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All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location

Bill Crowell (N6AYJ) on August 31, 2004
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At a certain point in every ham's career, he gets tired of following all those boring rules in Part 97 and wants to let it all hang out. Of course, it can be embarrassing to have the FCC enforcement van pull up in front of your house and an FCC official demand to inspect your station just when you were going to get snuggly with the XYL. That's why every ham needs a Secret Jamming Location ("S.J.L.").

With a little creativity, you can put your S.J.L. just about anywhere you've got 110 volts and room for a wire. The best equipment to use in your S.J.L. is your old stuff that you were going to sell anyway. After all, you wouldn't get much for it if you did sell it, and using it in an S.J.L. will give you priceless release!

It's not necessary to run high power at your S.J.L. Many such stations-away-from-home have been very successful even though they ran QRP. The most important thing is to locate your S.J.L. someplace where the F.C.C. is not likely to go. Your grandmother's bedroom is an excellent choice. In the unlikely event that the F.C.C. drives up, tell your grandmother to go in her bedroom and yell "rape!" if the Commission tries to enter. That one works every time!

Another good place to locate your S.J.L. is in a hog pen. Well, it's not really such a good place for your S.J.L., but it certainly does get interesting if the Commission tries to inspect your station.

One of my most successful S.J.L.'s was in the yard of my parents' mean German shepherd. Although the F.C.C. inspector did have cojones sufficient to enter the dog's yard, he didn't have them for long.

With a little thought and preparation, you will be able to spend many, relaxing hours operating your S.J.L. station without fear of molestation and unconcerned about those pesky F.C.C. regulations. Then, when you are ready to shoulder the burden of complying with all those dumb rules, you can return to your regular shack and nobody will be any the wiser. Give it a try!

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All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by KK7JK on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
S.J.L., right on Billy.
My SJL is located in a warped shed, ready to collapse, even on myself. FCC Agent injured in collapsed shed, good.

No need for SJL when listening to illegals operating on 10 meters, let it rip with all the wattage possible.

 
All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by N4ZOU on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I always wondered why the FCC allowded automatic Pactor stations to come up and jam on going QSO's between Ham's just wanting to have a nice chat!
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by KA4KOE on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
OH BOY,

This is going to be an interesting discussion.....
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by W8JI on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Are the editors of E-ham sure this is tounge in cheek??? I can't understand why an article like this is published on E-ham!


From the ARRL Website:


DIAMOND SPRINGS, CA: The FCC wrote Advanced licensee William F. Crowell, N6AYJ, on August 21, 2000, citing monitoring information before the Commission alleging that the licensee may have engaged in deliberate interference to other amateur operations on 75 meters over the last several months. "This interference consists of unsolicited and unwanted comments and responses to the ongoing communications," wrote FCC Special Counsel for Amateur Radio Enforcement Riley Hollingsworth. "Such communications have occurred even though your transmissions were not acknowledged and in some cases even after you were requested to refrain from doing so." Hollingsworth noted that he'd spoken with Crowell earlier this year regarding this matter and that Crowell had told him problems with the other operators had been resolved and that Crowell assured him he "would stop such attempts at forcing communications with the other stations." Hollingsworth said such conduct "degrades the Amateur Radio Service for legitimate communications, is contrary to 97.1 and is considered deliberate interference." He requested that Crowell reply within 20 days stating "what actions you are taking to eliminate this type of interference."
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by BUFFOON on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
This is quite the testament to the mentality of the likes of 'AYJ!
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by N6AYJ on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
W8JI: but Tom, you forgot to mention that, after I wrote Riley Hollywood my 27-page diatribe telling him to go "blank" himself, he did absolutely nothing to follow up on his warning notice. This proves that the original warning notice was nothing but an exercise in "trial by press release". If we all set up SJL's, it would have the added advantage of actually giving Riley something to do besides sending out his form letter warning notices, permit him to save a lot of money on Vaselene, and give his right hand a well-deserved rest.
 
All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by SWANMAN on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
ATTN: Technicians

See...yet ANOTHER reason to learn the code and become
a 'real ham!'
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by KI7YY on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
What pointless drivel. If my day were not so boring...
Sheesh...get a life!
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by N8VCL on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
That was dumb. I want my 2 minutes back.
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by K1CJS on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Hey Swanman, didn't you see that AYJ suggested setting up a SJL in the pigsty? Now if you could get the pig to operate the rig (!) you would have a REAL HAM! As far as anybody being a real ham, if you got a ticket--YOU ARE! I won't go any furthur than that.
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by K1CJS on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Aw Bill, just tell those naesayers to go soak their face. We all need a little release now and then. Good article! Especially the examples of where to set up the SJL!
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by W6TH on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!


Good article! Especially the examples of where to set up the SJL! Need more of this.

My reason for being a cw man.

Life must go on, so be it. My thanks go to W8JI.
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by W7DJM on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
moron
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by N6AYJ on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
It has been pointed out to me that I made a big mistake in my response to Tom, W8JI, and I want to apologize to Riley Hollywood for it. It turns out that he is left-handed, not right-handed, and my statement that his right hand deserved a rest made his left hand very jealous of his right. While I think it is perfectly OK to joke around about ham radio, even I draw the line at upsetting a fellow ham's domestic tranquilty. Sorry, Mr. Hollywood!
 
All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by W4VR on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Keep this up Crowell and the FCC will come running after you with that jar of petroleum jelly!
 
All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by N8UW on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
In the Army, I was a Morse Intercept Operator, MOS code 05H. We were called hogs. The bay where us hogs worked was, of course, the hog pen. I am offended, jamming was done by an entirely different MOS, 98J's mostly, who didn't even know Morse.
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by N6AYJ on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
W4VR: hey, let them try! That would be great! I would like nothing better than to kick Riley Hollywood's butt before an FCC Administrative Law Judge and make some good ham radio law in the process. And don't say I have never done anything for amateur radio. After I pointed out the inherent unfairness of expecting hams to respond to secret allegations against them, with the threat of charging them with a separate violation of the Communications Act if they were not "candid" in their response, Mr. Hollywood was forced to start sending copies of the complaints or tapes to those receiving warning notices, so at least they would know what they were supposed to be "candid" about.
 
All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by KU4UV on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Well, for what it's worth here's my two cents. You are a crybaby who seems to think the FCC owes you an apology or something because you messed up on the air and got spanked by Riley Hollingsworth. I can't believe eham even lets posts like this through. Filter out the crap posts like this and maybe then I will consider sending in my money and subscribing to your web site. Otherwise, forget it!
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by N6AYJ on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
KU4UV: Wrong. I'm the one who kicked Hollywood's butt, and I'll do it again if he ever tries any more of his "stuff" on me. He did nothing to me. I'm still the A-1 operator I always was, still very active on the bands, and still retain all of my license privileges. So how do you figure that he "spanked" me?
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by N6AJR on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
seems there are two sides to all opinions.. hmmmm

BTW, my secret jamming station was always on an aircraft, B52 G, F 100 D, F 4C, F 105.. etc,, I worked in ther electronics repair section in the Air Force in electronic countermeasures and we relly knew how to jam .. shhhh secrets.. ever heard of a wild weasel? 73 tom
 
All Hams Need is a Sense of Humor  
by K4RAF on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Bill seems to have stomped on a nerve of the "professional amateurs" in our midst.

I would not be surprised to discover a few have forwarded this article to Riley Coyote's already overstuffed complaint box, claiming Bill is somehow "promoting jamming". Nonsense...

Reading the enfarcement logs, there was no jammer shortage before this article appeared. The FCC has even failed to keep a California repeater jammer from being a habitual offender so affected hams cemented his water meter closed in an attempt to convince him to behave better. That's funny too...

What part of "tongue in cheek" (read LAUGHTER) don't you guys understand?
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by N6AYJ on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
"BE A VIGILANTE: JAM A JAMMER AND THAT'S NOT JAMMING": Riley Hollywood's words to the 2000 Convention of the ARRL Southwestern Division were as follows:
"In a lot of these [enforcement] cases, we found that amateurs were out there engaged in malicious interference and jamming because we [the Commission] weren't [doing any enforcement] for 10 years. And let's face it - the Commission was missing in action for those 10 years. A lot of people out there [i.e., the vigilante stations jamming to "enforce the Rules" in the Commission's absence] are long-time licensees and they were going to save the amateur radio service if we weren't going to. They weren't going to let the jammers prevail, SO WE COULDN'T SEE MOVING IN AND MAKING A BROAD SWEEP OF REVOCATION PROCEEDINGS AND TAKING A LOT OF LICENSES FROM PEOPLE WHO, IN THEIR MIND, WERE OUT THERE SAVING THE BAND BECAUSE WE WEREN'T." [emphasis supplied]
So if you're a "good" amateur (one of whom Mr. Hollywood approves) it's OK to jam, but if you're a "bad" amateur (one whom Mr. Hollywood dislikes) then the Commission is going to rip off your license if you jam. Typical B.S. from this man. The full text of his extremely self-serving speech is available at http://www.wr6wr.com/articles/features/longbeach.html
 
RE: All Hams Need is a Sense of Humor  
by K1CJS on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Apparantly, everybody is, at times, devoid of a sense of humor. To those who read this as a serious article, lighten up! There's always room for humor--just like theres always room for jell-o!
 
All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location ... right  
by VE7AZC on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Outstandingly entertaining ... thanks Billy. We gotta have some fun once in awhile. I am amused but not too suprised at the prudish and self righteous response of some of the readers, wanting to prohibit a bit of fun. The "word police" ... next they'll be the "thought police".

I don't think it's fair to mock Riley's personal habit's publicly, though, especially so graphically. Kid's might be reading this stuff, and after all, it's not his fault he was dropped at birth.

It would be a duller world without you. Here's to QLF.

H
 
All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by WA2JJH on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Geeshh, you guys are paranoid!

I do not see a need to keep the fact I make my own Jams and jellies....a secret!!!!!
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by W9GRN on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
yawn.Life as usual.These threads are getting pretty lame anymore.
 
All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by WA2JJH on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
OHHHHHHHH...That kind. I guess the caves BIN Laddin uses's.
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by WIRELESS on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
What ever happened to the guy who used to say "class A operators only, no kids, no lids, no space cadets"?
 
All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by W7WIK on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
You might think your post is funny, but... get a life.
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location ... ri  
by WILLY on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
by W8JI on August 31, 2004

"
Are the editors of E-ham sure this is tounge in cheek??? I can't understand why an article like this is published on E-ham!


From the ARRL Website:


DIAMOND SPRINGS, CA: The FCC wrote Advanced licensee William F. Crowell, N6AYJ, on August 21, 2000, citing monitoring information before the Commission alleging that the licensee may have engaged in deliberate interference to other amateur operations on 75 meters over the last several months. "


hahahahha This is too funny. Tnx for posting this. It was news to me.

Although I do not believe his post here is meant to seriously promote jamming, I do wonder if it was merely meant for its humor only. Some time ago, he all but admitted that he was trolling. Perhaps this post of his is more along that line - just trying to stir things up - with an excellent cover of humor.
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by AB5XZ on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Bill's 'tongue in cheek' article is funny to some, I suppose, but note that he's using it as a lead-in to justify his (reported) obnoxious behavior on the air. The First Amendment doesn't give him a *right* to transmit, but the Communications Act gives him the *rights and privileges* of a licensee.

I'd much rather see Bill doing something constructive, like writing an article for a ham mag, or designing a better DSP algorithm. What he's doing here is, at best, neutrally annoying. At worst, it is just driving another nail in the coffin of amateur radio. Garbage like Bill's has a habit of getting dug up at inopportune times (as when hams are trying to get something done about CC&Rs).

73Tom
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by KG6AMW on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Definition of secret jamming location; dummy load.
 
All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by KE4ZHN on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Best time to fire up your SJL would be on a contest weekend. Then again...who would notice them in the insuing chaos anyway?
 
All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by G0GQK on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Another one smokin' whacky baccy !
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by G3VGR on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Utter drivel. After reading his profile, I get the impression this bloke is definitely no asset to the hobby
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by KB2RJH on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
ATTN: Technicians

See...yet ANOTHER reason to learn the code and become
a 'real ham!'

Swanboy your an idiot STFU real ham what a joke any idiot with a ticket can be a ham.
 
All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by W3ZV on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
The best response to this is no response.
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by KC8VWM on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Perhaps the real jamming issue here is being demonstrated in this forum by the very fact that this article was written... ?!

I must be thinking too hard today...

Bring on more Dead Electrical Dudes... Dude!!


... Now back to your regularly scheduled message forum.


Charles - KC8 something, something, or other...
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by NN6EE on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Give'em Hell Uncle Billy (N6AYJ)!!!

Bravo!!!
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by NN6EE on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
PS!

All you other self-righteous individuals who accuse other guys out here for "name-calling" ought be ashamed of yourselves as well!!!

Incredibly hypocritical!!!

:-(((
 
All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by SWANMAN on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
"ATTN: Technicians

See...yet ANOTHER reason to learn the code and become
a 'real ham!'

Swanboy your an idiot STFU real ham what a joke any idiot with a ticket can be a ham."

Mr. KB2RJH,
Seems you've taken my comment out of context as I
was trying to use reverse psychology. In other words
if this behaviour is what Techs have to look forward
too when they upgrade, why promote?
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by K4RAF on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Definitive Secret Jamming Signal = a G5RV@SJL !!!!
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by WB2NVY on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
What ever happened to the guy who used to say "class A operators only, no kids, no lids, no space cadets"?

Ahhh, memories of W2OY. He became SK in the '60s. He also didn't like "schoolbus riders" nor "whiskey bravos". I was both.
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by GILLIAM_LINEBERRY_EX_N4VOX on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Riley Hollingsworth is a very patient person. He has time on his side. When it comes to stupidity vs patience, patience wins every time. No doubt, we will read another letter in the future from RH. What a joy it will be to read.

Gill
 
All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by W4JFR on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
OK, let's take this one step further.

The idea that "At a certain point in every ham's career, he gets tired of following all those boring rules in Part 97 and wants to let it all hang out" could be rewritten for the mass population as "at a certain point in every human's life, he gets tired of following all those boring laws and wants to let it all hangout." Secretly, he plots how he will:

-- evade his income taxes
-- rob a local convenience store
--plagiarize a best selling book
-- kill his next door neighbor

So...how do you like my "tongue in cheek?"
Not so funny...rather, just plain absurd and irreponsible. Certainly, not entertaining at all.

Note to eHam.net editors: don't publish this type of junk anymore. In fact, remove this one today.

Jim, W4JFR
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by NN6EE on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
N4VOX,

Riley does'nt have time on his side!!!

With the proliferation of OKEE-DOKEE CBers on 10/12/and 15 meters that boy (RH) is losing the WAR!!! What those "DORKS"/CBers want is "homesteading rights" and ROLEY-BOY is losing his grip!!!
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by OLDFART13 on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
by KK7JK on August 31, 2004
>>>>S.J.L., right on Billy.
My SJL is located in a warped shed, ready to collapse, even on myself. FCC Agent injured in collapsed shed, good.
No need for SJL when listening to illegals operating on 10 meters, let it rip with all the wattage possible.<<<<<

Hey Wally, you changed your callsign again.?! Geez you blankhead, how many times have you changed your callsign in the past couple of years??? Why didn't you like your PIG callsign? Hey do you have your walleys whinning wall back up?


 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by N6AYJ on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Bring it on. I'm quaking in my boots.
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by KT0DD on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Way to Go Billy, Listen to ya lots on the 3.840 bunch. Keep having fun with em on here. I always love it when someone turns the screws on the crochety old mossbacks on here. Catch ya on the HF. 73

"Stop the Curmudgeon Wave"
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by AE6QF on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Ah, now W2OY wuz a real jammer! There was actually a US House of Reps bill ordering the FCC to not renew W2OY's ham ticket! It had pretty fair support, but it never made it outa committee. During my high school daze, I once met W2OY at W2FHS's shack.

For the teeny-weenies out there, Google "W2OY" for some background info.

73, Quiet Finger
 
All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by GOODBUDDY on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Yeah most of us have heard old Billy Boy's behavior on 3840. A fine example of how to harass and interfere with on going QSO's. The echo effects were nice Billy.
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by N6AYJ on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Yeah, GOODBUDDY, but how did you like Bilitzniklick the Martian (who gave Art Bell a ride in his flying saucer) and The Creature from the Black Slacks Lagoon (who swam across the ham bands looking for YL's)? I thought they were even better than the reverb! Although I was told the reverb did make me sound a lot like Elvis (and I can still wiggle my hips like him, too, which isn't too bad for an old guy). Man, that Behringer DSP-2024 digital audio processor is a fantastic unit. And perfectly legal under Part 97! Ham radio sure is a great hobby because everybody can do his own thing. Have a great day!
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by WILLY on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
by KB2RJH on August 31, 2004
" ATTN: Technicians

See...yet ANOTHER reason to learn the code and become
a 'real ham!'

Swanboy your an idiot STFU real ham what a joke any idiot with a ticket can be a ham. "


KB2RJH,
For what it is worth, at http://www.qrz.com/detail/KB2RJH

you license appears as expired on Aug 9, 2004.
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by WILLY on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
by KT0DD on August 31, 2004

"Way to Go Billy, Listen to ya lots on the 3.840 bunch. Keep having fun with em on here. I always love it when someone turns the screws on the crochety old mossbacks on here. Catch ya on the HF. 73 "


Oh, so you think he is just trolling too?
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by KT0DD on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Well well, first there was "Billy", and now we have "Willy".....
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by KA4KOE on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
"Bring on more Dead Electrical Dudes... Dude!!


... Now back to your regularly scheduled message forum.


Charles - KC8 something, something, or other..."

Why thank you Charles, thats most kind. Right now, however, my primary concern is getting my fanny, my wife's fanny, and my two crumb crunchers' fannies on the road late Thursday for the weekend. Savannah may not be a good place for Labor Day Weekend. I do have 5 MP3's recorded for TWIAR, so we're good til January, at the rate of them broadcasting one DED per month.

Pray for us here and all along the Florida coast.

Feee-leeeep
 
All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by W4JFR on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
eHam.net--a suggestion. Why not start a new web site titled eCB.net? It would be a huge success--just look at many of the responses to this fine work of prose. You already have a great start with this article alone.

You would be doing a real service to the ham community by providing these wannabes with a true place of their own to spit chewing tobacco and sharpen their profane ways.

What a wonderful new opportunity. Just think of the feature opportunities for the web site:

-- My channal nine memaries
-- My leest intallijant QSO (you could even turn that one into a contest each year)
-- Ask the non-Xperts (subtitled, how I boosted my favorite amplifier to 4 kw in just one evening)
-- Speakout (Oh, be sure to watch out for that one)
-- Reviews (just dispense with 1 through 4 ratings--everything gets a 5; I think)
-- classyfides (a legal place to get that bigger amp that you always wanted).
-- Elektrawnics theorie and praktace (well, maybe not)

W4JFR





 
All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by W4JFR on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I just thought that perhaps each of you would like to see something of the character of the author of the article.

Here is the email I just received. I would suspect that I am not the only one with which he is communicating:

Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 20:18:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Bill Crowell" <bcrowell@excite.com> Add To Address Book
Subject: Billy can tell-a-phony
To: rinehart@troyst.edu

So 'JFR, I read your flatulent ventilation on eham.net today and looked up your bio. A professor of political science?? You've got to be kidding! Listen, loser, I majored in poli sci at U.C. Berkeley before I went to law school, and there's one thing I learned about poli sci professors: what a bunch of bullshit artists. If you don't know enough history to teach history, and you can't write well enough to teach English, you become a poli sci professor! Listen, you probably aren't smart enough to realize it, but you really shouldn't tell people you're a poli sci professor. Everybody knows they're a bunch of idiots who can't make it in any other field. Just thought you might want to know. Assuming, of course, that you can handle the truth. Which, from the looks of things, you can't. Have a nice day! Bill Crowell, N6AYJ

 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by K0RFD on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Shoot, he's gone off his meds again.
 
All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by W4JFR on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Sadly, there are no meds sufficient to deal with these problems.

Guess the article wasn't "tongue in cheek" after all. More like "psychopathic foot in mouth."

Jim Rinehart, W4JFR
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by N6AYJ on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
My goodness, 'JFR, I wrote to you confidentially so as not to embarrass you unduly. You must be a complete masochist to post my email on here in public. It just confirms what I told you: poli sci professors are all B.S. artists. Plus, in your case, you're a B.S. artist with no common sense.
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by N1VLQ on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Sigh.

It's a shame that some very bright folks can't seem to act like reasonable human beings....

 
All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by W4JFR on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Don't flatter yourself by thinking that you can embarrass anyone here.

By the way, all e-mails are public documents; they are never confidential.

Jim
 
All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by WA2JJH on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
jAMS, I got apple, peach, strawberry, all schmuckers brand of course!

Cal promised me his roadkill jam recipe.
High in protein, low carbs.

Does head cheese make the list as a jam?

OK seriously, A jamming local must be black helicoter proof. Milstar proof. computer aided tomography, Xray satel imaging.

Dang...lotsa helicopters buzzing around, must be the convention.

Time to put on my tin foil hat!!!!

 
All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by WA2JJH on August 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Ah yes. The famouse 2 lander. cq,cq,cq no lids, kids or space cadets.

He is long gone. SK
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by KC8LWV on September 1, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Wild Weasels? Jars of vaseline?? Sounds kinda painful, Jeeez....
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by KL7IPV on September 1, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
After this one, discussion about the cage antenna makes sense.
 
All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by KG5JJ on September 1, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Secret Jamming Location? No good, an oxymoron to be sure.

If you're transmitting, you might as well have a red target painted on you. The simple act of just keying your transmitter on CW sends a "special" RF signature that may be used to trace interference to a specific transmitter.

HF propagation won't save your bacon either. Surveillance has been high-tech for quite a while now. They don't call it "Star Wars" for nothing.

Give it up.

73 KG5JJ (Mike)
 
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by AH6RR on September 1, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
So what's all this got to do with a fan dipole? Is what I want to know!!!!
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by WIRELESS on September 1, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
This thread reminds me of another guy who used to be in trouble with the FCC. I think his call was W3PHL. He claims he figured out a way to legally run a transmitter that had 1kw of carrier modulated with 20 KW of audio. Never heard what happened to him either.
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by K3ESE on September 1, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
IMHO, posting any private email without permission is about as low as a scumsucker can go.
 
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by K4RAF on September 1, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
"Surveillance has been high-tech for quite a while now. They don't call it "Star Wars" for nothing."

You must be joking. Is that why so few ham jammers are actually "caught"?

You are clearly mixing military satellite SIGINT "surveillance" with much lower level FCC "direction finding". HFDF is a little used farce, even after they "networked" all the DF sites but closed FCC field offices all over the country.

 
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by WILLY on September 1, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
by KT0DD on August 31, 2004

"Well well, first there was "Billy", and now we have "Willy"..... "

I don't know what this reply is apropos of, but no matter.

You forgot to answer the question though.
 
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by AB5XZ on September 1, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Somebody, PLEASE contact Bill Crowell, Esq., N6AYJ, and warn him that some *nutcase* is using his name and callsign to stir up the ham-rabble on eHam.net.
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by NN6EE on September 1, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Threads like this one are what the INTERNET and eHam are all about!!!

Folks it's called "ENTERTAINMENT!!!"

Great postings Boys!!!

Jim/ee
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by KK7JK on September 1, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Well, I read some of my FRIENDS are here posting.

OLDFART13, heck, I still have 3 more calls I can ask for that were assigned to me many decades ago.
No, haven't had a Wally Whinning Wall in quite sometime.
If you all are real nice I can get another one, just a Wall for Whinners, OK?
BTW, some old Geezer kicked me off qrz.com, no loss to me at all.
Perhaps eHam hasn't all the crap qrz.com has but, I beleieve eHam is better, more refreshing.

Speaking of jamming, I interfer with the illegals operating on 10 meters all the time, from my Warped Shed, ready to collapse but, comfortable.

EE, Jim, haven't heard on the airwaves, what's up?

This morning I finished installing a nice wire aerial fed with my own made open-wire line, 3.775 to 29.600.
Johnson-Viking MatchBox, the best there is, no lights, no colored lights, no meter, just 3 NOBS. Too boxey for the in-crowd hams today.

OLDFART13, Billy, Jim 73.
CU on 75 or 80m.
 
All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by LEGALLIMITPLUS on September 1, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Too Cool........

But if you are going to jam, do it right.
you just got to run HIGH POWER!!!!
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by KC8VWM on September 1, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
KA4KOE says,

"Right now, however, my primary concern is getting
my fanny, my wife's fanny, and my two crumb crunchers' fannies on the road late Thursday for the weekend."

Sounds like a plan... Have fun. Not sure where you are headed, but stay away from Disneyland... or any where in Florida for that matter...

73

Charles - KC8VWM


Feee-leeeep

P.S.
(Was that a repeater coutesy tone or your name?) :)

 
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by AG4RC on September 2, 2004 Mail this to a friend!

Once a QRMr always a QRMr

A leopard doesnt change its spots!

...And now for something completely different:

http://www.pythonline.com/plugs/idle/FCCSong.mp3

(I claim no responsibility for the lyrics; listen at your own risk. . .)

73 - Peter
 
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by KT0DD on September 2, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Quote: by "Willy"
>>"Well well, first there was "Billy", and now we have "Willy"..... "

I don't know what this reply is apropos of, but no matter.

You forgot to answer the question though

Man, you are Slick..."Willy" Yeah, that's it, from now on It's "SLICK WILLY"... My apologies to the Clinton family...:)73.
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by K7CD on September 2, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Make room

How can your life be filled with joy if that joy has no room to reside in you?

How can your days be filled with happiness if that happiness is squeezed out by other concerns?

Make room for joy and it will come. Make room for happiness and it will be there.

Cast out the anger and spite. Let go of the worry and anxiety. Let the envy and resentment dissolve into nothing. Leave the dismay and discouragement behind.

Clean out the old, negative patterns of thought. Make room for plenty of love, plenty of joy, happiness and fulfillment.

Get rid of the mental junk you never really wanted, and certainly do not need now.

Make some room to truly live.

-- Ralph Marston

 
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by WILLY on September 2, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
by KT0DD on September 2, 2004

" Quote: by "Willy"
>>"Well well, first there was "Billy", and now we have "Willy"..... "

I don't know what this reply is apropos of, but no matter.

You forgot to answer the question though

Man, you are Slick..."Willy" Yeah, that's it, from now on It's "SLICK WILLY"... My apologies to the Clinton family...:)73. "


Even though your comments about me are irrelevant, you are entitled to your opinion, although it is up to you to decide if it is proper to express it.

Again, you didn't answer the question. So you must be avoiding it. Perhaps that in itself speaks to the question.
 
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by KB1GHC on September 2, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
i agree! fight fire with fire :-D
 
All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by N9ESH on September 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I have a not-so-secret speed trap in Kansas City that I would dearly love to jam. 24Ghz Hmmm. Any ideas?
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by KT0DD on September 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Slick WILLY Wrote:
"Again, you didn't answer the question. So you must be avoiding it. Perhaps that in itself speaks to the question."

The format of the question you wish me to answer is the same as the old sucker questions such as, "If jack helped you off a horse, would you help Jack... etc. I wasn't dropped off a turnip truck yesterday... :)

As someone recently told me...You don't have to attend every fight you're invited to. I choose not to accept your invitation. Time to move along now. 73.
 
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by WILLY on September 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
by KT0DD on September 3, 2004

"Slick WILLY Wrote:
"Again, you didn't answer the question. So you must be avoiding it. Perhaps that in itself speaks to the question."

The format of the question you wish me to answer "

was : Oh, so you think he is just trolling too?


"is the same as the old sucker questions such as, "If jack helped you off a horse, would you help Jack... etc. "

Obviously, it was not. There was no qualifying 'if', nor was it a joke.
A simple yes or no would have sufficed.


"I wasn't dropped off a turnip truck yesterday... :)"

I wouldn't know. I can only access and draw conclusions from what I read here.


"As someone recently told me...You don't have to attend every fight you're invited to. I choose not to accept your invitation."

You find a simple question for clarification to be a threat to fight? Be assured, it was not. It was just as it appeared - it was a question.


" Time to move along now. 73. "

If you were going to dance all around, and never continue with the discussion, it would have been much better for you to have simply said so from the beginning.
 
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by KT0DD on September 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Quote By Slick "Willy":
>I wouldn't know. I can only access and draw conclusions from what I read here.

Actually, you need to rephrase that statement from conclusions to "Assumptions", as you have little or no factual knowledge about me. Are you actually W9WHE? The infamous J. Gunn? Your styles are quite similar. If you are really so self-absorbed that you must always have the last word, and pick apart other people's posts, Then the new topic I am about to create in the "Site Talk" forum will interest you. 73.
 
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by N2WEC on September 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
N6AYJ,

N6AYJ, please show at least some of the intellect you claim to have. You are one of the most rude and ridicules pieces of humanity in here. If narcisism was a sport, you would be a professional. Same for ignorance. Give it a rest, grow-up, take your ball (RF) and go home, get an education then have a talk with your Mommy. Maybe then we might like to hear from you.
 
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by OBSERVER on September 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I'm shocked that our buddy Dr. spinmister hasn't chimed in to provide details on the mulitudes of SJL's he's built over the past four decades. His latest is a 7200v, ungrounded SJL with no SWR meter that operates 160m - 70cm flawlessley.

This article is pointless and shows you how many of our lawyers think in this country. I hope that Riley finds something else to nail this guy with.

Observer "the troll" - spin doctor in training.
 
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by W4YBP on September 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Now here is a guy who knows what he is talking about!

Seems that someone actually needs his Mommy to aim his wittle antenna at his wittle birdy.

There is something about vanity calls & using ones' initials that needs to be studied. I think it leads to weeniness.

I think that Bill has forgot more than alot of you have ever known. Especially the ones who can't use their callsigns but get off on a power trip trying to get someone hung by the FCC for posting humor on a website.
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by W3LOW on September 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
N6AYJ=Lack of Oxygen

Eham: Get a life.

W3LOW
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by KT0DD on September 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
>There is something about vanity calls & using ones' initials that needs to be studied. I think it leads to weeniness.

Actually, it's quite an economical move. When I get my Vanity license plates for my car, I kill 2 birds with one stone. My call and my name both for the same fee. I call that being fiscally smart. If you call it weenieness, oh well, you're entitled to your "opinion"...FWIW...
 
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by K7CD on September 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Intolerance is the last defense of the insecure...
 
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by WILLY on September 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
by KT0DD on September 3, 2004

"
Quote By Slick "Willy":
>I wouldn't know. I can only access and draw conclusions from what I read here.

Actually, you need to rephrase that statement from conclusions to "Assumptions", "


No. Conclusions, just like I said.
What conclusions are you referring? I said "I wouldn't know".



"as you have little or no factual knowledge about me. "

Correct. I already made this clear.


"Are you actually W9WHE? The infamous J. Gunn? "

Who?


"Your styles are quite similar. If you are really so self-absorbed that you must always have the last word,"

You 'assume' that I'm self-absorbed?


"and pick apart other people's posts,"

Quoting for clarity is not picking apart. Extracting part of the text without acknowledging the rest of the post can be considered to be picking apart.


" Then the new topic I am about to create in the "Site Talk" forum will interest you. 73 "


Thank you for the invitation.
 
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by K8CPA on September 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Lemmie tell you something about "Tongue-in-Cheek" okay?

It almost cost me my license.

A while back, (Dec 2003) I got into a pissin' match with a idiot on QRZ.COM. and basically I tried the same thing with a ham on there. Well some stupid assed "radio cop" from Flordia sent a part of a message, he deemed a "death threat" to Riley Hollingsworth. I was able to explain to riley that were was no threat intended. and I apologized for my actions. I'd be REAL careful on what I post on the Internet using my ham callsign... because IT CAN reflect on your qualifications to own and operate an Amateur Radio Station! and Yes, Riley did tell me that! there will a public notice coming out soon to this effect!

So, a word to the wise, watch what you say!

73

-Chuck K8CPA

...-.- ..

P.S. I am not getting out of Ham Radio, But I am going to be alot more careful what I say and do ON the AIR and OFF THE AIR!

 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by K8CPA on September 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
and by the way, this threat was sent to riley hollingswoth's e-mail address... If I gotta pay the piper, everyone does... end of story.

-Chuck K8CPA

 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by K8CPA on September 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
whoops make that THREAD... not Threat. Ooops!

K8CPA

-Chuck

 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by N6AYJ on September 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Thanks for the interesting reply, Chuck. You raise a couple of interesting points. In order to revoke an amateur's license during its term, the Commission has to prove an actual rules violation, which is a difficult burden of proof and one which Riley Hollywood was obviously unable to sustain in my case, since he wimped out and refused to take me to a hearing before an FCC Administrative Law Judge. But the burden of proof for non-renewal of an amateur license, just as in the case of non-renewal of a commercial broadcast license, is somewhat easier for the Commission to meet. In the case of a non-renewal, the Communications Act would have it that the Commission must only prove that renewal of the license would not meet the "public interest, convenience or necessity." Now at first blush it would appear that such language would permit the Commission to refuse to renew an amateur's license for little or no reason, but thankfully the commercial broadcast station non-renewal cases have fleshed out this bare language from the Communications Act and have established the proposition that the Commission must prove "substantial wrongdoing" (although not necessarily an actual rules violation) on the part of the licensee to support its burden of proof in a non-renewal case. Furthermore, the "substantial wrongdoing" doctrine applies "a fortiori" (even more strongly) to an amateur case because commercial radio is remunerative in nature while amateur radio is, by its very nature and definition, non-commercial and non-remunerative, which means that amateurs have even greater free-speech rights than commercial broadcasters have. So, Chuck, while I greatly appreciate your helpful sentiments expressed in your post, I state again that I would actually welcome an attempt by Mr. Hollywood to deny renewal of my license when it expires in 2007 because I would greatly enjoy the opportunity to take him to a hearing before an FCC Administrative Law Judge and, if necessary, appeal the case to the FCC Review Board and the 2nd Circuit Federal Court of Appeals in order to establish a legal precedent protecting the rights of all amateurs from Mr. Hollywood's arbitrary and capricious behavior and to prevent the Commission from abusing its discretion in the manner it has become notorious for doing. 73 and good DX, Chuck, from Bill Crowell, N6AYJ
 
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by KC9GGV on September 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Here is the character of the author. Draw your own conclusions. From the ARRL web site.

DIAMOND SPRINGS, CA: The FCC wrote Advanced licensee William F. Crowell, N6AYJ, on August 21, 2000, citing monitoring information before the Commission alleging that the licensee may have engaged in deliberate interference to other amateur operations on 75 meters over the last several months. "This interference consists of unsolicited and unwanted comments and responses to the ongoing communications," wrote FCC Special Counsel for Amateur Radio Enforcement Riley Hollingsworth. "Such communications have occurred even though your transmissions were not acknowledged and in some cases even after you were requested to refrain from doing so." Hollingsworth noted that he'd spoken with Crowell earlier this year regarding this matter and that Crowell had told him problems with the other operators had been resolved and that Crowell assured him he "would stop such attempts at forcing communications with the other stations." Hollingsworth said such conduct "degrades the Amateur Radio Service for legitimate communications, is contrary to 97.1 and is considered deliberate interference." He requested that Crowell reply within 20 days stating "what actions you are taking to eliminate this type of interference."

DIAMOND SPRINGS, CA [UPDATE]: The FCC wrote Advanced licensee William F. Crowell, N6AYJ, on November 28, 2000, following up on an August 21, 2000, Warning Notice issued to Crowell that concerned alleged deliberate interference on 75 meters. Crowell had replied on August 31, 2000, with a lengthy letter to FCC Special Counsel for Amateur Radio Enforcement Riley Hollingsworth. "Your response was not only irrelevant to the issue concerning interference, but frivolous as well," Hollingsworth wrote back. "You are again cautioned that imaginary, make-believe or fictitious conversation with communications in progress constitutes interference and degrades the service for legitimate users." Hollingsworth suggested that Crowell review 97.1 of the FCC rules, which outlines the basis and purpose of the Amateur Service.

KC9GGV
 
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by N1VLQ on September 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Doing something simply because you can "get away with it" smacks to me of behavior in common with juvenielle deliquents. Vandalism. Bullying. Defying the autorities. Openly.

Bragging about that fact is even worse.

I've been trying to teach my ten year old about these sorts of character traits. I find it amazing that we have to deal with the same issues in amateur radio.

Just my opinion, which is worth exactly what you paid for it.

 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by N6AYJ on September 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
KC9GGV: Did you read the previous posts on this thread? This is old news, which has already been discussed and refuted. If Riley Hollywood actually thought I had violated Part 97, why didn't he take me to a hearing before an ALJ after I told him to piss up a stump? Answer: (1) there was no Part 97 violation and (2)Hollywood has no balls. You really should read the thread before posting nonsensical, repetitious material. 73, OM
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by N6AYJ on September 4, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
N1VLQ: I am afraid that you are laboring under a major misconception about amateur radio law. (I won't dwell on your misspellings, because perhaps they were typos, but even assuming that you do know how to spell the words "juvenile" and "authorities", you should proofread your posts more carefully.) Your mistake is in thinking that Riley Hollywood has any legal authority. He doesn't. He is just an FCC bureaucrat. Not only have his opinions on the state of Part 97 law often been proven to be wrong (remember the "phonetics fiasco" and "jam a jammer, that's not jamming"?), but his opinions are entitled to no more weight than yours or mine. It is the FCC Administrative Law Judges, the FCC Review Board and the U.S. federal courts that decide what Part 97 law is, not Mr. Hollywood. So my disagreements with Mr. Hollywood no more show "disrespect for authority" than do my disagreements with you. Indeed, I have shown myself to be much more knowledgable about Part 97 law than Mr. Hollywood is. His lack of knowledge stems from the facts that he attended a "second-tier" law school that apparently afforded him a rather deficient legal education, he had absolutely no background in Part 97 law before the ARRL hand-picked him for his position, and he arrogantly and conceitedly assumed that he had nothing to learn about Part 97 when he started churning out his form-letter warning notices. So, in fact, OM, I am the "authority" about Part 97 law, at least in comparison to Mr. Hollywood, because I have a much better legal education than he does and I studied Part 97 law for years before Mr. Hollywood ever even read Part 97 for the first time. Therefore, he is the one who's "disrespecting authority" because he is disrespecting me. Have a nice day, and CU on the bands.
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by KN6Z on September 4, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
W4JFR:

I read your book. Liked it.
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by N1VLQ on September 4, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
My deepest apologies concerning my lack of proofreading. I won't sully your thread with my poor spelling any longer. I guess that after a 12 hour workday, late in the evening, I'm expected to show better grammatical work, since you obviously expect it. And this is all about you, isn't it? And what you think, right? You obviously know better than the FCC regarding amateur radio, so a violation of spelling rules on an internet thread is now your agenda?

As for the argument itself, I can see you certainly know better than everyone else, so I bow to your superior intellect.

I refuse to be drawn into this any more than I already have. Grow up.
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by K7CD on September 4, 2004 Mail this to a friend!

Passionate hatred can give meaning and purpose to an empty life. -- Eric Hoffer


 
All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by WA2JJH on September 4, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
You cannot make cucumbers out of pickles!
 
All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by N8KL on September 4, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Can any of you guys guess my secret jamming location? As backround, I have been a ham for 41 years. From about 1984 to 2001 I lived in a trailer park in Sunnyvale, CA, and enjoyed "relations" with all the famous hams in the Bay Area. But sad to say, this didn't include Billy. This wasn't from lack of trying on my part however. In 2001 I packed my bags and hired this goofy guy I met on the bus to drive me to Kentucky. I remember stopping at some Whorehouse in Nevada and that's the last thing I remember till we got to Louisville! The main reason I left California was because of Riley Holingsworth. Ham radio just isn't any fun any more since he came on the scene!
 
All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by VU2WE on September 4, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Billy Billy Billy BahRooh, Dude, you sound just like a crybaby California Lawyer who doesn't get enough attention from their significant other. Whew!
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by N6AYJ on September 4, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
VU2WE: Wow, it is really great that you can psychoanalyze someone from their mere recitation of amateur radio law! Are you a psychiatrist? Me, neither. But that won't stop me from diagnosing you as a psychologically-ill dogmatic "true believer". Have a nice day, and good luck in the contest!
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by N6AYJ on September 4, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
N1VLQ: Sorry if I came across as a "know-it-all". I'm not, of course. It's just that it's hard not to appear that way by comparison to Tsarina Hollywood because she knows so little. Everything is relative, you know.
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by N6AYJ on September 4, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
FCC Special Counsel for Amateur Radio Enforcement Riley Hollingsworth says he was just trying to see if the amateur community was paying attention when he suggested on his recent Radio Amateur Information Network enforcement news report (http://www.rainreport.com) that the use of phonetics during station identification was contrary to the amateur rules.

As Hollingsworth has since conceded, after being challenged from several quarters, the applicable FCC station ID rule--97.119(b)(2)--specifically encourages "use of a standard phonetic alphabet as an aid for correct station identification" [emphasis added].

"I plead temporary insanity," Hollingsworth told the ARRL. "I was working too close to my antennas the evening before."

Sorry, Tsarina Hollywood. We know your insanity is permanent, not temporary!

 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by KK7JK on September 4, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
CU on 3.845 + or -, Billy.
I'm waiting for the pallets of OO cards on my conduct with illegals operating on 10 meters.
It's just wonderful.
 
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by WD40 on September 4, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Wow! Finally somebody who makes sense. A breath of fresh air best describes N6AYJ. Thank you eHam for allowing freedom of speech even though it may not be in the interest of all readers, Billy's comments are certainly thought provoking to say the least! Bravo!
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by AB5XZ on September 4, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
N6AYJ shoots his mouth off (figuratively) and sasses the FCC because he gets free legal representation, not like the rest of us. Of course, you know what they say about a lawyer who represents himself.

73
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by N6AYJ on September 4, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
AB5XZ: Well, OM, representing myself has worked so far, and by doing so I have been able to establish precedents, and have forced Tsarina Hollywood to change his procedures, in ways that inure to the benefit of ALL amateurs, not just myself. So I really don't understand what you're complaining about. Do you ALWAYS bite the hand that feeds you? Do you ALWAYS play the ingrate? Would you like to receive a warning notice from Tsarina Hollywood that says you have to reply in a candid fashion or be found guilty of violating the Communications Act, but doesn't tell you what you're supposed to be candid about? If not, then you have ME to thank for it! Come on, fella, don't talk nonsense! You know darned well that no ham, not even me, is going to hire high-priced attorneys in Washington, D.C. to represent them in F.C.C. proceedings over a mere hobby. So you're really setting up a straw man with your post. EVERYONE is forced to appear in propria persona in amateur F.C.C. proceedings because they can't afford to do otherwise. That's precisely why Tsarina Hollywood has been able to distort the true meaning of Part 97 and take unfair advantage of amateurs who have little legal knowledge. In California, when lawyers do that to unrepresented parties we call it "engaging in sharp practices" and the lawyer gets disciplined by the state bar. What your post really amounts to is that you want to bend over, grease yourself up, and let the Commission have its way with you, and that you're going to object if someone tries to stop them from doing so. God, you're dumb!
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by K1OU on September 5, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
And Bill, you are enhancing your credibility with name calling and ad hominem attacks.
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by N6AYJ on September 5, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
K1OU: Sorry, OM, but a fool's a fool. The emperor has no clothes.
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by K1OU on September 5, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
N6AYJ: Sorry OM, but regardless of your history, your article is incredibly unfunny.
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by AB5XZ on September 5, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
N6AYJ: Can't you take a joke? Geez. Go jam someboody. You'll feel better for it.

73.
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by WD40 on September 5, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
AB5XZ : What do they call a lawyer who represents himself? I'm just dying to hear your answer.
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by KF4VGX on September 5, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I just did a jam session with there or four non hams!

We played old songs like Waylon , and Willie and The Boys
The Froggy Bottom Boyz. A man of constant sorrow

An yes it is a secret place ,we sound horrible!
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by W3LOW on September 6, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
N6AYJ=Lack of Oxygen

Eham: Get a life.

W3LOW
 
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by AE6QF on September 6, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Oh dear! Yup, fun guys they are: W4JFR, W3LOW, & WD0M....they all have VANITY callsigns..

73, Quiet Finger
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by N6AYJ on September 6, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
AD0M: I'm really sorry to hear about your constricted anal sphincter, and I hope you feel better soon.
 
Beer  
by KA4KOE on September 6, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I need a beer. Anyone care to join me?
 
All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by WA2JJH on September 6, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
GOOD CALL PHILIP(KA4KOE)...IT'S MILLER TIME!!!!!!
 
All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by WA2JJH on September 6, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
tONGUE IN CHEEK.........HMMMMMMMM

I THINK I NEED RECONSTRUCTIVE SURGURY. I will need a skin graft, madible graft, bucal cavity grafts(which cheek?) Glossal nerve damage. Cranial nerve damage.

on old tiny tops, anybody remember that trick for remembering the cranial nerves?

There is tongue in check. There is also tongue causing cheek trauma.

All was said with Tongue in cheek!!!!


OK Philip your expense account will cover all the beer, right?

I blew my expense account on milk duds. milk dead dudes!

 
All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by WA2JJH on September 6, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Just barrow a YF-34. It will do mach one with no afterburner. EA-6 prowler is not to shabby either.
SR-74...cannot use Jet-A above 60,000 feet.

Best method is to fake your own death, and blame it on Kevin Mitnick in the suicide note.
 
All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by WA2JJH on September 6, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
The road less traveled to hell is filled with good intentions.

The devils living room is filled with honerable mentions!

Man who taketh in homeless whores
wake up next morning minus platinum cards
and yeah..he be on all fours.

So before you let your sentiments roam........
remember that some of your charity money maybe skimmed off for a pedophile priest near you home!

Some will say we are in our final days
Choose a doomsday group with multiple 401K's

Yes, you can have your tongue in cheek, you can also turn to the other cheek. You will either have grace or an awefully red face.



 
Hey Wally!!!  
by OLDFART13 on September 7, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Well, it has been interesting reading since I was bored. But seriously, great to hear ole WALLY out there. Hey WALLY start posting on the http://www.hamsexy.com/ forum page.
 
All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by N0FP on September 7, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
A question for Bill (N6AYJ)

Apparently you think it is OK to jump into QSOs taking place on the radio, even though you have no real 'content' to add. From the looks of the negative posts regarding your past experiences with Riley, this appears to be somewhat of a hobby of yours.

I am just curious, what is it about your activities that you find appealing? And what exactly is it that you do to generate such negative press?

Ford-N0FP
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by N6AYJ on September 7, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
N0FP: What you fail to comprehend, sir, is that I am simply uninterested in your opinion of whether or not I have so-called "content" to add to a QSO. I am not required to fulfill your expectations of QSO "content"; I have no desire to fulfill your expectations in that regard; and I very seldom do anything which I am not required and do not desire to do. A better question would be: why do you think you have the right to dictate what other people can discuss in a QSO? Your claim to have that right is obviously not grounded in Part 97, so where do you get off claiming to have that right, and who do I have to be to say that you do not have that right? Face it, 'FP, you are a would-be petty dictator who wants to determine what other people can say on the ham radio. I don't play that game. I just ignore people like you. Have a nice day, though!
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by N0FP on September 7, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
You ignore people like me? You responded. That appears to be far from 'ignorance.' You seem to be bitter about my curiosity as your response is somewhat caustic.

I just asked a simple question. There are lots of people on the air that contribute to QSOs by exhibiting peculiar mannerisms. I have run into jammers casting rather unintelligent carriers on top of QSOs. Is this an activity that engenders some sort of 'joy?' For a long time I have been curious as to why people do this. Is it fun?

That's it. A simple question. "Is it fun?"

Ford-N0FP
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by VU2WE on September 7, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
This guy AYJ is one of those relativistic comparison people, you know the new culture. In his book there is no right or wrong. There are no moral absolutes that is why any thought of an authority is put up to ridicule by him.
Of course he will reply caustically, he needs to defer the attention off him onto anyone or thing else.
He also will not answer any direct question but attacks the questioner, again shifting the attention back to someone else.
It's like that guy a few years back when asked by a someone a question that contained the word 'is' in the sentence. His reply did not answer the question and he then stated "well it depends on what the definition of 'is' is".
They're here!

Namoste, Sri Klaus
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by N6AYJ on September 7, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
N0FP, I would just like to ask you a simple question. There are lots of hams on the air who engage in onanism. I have run into many stations who engage in this practice while participating in QSOs. Is this an activity that engenders some sort of "joy"? For a long time I have been curious as to why people do this. While I certainly do not mean to suggest that you indulge in this activity, perhaps you would know the answer to the question: Is it fun?

That's it. A simple question. "Is it fun?" Please answer as soon as possible. Thank you.

 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by N6AYJ on September 7, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
"This guy AYJ is one of those relativistic comparison people, you know the new culture. In his book there is no right or wrong." - VU2WE

Absolutely incorrect, OM. I am a moral absolutist, not a moral relativist, as you claim. My criterion for what is acceptable behavior on the ham bands is Part 97. If a given activity is prohibited by Part 97, I avoid engaging in it. If, however, an activity is permissible under Part 97, then it must be OK. You, my friend, are the "moral relativist". You disapprove of activity which is permissible under Part 97; you want to impose your own personal standards and requirements which are not contained in Part 97; and you engage in ad hominem attacks against people who don't comply with your arbitrary, personal standards. Furthermore, you don't have enough self-knowledge to even understand what you are doing. I feel sorry for you. You will probably never figure out your problems. You just don't have enough insight.
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by N0FP on September 7, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I don't find your humor (i.e. editing my question using vulgar and offensive language and intentionally attributing it to me) even remotely humorous.

Having never engaged in jamming or any other harrassing behavior, I cannot say whether it is fun or not, which is why I asked YOU the question. I didn't write the article, you did.

I have seen documentaries and magazine articles describing the antics of idiot savants. Their preoccupation with things like music, memorizing numbers, and art, are somewhat understandable. But why an idiot savant would choose to become fixated on legal subtleties of Part 97, and to exercise this understanding as an expression of personal freedom, is beyond belief.

Ford-N0FP

 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by VU2WE on September 7, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
"Well, there you go again" as Ronnie would say.
Nine times you attacked your questioner.
As I wrote previously "He also will not answer any direct question but attacks the questioner, again shifting the attention back to someone else. "

Dude you're doing an "absolutely" incredible job of proving my point.

Keep it up!

Namoste - Sri Klaus
 
BURRRRP!!!  
by KA4KOE on September 7, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I think he's just wound too tight. My prescription is that he down a few beers.

LAST CALL FOR ALCOHOL!!!!

Make mine a Guinness, serving wench!!!

 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by N6AYJ on September 7, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
V2WE: I know you are, but what am I?
 
RE: BURRRRP!!!  
by N6AYJ on September 7, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
KA4KOE: different highs for different guys. But thanks for the thought.
 
AYJ  
by KC9DPV on September 7, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
AYJ--You sound like some politicians. Never proves a point incorrect, just tries to point out the weakness in the opponent. I personally think you are vandalizing the hobby with this writing about a S.J.L. I also see that 2 FCC enforcement letters were written to you concerning jamming. If they caught you, how could your location be secret??? If you want to annoy someone with your jamming go to 11 meter. YOU CAN RUN BUT YOU CAN'T HIDE. THE ONLY PERSON YOU CAN HIDE FROM IS YOURSELF

73 all DE KC9DPV
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by KK6SM on September 8, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Funny or not, we should not give the "would be" hams the wrong idea of our hobby. Jamming is wrong, even if someone is being a jerk, it is a violation to jam them. Lets all do our part to show that we still have the discipline to self-regulate this respectable hobby.
 
RE: AYJ  
by N6AYJ on September 8, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
KC9DPV: Brett, if your local District Attorney charged you with a crime, and you attended your arraignment in order to plead "not guilty", at which time the D.A. dismissed the case against you, how would you like it if I told everyone in your community that you had been found guilty? Well, that is exactly what your post amounts to. You should be ashamed of yourself for disparaging a fellow amateur in this way when you are so obviously uninformed about the status of the proceedings.
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by N6AYJ on September 8, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
KK6SM: Jim, jamming is NOT wrong! My authority for saying so is none other than Riley Hollywood himself. He has given special dispensation to his friends to jam stations of which he doesn't approve and, as we all know, Mr. Hollywood is the ultimate arbiter of the meaning of Part 97. He has informed several stations, in writing, that it is OK to jam other stations whom they feel are violating Part 97, while conveniently overlooking Sec. 97.113(b), which prohibits one-way transmissions. So please be consistent in your approach: if you are going to comdemn me for condoning jamming, then condemn Mr. Hollywood, too. Any other position represents base hypocrisy. Thanks for reading!
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by K1OU on September 8, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Hey Bill, do yourself and everybody else a favor and go buy a hooker.
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by N6AYJ on September 8, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
K1OU: What a brilliant riposte, Jerry! Did you think it up all by yourself?
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by N6AYJ on September 8, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
JAM A JAMMER AND THAT'S NOT JAMMING [and don't worry about complying with Sec. 97.113(b) - Riley Hollywood says you don't need to!]

Here's a copy of the email that Riley Hollywood sent to K3FT on November 7, 2003:

"Yes, it's very important to use Ten Meters and run them off. Unlicensed stations have no rights.

They have to be talked over, tested over, anything to get a signal on top of them to run them off.

There can be no rule violations when a licensed station jams an unlicensed, because the unlicensed has no status with us.

You folks ought to patrol ten all the time and strike back when unlicensed stations are on.

The whole point is to make the use of ten Meters by unlicensed stations a pain in the butt to them, so they go somewhere else."

Of course, there is the little matter of Sec. 97.113(b)'s prohibition against one-way transmissions which, on its face, would seem to apply to jamming for any reason, whether the "jammee" is licensed or not. But Tsarina Hollywood has the right to make the law say what he wants it to, right?? Oh, oh, you don't think this is another example of Mr. Hollywood simply not understanding Part 97's requirements - like in the "phonetics fiasco" - do you?
 
All Hams Need To Become Crypto-Anarchists  
by HERTZ on September 8, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Do I sense the stench of crypto-anarchism in this discussion?
 
RE: All Hams Need To Become Crypto-Anarchists  
by N6AYJ on September 8, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
HERTZ, if anybody is an anarchist it is Riley Hollywood because he is the one who ignores the law.

Since inquiring minds would like to know why Tsarina Hollywood sent me my warning notice, let me tell you about another "crypto-anarchist": K6UEY, the guy who complained about me to Mr. Hollywood and caused him to issue it. Here is a post from 'UEY on QRZ.COM, in which he summarized his view of the situation:

I ran the "Voices In the Night" group on 3830 for about 12 years, the last 4 years having to put up with Billie trying to disrupt the group. He used all sorts of ploys using CB echo boxes and having the conversation over the top, even ignoring him did not work he would comment as though he was part of the group.

I would like to raise several questions about 'UEY's post:

1. How do you "run" a roundtable QSO? Was there an election to see who would run it? Gee, I must have missed it.

2. I don't have a "CB echo box". Can anybody tell me what that is? I would like to buy one. It sounds like fun.

3. "Having a conversation over the top"?? Isn't that the same thing as "doubling"? It happens all the time. Why would that be my fault, any more than it is the fault of the other station(s) who unintentionally double unless, of course, you are trying to trump up spurious charges against another station because he had the AUDACITY to join the roundtable QSO that you were allegedly "Running"?

4. Let's see now, if I decide that I am "running" a roundtable QSO, does that mean I thereby become exempt from Sec. 97.101(b), which states that "Each station licensee and each control operator must cooperate in selecting transmitting channels and in making the most effective use of the amateur service frequencies. No frequency will be assigned for the exclusive use of any station", and that I can therefore determine who is permitted to use the frequency and who is not? Tsarina Hollingsworth apparently thinks so.

So you're barking up the wrong tree with your "crypto-anarchist" allegations. I'm the only one who wants to see ALL of Part 97 enforced, unlike the "crypto-anarchists" such as Tsarina Hollywood and Orv Dalton, K6URY, who only want to follow the sections of Part 97 that they find convenient.
 
Crypto-Anarchists for Ham Radio  
by HERTZ on September 8, 2004 Mail this to a friend!

N6AYJ wrote: "So you're barking up the wrong tree with your "crypto-anarchist" allegations."

Hmmm, I did not bark, I only wrote a brief comment. Dogs and similar creatures bark. Sometimes they make other sounds too! Interesting creatures, dogs, aren't they?

As for me, well, I was writing using a keyboard connected to a device some people like to refer to as a "PC". Anyhow, I can always try to bark, only if it pleases you of course, although I don't find it very natural for humans to bark, much less at trees---as the trees rarely bark back.

N6AYJ wrote: "I'm the only one who wants to see ALL of Part 97 enforced,..."

No, not really. Plenty of people want to see all of Part 97 enforced, as well as higher laws, the U.S. Constitution, some version of natural law and even an interpretation of divine law.

Have you heard of the Ten Commandments? Do you observe the Ten Commandments? I ask only because I sense a strange *rage* in your words... when you write, it just sounds like you are really, really upset about something, like there's a heavy weight on your shoulders, like some internal demon is pounding your heart and your soul, like Hades off-shored all operations right to your head.

Perhaps forgiveness would help heal your wounds? How about moving on? Have you tried scuba diving or climbing? Perhaps you just love the attention you're getting here, in this chatroom! In any case, there's plenty of things to do that would help release that tension and exorcize the presence of Osmodai in your soul...

At any rate, please read these Ten Commandments:


1. Thou shalt not use a computer to harm other people.

2. Thou shalt not interfere with other people's computer work.

3. Thou shalt not snoop around in other people's files.

4. Thou shalt not use a computer to steal.

5. Thou shalt not use a computer to bear false witness.

6. Thou shalt not use or copy software for which you have not paid.

7. Thou shalt not use other people's computer resources without authorization.

8. Thou shalt not appropriate other people's intellectual output.

9. Thou shalt think about the social consequences of the program you write.

10. Thou shalt use a computer in ways that show consideration and respect.

Enjoy, Have a Nice Day and May the Almighty Bless You!


Hertz .:
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by WD0M on September 8, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
The "Articles" manager as well as the eHam manager ought to realize that this has gone WAY beyond "Tongue in cheek" (see the title at the top) humor. I sent a note to the eHam gang asking for my "supporting" member funds back if they allow such personal attacks and retributions....
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by N6AYJ on September 8, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
WD0M: Oh, I get it: you can dish it out, but you can't take it. OK!

HOLLYWOOD: HEY, LET'S CONCOCT AN "INTENTIONAL INTERFERENCE" CASE AGAINST N6AYJ!

Here's a copy of the email that Tsarina Hollywood sent to KD7BCW on January 14, 2003:

"It would be difficult if not impossible to take an effective enforcement action against him (N6AYJ) because of the fact that you can ignore him. (sic!)

Now if you turn it back to each other fast enough so that when he comes in, he's doing it on top of you, that's different."

Now do you understand Tsarina Hollywood's technique? Manufacture a case against a licensee you don't like by falsely making it appear that he is jamming, and then send him a warning notice.

Sorry to "burst your bubble" about the Tsarina, but I tried to tell you.

 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by N0FP on September 8, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
WD0M I hate to bring this up, but the editors on eHam are eating this up! They love controversy and the odd nuts amongst us who are willing to open their mouths so everybody can make fun of them--like our former friend Bill here.

I say 'former' because until he opened his mouth, spewed his hate, distorted facts to support his own twisted position, and misquoted a number of people, I could have easily considered him a friend as I do every other ham. But this guy is way over the top.

And lawyers wonder why people hate lawyers.
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by K2WH on September 8, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
"Apparantly, everybody is, at times, devoid of a sense of humor. To those who read this as a serious article, lighten up! There's always room for humor--just like theres always room for jell-o!"

Sorry,

AYJ's history indicates he eithe will or actually does this stuff. Lawyers; always think they are better than others and will always try to push the envelope to see if they can get away with it.

Better yet, erase this whole stupid thread and get AYJ a suppository.

K2WH
 
RE: N6AYJ's Obsession  
by K2WH on September 8, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I have casually followed this squabble between AYJ and Riley in the past years. I have come to the conclusion that AYJ is totally obsessed with Riley and as a minimum, would like to see Riley stood up and shot by firing squad.

The man (AYJ) is relentless and cannot be pacified. Why not just move on AYJ. Didn't you ever get a traffic ticket you didn't feel you deserved? Did you hound the cop who issued it forever? Give it a break or get a life.

WHY AM I EVEN COMMENTING HERE............ GRRRRR!!!

Just my 2 cents.

K2WH


 
Who's the one "distorting facts & spewing  
by N6AYJ on September 8, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
N0FP: Ford, talk is cheap and so are personal attacks. Why don't you specify whom I've misquoted? Why don't you name the precise facts I've distorted? You can't, because everything I've said is true, and you know it! Your problem is that I'm upsetting your cherished faith in Tsarina Hollywood, and you just don't want to face the truth about him because you prefer to continue living in your Pollyanna dream world. If I'm wrong, then give us the particulars. But if you don't, then you stand before the ham radio community, exposed as a manure bag.
 
All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by HAMDUDE on September 8, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
While it appears Bill has stepped on a few toes, he does make some valid points. Hollingsworth sends warning letters to so called "rule breakers" based only on accusations from other amateurs. This is WRONG! All it takes is one disgruntled idiot who, for whatever reason doesnt like you, to cause you undue trouble explaining to RH that the charges are false or trumped up by someone with a personal grudge. In many cases, Riley doesnt even bother to find out if this is true until after the fact. Under this system, anyone can turn in anybody with or without grounds! Kind of reminds me of SS policies back in WW2. Or the way the Russian system worked during communism with their KGB goon squads. True or false, all you had to be was accused and you were in for trouble!

The FCC cannot expect amateurs to police themselves without inviting some fraud. This works to a degree, but it will never be 100%. Look at the VE program, what a joke! Just imagine how many licenses were bought that havent been discovered by the FCC. While the majority of amateurs are good people, theres always rotten apples in the bunch. One person could submit numerous complaints to Hollingsworth and never even be on the air! After all, how would Riley know since he acts only on emails and letters? Anyone with a PC could digitally edit a tape and create a false one as well. The person submitting the complaints doesnt even have to know the amateur he turns in to cause them problems. Does this sound like a fair policy?

The only way the FCC will ever be fair about this, is to go back to monitoring the bands themselves and forget lame OO`s and taking the word of amateurs alone. This leaves the door wide open for false complaints and other charges to be flung about simply for some to cause trouble for others. The FCC needs impartial monitoring stations like it once had to avoid facts being twisted into lies. If the FCC feels self policing works so effectively, then why dont we throw away police forces and let the citizens police themselves too? Oh boy! Imagine the anarchy! If the FCC is so underfunded (I find this very hard to believe) that this isnt possible, then it is in fact a paper tiger and all but useless in enforcement matters. If Riley didnt hear the actual on air violation or hear a tape recorded by commision officals who are impartial, then how can he be expected to be fair about making a decision? Thats like expecting a judge to rule by only hearing the prosecutions side of the case! Guilty before proven innocent may work for commies and third world countries, but I would expect the opposite from the good ole US of A!
 
RE: Who's the one "distorting facts & spe  
by N0FP on September 8, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Manure bag? Geez Bill... Can't you be a bit more original? But I'm glad you provided everybody with your definition of a manure bag for the entire ham radio community. I think there are quite a few people interested in getting a mental picture of your shack.

You misquoted me for one. Early on 9/7, you intentionally used vulgar and profane language as you edited a quote you attributed to me. I would clip it here but those interested can review my posts and your responses, rather than having to read it here again.

Discussing things people say, or write, out of context, like the fiasco you describe with Riley discussing the situation where legitimate QSOs on 10M cause problems for the 10M bandits, are absolutely inappropriate without also giving the reader an opportunity to understand the whole text and the context within which the statement was made. Intentional editing of something you attribute to be a quote is beyond rude and inconsiderate. Bill, this is a vile and evil action...

I believe your arguments are nothing less than capricious. You are arguing out of both sides of your mouth. On the one hand, you are bitter that Riley confronted your activities with a query demanding your response. On the other hand, you attack Riley for not doing enough to clean up the bands. Pick a side Bill. If we are going to argue, you are going to have to pick a side.

What I have experienced in my personal and professional life is that when an individual is unable to defend their arguments with solid evidence, they often retreat to the use of vulgar, profane, and abusive language. I can see from your actions right here on eHam that lies and bitter arguments are not beneath your methods either. I now seriously question whether ANY of the quotes you attribute to Riley have also been edited, by you, in a vain attempt to breath life into your straw man.

Please provide link to access to a credible web site that documents your claims. And to use your methods:
N6AYJ: But if you don't, then you stand before the ham radio community, exposed as a manure bag.

Bill, when you live in a manure bag, even deoderant will not help you. Have a great life. Do yourself and the rest of us a favor, get over it.

73

Ford-N0FP

 
RE: Who's the one "distorting facts & spe  
by N0FP on September 8, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Bill-N6AYJ, I a thought experiment for you...

If you were in a bar, talking to a Peace Officer, and the officer said "You can drive 10 MPH faster than the posted speed limit and that's OK." And you proceed to interpret the officer's words as the law and get a speeding ticket for 10 MPH over the posted limit, what do you suppose the judge would say when you argue "But officer so-and-so said it was OK to drive 10 MPH over the speed limit." Nothing! Your argument would be without merit. Why? Because the Peace Officer was not interpreting the law correctly when he made the statement. And the Peace Officer's words are not the law.

So when you interpret Riley's alleged statement that said "Jamming is OK," and then you proceed to begin jamming and causing confusion on our ham bands, what do you suppose the judge would say when you presented Riley's alleged statement as evidence? Nothing... Because Riley's words are not the law. Part 97 is the law.

Ford-N0FP


 
RE: Who's the one "distorting facts & spe  
by N6AYJ on September 8, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
FORD, YOU'RE A LIAR:

YOU SAY: "You misquoted me for one. Early on 9/7, you intentionally used vulgar and profane language as you edited a quote you attributed to me."

ABSOLUTELY UNTRUE: I didn't quote you, and I didn't claim to quote you, in that post. Anybody with half a brain (that excludes you) can see that by simply reading it. My, you're desperate!

YOU SAY: "Discussing things people say, or write, out of context, like the fiasco you describe with Riley discussing the situation where legitimate QSOs on 10M cause problems for the 10M bandits.."

ABSOLUTELY UNTRUE: I didn't quote the Tsarina out of context, and he was not advocating "legitimmate QSO's." The quote I selected accurately expressed his true sentiments on the subject. He was indeed advocating that hams engage in one-way transmissions to "jam the jammers". That is plain from his statement. Don't try to distort the plain meaning of his words. By trying to do so, you insult the intelligence of your fellow hams.

YOU SAY: "Bill, this is a vile and evil action..."

UNTRUE AGAIN: I quoted him fairly. You have entirely failed to point out how my quotations were "unfair". YOU'RE the one engaging in "vile and evil action" to try to make your invalid point, because you have an emotional investment in supporting the Tsarina. You just can't stand to admit the truth: he's a dishonest, no-good snake, and you've chosen the wrong dog in this fight.

YOU SAY: "I believe your arguments are nothing less than capricious. You are arguing out of both sides of your mouth. On the one hand, you are bitter that Riley confronted your activities with a query demanding your response. On the other hand, you attack Riley for not doing enough to clean up the bands. Pick a side Bill."

ABSOLUTELY UNTRUE: You're setting up a straw man again. I never argued that the Tsarina should be doing more to clean up the bands. I have always said that hams should be entirely self-policing, and that the Tsarina's appointment as "Special Counsel" was nothing but a perversion of long-standing practice because the ARRL was trying to score brownie-points with its members. God, Ford, you're such a liar!

 
RE: Who's the one "distorting facts & spe  
by K1OU on September 8, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Bill, not meant to be original. Just stating facts, it is obvious that you need to get laid. Just think, with the energy that you are spending flaming people, you could have satisfied ten women ten times over before breaking a sweat. And I'm sure that Riley really gives a damn about what you think.
 
More lies from N0FP  
by N6AYJ on September 8, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
YOU SAY: "If you were in a bar, talking to a Peace Officer, and the officer said "You can drive 10 MPH faster than the posted speed limit and that's OK." And you proceed to interpret the officer's words as the law and get a speeding ticket for 10 MPH over the posted limit, what do you suppose the judge would say when you argue "But officer so-and-so said it was OK to drive 10 MPH over the speed limit." Nothing! Your argument would be without merit. Why? Because the Peace Officer was not interpreting the law correctly when he made the statement. And the Peace Officer's words are not the law."

BUT YOU HAVE DELIBERATELY FAILED TO CONCLUDE YOUR ANALOGY, FORD! If we assume, as you state, that it is proven that the officer intentionally lied to me about the speed limit, and suggested that I break the law, the officer would have his butt canned from the force pronto. So I will agree with you, if you are arguing that the Tsarina should have his ass canned.

YOU SAY: "So when you interpret Riley's alleged statement that said "Jamming is OK," and then you proceed to begin jamming..."

MORE OF YOUR LIES. READ MY POSTS. I have advocated following Part 97, and I have stated that I adhere to Part 97. ALL PARTS OF IT, not just the parts that the Tsarina finds it convenient to enforce, in order to favor his ARRL buddies. Following ALL PARTS of Part 97 includes following Sec. 97.101(d), which prohibits intentional interference. It's just that I don't feel I have to meet your personal and arbitrary expectations in your attempt to impose requirements in addition to those contained in Part 97.

Ford, you're nothing but a sickening pisspot.
 
You're darned right!  
by N6AYJ on September 8, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
K1OU: "...it is obvious that you need to get laid."

You're right about that, pal! In my case, the term "DSB" refers not to "double sideband", but instead to "deadly semen buildup." Feel free to refer any available women my way. I'm good in the callbook!

 
RE: You're darned right!  
by K1OU on September 8, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
It's obvious that you need women referred to you, because you lack the people skills.
 
RE: More lies from N0FP  
by N0FP on September 8, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
N6AYJ said:

"...you're nothing but a sickening pisspot."

Hey Bill... Tell us how you really feel!
 
N6AYJ's Strawman is in FLAMES  
by N0FP on September 8, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Bill-N6AYJ spews

"BUT YOU HAVE DELIBERATELY FAILED TO CONCLUDE YOUR ANALOGY, FORD! If we assume, as you state, that it is proven that the officer intentionally lied to me about the speed limit, and suggested that I break the law, the officer would have his butt canned from the force pronto. So I will agree with you, if you are arguing that the Tsarina should have his ass canned. "


Let me get this straight. You are arguing that Riley 'intentionally' misled you into believing that you could openly conduct jamming on the hambands. You are a lawyer that knows part 97 and you fully believed this interpretation of part 97? So then you followed his advice and later got in trouble with Riley? I don't know what you are smokin' Bill. This is all just too incredible to believe. Can you provide some sort of evidence of this? Or are you just trolling?

 
RE: N6AYJ's Strawman is in FLAMES  
by KT0DD on September 9, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Don't let em get you down Billy. This site is nothing more than the "National Enquirer" or "Weekly World News" of Amateur Radio. There's always going to be some nitwit on here that isn't smart enough to know that they should just walk away from the keyboard and leave it alone, or ignore things, as they get a perverse thrill from arguing with someone because they must "Always be RIGHT", or "Have the last word".

I go thru it all the time, but I get to a point where I consider the source, and pity them for their mental malady, so I move on. 73. You're sounding good on X.840 this AM. S9+15 in WYO. 73. Todd
 
Why is this going on?  
by KI4FAK on September 9, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Here's my two cents: the best way to address this issue, for all parties, is to go silent. Seriously, it is quite disturbing to see a group of individuals that I thought to be mature and civil squabble and backbite like a bunch of teenagers in the online games and chatrooms I used to moderate.

I will continue to operate within the rules. If someone jams, karma or the FCC will get them. The eham staff assuredly intended the article to be a joke and whether or not the author put any real intent into it is a moot point as we should all take it as a farse.

Think about this: Everyone talks about saving the HAM bands and fighting the FCC's attempts to take frequencies away from us, and all that has been going on here is the promotion of and attempts to clutter our airwaves and online resources with this meaningless drivel.

So, for all our sanity's sakes, can we stop this?
 
RE: Why is this going on?  
by N0FP on September 9, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I for one have no problem with 'tongue in cheek' stuff. But the ensuing dribble coming from the author in follow-up posts cannot be ignored. He has an agenda, and it does not bode well for ham radio. I for one find it very disturbing to see ANYONE promoting jamming. I have never before had the opportunity to confront a jammer until eHam placed Bill's attempt at humor on their website.

It appears that Billy has finally gone silent due to the fact that he has been 'foisted by his own petard.'

Ford-N0FP
 
RE: Why is this going on?  
by NN6EE on September 9, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Uncle Billy (N6AYJ)

You know that "Warning letter" I got from "Hollywood back a few years ago about purported "HUM & WHINE"? Well it was proven by some other friends and knowledgible Hams that it was ALL frigg'n BOGUS!!! Some petty/vindictive local ARRL OOs had conspired to try and get me. In the end the outcome was very satisfying in that Rosalie White of the ARRL, as confirmed by Bob Vallio-W6RGG (ARRL Pacific Div. director) who I met down at Visalia in April for the DX-Convention, that ALL of the conspiring OOs were TERMINATED from the OO program because of their legal liabilities as concerned the ARRL!!! They were afraid of getting their collectives asses SUED, which they did deserve by letting this local harassment program continue as long as it did!!!

VENGENCE is SWEET!!!

CIAO!!!

Jim/nn6ee
 
Ford, you're right for once  
by N6AYJ on September 9, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Yes, Ford, I do have an agenda and I freely admit to it. I want to get the Tsarina's ass canned.

I heard from a friend who used to work for the Commission that he's incompetent; that he f'd up his last job of auctioning off frequencies, and that when he was assigned to the position of Special Counsel for amateur enforcement everybody knew it was a demotion as punishment because the amateur radio enforcement job is one of the least desirable positions in the entire Commission, because it is so boring, and nobody else wanted it. The Tsarina and the League just tried to put a good face on the situation by making it appear that the Tsarina really wanted the position.

BTW, you are wrong on yet another point: I never claimed the Tsarina led me to believe it was OK to jam. I only mentioned that he led people to believe they could jam in the two other instances, as referred to in my foregoing posts.

It also turns out I was wrong about other amateurs not having the money to hire attorneys in Washington, D.C. when the Commission attempted to deny renewal of their license for some arbitrary reason or another. It turns out that several hams have indeed done so. As the result of eHam.net kindly permitting this thread, I have been in touch with them and have arranged to receive copies of all of the legal papers their attorneys filed in their cases, so I will perhaps be prepared to make all the right arguments in my own case, if the Tsarina ever tries to deny renewal of my ticket.

73, Ford, and work lots of DX or whatever. Billy the Bill Collector, N6AYJ

 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by W3LOW on September 11, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
AE6QF wrote:

"Oh dear! Yup, fun guys they are: W4JFR, W3LOW, & WD0M....they all have VANITY callsigns..

73, Quiet Finger "


Some guys would rather avoid the topic and take personal attacks at someone. They simply don't want to hear the truth.


73,

W3LOW
 
All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by KI4ENY on September 17, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
moron
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by W6DEK on September 21, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Oh my
 
RE: All Hams Need a Secret Jamming Location  
by KB2SEO on January 20, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
..."the amateur radio enforcement job is one of the least desirable positions in the entire Commission, because it is so boring, and nobody else wanted it.."


GEEZ I WONDER WHY THEYDA THUNK THAT?

I hear Ajax wants their carton back
 
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