tradition.
What's in a call? Tradition, Memories, History... the future.
Henry
K5YDD
P.S.
If anyone has any old QSL cards from K5YDD from Burgin Dunn or from W5ZD please contact me.
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by W2CDO on May 18, 2004
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Ken,
I sure do know the history of my vanity call. It was originally issued to my father as 2CDO in 1923. He lapsed but received W2CDO back in 1961 (when I got my General ticket). He passed away in 1983 and I acquired his call in 2000 when I returned to active operation. To the best of my knowledge, nobody else ever used W2CDO.
Thanks for your article; I enjoyed it a lot.
73,
Peter
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by N4KZ on May 18, 2004
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I obtained N4KZ as a vanity call in December 1996. I am not the original holder. A CW op named Dwight who lived in a Florida retirement community held N4KZ for several years. But he disappeared from the callbook somewhere around 1979 or 1980 -- I assume he became a silent key.
Oddly enough, within a few months of obtaining N4KZ, I was working a Japanese station on 15m CW one night when he said, "Hi Dwight, long time no see." I had the unpleasant task of telling him Dwight was a silent key and that I was Dave, not Dwight.
Since then, the same thing has happened 3 or 4 more times.
But even more odd is the fact that apparently Dwight was not the original holder of N4KZ either. As many of you know, U.S. aircraft are assigned radio callsigns beginning with N. Most aircraft have their callsigns on the side of the plane -- often referred to as their aircraft number. Most aircraft numbers are long but a few aircraft have N 1x2 calls. According to the FCC database for aircraft radio callsigns, N4KZ is an an aircraft callsign assigned to an old single-engine plane in Texas -- I think it's Tyler, Texas, as I recall.
I am really surprised that the FCC has allowed this redundancy to continue over the years with some hams and some aircraft holding the very same radio callsign.
I used to live in a community where a medical helicopter would sometimes land from Louisville, Ky. The helicopter's callsign was N2JH -- JH for Jewish Hospital, in Louisville. N2JH was also a ham callsign assigned at the time to a fellow in New Jersey.
73, Dave, N4KZ
3rd holder of N4KZ
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by AC3P on May 18, 2004
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I can be fairly certain that I am the original owner of my call.
I upgraded to Extra about the time the AA-AL block was re-assigned to the US by the ITU. When I applied for an Extra call sign I was expecting to get a 1X2, but to my suprise I got a 2X1. I felt a little cheated at first. Started getting accused of being a bootlegger and all that, not to mention the disappointment in the DXing circles when the ops found out the QTH was Maryland and not Sikkim.
But as time has passed I have gotten used to the 2X1 and most people aren't confused any more. At least until the ITU decided the @ sign needed a character in morse code.
73
Frank
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by W8CRZ on May 18, 2004
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Great article! I kinda wondered who had my call too before I got it but have been unable to find it being issued. If anyone has heard or knows who had I would love to hear from you. I thought about doing my initials and first name(Rob) like so many but wanted something unique. When I was a kid I was kindof mischieveious and would try about anything so they used to call me crazy. Hence my call W8CRZ! Thanks for the enjoyable reading.
Rob W8CRZ
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by KB8DFK on May 18, 2004
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My dad and I both received our Novice licenses back in 1987, I upgraded to General a few months later when I was 15, and Dad was content being a Novice. His callsign was KB8DFJ one letter before mine, He passed away in 1999, and My call sign will never change, because it keeps my dad and I close even though he's gone. 73's & 88's Dad!
Bill (KB8DFK)
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by WA4NUN on May 19, 2004
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Interesting stuff. Held mine since I think 1962 and always wondered if there was any thought to the vanity considering the history of the prior holder. Perhaps the practice should mod slightly so that the previous holder history could be put our front.
Maybe there are a few call signs that deserve a sort of hall of fame of retiring a call sign, through a stringent process to put a few of them on the pedistal they deserve. Well it is a thought.
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by W6TH on May 19, 2004
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I can save you a lot of time and trouble with my call letters.
I was first issued the call letters W2OGH by the FCC on Washington street in New York in the year of 1938. I then moved to Orlando, Florida and had to change my call to W4NDL. I then moved to Las Vegas and then had changed my call to W7JSH. Then moving to California, I acquired the call of W6TH the call of an old friend of mine, his call W6TH and my friend moved and became W7SM.
I noticed many calls have been issued again and some previous owners of some calls were killed in combat during WW2. A few are now issued to clubs, that I once had many wonderful qso's with, but now gone forever.
Some will be sad fellows so be prepared as many fought for our country and never to return to ham radio.
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by K2CBM on May 19, 2004
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I know my call K2CBM is original. I have held this call since 1953. The FCC only issued K call signs for a short period during the 1950s.
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by PH1L on May 20, 2004
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One thing is for sure; I'm the first to operate under this call-sign.
Can you guess my first name...?
73,
PH1L.
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by K3UD on May 20, 2004
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The more I look into this the more interesting it gets.
From the time the FCC (FRC) began issuing calls with prefixes everything typically ran along straight lines.
First, calls with a single W prefix were issued. as they started to run out the FCC looked into the pool of unassigned calls and started to pull out some of the unused W calls but in the end they opened up the single K prefix for issue starting in the early 50s
I think the 2nd and 6th call areas were the first to the the K calls. Single W prifixes were issued in some call areas up to about 1957 and all the Ks were gone by 1964 with (I think) K3F series being the last ones as the FCC had never issued them in sequence.
The only exception the the single W and K prefix during the period when they were exclusively issued was the WN prefix which designated the novice license. Novices in some call areas also had WV issued to them. When the Ws ran out novices were issued KN calls. Anyone know why there were WV novice calls? I always heard that the WV were those which turned into WA upon upgrade in the 2nd and 6th districts.
There was a time when the N was dropped when the Novice upgraded and he or she had a regular 1X3 call. I dont think I ever heard of a KV novice prefix.
When all the aingle prefix calls were gone, The FCC started with WA calls in the late 50s, again in the 2nd and 6th districts. This led to WB and finally WD callsigns in the W series and eventually to the Single N prefix, the KA KB etc and finally the AA Extra only callblock.
Sometime in the 60s, the FCC began to issue a 1X3 call to those who had a 1X3 call but moved into a different call district. Anyone know how long that went on?
Also in the 60s Extras got the privilege of being assigned recycled,(lapsed) and unused 1X2 calls.
Under the vanity system it is very possible to obtain a 1X3 callsign that has not been used in 60-70 years or more. It is also still possible to get a 1X2 (K3U and some N series) that has never been assigned (there are about 4 K3U series still out there last time I looked)
Getting callsign user data for some of the 1X3s that are available requires a library of old callbooks. I understand that the QCWA has a service that does this (don't know about the fee) And W3HF has an extensive library of old callbooks I think he offers a similiar service.
73
George
K3UD
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by N4KH on May 20, 2004
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Nice article. I discovered recently that my old callsign that I gave up for my current vanity call had been reassigned as a vanity call to ham in another state. Just for fun I looked him up and contacted him via email. We began having QSOs on 80 CW and exchanged QSL cards. Turns out that we're both die-hard CW ops. Its nice hearing my old call coming back to me over the air, especially from someone who is a great operator and I've become friends with.
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by NE1RD on May 20, 2004
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I was issued my first call from the new Extra pool.
It was AB1BL, and quite a mouth-full (or finger-full?)
on phone or CW. I applied for my vanity call almost
immediately.
Even though I had only held AB1BL a short time,
when I saw the change had come through the FCC
database I was still a little sad. Those 5 little
characters had become a part of me even in those
few little weeks.
Now I've been NE1RD for about 18 months and I
can't imagine ever being anything else. I've said
my call so many times (tens of thousands?) that it
is now done by reflex and automatically. For those
of you who have held your call for years or even
decades, I can't imagine how you could trade in
your call sign. It would be like trading in your
best friend!
I'm NE1RD now and I'll be NE1RD forever. I'm
still a bit shocked that nobody had it before me.
Given I'm up all night with a soldering iron or sitting
in a darkened room trying to talk to people half-way
around the planet it seemed like somebody long
before me would have seen the "logic" in such a
moniker! Still, it is mine now ... and until the day I
go SK.
Nice article. Thanks for sharing.
-- Scott (NE1RD)
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by K5VPQ on May 20, 2004
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Nerds think Hams are the "real weirdos".. Ha Ha!
For me it is a bit of a story. I was issued KC5FHV. Now this was hard for folks to say, even with phonetic help. I even had a VE say it incorrectly as he was reading it from the page of my General class exam. I decided to change my callsign.
My Grandfather who got me into ham radio was WA5VPQ. I say 'was' because about a week after I had gotten my vanity of K5VPQ and called my Grand-dad to tell him, he informed me that he had just finished his extra upgrade and was now N5QE. Well it was a nice thought...
I kept K5VPQ for a while but, man I love to contest, and VPQ is not the easiest thing in the world in a contest, so I decided last month to change it. I wanted something in a 1x2 (not gonna happen in Texas ya'll sorry) so I started looking at 2x2's that would work well in contests. So now...
73 de KT5RL
Chris
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by KL7IPV on May 21, 2004
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. My first call was WN6TPB. When I upgraded from novice I expected to keep the sufix "TPB". The upgrade came back and I was now WB6ZKN !! Now that interested me. Why was my call sign changed on the upgrade. I found out that in my small city of Chino, there was also a W6TPB AND a WA6TPB. The FCC did not want a third suffix of the same in the city, so I was awarded the new one.
I also looked up my elmer, a W6 who lived in Chino. He was no longer licensed, due to his failing health I was told. A few years later I looked again and the callsign had been reissued. I wrote an email to the current holder and told him of the prior history of the callsign since my elmer had it from the original issue. Maybe it would be a good idea for anyone familiar with the original holder of a newly issued callsign to drop the current holder a note telling of the history as much as you can. Since my current callsign was issued to me and has no prior holder, I guess I am building history as I live on.
73
Frank
KL7IPV
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by K7VO on May 21, 2004
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My current call, K7VO, belonged to someone named Paul Miller a couple of years before I got it. I had just taken a job in the Spokane/Couer d'Alene area and I decided that I'd been an extra for a while and wanted a short call. K7VO was my second choice. I didn't think about the previous holder. When it was issued I was thrilled. When the job didn't work out and I moved back to North Carolina I decided I liked the call and that since it was bought and paid for I would keep it.
OK, so does anyone here know Paul Miller? Is he a silent key? I'd love to know about him.
Oh, and if anyone can figure out a way to get eQSL to give me access to what is now my callsign and has been for nearly a year I'd love to hear about that too. I've written to the webmaster address and gotten no response.
FWIW, I've had some pretty horrible calls in the past. I know some people will remember when I was KQ6SK. Who wants to be "silent key" when they are alive?
Thanks and 73,
Caity
K7VO
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by K3ASF on May 21, 2004
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Issued to me originally 06.03.57 as KN3ASF. I'm keeping this one.
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by WD4DUI on May 21, 2004
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The subject is very intersting indeed! I have had my call since I got my Novice ticket in 1976...April 1st. Got my Extra about 10 years ago and kept the call. Was thinking about switching to my father's call K4MXQ. He became an SK in 1998. He had just got back into Ham radio about 6 years before he died. I think his call was first issued to him sometime in the 50s. Anyway, I think I will keep WD4DUI...sure get some stange looks from non hams as it is on my license plate.
73
Rob
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by N7NRA on May 21, 2004
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Interesting topic.
I have held KA6HIF (first issuance, 1979, as a Tech) and N7GTN (first issuance, when I moved to AZ in 1984) and now, as a vanity call, N7NRA. My current call was previously held by Jerome Greenberg, who lived in Las Vegas, NV. I was looking for information about him a year or two ago and found that he was born in 1924, so I assume he went SK. If anyone knows anything about Jerome, please let me know. My info's good in the database.
I applied for the N7NRA call in late October, 2001, about a month and a half after the 911 attack, using the on-line FCC license system. I waited for a couple of months and didn't see any activity concerning the call request, so I called the local FCC office to find out how long the normal wait was for a vanity call change. The lady told me that when anthrax-laced mail started showing up in government offices, the FCC had all their snail-mail sent to a warehouse for storage until the post office could provide a decontamination procedure. She said that when all the backed up mail could be read, they would take call sign requests in order of arrival, mixing both the electronic and postal versions, as appropriate.
Finally, on the 7th of March, 2002, my new call showed up in the FCC database. I was thrilled! I had always wanted a call that reflected my first interest, firearms. I've been an NRA Life member longer than I've been a Ham, and I'm a Certified instructor in all disciplines except shotgun (the instructor's course hasn't been offered here when I could take it). Though I'm not a CW op, I'm pretty sure my call would sound quite distinctive if sent in Morse.
I do get comments on it. All the on-air comments have been positive: "Cool!", "Nice call!", etc. Since it's also on my license plate, most of the comments are questions: "What does that mean?" When I tell them it's my Ham Radio call sign they continue to be a bit puzzled, but when I explain that I asked for the call, and why, they catch on. It's good advertisement for both activities. One guy I met when I was patronizing a local firearms accessories store, looked at it and said, "I don't get it." He didn't have any idea what N7 had to do with the NRA.
That's OK. Most people do get it. And I get to explain it to the rest. It's good publicity.
Regards,
Stew
N7NRA
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by WA2JJH on May 22, 2004
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In 1978, I thought I would go for a nice short W2--However within days of the FCC vanity call incentive,
every W2-- gone! N2 did not strick my fancy.
I would love to know who's vintage call I have for almost 30 years! I guess an OLD call book is the way to go!
Most say my call is horrible for contesting..CW/SSB!
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by N7VY on May 22, 2004
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Very nice article. When I upgraded to Extra in 1993 I received the call AA7VY. When the vanity pool was opened up I found N7VY. The "Victor Yankee" worked out very well in contests so I wanted to keep it. After receiving the call of N7VY, I found out that the FCC never issued the call previously and I am the first owner of it. This is even better.
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by K4VT on May 23, 2004
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I have never had an origional call. 1st licensed in 1955 as WN3CPN and the W3CPN was when they ran the last pass thru the W3 secments prior to issue of the K3 calls. then when moving to Va in 1967 (in those days we had to move the calls also) I got W4UPJ which was another reisued call sign. then in 1975 I got K4VT yet another reissued call. It has never bothered me and I believe that a call is relative. what ever you have use it with pride.
73 and DX guys 73 Gary
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by W8LV on May 23, 2004
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I had KB8QPE for my first call....two problems with that... firstly, NO call sign should have a three letter anything that begins with a Q-- because the Q can (and did) easily get mixed up with a Q signal.
Secondly, the "E" got lost a lot in static crashes. "E" does not make a good character for the end of a call, in my opinion, for this reason. That's why I changed my call sign.
I wonder if there are certin combinations of letters that the FCC doesn't allow, like I am told my BMV does not allow?
Does anybody know?
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by K3GM on May 24, 2004
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My present call was assigned to my late good friend, Elmer, and former 3rd district incoming QSL manager Leon Lapkiewicz of Philadelphia. Leon was a genuine curmudgeon but had a heart of gold; always willing to help and lend advice, and give the shirt off his back if necessary. He had just renewed when he passed away suddenly, so his call remained unexpired for years with the FCC. I thought it might be a fitting tribute to keep this call of an extremely active ham and friend on the air, so I petitioned the FCC with an official death certificate and a request to vacate the call sign. When that was done, I immediately applied for the call and was granted, K3GM. I can only hope to be as active with this coveted call as he was, and think him of often as I use it.
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by KI6LO on May 24, 2004
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Well I got both of my calls the old fashion way - issued in sequence from the FCC. As far as I know, I was the original holder of old 5-land calls 'WN5UZU' and 'WB5UZU' and my current 6-land 'KI6LO'.
I can recall a time when you heard a call on the air, you could (with a high bit of certainty) GUESSTIMATE the stations' call area and even region/state where they were operating from without having to hear them state the obvious.
With the influx of randomly chosen 'cute' callsigns (aka VANITY callsigns) you are hard pressed to figure out where anyone is anymore unless you are actually hear them say it. With no requirement to hold a callsign for the call area your operating in, it kind of makes operating a bit like fishing now. Throw out your bait and see what strikes it. If you don't like it, throw it back, hihi.
73 to all,
Gene KI6LO
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by W7HJ on May 25, 2004
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Ah yes, callsigns ARE vain. Here's my story:
Back in August of '54, at age 13, I was issued what I believed to be, then, and even today, somewhat (I'll get into the "somewhat" later) the marvelous call of WN7WOX. I was given my Novice Exam by W7QMK, now SK, father of Dennis, W7SBT, both of whom lived a half block away and in whose shack I spent the better part of my evening hours whenever their light was on ! I was THRILLED to have been HONORED with an FCC License and I immediately began plans to get on the air.
My first rig was a homebrew 6AG7 crystal oscillator feeding an 807. My receiver was an S20R and later, a BC-348. The antenna was just a wire, all of about 20 feet long, tied from a vent pipe on the roof of the house to a clothesline post in the back yard ! The PI network in the 807 rig didn’t seem to mind. I used plain insulated wire for a feed-line, which passed through a ceramic-insulated knife switch (didn’t know the meaning of coax or TR switch) then through the window of the shack in a huge, hollow feed-through insulator that the local farmers used to get the HV from their fence controllers inside the barn outside to the barnyard, for their electric fences.
My first QSO was on 80 CW with Earl Casebolt, W7VIL, now SK, who lived clear across town ! Ol' Earl turned out to be an Elmer who greatly reduced the time it took for me to get my Conditional Class the following June. But my call, even without the "N" proved to be less than attractive by the time Earl showed me how to build a modulator for my 807 and get on AM Phone. At first I used a cathode modulator, then later Earl gave me a Modulation Transformer out of an ART-13 and loaned me a Bogen PA system that had a PAIR of 807s in its output. Man, did that rig sing !!! But even with “super audio,” the phonetics were still a massive problem for “WOX.” Whiskey Oscar Xray just didn’t cut it. I even tried Washington Oregon Ray, then even Wobbly Ol’ Xylophone…..
nothing seemed to propagate the callsign, so I resigned to working mostly CW, even though Leo Meyerson’s son had been issued W0WOX and appeared to be content with his call…I just couldn’t quite cope.
The hole for the ugly feed-through insulator is still in that window at my sister’s place, in my former family home which she now manages since both my parents are now SK. I don’t have any of the original gear, but leave a Swan 500CX there to operate when I visit Sis a couple of times a year. The long-wire is gone now, replaced by an 18AVT in ‘71, but the steel pipe clothesline post that supported the lower end of the LW is still there !
Pop was WA7OTI. No phonetic problems there. One of the schools in nearby Klamath Falls was Oregon Technical Institute. Mom tolerated both of us, but Pop didn’t get his license until after he retired from teaching in ’68, so she got a ten-year break from being a “ham mom” and XYL from when I joined the Navy in ‘58 until Pop began his ham career. She was very supportive, however, and always knew to knock on the shack wall (shared with the kitchen) when meals were going on the table, just long enough for me or Pop to finish whatever we were doing at mealtime. I was in QSO with Pop while I was on Kure Island in '70 and he had to QRT for supper...I knew exactly the scenario !
While I was in the Navy there were several Military Club Stations at various QTHs in which I was able to “shroud” my callsign, “WOX” behind…..so after several years as Chief Op at KA2KS (Japan), W4UJS (Arlington, VA), and one of many of the operators at KH6NR (Oahu), I found out about “Additional Station Licenses” and became KH6HGP. Now you can’t get much better than “Home Grown Pineapple,” especially since there was actually one GROWING at the base of my tower at Iroquois Pt Navy Housing !!!
Ol’ W7WOX had bit the dust, well not really, since it was STILL my Primary Station License, but at least I didn’t have to USE it again ! Until, of course, HGP expired. But by the end of ’80 when it did expire, I had already been issued N7HJ and was operating from I8 land, so mox-nix !
I thought.
Then sometime in the late ‘90s I was doing email with Dave Adams, K4DA, and he suggested I upgrade my call to a W7. (Yes, W7WOX was indeed, un-issued !!) But I resisted the urge (sure, I WAS an ORIGINAL W7, so I DO have SOMEWHAT of a callsign privilege, right ?), especially since I had been smiled upon by the FCC in ’77 by being issued a call with my initials as suffix !) Of course, W7HJ was not available (ol’ Frank Wilson was its original owner) and none of the other suffixes were particularly appealing to me…except a few ! I asked for 25, some from the W4 call area, since I was living in Virginia at the time.
Somewhere in the last 2/3rd of the stack was W7LO. Well, that soon became mine and I was happy. W7 Local Oscillator ! Wow, whatta call !
But hold on, the younger hams (those who grew up on Nintendo (NOT Atari or Pac-Man) didn’t quite understand just what “local oscillator” really meant ! Ouch ! Lima Oscar didn’t cut it either. Nor did “Lima Ontario” nor “Lovely Ocean”, nor W7-ello !
So near the end of my former call’s two-year recall window, I exchanged W7LO for N7HJ. Now I really had a mess. My “new” call showed up as a “Vanity Call,” the same as W7LO. My original N7HJ from 1977 had HIGHER status !
I threw in the callsign towel and ordered 1000 color QSL cards for N7HJ. I was content.
I thought.
Then a miracle happened. Dave sent me another email saying that Frank didn’t renew !
WHAAAAT !!!! Hey, Dave, you know what that MEANS ???
And that is the story, for what it’s worth. And you thought YOU had struggled with yours !
73,
Harley, W7 Honest John (did you say OJ, OM ???? !!!!)
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by KA3B on May 26, 2004
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I've had my current call since December, 2000 and received a QSL card dating back to the 90's for call's former holder, now K3HS. I was more than amazed at the info I found when searching for the former KA3B ticket holder - am probably on the Homeland Security watch list due to some of it's Arabic listings!
Have fun witht the searches!
Bob Hartman KA3B
ex KN3YVT (1963 - 64) ex KA3PDR (1987) ex K3YVT
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by K9WLF on May 26, 2004
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I do not know who, if anyone, had my callsign before me, but I chose my vanity call because of an interest I have. I was first licensed as KG4BOM, and after I got my General, I chose K9WLF because of my love of Canus Lupis, the grey wolf. Actually, I love wolves in general, but the grey and I have a lot in common as to hair color <grin>. Here in south Florida, I am known as the 'wolf on the air' and there are those who don't even know or remember my name, but call me the wolf! If you get to work me HF mobile and send me a QSL card, I guarantee a one of a kind QSL card that I make myself will come your way.
73 and good DX, Tom, K9WLF/4 HF Mobile-The Wolf on the Air!!
Remember, It is not the class of license the Amateur holds, but the class of the Amateur that holds the license.
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by KB7LYM on May 31, 2004
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I like the callsign that was assigned to me when I first passed the Novice test. I remembered waiting for my call letters. Then there it came in the mail. KB7LYM
or Kilo Bravo 7 Lima Yankee Mike. I liked the sound. It became part of me like my name. So I keep mine. Anybody want to change to KK7KKK OR K7GAY go right ahead. And on top if it all when you change and am on the air, I can see it now... Nobody knows you.
Have a good day ya all
Frank KB7LYM
73
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by WB2NVY on June 11, 2004
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WN2GJH was my novice call in 1963, then in '64 when I got my general I became WB2NVY, which kinda fit cuz I liked Navy stuff. Moved to MD in '71 and got WA3RYS, and in 73 moved back to NY and got my WB2NVY back and kept it for about 30 yrs. It was my identity. Then my license lapsed and when I reapplied I was given N2IOA (ugh). I then got my Extra and shortly after went thru the vanity process to get my old WB2NVY back. I don't mind the long call even tho I op mainly CW. I'm in no hurry to send my call. Seems sad you have to go thru the "vanity" process to get your own call back.
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