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VHF Fun

Steve Katz (WB2WIK) on June 29, 2004
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VHF FUN

...invest in the antennas, not the gear, and you'll double your fun for less $$

Steve Katz, WB2WIK/6

Background

I've been operating the VHF bands since the mid-1960's. I was first “hooked” by using a Gonset Communicator-II on two meter AM, and have been hooked ever since.

In the early days, I was so gung-ho about VHF that I thought it would be very nice to just have a Technician class license and stay with that forever, since I was making 30-40-50 contacts a day on two meter AM, and then later six meter AM, running low power and either very old or very homebrewed equipment. I was 13 years old, and there was no end to the number of local hams active on VHF in the New York metropolitan area where I lived.

Early into my ham career I found it frustrating that the two meter band was evidently capable of all sorts of DX that I couldn't hear or work. I had a neighbor, Neal, W2KME, who lived about two miles from me in a location no better than my own, and he sat there rag chewing with hams 300 miles away on two meter AM (!), and most of the time I thought he was talking to himself, since I couldn't hear who he was working. I chatted him up on the air, told him I was a neighbor and a kid and I'd love to see his station (to see for myself what he was up to). He invited me over, and I rode my bike to get there.

Bike ride

Two blocks from Neal's house I saw his “secret.” It was a 45 foot tall tower, with a 15 element Telrex two meter beam up another fifteen feet atop it. That beam cast a giant shadow, since it was 28 feet long. Looking more closely, I could also see it was connected to a fat water hose. Maybe he water cooled the beam because it got so hot? Remember, I was 13 or 14 years old, here...

Neal invited me inside to see his station, which, other than a National HRO-60 receiver, was entirely homebrewed. Oh, the HRO-60 and a D-104 microphone. Other than those, his entire station was homebrewed. And I mean everything. Every transmitter, VFO, modulator, amplifier, and VHF receiving converter was homebrewed - dozens of items, all neatly arranged on desktops or in rack cabinets. His two meter rig was a plate-modulated pair of Eimac 4CX300As using push-pull 4-250 modulators, and ran about 600 Watts output power, on two meter AM. His receiving converter was a “W2AZL” converter using a low-noise planar triode tube preamplifier, and he downconverted to 28-30 MHz, using the HRO-60 as a tuner. Incredible stuff.

With this amazing accumulation of stuff, Neal could chit-chat with stations in Maine and Virginia on two meter AM, like they were next door - stuff I couldn't even hear. So, I asked the big question: “What's the most important thing, here, that makes it so you can contact stations so far away?”

He gave me the honest and correct answer, which I'll never forget: “It's the antenna, son. Nothing else is very important, and I just had fun building all this stuff. But if you brought your little Gonset over here and connected it to my antenna, you could work everything I can.”

So, a few weeks later, I did.

We plugged the top-mounted SO-239 connector on the Gooney Box (familiar term of endearance for Gonset Communicators of the 1950's) into his water hose - I mean, feedline. It turns out what I thought was a fat water hose was actually Neal's coax, and it was military RG17/U, which looks like very fat water hose, even close up. It has about one-fourth the loss of conventional RG213/U type coax, and is, of course, about four times fatter and heavier.

I tuned across the band, that Monday night. Sure enough, there were stations in Rhode Island, Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine - and one in Montreal, a VE2 calling CQ on two meter AM. Montreal was not only another country, but was more than 350 miles away, almost due north, over several substantial sets of hills. But there he was. With my mighty 5W output from the Gonset, I answered the VE2. And got him!

Next step

“Dad,” I said, “I want to put up a really big beam antenna. I've saved up the money for it, but I think I need help.”

The 15 element Telrex was, at the time, $99.95 from Telrex of Asbury Park, NJ. It was the highest gain two meter antenna on the market, ever, and had this 28-foot boom which would overhang our house. I had the $99.95, and also the money for a rotator, coax, and rotor cable, since I'd been saving birthday money, Christmas money, paper route money and any kind of money for a long time. I was hoping to somehow strap this monster to our chimney, and get Dad to go along with it.

Dad was, if anything, a pretty good carpenter and backyard mechanic and had a tool collection that anyone would envy. He reviewed my plans and decided I was crazy. The chimney would never hold this thing. It would take something far stronger, like an antenna tower. I didn't have enough money for a tower, and the base, and the concrete, so we struck a compromise: A roof tower, which Dad would install to be sure it's done right - and I'd do everything else.

Not so many kids are so lucky to have parents who would let them install a tower on the roof of their new suburban home, but I was.

A few weeks later, I had a 15-element Telrex yagi for 2 meters towering over the neighborhood at about forty feet above ground. The little Gonset exploded to life with signals it had never heard before. Neal came by in his car, looked up, and said to me, “Good job. You've got it, now.”

VHFing

He didn't know how much I really got it. The big antenna opened not only doors, but windows and corridors, and I found myself working stuff that, other than Neal, almost nobody else locally could work. I got a part-time job after school and on Saturdays, working at - where else? - the local “candy store,” a large retail electronics store that happened to be the biggest ham radio equipment dealer in the tri-state area. I worked in the ham radio department. Minimum wage, but lots of hours, and I started accumulating equipment.

One thing led to another, but without doubt, I knew that by far the most important things were antennas. The gear almost didn't matter. I had a little 4 element six meter beam, not on the roof tower, but on a tripod over the garage (too low, and too small) and although it “worked great” -- as hams often say when they make lots of contacts -- in reality, it didn't work great - it worked. A co-worker named John, WA2PBN (who is still active today as W5JON in Texas), had a 6-element Telrex six meter beam up about fifty feet on a tower in his parents' yard, and could work circles around me on six. If I wanted to really “DX” on six, it was better to do it from John's house. Proving once again, antennas aren't the main thing, they're the only thing. Just as Neal said.

That, and Location

When I bought my first house at the ripe old age of 23, having just gotten married (don't even go there) and my first real job out of college, VHF Wisdom prevailed and I looked only at homes on hilltops with a clear horizon and long view. The house sat at 1230 feet above sea level, 300 feet directly above a 10 mile long lake, so it had an “over the water” shot in several directions. Although the house was more than 40 miles from New York City, I could see the Skyline out several windows. It was high, for New Jersey.

Up went the same roof tower, this time with antennas for 50-144-220-432 MHz all fed with hardline. When I first fired up on the air, almost every station contacted said something like, “Holy cow! You're in New Jersey?” And they said that because they rarely heard anyone from my state quite so strong, before. Especially a lot of guys up around Toronto, 350 miles to my northwest. Most of NJ is blocked in that direction, but I wasn't. It was “across the lake,” and I could see about halfway there, it seemed. Signals from Toronto were so strong on VHF that I could actually watch Toronto UHF-TV stations, using an indoor loop antenna on the back of the TV set. From 350 miles away.

So, antennas count, and location counts, too. I've since moved more than a dozen times, and owned fifteen more homes, and every single one of them has been hand picked as a ham radio location, at least to the extent that I made sure there were no antenna restrictions, and I also made sure I had a clear horizon in some key directions.

Simple math

Here's a common theme among hams who have dabbled in VHF but became disheartened or bored, and went on to other things:

“Where's all the SSB activity on two meters?”

Ya know, it's right there, but you're not hearing it. And that's the truth, almost always. The fact is, the VHF-UHF bands are nearly noise free and you really can enjoy a receiver with 0.1uV sensitivity. Because the bands are so relatively noiseless (compared with HF-MF), antenna reciprocity works very well up here. That is, antennas that work well for transmitting work equally well for receiving - which isn't always the case on HF.

Here's a factoid that many don't quite understand: No matter where you live, or what you use for a station, if you're working VHF-SSB, the vast majority of signals you work and hear will be weak. If you have a terrible location and poor antenna, you might only hear five weak signals all week long - and they'll be weak, for sure. If you move to a mountaintop with a huge antenna array, now you'll hear one thousand weak signals during that same week - and they'll be weak, too. The nature of VHF-UHF weak signal work is that the signals really are weak. With a good antenna and good location, you'll hear a lot more of them, and the closer ones will be stronger, for sure - but the majority of signals will still be weak. They'll just be coming in from farther away.

Another factoid: Every time you double your working radius, you quadruple your working area, and the quantity of stations you can work. If you increase your working radius (on two meters) from 50 miles to 250 miles by adding a new beam and tower, you've just increased your working area, and the number of stations you can work, by a factor of 25 to 1. Not five to one, but 25 to one, because the ratio is the square of the radius change. The average ham probably doesn't think about this, but VHFers should: It's a very important statistic.

So, when you work VHF using a little zero-gain loop on the chimney and have a nice, solid 50 mile radius coverage for day-to-day tropo work, you may think you're doing just fine. But change the loop to a 9 element beam, and increase its height to double what it was, and your radius will change from 50 miles to 250 miles, in most cases. That will immediately allow you to hear, and to work, 25 times more stations than you could before. Geometry is a powerful thing.

If you routinely hear five different stations on 2m SSB in an average week, now you'll be hearing 125 different stations in that same average week. Don't believe it? Hah! Try it. Then, you'll believe it.

Bottom line: On average, a small rotatable beam at fifty feet above ground will increase the number of stations you can hear and work by a factor of about 25 to 1, compared with a loop antenna at twenty-five feet. A large rotatable array will increase it by 50 to 1.

With a 50 mile working radius, you're covering 7,854 square miles. With a 350 mile working radius (large beam array on a tower), you're covering 384,845 square miles.

That's important stuff.

So, next time you wonder, “Where is everybody?” think about improving your antenna situation. A small change (in terms of actual cost) will make more of a difference than a monumental change in the station equipment.

And always remember, the nature of VHF weak signal work is that we're dealing mostly with weak signals. You can have the biggest station on Earth, and most of the stations you'll contact will still be weak - there will just be a great number of them.

Alternatives

Not everybody can put beams on towers. If you absolutely cannot, due to restrictive covenants, consider taking your whole VHF station portable for routine operations. This can involve making the station small but effective, and easy to get into and out of your vehicle - or maybe leaving it all in the vehicle!

Another childhood memory: As a kid, even with the big Telrex beam and having worked up to about 100 Watts of transmitter power on two meters, and a very good receiving converter ahead of my trusty NC-303 receiver, I still didn't have a good location. We lived in a lowland area only about 100 feet above sea level, very open to the east and south but blocked in some other directions. Even the huge 15 element beam on the roof tower couldn't see over a 450 foot hill just to the north of me, which restricted what could be worked in that direction.

So, even before I had a driver's license, I built a mobile setup and used to beg dear old Dad to take me “up the hill” to see what I could work from up there. The top of the hill was only about 3 miles away, and it was a short drive. We'd set up with a 20 Watt Clegg transceiver and a homebrewed, portable 8 element yagi that I could break down into three sections and stuff in the trunk in about 30 seconds. The yagi was supported by a 15' collapsible mast which was in turn supported by something similar to a Christmas tree stand. I could set it all up in a few minutes, next to the car so I could reach out the window to turn the antenna.

From the top of “the hill,” I could rag chew with guys 300 miles away, in the directions I was blocked from home. This teaches one a lot about “location,” which of course drove every single house purchase I ever made, as retold earlier.

So, you might consider something like this, too. It's great, especially if you have a fairly local hilltop you can access conveniently. It also great if you have a really great mountaintop you can access inconveniently, but use just now and then for a VHF contest or something.

Another alternative, of course, is to make friends with a local VHF “Big Gun” (a ham with a huge and effective home station) and make arrangements to use his station now and then. Like I started out doing with Neal, W2KME - and like hundreds of hams all over the world do, to enhance their operations on all bands, not just VHF.

End

There you have it.

I don't want to argue with anybody about whether they're “doing great” or “having fun,” because only the operator himself knows if he's having fun or not, and it's not up to us to judge. Some might have a whale of a good time fooling around on two meter SSB, making one contact a day (or night) out to 100 miles or so. Great.

But most people have a competitive spirit and want to do better. I'm surely one of those. The point here is to understand that unless you already have several large stacked beams up very high above ground, you can improve your VHF station a great deal - regardless of what's in the “shack.” And the improvements can come in quantum leaps, not little baby steps. As we detailed earlier, a loop at 25' will make contacts. From the same location, usually, a beam at 50' won't only make more contacts, but will make twenty-five times more contacts, simply because you've now exposed yourself to twenty-five times more area. Silly to argue the point, it's too easy to prove.

WB2WIK/6

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VHF Fun  
by KG6PIP on June 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Great article! Thanks!
 
VHF Fun  
by AC5CH on June 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Wow - This is my most favorite article on Eham yet! It has it all - AM, VHF, and persevering in finding a "ham-friendly" QTH! Great job!

I agree with you. Antennas are the most important component of a station. Now, if I can just figure out how to get the old 19 Element Cushcraft back up, I'll be set!

Have a great week, and thanks for posting such an informative article!

73s

de AC5CH
 
VHF Fun  
by WA1KWA on June 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Great article, Steve, as usual.

Mom's 1961 Buick with HA-460 & 3 element Hilltopper with Armstrong rotator on Pack Monadonck. Great stuff.

Worked Indiana on that rig, with a Saturn 6 halo 30 feet up in a pine tree fed by 100 feet of RG58, yes, 58! I have the QSL to prove it.

Good point on weak signal, hence, the North East Weak Signal group http://www.newsvhf.com/

50 mhz & up weak signal rules!
 
VHF Fun  
by KE4SKY on June 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Outstanding!

Best job ever, Steve.

Thanks alot for this one. It's a goodie!
 
VHF Fun  
by W3ULS on June 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Not much left to say, is there?

Tnx es 73,
John, W3ULS
 
VHF Fun  
by KG4GSC on June 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
GREAT article....and excellent advice! Especially liked the /P comments...for many of us who are in CCR neighborhoods, this is THE way to get some serious VHF DXing in. I'm fortunate that I have a nearby "raised platform" (Pilot Mountain...same one Andy Griffith used to talk about) to work from while /M or /P. An old friend always used to say that I should put a dollar into antenna systems for every dollar I put into gear.....he was right. Weak signals VHF is still my favorite challenge. See ya on the Magic Band.....

Andrew
N4ABA
 
RE: VHF Fun  
by N4BRJ on June 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
This has got to be one of the best articles I've read on eHam.... EVER.
Thank you!
 
RE: VHF Fun  
by KC8VWM on June 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Refresing perspective... Nicely written.

Charles - KC8VWM
 
RE: VHF Fun  
by K0BG on June 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Once again my friend, you've hit the nail on the head. And as you know, I'm gungho when it comes to mobile operation where the antenna is the ONLY thing! Thanks for reminding us that all of the power in the world dumped into a dummy load doesn't go as far as 5 watts into a good antenna.

Alan, KØBG
www.k0bg.com
 
RE: VHF Fun  
by WILLY on June 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!

Steve,

Your writing style is again excellent. Very easy to read. Guaranteed to spark some interest in a reader somewhere.

Thank you for taking your time to inform/remind/entertain us.

73

 
VHF Fun  
by N2OBY on June 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Great article - informative and a pleasure to read. I've been so wrapped up working on my license upgrade in order to work HF, that I've forgotten how much fun VHF/UHF can be. Thanks for reinvigorating my interest!

-Ken N2OBY
 
VHF Fun  
by EN3JIY on June 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Excellent article! Thank you for the factoids, Steve.
I learned a lot.

This month's CQ Jul 2004 magazine has an article by Kent Britain, WA5VJB, called "Cheap 2m Yagis". It features 2, 3, 4, and 6 element Yagis that can be built from scrap wood and copper wire--without needing specialized equipment--and without needing an impedance-matching device to 50ohm coax!! What do you think of these Yagis placed 40 feet above ground, Steve?

I looked for the article online, but the closest I could find was one website showing pictures of a portable Yagi of this design. Go to this URL and look at figures 1, 6, and 9 for an introduction:
http://www.arsqrp.com/ars/pages/back_issues/1999_text/0899_text/zoi_yagi.html

This is a beam you could make in less than an hour.
If you put one in your trunk and drive to the top of a mountain (or to a lakeside) as you did, Steve, maybe a whole new world would open up !

Thank you, too, Steve, for pointing out that "having fun" is and ought be the ultimate judge of what we do.

Alan, N3JIY
 
VHF Fun  
by K7VO on June 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Outstanding article, Steve. The point is well taken and well made.

When I moved to this QTH (high for this area, relatively minor antenna restrictions) I worked with a loop on 6m and a 4 el. beam on 2m, both up less than 30'. Did I get out? Sure, when conditions were right. Did I have fun? Yes.

Now I have a 3 el. beam on 6m about 30' up and a 10 el. beam on 2m about 38' up. Bottom line: I am making more contacts and having more fun.

I guess my point is that just because someone is restricted with what they can do doesn't mean they shouldn't try. Do the best you can with what you have and try and find reasonable, creative ways to improve the situation. More, better, higher antenna will always net a better result than an "upgrade" of the rig. I put upgrade in quotes because some old rigs with low noise floors do better than a newer rig with a nosiy synthesizer.

73,
Caity
K7VO/4
 
VHF Fun  
by K0RGR on June 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Excellent as usual -

We should point out that it's not just weak signal modes that benefit from a great antenna system, either.

I use the ARRL's computerized Repeater Directory to illustrate that point.

Rochester, MN is located about 75 miles southeast of the Twin Cities.

A handheld around here can usually access 3 2 meter repeaters, all of which are within a couple miles of town.

A good 50 watt mobile can work those three repeaters, and may be able to reach some of those in small towns 40-50 miles away.

A 50 watt home station with a small yagi 20-30 feet above the roof can work the repeaters in the Twin Cities; Eau Claire, WI; LaCrosse, WI; Menominee, WI, and several other pretty big places. Over 300 repeaters, not counting some big linked systems in MN, WI, and IA! In other words, a huge difference.



 
RE: VHF Fun  
by K1CJS on June 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Steve, Thanks for this very informative article. Its probably obvious that the antenna is 'way more than half of any good station, but its not that obvious that even little changes such as height and location will make a BIG difference in preformance. Thanks for highlighting that even little improvements mean a lot. Happy DXing.
 
VHF Fun  
by KG4MCC on June 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
This makes me look forward to the next 'VHF Hilltopping Event'. Your article is really outstanding.

Stuff like this is good enough for a book. Any chance that you are working on one?

73,
Dave - KG4MCC
 
VHF Fun  
by W8KQE on June 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Excellent article Steve! Thanks!

I just got on 6 meters for the first time in late 2001, when we had great F2 propagation into Europe and South America, as the MUF climbed up above 50MHz. I put up a simple PAR 'Loop' at 25 feet, and have had phenomenal luck with it. I still have that same 'loop' antenna up, and use it exclusively on 6, with over 210 grids worked, many on double hop, with over 35 DX countries. I am only now seriously considering putting up something with more gain so I can hear and work even more stations. I don't have room for a 5 element beam, but could go for a smaller 3 element, or may even consider stacking a pair of PAR 'loops'. The nice thing about stacking loops is that you will be able to hear well omnidirectionally, but of course there is no F/B ratio to minimize 'undesirable' station interference coming from a direction you don't want to hear. Has anyone else used stacked loops on 6m, and how would this setup compare to using just one loop as I am now? I would be curious to hear how others have fared.
 
VHF Fun  
by K5USS on June 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
AMEN!!!

Due to CC&Rs I have to place all of my antennas in the attic of my home.

All of my antennas are homebrew, tuned to a very low SWR, and mounted on a small rotor attached to a joist. I consistantly make contacts out to 150 miles with no problem on 2m. In my modest sized attic I have a 9el 2m, 8el 222, and a 19el 432 on the rotor and 3 6m loops of various types and sizes. All are fed with RG-213u or RG-217u.

I have MANY local friends that have a LOT of aluminum in the air outside of their home that cannot work the stations I do. Why, because they have thrown up an antenna, used lossy line, and have not maximized the gain! I was called a liar during a recent tropo opening when I told a friend I had worked NC on 2m and 432 with my attic set-up...When he saw the card last week he asked if I thought we could improve his tower mounted set-up...

One of the first things I was told when I got into amateur radio was exactly what Steve said, your antenna and feedline are THE most important pieces of equipment.

Steve, great article and looking forward to more!

Charlie
K5USS Em12
 
RE: VHF Fun  
by K4JSR on June 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Steve, I really like your article. It shows the true
personal excitement and joy that you get from ham radio put into a perspective easily understandable
by all who read it. Your writing was reminescent of
the stories told in the old "Popular Electronics"
Magazine reflecting the adventures of Carl and Jerry.
I hope I remembered the names correctly...The mind *IS* the second thing to go...
I firmly believe that if more articles are written with this same "joie de vivre" regarding our hobby and service, the future would be secure and assured.
Keep the spirit going. You already have us clamoring for more.
73, Cal K4JSR
 
RE: VHF Fun  
by KJ7XJ on June 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Very well written Steve!

Its stuff like this that make me dream radio. I dont have any CC&Rs, however I dont have lots of $ for radios either. Living on a hill and reading this story makes me want to re-experiment with the VHF spectrum. My Ringer Ranger for 2m could always use company on the roof! Thanks for the story!

Eric
 
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by N9DG on June 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Steve, Great article. You didn't however illustrate the importance of matching polarization with the station you're trying to work. One of the most common mistakes made by hams with their brand new all mode, all band radios is to try and work SSB/CW on the so called weak signal parts of the V/UHF bands using the same vertically polarized antenna that they just setup for working the repeaters. More often than not they come away from that experience with a bad impression of V/UHF SSB because they don't hear or work many people. The reason they can't work many people is because they shot themselves in the foot with a ~20dB loss due to cross polarization.
 
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by AF4OD on June 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
This is an excellent article. Very good info and lots of good advice. Maybe a few more folks will join in on the vhf/uhf fun. See you on 50,144, 222 and 432

73 and good dx

bill af4od
 
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by KD5JFT on June 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
It is articles like this that help ham radio. I am a lowly no-code tech. I have a decent vhf/uhf setup now. I have plans to greatly improve my antennas. I have the feedline, rotor, control cable, just not the antennas yet. I have about half the parts needed for the antennas though. Soon. . .soon. . .I will have a great 50Mhz on up station. Two operator positions, several radios, all mode from 6M to 70cm. All battery powered and capable of surviving tornado force winds (been there, done that; my next door neighbor lost his roof, my antennas survived). Currently I have only loops and verticals. The beams are in the making. Soon. . .soon. . .
Thanks for the great article. I occasionally need something like this to add a small bit of motivation.

KD5JFT
 
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by WB2WIK on June 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
N9DG, you're so right.

I should have mentioned that cross-polarization has killed many would-be VHF efforts. And while the "20 dB" loss figure you quoted has been oft repeated among the amateur community for as long as I can remember, in reality it can be much worse. The 20dB may be some sort of average, but this will vary with antenna design and elevation as well as signal reflection and refraction, all of which are variables. In an anechoic chamber, I can create more than 60 dB (VHF) cross-polarization loss...to the extent where very strong signals disappear completely into the noise by simply rotating one antenna 90 degrees on axis.

WB2WIK/6
 
RE: VHF Fun  
by N6AJR on June 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
good job. In radio its antenna, in stereo's it is the speaker, the part that is the best place to spend your money.

Going from a small verticle to a small beam on any band will make an impressive difference, and doing so with the lowest loss line you can afford helps too.

I use 8x for almost all my runs (cheep) But I keep my uhf/vhf stuff in close to the shack ( under 30 feet or so) and the hf stuff out farther. less loss that way.

You hit the nail on the head though, if ya can't hear them, ya can't work them, so the antenna is more DB's per dollar gain than a linearamp, just because it works better all the time.

I tell my Tech friends there is more to life than 2 meter fm repeaters..

nice article 73 tom N6AJR
 
RE: VHF Fun  
by KB1KOX on June 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Thanks Steve for a Great Article!!I've been working on a decent vhf-uhf station and your article just motivate's me to hurry up and get it done!

p.s. the "book" idea sounds great to me!
 
VHF Fun  
by N3AIU on June 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
During the last Es opening on 6m, I made almost 150 QSOs and worked 87 grids from my QTH in northeast Colorado. I worked Mexico, Canada, the northwest, the midwest, and all the way to North Carolina.

Given the "magic band" reputation of 6m, my success should not surprise you. What may surprise you, however, is my station setup: an IC706MkIIG running 100W into my 100' HF longwire through a tuner and 40' of lossy RG58 coax. Next time, I'd be tempted to try 5 watts into a coathanger fed by wet string ...

73, Nick N3AIU
 
RE: VHF Fun  
by WB2WIK on June 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Nick (N3AIU), congrats on the good work!

But it's as I've said for many years, "Good antennas for six meters are what you need the *other* 350 days a year, when the band's not open. When the band is wild, anything will work."

If you like 6m and didn't catch the weekend of November 16, 2001, you'd be shocked at what everyone worked those two or three days. From my home station using just 150W and a 5L yagi at 65', in about eight hours of operating I worked 44 states, 16 countries, 201 grids and all continents on 6m SSB and CW, starting the day with working into the Czech Republic and ending the day with a contact into DU1 (Philippines)...all from Los Angeles. Many who were better equipped, better sited or had more time to operate did far better.

But don't count on that happening very often!

WB2WIK/6

 
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by W5JON on June 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Steve,

Another great article. That was great fun back then.
You are right, the Telrex and tower really helped, but also having the Johnson 6&2 Thunderbolt, running a KW didn't hurt.

73,

John W5JON (ex-WA2PBN)
 
VHF Fun  
by B4ART on June 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Hi Steve--I am not a ham radio operator but my "sweetie" is. We are in the process of looking for a house--he forwarded your article to me to help "guide" me--to speak for him. Now, I enjoyed reading it very much--your enthusiasm and knowledge about ham radio is catching. I've already wholeheartedly endorsed the Orion, hamswaps, Field day, contests, antennae appreciation but...finding this house on a hill miles away from everything...You definitely make a strong case...hmmm? what's a city girl to do? Great article. Barb
 
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by WB2WIK on June 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
B4ART, I'm a "city guy" myself, and finding a hilltop home with a long horizon and no antenna restrictions is easy to do nearly anywhere that has any hills. I've never lived "out in the country," and really don't want to.

Here in L.A. where I live, half the population lives in the hills, or on hillsides -- and L.A. is a very "ham antenna friendly" city, with no restrictions on amateur radio towers.

WB2WIK/6

 
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by K9ZF on June 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Great article Steve!

The same concept applies to Rovers as well:

http://www.qsl.net/n9rla/04em69.jpg

73
Dan
Dan Evans K9ZF
Scottsburg, IN 47170
{EM78}
K9ZF /R no budget Rover
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by W8GTX on June 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
GREAT ARTICLE!
I find myself very attracted to 50 mhz and above. Always have, always will.
 
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by W9SZ on June 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I know it's already been said, but - Great article, Steve!

My home location isn't conducive to great VHF+ operation. I would have to put up an antenna at least 50 feet up, and that isn't possible where I live. So what I do is head for the hills with a portable antenna if the band is open. That way, I rely on the height of the hill, and the antenna only needs to be 15 to 20 feet off the ground on a portable mast.

I like to operate the VHF+ contests from hilltops. I can get the equipment for 9 bands (rigs and antennas) all stuffed into a Toyota Corolla. So I know it would be easy for someone to make a small homebrew 5 element 144 MHz beam that can be easily broken down and put into just about any car, or even carried in a backpack.

Maybe others who have a two meter all-mode rig might consider trying this out - you might be able to hear and work as much on a hilltop with a smaller antenna than you would have to put up in a city.
 
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by KG6JUF on June 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!


it's about time for a book, you have a lot of info to put in it. This is what ham radio is all about, great stuff.
 
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by B4ART on June 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Hi Thanks for your e-mail. That's good to know. Sounds like you have a good system and you are not completely isolated. Having lived in a condo, surrounded by neighbors for years to suddenly change to what seems to be an isolated area with towering antennaes...

Barb
 
VHF Fun , WHAT ? That just about dos it  
by KF4VGX on June 30, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
All Right ! That just about dos it !
Of course I mean the yagi setup. The memories that you share and the way you share them , leaves little for others to bicker about. The magic of your words should be in paper sheets bound into a volume .
I'm looking for the first issue.
73 With respect, KF4VGX
 
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by KM6LN on June 30, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Excellent article!..I'm fortunate to live on a hill and can get out pretty well with a modest vertical mounted on my roof...you've inspired me to get a beam up on a tower! I've been Advanced Class for over 10 years but spend most of my time on 2 meters and 220!
Great bands! Even thinking about getting back into packet on these 2 bands. Enjoy that VHF!

Nick
KM6LN
 
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by W9GRN on June 30, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Outstanding story!Learned a lot from this article and wish to see more of these.
 
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by K9KJM on June 30, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
YES! Another great article!

Back in the old days a length of RG 17 coax was like GOLD! (At least to me)

Now days it is much easier to find good used heliax and or even large size CATV feedline that can be pressed in to service.

I hope those who complain of not much on VHF reread
the parts about how important good antennas AND feedline are. (And to keep that feedline length as short as possible) Very well written to drive that point home.
 
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by W2CDO on June 30, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Great piece. Back in the early 60s, I ran 120 watts AM on 2 with an 11 element Cushcraft up at about 20' on a mast bolted to the side of the house. Worked from Maine down to NC and west to WV. And then there was the Mt. Equinox (VT) dxpedition in '62 or '63. Ran 100 watts, I remember, and a BC-348 with Ameco converters, 7 over 7 Cushcrafts on a mast 20 feet up over our tent. In the parking lot of the inn. Saw my first Jaguar XKE, had my first beer and smoked my first cigarettes that weekend. Faber's old '52 Merc had four bald tires but made the trip end to end.

best regards,

Peter W2CDO (ex-WA2ONO)
 
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by N4KZ on June 30, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Polarization. That's the ticket.

If you have the correct antenna polarization on 2 meter SSB/CW, you will hear signals. If you don't, you might as well turn off the rig and watch TV because you will hear very little.

I was very active on 2 meter SSB/CW from Michigan and Kentucky for over 20 years. I worked 32 states from Michigan; 40 from Kentucky. You must have horizontally polarized antennas for successful 2 meter weak-signal work.

When rag-chewing on the HF bands, I would often work into the conversation my weak-signal work on 2 meters. Time and time again hams were amazed at what could be done with 100 to 200 watts and a single yagi antenna up 50 feet on 2 meter SSB/CW. But having the correct antenna polarization was key.

Many told me they had listened on 2 meters for SSB activity but never heard any. Invariably, when I asked about their antenna, they replied they had listened on a vertically polarized antenna for FM work. Being cross-polarized immediately attenuates VHF signals by 20 to 30 dB. That's right, 20 to 30 dB! No wonder they never heard any SSB activity.

Even having a horizontally polarized yagi isn't enough. I've never owned a 2 meter rig (and I've had several) that didn't need a low-noise preamp too. As Steve said, those signals are weak but they are there if you have the correct antenna set-up and a good low-noise preamp.

Several years ago, while living in EM77 here in Central Kentucky, I ran a three-times-a-week sked with a station in northern Michigan for several months. Even at a distance of 450 miles, we never failed to make contact -- not once. Some evenings signals were too weak for SSB so we went to CW but we never failed to make contact. I was using a modest set-up -- 160 watt solid state amp with Kenwood 2-meter multi-mode rig to a 18 element Cushcraft beam with 29 foot boom up 50 feet. I snagged 40 of the 50 states from Kentucky with that set-up and even managed several EME contacts with big gun stations on moonrise and moonset.

I've never quite understood why so many hams are unaware of what is possible with weak-signal work on 2 meters. The exploits have been well-documented in QST and CQ over the years, plus many books. It's tremendously interesting, challenging and as satisfying as working good DX on HF. Plus, the pile-ups are small as are the antennas compared to HF.

But, again, a key to this is having the same polarization others on the band have -- and that is horizontal for weak-signal work. Otherwise, it will be difficult, nearly impossible, to copy anyone. I explained all this to a friend of mine after he said he was interested in trying 2 meter SSB. Later, he reported back to me that he had heard nothing after weeks of listening to the band.

"What kind of beam did you put up?" I asked.

"Well, I was just listening on my Ringo Ranger," he replied.

"Jim, don't you remember me telling you not to waste your time with a vertically polarized antenna on SSB?"

"Yes, but I didn't think you were serious. I thought you were joking," he said.

It's no joke. As to why weak signal dudes run horizontal rather than vertical, it's a long story best reported in another missive. But for now, let's just say it's been that way since the 1950s and horizontal is now the standard for weak-signal VHF.

73,
Dave, N4KZ
Ex-WE4K, KJ8S, WB8TOB
 
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by N3AIU on June 30, 2004 Mail this to a friend!

Steve (WB2WIK),

Many thanks for your encouragement. Unfortunately, I cannot do much to improve my antenna at my Colorado QTH (I live in a small condo), but I can definitely use some of your suggestions at my vacation QTH (2.5 acres of dirt and prairie dogs).

I caught the tail end of the Nov 16 opening. I worked Hawaii twice within 5 minutes, once on SSB and the other on CW.

73, Nick N3AIU
 
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by WB2WIK on June 30, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
N4KZ, great comments!

Briefly re horizontal polarization: I asked this same question of many old-time VHF mentors back in the 1960s when the information was still fresh in their memories and got pretty much the same response from everyone.

That was, the reason horizontal polarization is used for VHF weak-signal work (and has been since the AM days) is that it just plain works better for tropospheric forward scatter over the horizon, which is the predominant propagation mode for most long-distance (non-ionospheric) VHF contacts. RCA-NBC evidently tried both vertical and horizontal polarization for experimental TV broadcasts back in the 1930s and after several months of research, came to the conclusion that TV broadcast (and reception) should use horizontal polarization as signals were nearly always stronger over the horizon this way, so they could extend their coverage from any given transmitter site. You might note that TV broadcast receiving antennas, to this day, are still horizontally polarized.

WB2WIK/6
 
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by K3UD on June 30, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Great Stuff!

When I was a Novice In the Philadelphia suburbs in 1965 I built a Heath Twoer and my first antenna was a TV antenna up about 20 feet, but was able to make contacts around the Philadelphia area and sometimes into South Jersey.

In anticipation of the purchase of an Ameco TX-62 and a Johnson 6n2 converter to put ahead of my SX-110, A local ham (K3ZSG, now W0RSJ) gave me an antenna rotor and loaned me a Hy-Gain 15 element 2 meter beam. We put it up at the 30-35 foot level and with the Twoer, I was able to work into NNJ, ENY, NLI, and some of New England when the band was right. I could also work to the south pretty well.

The weak point of the Twoer was its superregenerative receiver which tended to be a wide as a barn door, but was rather sensitive. Late at night, when the band was clear of most locals, it was amazing what you could hear on it.

I got the Johnson 6n2 converter before the TX-62 and marveled at how well the 1 or two watts from the Twoer worked out using the beam. The receiver problem had been solved and I was just using the Twoer as a transmitter. My reliable range jumped quite a bit.

The antenna system is everything!

Unfortunately, we had an ice storm that brought down the antenna as well as the chimney, some of which went through the roof. I learned a hard lesson about using TV chminey mounts and stack on masts, as well as learning how much money it cost to repair the damage.

73
George
K3UD
 
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by K3CXG on June 30, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Steve:

Excellent article! My favorite ham activity is SSB on VHF, and I know what you're talking about. I'd much rather have 5 watts into a good antenna than 100 watts into a crappy one. Based on this article and your previous contributions, I hereby nominate you for the honor of famous Live Electrical Dude #1. Philip, are you on frequency? 73, Mike
 
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by KD7ZRO on June 30, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Hey, about time I see an article like this!
I live in a bad area (trailer park w/ very bad interference problem from the power going to the trailers) and I have horible antenna restrictions (not a conventiotional CC&R but close). I use a homebrew verticle with some promising contacts on 2m FM, but after this article I think I will dabb around with 2m AM and SSB and more portible operations.

This article has a very good piece of advice for any beginner, like me, it is all about antennas, antennas and location!

Thanks,
Rod KD7ZRO
 
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by KC0ERG on July 1, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Great article and perfect timing as I just bought an FT-897D because of the 2m and 70cm all mode capabilities. It really is a bargain when you consider that it's just ~$225ish more than entry level HF rigs. I have an Elk Antennas dual band Log Periodic ready to go up (or to the top of Mt. Charleston for some serious height on a mini DXpedition).

Now, I just need to figure out a way to rotate it from vertical to horizontal and back again. Since the antenna is only $75, it may be cheaper to just buy another one and have two up on the roof.

If anyone has any ideas, I'm all ears (or will be once the tower is up!).

The stereo and speakers analogy was fantastic. I would add "feedline/speaker cable" to that since I learned my lesson about "good" versus "great" speaker line. I had some decent, but cheap Monster Cable on my system and wanted to get a better center channel speaker. The very wise salesman at Harvey's Stereo said "Tell you what, I could sell you a speaker, but first try out some of this Kimber Kable we just started carrying." At $1.25 per foot for the 4PR, it was the most I'd ever paid for speaker wire. (Mr. Kimber figured out that since electrons travel on the surface of a wire, that eight smaller conductors have the same capacity as one much larger and more expensive one. He then fed cheap wire through a ski rope making machine and made history.)

That stuff is amazing. My then wife said "Wow! What did you do to the stereo? It sounds SO much better." and she was not an audiophile. Everyone to whom I've ever recommended it has thanked me profusely.

I now feel the same way about feedline. After all of the reading, I now "get" it much better.

KC0ERG, very excited about 2M ssb!
 
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by K5CEY on July 1, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Well,
A few dull comments on my early days on two meters.
It was about 1960 when a buddy of mine in high school decided that we would get on two meters. As far as we knew, it was no man's land and we would be the only ones there.
I built up a simple transceiver patterned after the WERS (War Emergency Radio Service) rigs built during WWII for the 112 mc ham band. A 6C4 ultra audion oscillator which reverted to a super regenerative detector during receive mode, with a 6AV6 1st audio and a 6V6 audio amp. I built it on a small chassis from a plug in coil rack from a BC 230 WWII transmitter.
My buddy who was a man of means, bought a kit from a company which I think was "Springfield Electronics" (or something like that). It had a single 3A5 dual triode filament type tube performing the same functions as mine. He assembled his rig in a cigar box and derived the B+ through a dropping resistor from his Hammarlund HQ 100 receiver.
My 1st antenna was a simple ground plane made with an SO 239 and 19" wire elements (just like they're doing today). It was about 10 feet off the ground.
Max, being a man of means, had purchased a commercial 3 element beam. In those days, it was not more than a couple of bucks.
He had it mounted on the top of his garage in a horizontal plane at maybe 10 or 15 feet.
Our 1st attempt, which was probably a 3 or 4 mile path, failed. He then re oriented then beam into a vertical position. Rats! Still nothing.
In desperation, I made a two element horizontal beam with a Gamma match and mounted it on a 20' length of water pipe.
Max flipped his beam back over to horizontal.
Contact! One day after school, we heard each other Q5 and I made my 1st two meter contact. I remember my rig would just barely lite up a #46 pilot lamp as a dummy load. Probably a 1/4 or 1/2 watt. His 3A5 rig probably wasn't quite as healthy.
Keep in mind, we're talking modulated ultra audion oscillators here, a combination of some AM emission and a whole bunch of FM, and it was very wide. But it sounded pretty good.
One night I happened on to an Army Mars net on 143.9 mc and realized that there was some one else on two meters.
This lead to my eventual acquistion of a T23/ARC 5 transmitter, which I modified to use an 829B in the final and ran 100 watts input for several years on two meter AM. And built a crystal controlled converter with a couple of 6AK5's and 6J6's to use in front of my Hammarlund HQ 129X receiver.
Anyway,in reference to Steve's article, bottom line, it was the antenna that made the difference in my 1st contact on two meters.
Told you that my story was boring.
John
 
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by SM0AOM on July 1, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Nice reading.

It was certainly the thrill of weak-signal VHF operation that got me into amateur radio as a teen-ager in the early 1970's.

In retrospect I am still fascinated by the communications possibilities that 10W CW and a 10-element beam paired with perseverance really provided, and in a way I feel pity for those that only use VHF as an "intercom".

Tinkering with low-noise circuits (remember when a 2N4416 could be a prized possession?) and building
larger and better antennas also gave a lot of real-world insights in the "fine print" of electronics which might have helped to pave the way to make radio engineering a living, but that is another story.

I have to admit that plain laziness still keeps my 2 x 11 element yagi stack in the garage, and consequently my meagre radio activity to the "DC bands".

In Sweden, and maybe in other parts of Europe, the activity situation on the weak-signal band segments has changed to the worse since the 1970's. A lot of activity is concentrated to the contest occasions or band openings, and the bands seem to be idle between these evenings.

A contrast to the mid 1970's when you easily could log 10-15 rag-chew contacts on an average night even when living in a medium-sized town.

73/

Karl-Arne
SM0AOM
 
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by N5TIF on July 1, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Steve

Thanks for the great article on VHF and up. Here in EM12 we have many on these bands but many will not get on unless there is an opening on the bands.
Many work the 350 miles here in my grid but most of them only call it local contacts. I even found myself doing the same thing. Just this morning heard 2 good burns on those burns I heard someone calling cq.

I have stack 13b2s at 35 feet that's the bottom the other is 10 more feet up. I have worked Es tropo MS FAI and some combo of some of these. In the West coast you should find more activity same on the East coast but here in the mid USA it is a deferent story. I will not get into the details but I am all ways looking for more activity here in my area.

I saw K5USS response and yes he does have a good system in the attic. It just goes to show you with a little work and getting the best out of your location you can have great fun!



LEE N5TIF 73
SWOT #3319
VUCC 6M #1114
2M VUCC
#4 on the tropo con list ARRL
 
6m Fun  
by W8KQE on July 1, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Again, awesome article. Directional antennas on VHF are unquestionably superior, yes. But for those that have serious antenna restrictions, you can still attach a temporary 6m horizontal loop to a balcony, attic, or out an upper floor window and work tons of stations when the band is open. In my 3 years of 6m operations, with just a single fixed loop at 25 feet running 'barefoot', I have worked 223 grids, domestic and DX on both CW and SSB combined. So don't miss out on 6m fun due to restrictions. Loops are small enough to enable you to get on the air and work the band on 6. Then when and if you finally can and do go with a directional beam or quad, you will appreciate even more of what you just did with a simple 6m loop!
 
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by WA1RNE on July 1, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Brings back a slew of my own memories; at 15, I started out on 6 AM with a Lafayette HE45 and a HiPar Halo at 20 feet bolted to an oak tree - within about 10 feet from our built-in pool. I would leave the rig set to 50.4 while swimming then take a break every 5-10 minutes and scan the band. (of course, not soaking wet and everything tied well to earth ground.) All of a sudden, a station would pop in from W8 or W4 land, etc. and I was off for and hour or more catching the opening. A Clegg 66'er was substituted for the HE45 which was slightly better on receive.

Later, I added 2 key elements to make 6 meters a lot more fun: SSB mode using a Hallicrafters HA-6 Transverter(anyone remember this rig?)with an FT-101B, and a homebrew 3 element beam at 55'- added over my 3 eleement tribander. What a difference! Around 1990, I built a 5 element version with a combination of scrounged tubing and new Cushcraft hardware; i.e. the gamma match assembly, stainless U-Bolts and element clamps, etc.

I guess the key takeaways are that I got the the most fun and satisfaction from putting together older gear with homebrewed preamps, etc. that could compete with the guys running the latest big $$$$ new gear, building my own antennas AND LEARNING SOMETHING IN THE PROCESS. The key realization for many hams should be that building and mounting VHF or UHF yagi's is not nearly as difficult as HF antennas like a full size 20 meter yagi. The antennas are much smaller and lighter which also makes experimenting with designs a lot easier and a lot easier to keep in the air. I would resist buying a yagi from a dealer and BUILD YOUR OWN!!

By the way, 25 years later, I still have the HA6 and an HA2 and they still work like a champ.
 
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by WB2WIK on July 1, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
WA1RNE, great memories and a good suggestion about homebrewing antennas. For six meters, a lot of stuff isn't particularly critical but for two meters and higher frequencies, it can be. To that end, I'd recommend new homebrewers try Quagi antennas which are quite easy to build and require absolutely *no* sort of driven element matching device at all -- making them some of the least-critical to build gain VHF antennas ever designed.

BTW to supplement your memories:

I remember "Henry Hi-Par" of Fitchburg, MA very well. He was a neighbor to some non-ham friends of mine who lived just off Route 2 in Fitchburg. I also had some of his antennas, including his famous 3-ring Saturn 6 halo.

I used to work for Ed Clegg part-time and had a lot of Clegg gear for "free," as they were lab prototypes. That included a Thor-VI, a 22'er Mk II, a Venus, Zeus and Interceptor. It was great stuff.

And I also had an HA-2 and HA-6, along with the matching PS-26 power supply. Used them with my old Heath Marauder HX-10 and National NC-303 combination. They were indeed pretty good stuff...although someone came along many years ago who wanted them more than I did. By that time, I had homebrewed my own transverters that were a lot smaller!

73 de WB2WIK/6
 
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by W0FM on July 1, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Well, no surprise here, but the mention of the Hi-Par Halo antennas brings immediate memories of my red '57 Chevy with the Hallicrafters SR-6 6M AM mobile rig under the dash and the Hi-Par three ring halo bolted to the rear bumper. There is a drive-in restaurant here in St. Louis called Steak 'n Shake and all the kids hung out there in the early 60's. When I'd drive through Steak 'n Shake with my halo on the bumper, all the customers would wad up hamburger wrappers, napkins, etc and shoot "baskets" at the halo. Good old 6AM days.

Great article, Steve.

73,
Terry, WØFM
 
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by W0FM on July 1, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Make that Hallicrafters an SR-46!
 
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by WB2WIK on July 1, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Terry, a '57 Chevy with a Saturn-6 and an SR-46 should also have a bobbing head doggie in the window, fuzzy dice hanging from the rear view mirror, and maybe a dancing hula girl. Did yours have those?

If so, I think I saw you!

(BTW, the SR-42 and SR-46 were the way I got into working "DX" on VHF-CW. I cut the cathode lead to the 7551 PA tube and installed a shorted 1/4" key jack on the rear panel for a key, and used the "SPOT" function to create BFO injection. I made hundreds of CW contacts this way before everyone said that wouldn't work...)

73!

Steve, WB2WIK/6
 
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by WA1RNE on July 1, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
With all these great stories I obviously need to figure a way to get that 5 element beam back in the air. The halo is still there too, sitting in the rafters of the garage.

Best I've mustered so far is a 2M collinear, 2 elements of my homebrew 10M beam suspended from the rafters and a 20M endfed halfwave wire w/tuner - all in my attic. I would have considered this a pitiful effort 15-20 years ago, like what we used to come up with for Field Day; 2 or 3 guys sitting on a hill at 258 feet above sea level( a near "mountain" close to downtown Burlington, MA) putting up a full size quarter wave vertical on 80 via helium weather balloons along with with full size radials, 2M, 6M yagis, a tribander, 40meter sloper, a small trailer and a 10Kw generator. Oh yeah, 1985 was a pretty good year for hamming it up.

I guess a new QTH and kids puts quite a spin on things, changing antenna experiments and Field Days to other priorities, like soccer practice and bicycle assembly - and sometimes first aid. All in all, the start of a whole new kind of memories.

 
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by KA4KOE on July 1, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Steve, between you and me we have it covered. You do the tech articles, and I supply the off the wall humor!!

Good one. You're Dad was great!

P
 
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by K1OU on July 1, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Does anybody know where I can find a Utica 650 or even or Hallicrafters CRX-5? I would like to thank him for introducing me to the hobby.
 
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by K1OU on July 1, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Does anybody know where I can find a Utica 650 or even or Hallicrafters CRX-5? I would like to thank my father for introducing me to the hobby.
 
VHF Fun  
by N5HNY on July 2, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Steve,

Thanks for your article on two meter weak signal work.

I first read about this type of communications in an old 69' ARRL handbook. I became a Novice in the early 70's and two meter FM was the big thing. So I really didn't know anybody who was into two meter DXing per sey.

I saw my first mutimode two meter rig in the early 80's, a Kenwood TS-700A. I now own one of those radios and have rediscovered the fun of weak signal work.

I have a pair of "sqaulos" stacked on a push up pole only about fifteen feet off the ground. At first I didn't hear anything and was dissappointed. Then I heard a couple of stations in Mississippi and Tennessee having a QSO. I called and they heard me. We had a nice QSO and I was very impressed with what a few watts would do.

Later on I checked into a net and found that interesting. During the "contest" a few weeks ago, I called a station in southern Illinois. He tried to come back but just couldn't pull me out.

I am currently putting up a forty foot tower. I am sure that will help my little sqaulos do a better job. I plan on putting up a rotor and multielement yagi later on. Maybe an amplifier ?

I really don't know why more amateurs don't try this stuff. If you don't have a big gun station, the big guys are nice enough to swing their big arrays at you. I bought my radio for $150 bucks on E-bay and it works great. I paid $50 for the Sqaulos and phasing harness.

Maybe I'll work you and some of the other folks here on two meter SSB.

Thanks
Vance
N5HNY
 
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by KT8K on July 2, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Thanks to my sweetie "B4art" for her support of my hobbie. (She's an artist by night - thus the login ID).

In '81 or so, just having moved from novice to advanced, I set up a 1B field day operation with a 17' home brew mast, guyed by 40 and 80 meter inverted vees with a single coax feed, and an 11 element Cushcraft on a shovel handle at the top. My Tempo S1 HT with 1.5 watts FM allowed me to work Cleveland, Escanaba (U.P. of Mich.), Fort Wayne, and Milwaukee at dawn on Sunday morning - what a thrill! I could hear the Cleveland FD crowd at something-8ACY (I think) laughing in their tent that I had made it that far - I thought they must be running a kilowatt, they were so loud.

After that I got interested in 2m ssb and picked up a TR9000 10w 2m all mode rig at Dayton in '84 for $450. They were selling like hotcakes. I got a 15 element long-spaced monster-beam somewhere and proceeded to take it out on a series of field days. The Chelsea Michigan club let me run 2M ssb at their operation 40 miles West of Detroit, and I found myself working stations in WNY, WPA, WV, all over OH, IN, IL, WI, and the upper peninsula of Mich - I was totally gassed!
On subsequent Field Days I did the same for my own club, with my record being three QSOs with stations around San Antonio, Texas - a long long way from Ann Arbor, MI. I admit I had borrowed a 150 watt Mirage for that year. After that I used that setup for a number of years and different FD sites around Ann Arbor, and usually could make 300 miles in most directions. One year a screw came loose on the feedpoint of the big boomer, and every time I keyed down on CW the lawn was lit up by the nice blue arc up on the antenna. Tightening the screw fixed that.

In recent years I have concentrated on 40CW (personal best 350 QSOs this year), but I yearn to get back on 2 meter ssb, and I may do something serious about it this Summer - that big boomer wants to get up in the air again. I also obtained a used squalo 2m loop and triple mag mount for the car. That old TR9000 still works, and I intend to keep it that way. Can anyone recommend a good mast-mount low noise preamp?

Hope to catch you on 2ssb soon. 73 & good reception de kt8k - Tim
 
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by W4NJF on July 2, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Hi Steve!,
Great piece;You did learn something about good English at Jonathan Dayton HS (LOL!!!).
In all seriousness, I think we both both listened to "Ole Shep" and probably having spent a evening or two at "The Limelight",I do believe that the folks asking you to write a a book are on the right track.You are a most worthy sucessor to Shep-GO FOR IT!
Vy Best 73 de Bill W4NJF ex WA2UUV,EX VQ9WF
See ya on 17!
 
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by K7VO on July 2, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I've seen the Tokyo Hy-Power HRA-2 mast mounted preamp (out of production, sadly) go on eBay for a tiny amount of money (as in a low two digit price). If you can find one they are an excellent inexpensive choice. I use THP preamps on both 2m and 70cm and they definitely do a great job.

I wish I could recommend something on the current market, but my old preamps refuse to fail :)

73,
Caity
K7VO
 
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by KC8SBV on July 2, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Keep up the articles, they keep me coming back here. I print them off, and am sending the links to my Dad.

Great article!! A book would NOT be out of the question!

73!
Ed KC8SBV
 
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by WB2WIK on July 2, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Hey there Mr. Fulling...

I've worked you under all those callsigns, including the VQ9WF one (1970 or so?)...

My JDRHS 35th HS reunion is this October 8th at the Westin in Morristown. Funny you should mention JD -- and I'm going, even though it's a 6000 mile round-trip.

73 & CU on 17m

Steve

 
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by W4NJF on July 2, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Hi Steve,
Go to that reunion;I've never gone back to any of mine (Woodbridge SR HS '62) because there are few people that I'd like to settle a few scores with out in the parking lot!Like to see some of my old YLs but a nite (or several) in the Middlesex county jail isn't worth it.
Like I mentioned B4,go do the book;Shep no doubt would approve.73 de Bill
"In God we trust,all others pay cash!"
 
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by WB2WIK on July 2, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Okay, Bill.

I went to the Limelight plenty of times when Shep was on, and miss it -- and him.

"You're gonna shoot your eye out!"

73 de Steve
 
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by KE4IOK on July 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
As an apartment dweller, I read the article like a Tom Clancy novel; I didn't want it to end - I was enjoying it too much. It's all true: location and antenna height are universal truths. Yes, I make a lot of contacts with my M2 2 and 6 Meter loops, but I know deep down that I am compromising. One day, I hope I too will live in "beam land."
Great article! How about some more thoughts and wisdom, WB2WIK/6 ?
 
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by KC8SLY on July 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Great article and very well written!

KC8SLY
 
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by N9VKC on July 5, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Steve,

This was a great article. I do hope you write more.

73's

Chris N9VKC
 
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by KB1JAG on September 4, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I'm looking for a new house lately and it's difficult to find the right house to meet all of the family's needs. Wait till I tell the wife we have to live on a mountain top too! :-)
 
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by KG6WLV on February 7, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
I have been on the air six months. I started with a vertical on sideband, and yes, it's the pits. My horizontally polarized mini-Yagi (Cushcraft A120-10S) for 2-meters and 60cm is up forty feet. WOW, what a difference! And now I'm itching to go higher and bigger -- perhaps a smaller "long boom" Yagi for 2-meters. The Cushcraft I'll retire to vertical polarization for FM, or take hilltopping.
I also raised my 6-meter 5-element Yagi from 20 feet to 30. Big difference there, too.
Has anyone else heard the old rule of thumb that says doubling your antenna height is equivalent to a five-fold increase in your ERP at the old height? That was axiomatic in broadcast engineering.
Great story, great feedback.
 
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by W7ANM on February 26, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Nice article.

I was wondering if there is any AM activity on 2 meters now? Should I get the Gonset out?

Jerry W7ANM
 
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by KG6WLV on March 10, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
Like many others have mentioned, I tried 2-meter SSB with a vertical, and it wasn't much fun. When I put up my modest Cushcraft A27010S 60 cm/2-meter yagi, forty feet up on a rotator, the difference was like night and day -- my signal reports from the weak signal nets were much improved, and I could actually HEAR activity on the bands. I can work stations out to 200 miles with 100 Watts, and it's really fun! If you don't want to homebrew an antenna, try a small Yagi and get it up as high as you can. Use a RS rotator or similar, and you're in business. And yes... use GOOD coax, or you're wasting your time -- I think my feedlines cost nearly as much as some of my antennas. If you go to a long-boom Yagi later, you can use the small one for FM simplex and distant repeater work.
Hilltopping is a lot of fun, too. There's a real kick in working a guy 70 miles away on 2-meter FM with 2 Watts and a rubber duck. My plans for spring include combining my interests in backpacking and hilltopping for some DXpeditions up our local mountain.
I want to get on HF sometime, but right now I'm meeting a great group of guys and gals on VHF, and pushing the limits of the band at my location. It's a blast.
 
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