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Teens Taunt Police with Pilfered Radios

from Seamus McGraw on June 22, 2000
Website: http://www.APBNews.com
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June 20, 2000 

AMHERST, Ohio -- For nearly five hours, a gang of pot-smoking teenagers allegedly taunted police over a pair of stolen two-way radios, calling the officers by name, cursing at them, threatening them, and bragging that they'd never get caught. 

"You're never going to find us," one of them bleated across the emergency channels, police said. 

They were wrong. It took harried police from Amherst and Vermillion most of the night to track down the teens with the help of a local ham radio operator. But all six youngsters are now in custody, charged with a raft of offenses under the state's juvenile delinquency act, including theft and telecommunications harassment, Amherst police spokeswoman Barbara Hudson said. 

The alleged obscene and abusive tirade began around 9:30 p.m. Saturday, and it couldn't have come at a worse possible time for police in the two communities at the edge of Lake Erie which share an emergency communication network, Hudson said. In Vermillion, police were stretched to the limit patrolling the town's annual Fish Festival, a celebration of the harvest on the nearby lake. In Amherst, most of the officers were fanning through the village of 14,000 looking for a robbery suspect who was later arrested, no thanks to the teenagers, police said. 

In both towns, it was essential that communications between police not be interrupted, Hudson said. 

But the six boys, all between 14 and 16, had a different agenda. 

Earlier, one of the youths had stolen three hand-held, two-way radios from the municipal Public Works Department, where he had a summer job, authorities said. 

He had brought two of the radios to the home of a friend, and in the basement of that house they began their pirate broadcasts, Hudson said. 

"They were calling the officers on duty by their last names," Hudson said. 

At one point, one of the boys threatened police. 

"I see you, 104," he said, rattling off the call number of a patrol car. "I have you in my scope." 

Ham operator to the rescue.

Frustrated, police turned to the Detroit office of the Federal Communications Commission, but it did not have the equipment needed to trace the broadcasts and would not be able to get it there until early the next morning, Hudson said. 

Then a local good Samaritan with a ham radio offered his services. 

By about 2 a.m., Todd Dunlop had traced the broadcasts to a basement recreation room in his own neighborhood, Hudson said. 

A short time later, police knocked on the door, waking the sleeping grandmother of the teenager who lived there, and got permission to search the house, Hudson said. 

They found the youths and two of the stolen radios, and later recovered the third at the home of the teenager who had allegedly stolen it, Hudson said. 

Police threw the book at the boys. 

"They jeopardized the safety of police officers for about five hours," Hudson said. 

In addition to theft and harassment, the teenagers were also charged with possession of marijuana and disruption of public services. 

They remained locked up this afternoon in the Lorain County Juvenile Detention Center, Hudson said.

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Send in the clowns  
by WT3A on June 22, 2000 Mail this to a friend!
The last thing the cops should have done in called the FCC in Detroit.
Isn't that embarassing, our country has cut back so far
that its own FCC can't handle a complaint like that "due
not having DF equipment".
Thank you amateur radio

73's
Bob
 
Handslap, Counseling, Jerry Springer  
Anonymous post on June 22, 2000 Mail this to a friend!
After all this, will these kids be eligible for a no code ham ticket ?

 
Good work, Todd!  
by K5IQ on June 22, 2000 Mail this to a friend!
Congrats to Todd Dunlap (the article apparently misspelled his name), whom I believe to be KC8EDS. This is another feather in ham radio's cap!

This story brings up an interesting point: police departments don't generally have folks on staff trained to do DFing, yet "Foxhunting" is old hat for hams. What a great opportunity for a local Amateur Radio club or ARES group to enter into a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) with the local authorities; if help is needed in tracking down pranksters like those in the article (or even the occasional stuck mike), the PD could get quick, effective response from the hams. Needless to say, if enforcement action is warranted, the hams would get the heck out of the way after pointing the authorities in the right direction.

This could be another opportunity for Amateur Radio to give back to the community and, at the same time, become more visible. Believe it or not, an awful lot of people have never heard of ham radio. Visibility and public service go a long way toward building community support. Neighbors and town fathers (and I guess "town mothers," too) look a lot more favorably at ham radio issues (antennas, RFI, etc.) when they know that radio amateurs are good citizens--like Todd Dunlap--who contribute to the community's well-being.
 
Amateur Radio to the Rescue!  
by AB7RG on June 23, 2000 Mail this to a friend!

Great news! This is the type of exposure that we need! Not the stuff where some kid modifies an Amateur Radio and uses it to harass the police, but one where the police are being harassed and it is an Amateur Radio operator who helps out. I sure hope that he gets the credit, along with Amateur Radio in the newspapers there. Maybe then the local government will be a little less restrictive about antennas! Why tie up the police trying to DF jammers, when Amateurs live for that type of challenge? We'll do it for free, and have the equipment to do so.

I would also think that this would make the police a lot more tolerant of Amateurs having scanners and transceivers capabile of receivng their transmissions, as if there is some idiot jamming, we can help. This can save lives!

As for the teenagers, I'm glad they got the book thrown at them. They should also never be allowed to operate a two-way radio ever again. This would preclude them from CB even. I'd hate to think what could have happened if there would have been an officer down during all this, like I said, it could have cost someone their life.

73 & way to go Amateur Radio!
Clinton Herbert AB7RG

 
ham radio to the rescue  
by N9NRA on June 25, 2000 Mail this to a friend!
Way to go and a BIG pat on the back to that amateur!
we need more like him, it`s a real neat thing when someone
way down in the ham radio "trenches" does what the FCC
seems unable or unwilling to do (Coulden`t get the RDF
gear there untill morning..yeah,right!) It just goes to show you, THERE`S ALWAYS A HAM WHEN YOU NEED HIM OR HER!
thanks and again...WAY TO GO, TODD!

73 from ANDY,N9NRA
 
LIDS... You can run but not hide...  
by KD4LEI on June 26, 2000 Mail this to a friend!
It seems interesting that most people think they can get away with malicious interference on local HAM radio freq's or worse, to local public service agencies. Be very forewarned to any who think it is funny or cool to try these stunts, you won't be able to get away with it for very long. Trust me, there are a lot of us HAM op's that love the art of foxhunting and triangulating. Many kudos's should be given to this HAM op for helping to catch these kids.
 
Teens Taunt Police with Pilfered Radios  
by N8ZUX on January 3, 2003 Mail this to a friend!
Well now that Project 25 is here that radio of the P-25 I beleieve can be shut down like a cell-phone, thanks to Motorola Technology.

unfortunately old analog stuff still can jam, but at least the Doppler System ( visit http://www.dopsys.com ) can sniff out signals in a small amount of time.

As to FCC sure they are tight on budget, COngress has them Auctioning off TV Bands for the new 700 Mhz. Bands and paying off national debit thanks to the So called religious group who thinks we will be bankrupted by 20XX ?? geeze no debate please, also laugh about the License bought at an auction no one will trade band for band ( laughable ) and they don't have resource to get a reasonable cause to secure a Warrant etc..

If they get a FCC application good thought will these violators get denied, depends if they sent a copy of the arrest record to the FCC for radio violation and thats really a shot in the dark if it ever does come up, maybe their attorney may bend the rules for them, happened to Kevin Mitnick ( spelled right ? ) ( it's 1am for me here )

Kids will probably do probation, community service and very minimal jail time, if they hire a good lawyer, I don't see them hanging in stocks, probably broken home syndrome story, grandma says ole swwet kids story, blah blah, maybe their FOC worker will sweet the story there too, I heard it all, what is that one song something about a lawyer to undo what ya done cannot think of it, anyway you get the idea how revolving justice operates , next week they probably get done with probation, and go do some other stupid thing, by 18 they will be in jail for robbery or grand theft auto or something that gets them into the system, and a record.

End of Crime Story
we pay our taxes dearly for such stupidity.
SK
 
RE: Send in the clowns  
by VA7MRT on June 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
W3TA, sorry to see you're embarrassed about the FCC but to give you a reality check - it's been like you describe it here in Canada ever since Industry Canada came on the bandwagon a few years back.

I'd love to get a job there - Government benefits, a great pension and good pay, just to do nothing but sit on your rear and play with your favorite toys all day!

Unfortunately, we've been seeing first hand the ramifications of having an authoritative body which wont assist in eradicating many QRM situations here in Vancouver, BC Canada. It's rather dissapointing that they encourage us to police ourselves, and even when we bring severe situations to their attention - they still wont do much.

The most I've seen done thus far is for them to put a DVR (Digital Voice Recording) on a few of the local repeaters saying "To report abuse on this repeater - call Jonathan Corris of Industry Canada at 604-930-8691 ext 126" - all I've ever gotten is an an answering machine. When I call the swicthboard and ask for a transfer, the bloke is never in or still I get an answering machine. What does that go to show!

Cheers,
- Matt VA7MRT

 
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