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Dead Electrical Dudes No. 14

Philip Neidlinger (KA4KOE) on August 13, 2004
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This Month's Stiff: Sir John Ambrose Fleming

Entered Mortal Coil: 29 November 1849

Assumed Room Temperature: 18 April 1945

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“Sorry, it only flows one way.”

Receiving wireless signals in The “Good Ole' Days” was not an easy proposition. First, in order to generate any appreciable signal at the receiving end, your spark transmitter had to be tremendously powerful. Second, antennas were extremely large in order to extract every little bit of RF energy flashing through the ether and to be at least minimally efficient given the extremely low frequencies that the transmitter utilized. Why all the fuss? Well, consider that the state of the art at the time for radio detection consisted of a crude little gadget called a coherer. The induced voltage at the antenna would cause iron filings inside a glass tube to stick, or “cohere”, together a little bit, and electrical conduction would occur via external electrodes. After this cohesion took place, another gadget, a kludge, if you will, had to tap the tube to loosen the filings so another signal could be received. This “detector” didn't detect very well at all. The operator had to wear a cumbersome headset that was strapped on so tight it would almost make the poor chap's eyeballs pop out of his skull in order to silence every last bit of external noise. Remember, not only did the underpaid wireless operator have to keep from being annoyed by the boss, but the spark transmitter was both spectacular and LOUD. Often, the transmitter was in another room altogether. We're talking weak signal work here, folks. It's a wonder radio communication ever got off the ground in the first place. But, being unabashed capitalists as most inventors were, and still are, they just kept plugging away at the problem. Other detectors were tried utilizing various mineral substances and even electrolytic solutions, but the first really good detector was invented by this installment's dude, Sir John Ambrose Fleming.

John's first significant job consisted of working for the Edison Electric Light Company of London for a ten year period beginning in 1881. In 1883 he noticed a strange phenomenon inside the innards of common light bulbs. Carbon soot was being emitted by the filament and caused the bulbs to turn black with time. John inserted an electrode (what we now call a plate) inside in an effort to stop this undesired process. In further experiments he noted that a very small current flowed in the circuit when a positive voltage was applied to the plate. No current flowed when the voltage was negative in polarity. John applied an alternating voltage (Edison hated AC and didn't care for Tesla much either), and noted that only half of the voltage passed through. Voila! A Eureka moment, unfortunately, did not occur, as Fleming applied for a patent some time later in 1905. Ambrose called his gadget a thermionic valve. At the time of its conception, the detector was an invention waiting for an application. So, in essence, Fleming put his modified light bulb away in storage and apparently didn't think much of it until the boys down at Marconi's shop began making noise. Literally.

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One of Fleming's Glorified “Light Bulbs”

Since he was a long-time consultant for Marconi's wireless company, Fleming got together with the Maestro and divulged the secret of his new detector. Guglielmo was definitely interested, and found that the new thermionic valve worked wonderfully in radio receivers. The little light bulb started appearing in radio receivers all over the place, until a certain rogue by the name of Lee Deforest (See DED 9) messed up Fleming's happy state of affairs by inserting another wire into the light bulb, and then sued the Englishman to boot. Fortunately, Fleming won the court battle with a settlement in 1920, and the thermionic valve was declared a valid invention in its own right. However, the honeymoon was short as the cat's whisker detector was invented two years later. The little glowing light bulbs stayed in the radios, but now they were being used as amplifiers, and later, as oscillators.

In Fleming's later years he remained active in the burgeoning electronics field. John was also knighted in honor of his accomplishments. He remarried at the age of 84. John didn't die destitute or a broken man, but quietly as most of us would prefer. This Dude's story happily ended well.

Cheers.

Philip Neidlinger, PE

KA4KOE

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Dead Electrical Dudes No. 14  
by K3ESE on July 22, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
He's a dude.
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 14  
by K4JSR on July 22, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
He is a DUDE indeed! I guess this just another way of Philip Fleming us via the internet!
I have always wondered about just who opened the VALVE
on all of this Dude stuff.
Philip, I have a technical question for you;
Since all of these dudes are dead dudes, does that make them "COOL DUDES"?
And to you Lloyd, "DIT DIT!". :-D

Philip, if you keep up at this rate you will surely
"DUDENATE"! Then it will be KOE all over! There and
there and over there! :-0 Then how would we be able to "REDUDENATE EWE"? He asked sheepishly.
Baa Baa for now,
Cal K4JSR
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 14  
by KA4KOE on July 25, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Unfortunately, all good things will end eventually. I will run out of ground temperature bodies. Once we get to the bottom of the matter, we must anticipate where to go from there. I will try not to get into really obscure people in my quest for "fresh" dead dudes.

I am taking suggestions for a title of a live dudes series come that time when we run out of dead stiffs...

"These will be the days when we sit on the ground and talk sadly about the death of kings...."

This is a paraphrase. Does someone know which Shakespeare play it came from? I think it is Hamlet.
 
Notice  
by KA4KOE on July 26, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Dead Electrical Dudes are
© 2004 Philip Neidlinger
 
RE: Not ice  
by K4JSR on July 26, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
"This is a paraphrase. Does someone know which Shakespeare play it came from? I think it is Hamlet."

"To be or not to be..." --Shakespeare

"Do be do be do..." -- Frank Sinatra

I know it is not ice, but it is cool!

73, Cal K4JSR
Inane, Ga.
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 14  
by K4JSR on July 26, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Correction, Lloyd, ESE, he is a copyrighted dude! --
Dead or alive!
I guess it is well that "Old Blue Eyes" is departed as
well. He would have legal problems singing "Dude be
dude be dude"! :-0

73, Cal K4JSR
Dementia Praecox, Ga.
 
Previously seen on Eham?  
by KA4KOE on August 7, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Tnx Peter.

But I am afraid there must be some confusion. I haven't resubmitted any of the articles...they are all new when first seen on the front page. You may see an earlier version on the site que by punching in article numbers and find pages that weren't quite perfect when they were uploaded. Eham is like that. Once you upload they are there permanently unless Clinton deletes old ones to clean out files. I know that when I was a relatively newby to the quirks of uploading articles, there may have been five versions of a particular piece floating around, all in various states of disrepair, but the latest ones are the ones Clinton posted. Photos are particularly tricky when inserted into a Word document. Different versions of Word produce differing results. I am using the 2000 version and it gives the best results from this end.

Due to my writing style, I inevitably make a few mistakes and may re-upload an article after tweaking it a couple of days later. There is currently about a 2-3 week lag between when you submit an article and Clinton puts it up front, if of course, he likes it.

Anyway, just thought I'd add my 2.3439 cents worth to your question.
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 14  
by N9RGX on August 13, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
"Let us sit upon the grass and tell sad stories about the death of Kings.”
— Shakespeare (Richard II)

 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 14  
by WB2WIK on August 13, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Wow, this guy lived to be 96!

When he was born, the Dead Sea was probably just beginning to feel ill.

Good one.

WB2WIK/6
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 14  
by KC8VWM on August 13, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
The article brought back memories of the "coherer" for me. I remember as a youngster (even before I was officially a licensed ham) trying to make one of these in my garage at one time.

Here's the story...

I was an avid SWL, and quite often during the evening hours when HF propogation was best, I would go out to my corner of the garage to listen to the crackling sounds coming from the 12 inch speaker on my floor model Stromberg Carlson SW radio.

While I was sitting there waiting for the radio to warm up, I remember looking over and reaching the yellowed and dusty "electronics" book I kept beside my SW recieving station. I started reading about the coherer's design and carefully studied a very detailed drawing and description about it.

As I sat near the warm glow of the filament tubes of my wooden radio box in the dimly lit garage, I was intrigued and got excited and starting imagining about the prospect of communicating over the land and seas for great distances using this "coherer" device.

I suddenly shifted my focus from the book when my radio started crackling and getting louder. My SW radio started recieving signals. A strange Spanish sounding voice starting to blast from the big and bassy 12 inch speaker in the wooden box. I think it was Radio Cuba.

I started tuning the radio up the analog dial to the 40 meter band markings where CW operators were coming in very strong that evening. There were so many of them operating CW that it was very hard to pick a single one out to listen to. I didn't know Morse Code at the time, but I was fascinated by these strange signals and decided to try and build my own spark gap transmitter like the one the electronics book described.

As it turns out, I later went to "Allied" Radio Shack, bought a cheap CW key, (yes they actually used to sell these back in 1974) and wired it up to a buzzer and a 9 volt battery. I placed it on top of my SW reciever and every time I tapped the key, a loud blast came out of recievers 12 inch speaker. I tried to emulate what I was hearing in the form of dits and dahs with the buzzer I made... I don't know what I was sending at the time but it sure seemed like it was a lot of fun!

The rest is now history.

Thanks for the memories Philip...

73

Charles - KC8VWM
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 14  
by W0FM on August 13, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I always thought that, eventually, Philip would "cough up" some Flem here.

(sorry, couldn't resist it!)

Terry, WŘFM
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 14  
by KA5N on August 13, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Philip's cousin Earl Lemming invented the similar Lemming valve. Unfortunately it had no use in radio, but explains why lemmings run only INTO the sea.
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 14  
by K2WH on August 13, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
They aint' dudes...............

K2WH
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 14  
by KC8VWM on August 14, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Are too....

KC8VWM
 
Good Ole Phlegm......  
by KA4KOE on August 14, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Actually, I've been a bit under the weather recently, so my choice of Flem-ing was a no-brainer.

Feee-leeep
 
RE: Good Ole Phlegm......  
by K4JSR on August 14, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
KA5N said, "Philip's cousin Earl Lemming invented the similar Lemming valve. Unfortunately it had no use in radio, but explains why lemmings run only INTO the sea."
I guess all they had were "A" and "B" batteries but
no "SEA" batteries. So into the drink with no bias!
So much for Phlegmming the other posters. I guess we
will have to skewer this thread on a *SPIT* and put it
on the barbecue. Philip has access to better oysters
than these in Savannah! We should stop being so
"phlegmbouyant"!
I'll clam up now.

And Charles, I thought a "coherer" was when you had someone with you while listening to the raddio!

73, Cal K4JSR
Ker-haaawk, Ga.





 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 14  
by VU2WE on August 14, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Dude,
Where are "All the Young Dudes" ?

Mott
 
young dudes  
by KA4KOE on August 15, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
There aren't any. If they were young, they probably wouldn't be dead, but if you were dead a long time and died while young, would you still technically be young?

Then again, what about the old dudes who are young at heart? Does that qualify?

What does all of this mean anyway?
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 14  
by KI4BNH on August 16, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I got it Mott...

All revved up & no fuse to blow...
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 14  
by K4JSR on August 16, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I am gathering a huge assortment of Pink Yard
FLEMINGos to put into everybody's yard who has not
reponded to this thread. Say something so this won't
just be an idle thread!
Just one question before I go; Fleming discovered
Benzene, how about Valvoline for his new invention?

73, Cal K4JSR
Filament, Ga.
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 14  
by KA4KOE on August 16, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
....and Benzedrine for those bored out of their wits!!
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 14  
by K4JSR on August 16, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Who? Me? SNIFF! SNIFF!
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 14  
by K3CXG on August 17, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Philip, Cal and “Mott” - you guys need a checkup from the neck up. Either that, or a “valve” job. Too much “phlegming” on this site.

A man sat on his front porch and watched as a herd (pack, horde, gaggle) of lemmings ran past and hurled themselves off a nearby cliff. As they passed him, he grabbed one of the furry little varmints. “What I don’t understand”, asked the man, “ is why you lemmings hurl yourselves over the edge to your death.” The lemming replied, “What I don’t understand is why you humans don’t!”

So it ain’t Philosophy 101 - sue me!

Excelsior!

Mike K3CXG
Nonsequitur, MD

“I think we’re all Bozos on this bus...”
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 14  
by N3AIU on August 17, 2004 Mail this to a friend!

Back in the days of iron men and wooden radios ...

"As I sat near the warm glow of the filament tubes of my wooden radio box in the dimly lit garage, I was intrigued and got excited and starting imagining about the prospect of communicating over the land and seas for great distances using this "coherer" device."

Great stuff!

73, Nick N3AIU
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 14  
by K4JSR on August 17, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Mike, CXG, I had a valve job once, but decided that I
needed the blow-by when my other hamfest ambience
would fail! :-0

I did check into a mental institution once. They told
me that they only repaired brains, not make them!

73, Cal K4JSR
Dementia, Ga
 
Its Miller Time  
by KA4KOE on August 17, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
For you, Cal. Only thing is, you'll only get a Guinness from me.
 
RE: OH MY GUINNESS!  
by K4JSR on August 18, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
That is a rather STOUT offer, sir!
How about some good barbecue to go with that beer?

Man cannot live by beer alone. That is why drinking
buddies were created!

73, Cal K4JSR
Kneewalking, Ga.
 
RE: OH MY GUINNESS!  
by KE2IV on August 18, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Love to join you guys for that pint someday.

Getting back to the DED.

When I first read he'd remarried at 84 I figured some babe was taking him for his $$. You know - the goldigger and the geezer.

But checking up to the top I see he lived to be 96 or so! Guess he got the better part of that bargain. Whoopee!

Fleming is a fairly common name but wonder if he is related the the Flemings of London finance fame? And wasn't a Fleming up in Canada the discoverer of penicillin?

73,
George
KE2IV
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 14  
by WA2JJH on August 18, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I wish valve stuck for the word tube. Triode to be exact. It makes more sense when you explain electronics.
The variable valve of electrons. The flow rate controlled by a smaller flow of electrons on the grid. THE WATER VALVE ANALOGY MADE MY 12 YEAR OLD BRAIN
UNDERSTAND.

Too bad Flemming lungied up in 1945. If he lived till 48, he would have seen the solid state valve.
Bell labs wanted to call it the TRANS-RESISTOR. tRANS-Resistor. Transconductance comes to mind.

Yup Deforst was a piece of french poodle snot. He called his tube amp an audion or something like it. Then Deforest tried to rip off Armstrong on superegeneration.

I understand why my electronic-3 teacher forced us to read Man of High Fidelity. It showed me that inventors have to be carefull of the electronic robber barrons of the time.

K2WH....THEY R DUDES!

Glad he lived a long life. Too bad some tartlet tried to make him a sugar daddy.
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 14  
by WA2JJH on August 18, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
pHIL-n-cAL...gordon alles invented bezedrine for asthma relief! NOT our DED-o-the month.

A simple Benzene ring does not make for a CNS.

One must attach an amine group(NH-2)A phenol group must be connected by a single bond to the meta carbon in the benzene ring

amphetamine is short for alpha methyl phenlthylamine.

BENNIES are now banned in the US. Too many people would stroke out from it.

Nasty drug, that made people nasty!
Edison was a speed freak. That is how he put in those long hours in Menlo Park

The DEXTRO ISOMER is still perscibed for Narcolepsie, ADD, and ADHD.

 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 14  
by WA2JJH on August 18, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
For 10,000 bux, should the new ICOM-7800 have a built in coherer detector as an option.

As Charles VFW poined out in DED#i dont remember.
That the coherer was a crude A/D converter!

The weak demodulated tube diode signal would cause the metal filings to stick together. This completed a electic circuit to an old telegraph clacker.

Bet with modern materials and methods, you could create one that would turn a NE-555 CPO on and off as a function of the rectified(demoded) signal.

You could really simplify a CW receiver. No BFO,no audio amp for cw. It may make a direct conversion homebrew RX receive CW as well as a superhet!

Simple bandpass filter, VFO, coherer Ne-555 timer!
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 14  
by HF2PWA on August 19, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Did one of you claim that PHLEMMING was killed by choking on a "lungy" or a windpipe oyster!
That is really sick and a snotty thing to say!
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 14  
by HF2PWA on August 19, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
“I think we’re all Bozos on this bus...”
OK you may be right, you may be crazy!

Some wait for a bus that never comes!
Many ride way past their house QTH
To Some the bozo bus is always stuck in traffic!
Many cannot pay the fair.
many do not care.
Some get bozo mixed up with bosco. And you have the nerve to ask Bozo why he is wet with milk!

Have you not heard of milk chocolate Bosco. Oh your one of those Foxes U-bet people! For you there is no bus!

Get on the magic bus and dont make a fuss
Oh-La the magic bus!
 
Crazy bus  
by KA4KOE on August 19, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
You need to ask my bride Sheri about the kids on the "Crazy Bus". She's a psych nurse, btw.
 
Stuff  
by WB2WIK on August 19, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
"I'm Grateful for DEDs." - Jerry Garcia

Another great bio piece. Bravo!



 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 14  
by WA2JJH on August 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
The Greatfull DEDS?! Yes K2WH they are dudes and dudettes!

There is no proof that one is greatfull after they die.

However they dead no longer have to worry ever again about taxes! Ala-money, BPL, and 2M jammers.

2Meter Jam does not spread well on most pastry!

OK Philip, next time I am visiting my friend I will expect a keg waiting!
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 14  
by WA2JJH on August 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
HF2PWA: Wind pipe Oyster? OHHH...That is your word for
PHLEM. I get it. The LUNGIE has been around for many years. However the word LUNGIE was made popular by the TV show..."The SIMPSONS"

BTW: Regardless of anything you may have heard.

MAMA CASS of the MAMA'S and the PAPA'S, did not choke on a HAM sandwich!!! The HAM sandwich choke, I mean joke, circulated as truth for many years.
I aint California dreaming about this!
You should read PAPA JOHNS AUTO-BIOGRAPHY.(PAPA JOHN)


So no need to discuss much, just hop on the Bus Gus.

Kerowak, Casey, Burroughs, Ginsberg and Huncky, I think were on the original msgic bus.
Not sure of WHO or if the WHO took a ride on the OH-LA ....... magic bus!

Thanks for the flashback!
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 14  
by HAMDUDE on August 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
DUDE!!!
 
Tybee, Grouper Fingers, Killians  
by KA4KOE on August 21, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Cal, had some grouper fingers and spuds at Spanky's at Tybee Beach tonight with Miss Sheri. They didn't have any stout, so had to settle for a Killian's on tap. Not a bad dinner at all, at all.
 
RE: Tybee, Grouper Fingers, Killians  
by KF4VGX on August 22, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Tybee Beach ! Now ya done and gone made me Hungry.

I'll do a Google search on Tybee Beach .


 
RE: Tybee, Grouper Fingers, Killians  
by KF4VGX on August 22, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Spanky's Beachside 1606 Strand.
(912) 786-5520.
I'm gonna call and have lunch on Phil :)

live dudes will travel !

73 ;-)
 
RE: Tybee, Grouper Fingers, Killians  
by K4JSR on August 22, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Philip, I hope that those groupers were not any of the rock 'n roll groupers that follow musicians like
JJH was talking about!

Never Mind! My wife just told me that those were groupies, not groupers! Sigh! Life used to be so
simple when I was younger.

We have an excellent sea food joint in Athens called CW Williams. We will be eating there Monday evening.
Since August is my bride's birthday month, she gets
to eat free. :-) She will pig out on shrimp.
I shall delicately devour shrimp, crab, flounder,
oysters and anything else that doesn't try to eat me first! Unfortunarely they do not have any beer, so it
will be an iced tea night. But hey! We'll both be so
gut gorged that we won't see straight anyway!
There is another fresh seafood joint down the road in
Loganville that features Alaskan Crab legs until you burst your guts! Also a fresh seafood buffet.
We won't be starving to death around here, either.
Sure beats getting Carp-Cake sandwiches at Mickey D's, doesnt it?
Yours for better and more gut stuffing, 73,
Cal K4JSR Gourmand, Ga.
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 14  
by VU2WE on August 22, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Dude,
any BOOGALOO DUDES out there?

Mott
 
RE: Tybee, Grouper Fingers, Killians  
by KA4KOE on August 22, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
They got several Spanky's in Savannah. You shows up, I buys ya lunch.
 
Tybee Food  
by KA4KOE on August 23, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Sorry Cal, but any seafood place that far from the deep blue can't be the best. You have to be near the coast.

We'll eat at either Spanky's or The Breakfast Club next time youse guys are down here in Savannah.
 
RE: Tybee Food  
by K4JSR on August 24, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
But Feeeeeeeel-ep, (!) if what you say is true, then
the The Breakfast Club on Tybee Island *HAS* to be too
far from the mainland for the food to be the best!
The seafood joints up here, for those of us on the
famous "SEE FOOD" diet are only 8 hours away by truck
and less than an hour away by plane. Both [laces that I mentioned have their stuff trucked in and flown in daily. The only way the places down there could have
sea food any fresher would be to go catch it while you wait. We've both been in joints that take so long
to bring you your order that the idea may have some
unfortunate merit in it! The only thing missing in our sea food joints is the sea air and instant beach
ambience. However when sufficiently hungry for good
sea food, I will forego the preferred sea ambience for
instant gratification in a New York nano-second!
I've seen your belly, sir, and it looks like if you
can't be near the seafood you love, you love the seafood you are near! Touche! And try to deny what I just said! ;-P Speaking of food, it is lunch time!
Bye!
Cal K4JSR
 
RE: Tybee Food  
by KA4KOE on August 24, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
That hurts Cal. This old fencer can't get into his old tunic...the velcro just rips open when I exhale. So, do we buy a new one and hope we lose weight?
 
RE: Tybee Food  
by K4JSR on August 26, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Philip, Milton once said , He also serves who stands
and weights". Or something silly like that!
Just remember that when that Velcro busts open that it
is merely adding a new dimension to the phrase "Let her RIP"!
Ha! Clean throw! Ippon!

73, Cal K4JSR
Seefood, Ga.

 
September  
by KA4KOE on August 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Dead Electrical Dudes are Coming to This Week in Amateur Radio this Fall.
 
LAST  
by KA4KOE on October 19, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I am aghast, so now I'm at least last.
Send me not a fat lass with a case of gas.

All will come to pass, Cal don't be an ass.
Alas dear friends, does he favor Mama Cass?

I will not post in a huff.
My comments will not be rough.

I will not post it as a bit of spam,
I do not like green eggs and ham.

I will not eat them while on the band,
I will not eat them with bare hands.

I do not like them while writing dudes,
Even with company, oh so rude.

So here at last, I have in hand,
A can of WW2 vintage canned spam.

So open up, mix it up with yams,
OH, I DO like green eggs and ham.

And no, my name is NOT Sam.
 
RE: LAST  
by K4JSR on October 28, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
You, Philip are not last. It is my blast.
Your name may not be Sam,
Your name may not be Emeril,
But you can take it from this guy, Carroll
>>>>>>>>>BAM!<<<<<<<<<<
I am not a stop band filter, but I just kicked up being last a NOTCH! So go drink that with your
aqua pura and Scotch!

HEE! HEE!
 
Nope, I'm last, but this is important  
by KA4KOE on October 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Dead Electrical Dudes are
© 2004 Philip Neidlinger
 
RE: Nope, I'm last, but this is important  
by K4JSR on June 25, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
This is more important; BELCH!
Ah! Now I feel better!
 
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