Invite Your Congressman or Congresswoman to Field Day!
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Invite Your Congressman or Congresswoman to Field Day!
While you're composing the letter, thank them for their support of our legislation (if they
supported it). There's a sample letter in the "Ideas" section of this site:
n3ij.home.comcast.net.
If your representative hasn't co-sponsored the ham radio bills yet, the site has suggestions
for how to seek their support. The site is a work in process, so reports on what works and what
doesn't are needed.
Tom Coates, N3IJ -- "Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler." --A.
Einstein
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by NL7GB on June 19, 2004
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Invite any non-ham who wants to get out and is curious about the activity. I plan to if my doggone license is posted in time. Sigh.
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by W3JJH on June 19, 2004
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We have invited Rep. Bartlett, who is one of the cosponsors of the Amateur Radio Spectrum Protection Act, Gov. Erlich and several other elected and appointed officials to the CCARC Field Day.
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by W3RAZ on June 19, 2004
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A little late for this. Field day invites should have gone out about 6 months ago. Congressmen need more then 2 weeks to change their schedule. It's a good idea though.
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by N6AYJ on June 19, 2004
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I think you are somewhat deluded if you think non-hams would find field day interesting. Even as a ham who's been licensed for 44 years, I find it very boring and refuse to participate in it any longer. Hams have a disconcerting habit of thinking the entire world revolves around ham radio, and that other people will find it as interesting as we seem to feel it is. It isn't, and we need to wake up and smell the coffee.
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by KZ1X on June 19, 2004
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We had both our US Congressman and out State Sentator come out last year. Lots of good photo ops! The Congressman said he "felt more at ease" knowing there were local communications experts in these troubles times, and the Senator said she "had no idea such impressive antennas and equipment could be marshalled so quickly by civilians."
As far as the comment about "the world revolving around ham radio" and "Field Day being boring" all I can say is that not everyone outside the hobby thinks we are bunch of yahoos -- and I have definitive proof.
You know, the Signal Corps still teaches Morse code at Ft. Huachuca AZ, and they listen to W1AW for practice! You can go there yourself and see the fixed-position log-periodic pointed at Newington CT.
If you find Field Day boring and unworthy of your time, well, you may be clinically depressed, and/or have Seasonal Affective Disorder, a related condition. Hams often have high IQs and there is a direct medical correlation between "smart brains" and the tendency for same to sometimes go a bit chemically haywire. I have personal experience with both conditions, and there are many fine medications to correct the problem. You don't have to suffer with these conditions ... see a doctor.
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by N6AYJ on June 19, 2004
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Thank you, KZ1X, for making my point so articulately. I am sorry that you are so defensive and in such denial about field day being boring. Unfortunately, no medications are going to help your condition because before you can deal with your problem, you have to be willing to admit you have a problem, and clearly you are too insecure to admit it. You are indeed a prime example of why the general public thinks we are a bunch of kooks.
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by N4ZOU on June 19, 2004
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Last year at Field day the local ham club President talked me into allowing him to use a large network tuner I built several years ago. He was then going to rip me off as I had become disabled. It took me 6 months to get it back and then only after I was about to list him as a scammer on all the ham radio sites. Now I will not get anywhere near a ham club operation or "loan" any equipment to them. I would guess a Congressman or Congresswoman would feal right at home with a group like that.
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by NN6EE on June 19, 2004
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Nah!!! It would be a waste of time!!!
Our local US Congressman (George Miller) is too busy thinking up more "Pork-Barrel" projects to spend our money on, and one of our US Senators (Barbara Boxer) would feel it beneath her dignity!!!
Though maybe if we offered Caviar, scones, a aged cheese and some expensive Wines and offered them a "Show-up" gratuity they'd change their minds!!!
Jim/nn6ee
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by K6BBC on June 19, 2004
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Oh God, please no. They would probably vote to cancel the service if they heard all that chaos.
K6BBC
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by K6BBC on June 19, 2004
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To KZ1X and N6AYJ (AKA Laurel and Hardy) – thank you for those post. I just about fell over laughing. Brilliant! Are you two going on the road together?
K6BBC
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by NN6EE on June 19, 2004
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You're probably right Dave, though I'm sure they'd be IMPRESSED by the ARRL's "RADIO-COP" system aka "OOs"!!!
Zeig Heil!!!
Jim/ee
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mighty odd folks out there, must be W6-itis
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by KZ1X on June 19, 2004
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I'm glad Tony, Jim, and Bill live in California.
I hope they stay there, and keep confirming what much of the rest of the country thinks of people from the Land of Fruits and Nuts. The fact that y'all elected Boxer and Feinstein (female versions of Lenin and Stalin) to the Senate says a lot by itself.
Meantime, see all y'all non-W6 nutties on the air next weekend! I'll be having a GREAT time!
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by KE4MOB on June 19, 2004
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Must be the smog.
I've never had a boring Field Day. They have always been carefully planned...right up until 10:00 on Saturday when it all goes to purgatory in a pumpkin. Then it gets real interesting.
As for "officials" we've never really recruited to have them come out...yet year after year, we get some police, fire, rescue, or board of supervisors people out there looking over our shoulders.
Are they really interested in ham radio? For the majority of them, probably not...but it is easy PR for everyone involved. Ham radio gets a nice writeup in the paper with a photo of some official looking over a ham's shoulder that lends credibility to ham radio. The official on the other hand gets a nice writeup in the paper with a photo of him/herself looking over a ham's shoulder that sends out the message to the public of "I'm being proactive about disaster planning" or "I'm in touch with my constituents concerns".
Which is all fine and well, but I'd rather just play on the radios.
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by N6AYJ on June 19, 2004
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Dave, KZ1X: the indicators of a psychologically sick, insecure "true believer"/dogmatist is that the person cannot deal with the merits of an argument, but must instead seek to discredit, with ad hominem attacks, the person advancing the argument. One of the most common techniques of such a sick mind is to attempt to fit people into preconceived stereotypes, without knowing anything about them. In short, you're abundantly displaying your painful insecurity about dealing with opinions you don't agree with. "True believer"/dogmatists like you think they are confident in their insecure beliefs, but their behavior transparently betrays to the rest of the world their essential insecurity about their opinions. You have no idea whether I fit into your "California fruit-and-nuts" stereotype (I don't), but you advance it anyway, without even realizing how transparent your behavior is. I really feel sorry for you. I hope someday you will gain enough emotional security to be able to benefit from psychotherapy.
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N6AYJ just pwn3d joo arse
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by KZ1X on June 19, 2004
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Naw, he didn't. He just has a very different view on life than I do. My 40 employees, 2 kids, and wife and I like my optimistic view better.
The ham club I founded (and for which I was named Sertoma "Man of the Year") just celebrated its 12th anniversary, and we're having a lot of fun and still contributing to the public welfare. We have, literally, a wall-full of commendations at the local 911 Center where we are headquartered. Our repeaters, on 1/3 of the comms platform on the local public TV tower have a rent-free three NEMA4 cabinets at 1780 feet above sea level. The State told us to put them there!
Know about N6AYJ? Not much; he's right, I don't. Just a little about me in comparison, though: I'm not divorced, I'm not old, I'm definitely NOT from San Francisco although I've been there a hundred times, I kept the call sign the FCC sent me instead of being a malcontent, I don't have my own website to explain to the world why I am important, and I don't drive old souped-up Chryslers because nostalgia belongs to the past ... and I'm looking forward.
Matter of fact: I'm looking forward to seeing my local Congressman -again- along with the County Commissioner, both of whom I have been told will be joining us once again this year at Field Day. You know, that boring, unimportant to the general public event that we self-aggrandizing hams do every year.
I will also be looking forward to telling the local Red Cross Chapter Director that our comms station is no longer needed to service their emergency shelters because ham radio is meaningless, right after my psychiatrist (yes, I have one; everybody should) and I get done laughing at the printout of this thread I just made.
Different strokes. BTW: look for me on 20 CW QRP.
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by N6AJR on June 19, 2004
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Jim NN6EE tends to be a bit negative on almost any subject, so Perhaps we should ask and see if they will come before we write off our political types off as his personal whipping persons. N6AJR proud to be a cllifornian, the foward looking state. lots of technical advancements and great folks ( tiger wooods- stanford, Ronald Ray-guns, arnold whats his name and his wife Maria, bill cosby, silicon valley, hollywood, the great variety of foods produced, World class wines, even This Old House came out here. we must be doing something right!!!) come from this place..tom N6AJR
(we didn't invent the Fan Dipole, but we sure use them.)
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fan dipoles, and http://www.ki6ky.com/ayj.htm
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by KZ1X on June 19, 2004
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Tom, how do you KNOW the fan dipole wasn't a California invention? LOTS of GREAT antennas (Force 12, M2, etc.) come from California!
And, you're right: while your two "Senators" probably will have something else to do on FD weekend, your local rep (well, unless you are from Bakersfield) might come if he/she was invited. I know Zoe Lofgren; she might show up, and Anna Eshoo and Mike Honda are nice, too. Even Pete Stark! I'm very involved in political issues, so even though I'm from the other side of the US, I know these folks and can definitely say they might come by if someone told them in advance.
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by N6AYJ on June 19, 2004
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Dave, you've got to be kidding: Sertoma!? I know all about that organization, which is supposedly devoted to "SERvice TO MAnkind". (Any organization that feels it necessary to adopt a self-serving title like that is automatically suspect, in my opinion.) It's where all the cheap, conniving local businessmen go to have lunch and cackle together, like hens in a henhouse, in a desperate and deluded attempt to convince themselves that they are doing something to help society, at the same time they're paying their employees the minimum wage and no benefits. Now I'm really getting the picture about you. What a hypocrite.
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mental lapse?
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by KZ1X on June 20, 2004
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"Dave, you've got to be kidding: Sertoma!? I know all about that organization, which is supposedly devoted to "SERvice TO MAnkind". (Any organization that feels it necessary to adopt a self-serving title like that is automatically suspect, in my opinion.) It's where all the cheap, conniving local businessmen go to have lunch and cackle together, like hens in a henhouse, in a desperate and deluded attempt to convince themselves that they are doing something to help society, at the same time they're paying their employees the minimum wage and no benefits. Now I'm really getting the picture about you. What a hypocrite. "
Ummm... I think you're losing it, even worse than in the nutcase letter you sent to Hollingsworth.
1. I'm Steve. Not Dave. I don't know who Dave is.
2. I'm not a Sertoma member, nor have I ever been to a meeting. Until they gave me the award, I never heard of them. THEY found ME. Around this part of the country, Sertoma helps retarded adults find work and gives them rides to and from. Sounds fairly gallant to me, and not unworthy of praise. I'll decide when to be cynical; you don't get to make that decision for me, sorry. Talk it over instead with your ex-wife, to whom you're very committed, or so you wrote a few years ago.
3. I'm not a lawyer; I've heard a lot of bad things about lawyers. You are helping me believe them.
4. I don't have a single employee who earns less than $48,000 annually. Most make much more.
5. I can see why Fred kicked you off QRZ.
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by WR8D on June 20, 2004
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What a waste of time. Here locally you'd meet every outlaw chickenbander in 3 counties and two states. They bring their kenwood 440's with the chickenband freq's in the memory channels and run their "pill" boxes. Oh i forgot to add most are extra class license holders now too. Just glorified cbers dumber than rocks. What a waste. I'd hate to think anyone from the public that might stop in would think what they see and hear represents the ham community. Alas life goes on and the dumb get dumber.
John WR8D
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by N6AYJ on June 20, 2004
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Sorry I got your name wrong, Steve, but at least I got the "A.H." part right.
So you got an award from a bunch of hypocrites. I guess that makes you one, too. They must think you're an even bigger hypocrite than they are, if they gave you such an award.
Let's see, 40 employees who each earn at least $48.5K annually: that means your payroll is at least $2M annually, and assuming your payroll runs about 50% of revenues, your company's annual revenue must be in the range of $4M - $5M. Steve, you'd better tell your psychiatrist at your next appointment that you've been telling tall tales on the ham radio message boards.
Yeah, wasn't that a great letter to Riley Hollywood? After he received it, he ran away with his tail between his legs, like the mangy dog that he is. I tore him a new one, so now he can flatulate in stereo (sorry to mix metaphors). And when I get done with you, you and your friend Riley will be able to flatulate a quadraphonic duet! Ever since I wrote Riley that letter, he has quit trying to victimize amateurs with his misbegotten concept of "good amateur practice". So don't say I've never done anything to benefit the amateur community!
Well, if an A.H. like you dislikes attorneys, it means we must be doing something right.
Steve, you really are a sick SOB, and it doesn't sound like your psychiatrist is helping you. Maybe you should change shrinks?
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time to go ...
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by KZ1X on June 20, 2004
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Bill
I know you're enjoying this banter, but I'm too busy for any more until late next week.
If you need to taunt somebody for enjoying ham radio and life in general, you will need to find somebody else for a while.
I'm actually quite sorry about your failed marriage, your failure to get that coveted Extra, your IRS audit, and the jaded, paranoid view of the world you seem to have developed, perhaps as a result. I have not had such traumatic experiences and I'm grateful for my good fortune.
If this is all an act, you're very good at it (lawyers often are); if it's the real you ... well, like I said, I'm sorry, and I'll try my best to keep from becoming so bitter a person when I get to be your age.
73
Steve KZ1X/4
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by KX8N on June 20, 2004
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Lack of moderation on eHam is reason enough not to subscribe.
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by KB7LYM on June 20, 2004
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It would NOT WORK ! The way Congress works is so slow that if I invited them today, I will be long gone from the Scene.Congress calles that JOB SECURITY.
To invite them is making WAVES and that should be avoided at all cost.
Remember Folks...Never bet on a dead Horse
73
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by AC0X on June 20, 2004
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Dear God in Heaven, what a thread. And especially one that's about getting your congressperson more aware of ham radio. People having online bar fights, and people actually saying it's not good to get your congressperson involved with things and "make waves".
To any members of Congress reading this thread:
We use Eham as a way to keep our whackos off the air. We keep them busy with Eham
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by N6AYJ on June 20, 2004
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Spare me the sympathy, Steve. All I need to put myself in a good mood is to remember that I'm not a loser like you.
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by NG1I on June 20, 2004
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You've got to be kidding, right?
Frank
NG1I
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by NG1I on June 20, 2004
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....and the more I read of this thread, I'm glad to be the futherest possible distance east of CA!
Frank
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by NL7GB on June 20, 2004
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N3IJ: despite the flame war that developed in this message thread, you posted a great suggestion. Thank you for your efforts towards Ham-friendly legislation.
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by N6AYJ on June 20, 2004
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Look, you guys just need to accept the following facts:
1. Ham radio is extremely boring to 99.999% of the public.
2. Field day is extremely boring to 99.999% of the public.
3. Nobody really believes all our self-serving crapola about performing public service. The biggest public service most of us could perform would be to push ourselves away from the dinner table, take a bath once a week, wear suspenders so we don't display our butt cracks quite so prominently, wear a larger size T-shirt so our fat guts don't make the shirt ride up above our navels, change shirts after we drip mustard on them from all the hot dogs we are constantly eating and quit pretending to be god's gift to mankind.
4. When any member of the public feigns interest in ham radio, remember: they are just doing it to humor us because they think we are a bunch of fat loser kooks (see reasons above) and figure that we may well begin acting unpredictably unless they pretend to be interested.
Go to any hamfest, take a look at your fellow hams, and then tell me with a straight face that you think the public should take our hobby seriously.
I am really sorry to have to break this news to you, but apparently I am one of the few posters on this thread who's not living in a ham radio dream world. But do me a favor and don't make me the scapegoat just because I tried to clue you into reality. I'm wise to that game.
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by AC0X on June 20, 2004
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K, Bill... here's what I don't get...
If ham radio is useless and boring to 99.999% of the population, and I'm assuming here you're not part of the .001%; why do you post with your callsign? If you can't stand hams as people, if you think being a ham is such a waste, and if you think most people's opinion of ham's is so terrible, why attach yourself to such a vulgar moniker? Why not just post as "Bill" or "I Hate Hams", or something like that?
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by N2JHZ on June 20, 2004
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"1. Ham radio is extremely boring to 99.999% of the public.
2. Field day is extremely boring to 99.999% of the public."
With a world population of 6,377,641,642 people [source: U.S. Census Bureau], that leaves .0001% of the world's population not classified as extremely bored by ham radio and field day, or .000001 * 6,377,641,642 = 6377 people. On the other hand, the ARRL estimates the number of field day participants in 2003 was approximately 35,000, which is five times as many people who are extremely bored by it. One could exclude the number of field day participants from the world's population without affecting the results, to within a decimal place of rounding error, which is an order of magnitude of precision greater than was used to make the estimate.
Now, if by the public one means only the population of the United States, then the figures look even worse. Assuming a figure of 290 million for the U.S. population in 2003, the .0001% (one-hundredth of one-ten-thousanth or one millionth) portion of the U.S. population not extremely bored by field day amounts to a mere 290 people. On the hypothesis that hams are not extremely bored by ham radio, we could exclude the population of U.S. hams from this estimate.
It would seem from these figures, the population is divided between hams, and the remainder of the population, which finds itself extremely bored by ham radio. We may conclude that any further effort to recruit more hams will result in the addition of at most 290 people. Let us congratulate ourselves on having so efficiently recruited as many amateurs into our hobby as can be reasonably expected!
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by K1CJS on June 20, 2004
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I wonder what ever happened to just getting out in the field and setting up/using the radios. Nowadays its extra points if you set up public relations booths, extra points if you can get local officials to your site, extra points if your organization runs a station from a recognized local emergency command center, etc., etc., etc.
With all the planning and inviting and extra chores that could be done, field day has turned into a working event instead of being pleasureable event as it used to be.
It all makes me wonder what the next extra credit or multiplier will turn out to be. Maybe doing moonbounce from a handy talkie in a moving trailer going down an interstate at 9:45 PM on Saturday night in a rainstorm? I think thats the only thing that hasn't been covered yet! ;-)
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by AG4HY on June 21, 2004
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I invited the Playboy Bunnies and 20 cases of beer.
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by KF4VGX on June 21, 2004
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Where is this field day event at ? ( GRIN )
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by NL7GB on June 21, 2004
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So there you have it: with free beer and the Playboy bunnies, 49.999% of the population will not be bored by Field Day!
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by W6PMR3 on June 21, 2004
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I think it's a GREAT idea to invite local polititians to field day. The fact that some Hams don't think it is worthwhile is sad and a reflection of their negitive outlook on the hobby.
It cannot be anything but positive to have lawmakers from the local community see how Hams can get together to set up and run field communications. It might even help to change their minds in regards to local antenna restrictions, positivly of course.
They need to be notified well in advance and their staff/office kept informed. And no, not all those invited will come Jim, but some might and when told there will be voters there,...who knows.
And hey, wait a minute !!!! I am always looking to the future and I LOVE my old Chryslers !! I would rather be driving a super clean, restored 1971 Cuda Hemi or 1969 Roadrunner than ANY new, politically correct econo-box import!!
(purple with black bucket interior of course)
Paul, W6PMR.
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by EHAM_GUEST_001 on June 21, 2004
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Sorry...our small club cannot afford the minimum $3000 bribe plus travel accommodations and unfortunately there aren't enough minorities in our club for a good photo opp. They really don't have to work too hard to get the senior citizen vote, just promise them free meds and to protect them from the evil republicans that want to take away their social security and they'll keep voting for you. Otherwise they'd be paying us to show up as the mean average age in our club is 57 out of 96 members aged 37 - 78. More demanding entitlement seeking OT's than you can shake a stick at.
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by KD5ING on June 21, 2004
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Tom,
Thanks for the great idea and spreading the word about Amateur Radio and Field Day in particular. I encourage all of us to make efforts to get our government officials and served agencies to Field Day.
With a little bit of planning you can make the Field Day visit of a public official informative and entertaining. For additional tips check out this site - http://www.remote.arrl.org/pio/contact/2004/0504.html#PR
I appreciate your effort and your contribution to the hobby.
Tim Lewallen, KD5ING
Public Information Officer
Nacogdoches Amateur Radio Club
Winner of the 2003 Philip McGan Memorial Silver Antenna Award
ARRL PR Committee
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by KC2FTN on June 21, 2004
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<snip> "I invited the Playboy Bunnies and 20 cases
of beer."
Hell...I'm going to AG4HY's party!
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by WB9UDJ on June 21, 2004
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You mean we here in the forgotten part of Illinois (South Eastern) (not the southeast part of Chicago, but the real southern IL) actually have congressmen or women representing us? We are almost 300 miles south of that town but let something newsworthy happen way down here and we become a suburb of that boil on the state. The Governor of IL has only been in the actual state capitol in Springfield for 20 some days since he took office around two years ago. We have asked the local dog catcher to grace us with a visit at field day.
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by N6AYJ on June 21, 2004
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"The fact that some Hams don't think it is worthwhile is sad and a reflection of their negitive (sic) outlook on the hobby."
Paul, who WOULDN'T be disillusioned with ham radio after seeing the ARRL pull Riley Hollywood's strings like the puppet that he is, after observing him creating new "rules" out of whole cloth under the guise of "good amateur practice" and after the way he has completely distorted the correct meaning of 97.205(e) so as to allow repeater owners to kick anybody they don't like off the repeater? Riley Hollywood has been the worst influence on ham radio in years.
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by KJJ4321 on June 21, 2004
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I was going to do this but my congressman is republican & I figured he wouldn't show up unless I promised a sizable donation.
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by K0EWS on June 21, 2004
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<<<I invited the Playboy Bunnies and 20 cases of beer.>>>
I prefer the Man Show Juggies and a case of Scotch...;)
Seriously, we have only had a congresswoman on the job for 3 weeks since our old one had to resign and go to jail, but there is always next year. However, the nice Governor here in South Dakota did proclaim this as Amateur Radio Week, so that's something.
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by K1CJS on June 21, 2004
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An earlier poster said:
".....after the way he has completely distorted the correct meaning of 97.205(e) so as to allow repeater owners to kick anybody they don't like off the repeater?"
If you stop to think about it, the repeater owner/trustee should have the right to limit the use of their machine to people who use it according to the rules set down by the owner/trustee and amateur regulations. After all, the machine is on the air ON THEIR LICENSE, and they are ultimately responsible for the misuse of it. If the owner stops someone from using their machine, it is probably because of misuse by that person.
Even though it is not their frequency, it IS their machine and their license, especially considering the tightening of the regs.
Think about it......
BTW, sorry I went off topic.
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by KF4VGX on June 22, 2004
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Your correct !
Off topic ? a bit :) . But never the less correct,
I can see where your concerns are.
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by VX5R on June 22, 2004
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Amen.. And find a toothbrush too
"The biggest public service most of us could perform would be to push ourselves away from the dinner table, take a bath once a week, wear suspenders so we don't display our butt cracks quite so prominently, wear a larger size T-shirt so our fat guts don't make the shirt ride up above our navels, change shirts after we drip mustard on them from all the hot dogs we are constantly eating"
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by K3UD on June 22, 2004
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You guys are going about this in the wrong way.
Turn Field Day into a political fund raiser for the congressman. Have reps from the Yaecomwood, Ten Tec, MFJ and Alinco there ready with lots of soft money. Playboy centerfold girls and beer will certainly help. Politicians are very used to outside BBQ fundraisers. This approach is almost guaranteed to get the politicians on your side.
73
George
K3UD
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by KE4MOB on June 22, 2004
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Sec 97.205(e): "Ancillary functions of a repeater that are available to users on the input channel are not considered remotely controlled functions of the station. Limiting the use of a repeater to only certain user stations is permissible."
I'm curious. What's your interpretation?
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Invite Your Congressman or Congresswoman to Field
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by K4IQT on June 22, 2004
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Not sure I oughtta do this - IMO my congressman is a sucker-upper twerp who would probably use the opportunity to politic in the press for BPL, since his party leaders support it.
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by WB4QNG on June 22, 2004
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I think it is a good idea but a little late this year.You might get some locals out this year but if you haven't ask by now with 4 days left I think it would be hard to get them. I would think the fire departments, police departments would be more interested to see if they could use it in their operations. I think the general public would find the setups to be very interesting. I think if you got them out and explained the operation and answer any questions it is good. I am sorry but I would have to agree unless they were interested in radio before the came out listening to the stations would get boring in a hurry. Lets face it guys how many times can a normal person hear CQ field day cq field day cq field day. then W1xxx 3a West Texas
W2xxx 1e KY. It is just like my family after three or four contacts they are in the next room watching TV. While I think it is great and understand what it is all about after 18 hours or so I am on the air durring field day I hear CQ field day for the next week. Have fun
Terry
WB4QNG
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by WB4QNG on June 22, 2004
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I think it is a good idea but a little late this year.You might get some locals out this year but if you haven't ask by now with 4 days left I think it would be hard to get them. I would think the fire departments, police departments would be more interested to see if they could use it in their operations. I think the general public would find the setups to be very interesting. I think if you got them out and explained the operation and answer any questions it is good. I am sorry but I would have to agree unless they were interested in radio before the came out listening to the stations would get boring in a hurry. Lets face it guys how many times can a normal person hear CQ field day cq field day cq field day. then W1xxx 3a West Texas
W2xxx 1e KY. It is just like my family after three or four contacts they are in the next room watching TV. While I think it is great and understand what it is all about after 18 hours or so I am on the air durring field day I hear CQ field day for the next week. Have fun
Terry
WB4QNG
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by OMNIPRESSIVE on June 23, 2004
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by KJJ4321 on June 21, 2004
"I was going to do this but my congressman is republican & I figured he wouldn't show up unless I promised a sizable donation."
Well my congressman is a Democrat & I figured that he wouldn't show up unless he could find a way to tax the entire contest.
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by AG4HY on June 23, 2004
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omnipressive;
not only to figure out a way to tax the whole thing, but firure out a way to supress (aka as TAKE) your constitutional rights, as the fienstines, boxers, kennedies, kerrys, waxmans. liebermans.etc. etc.have been doing all the time
liberal=commarad
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by K8LQ on June 23, 2004
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ARRL TO HAM RADIO FIELD DAY TEAM LEADERS:
Please remember this 4 prong approach if you plan on having members of Congress and Senatorial Officials to YOUR Field Day.
Please inform your participants 24 hours in advance that they should:
1. Take a shower and use deodorant
2. Wear clean clothes
3. Brush their teeth
4. Cover their butt cracks
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Kerry Pushes Broadband
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by KG4YJR on June 24, 2004
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See article at:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=584&e=2&u=/nm/20040624/pl_nm/campaign_kerry_dc
>>>"If Bangalore in India can be completely wired, then so should all of America." <<<
>>>His proposal would provide a 10 percent tax credit for investments in broadband technology in rural and inner city areas, with investments in the next generation of high-speed broadband anywhere in the country eligible for a 20 percent tax credit.<<<
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Invite A CONGRESSIONAL STAFFER To Field Day!!
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by CALLSIGNPENDING on July 3, 2004
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I know some of you have expressed skepticism about enticing your U.S. Representative and/or your 2 U.S. Senators to a Field Day.
Well, first off, I wouldn't be so pessimistic!! You might have to give the legislator 2 or 3 months of advance notice (or more), and you might find that the legislator cancels on you at the last minute, but I suspect a number of Congressional legislators COULD be enticed to come -- PARTICULARLY if: (A) you keep asking them to EVERY Field Day until they say "Yes"; and (B) you point out the national security/emergency communications value of your work.
In The Meantime, however, here's a "fallback" that MIGHT work wonders:
Invite your Congressional legislators, but add that MEMBERS OF THEIR STAFF ARE ALSO WELCOME TO COME, with or without their bosses. Now you might attract a staffer from a legislator's LOCAL office, rather than his or her Washington office, but never you mind!!
IF a staffer comes, and IF he or she is impressed, this alone might influence his or her boss to support at least some of the pro-ham legislation on your "wish list". And your chance of attracting the actual legislator to a FUTURE Field Day will rise.
I know whereof I speak. I was a Congressional staffer for 3 years and a Washington lawyer for 15 more.
Congressional staffers are GENERALLY overworked, underpaid and under-exposed (because their bosses are soaking up ALL the limelight). Let THEM be the stars of your Field Day if their bosses won't come!! In general, they will spend A LOT MORE TIME listening to the details of your concerns than their bosses will.
73,
Don Schellhardt
pioneerpath@earthlink.net
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