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When Your Legislator Ignores You...
Don Schellhardt KI4PMG (CALLSIGNPENDING)
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When Your Legislator Ignores You …
NEWS FLASHES ABOUT HOA ANTENNA REFORM LEGISLATION
1. Re efforts to add H.R. 1478 (the HOA antenna reform bill introduced by Representative Israel, D-NY) to the “fast tracked” bill on the 9/11 Commission's recommendations:
THE UNITED STATES SENATE IS EXPECTED TO VOTE ON THE 9/11 BILL “DURING THE WEEK OF [MONDAY] SEPTEMBER 27”. That's next week.
That prediction comes from SENATOR SUSAN COLLINS, R-ME, and SENATOR JOSEPH LIEBERMAN, D-CT -- both of whom are playing key roles in shaping and guiding the 9/11 bill. [Hams in Maine and Connecticut: Take Note!!]
2. Earlier this month, in the United States House of Representatives, H.R. 1478 gained its 36th co-sponsor: REPRESENTATIVE RICK LARSEN, D-WA. Maybe some hams talked to him when he was home for the Summer Recess.
I've been posting on EHAM for several months now, trying to whip up additional “grassroots” support for action on HOA antenna reform (which means, at least in what is left of THIS Session of Congress, the enactment of H.R. 1478).
However, it is time -- actually, PAST time -- for me to address a question that has popped up on EHAM more than once: “What should you do when your legislator ignores you?”
Apparently, more than a few of you have been finding that your Congressional legislator's responses are vague at best -- if you get a response at all. I notice that some of you have figured out that the phrase “I will bear your views in mind” is a classical Congressional kissoff.
Frankly, if your Senator or Representative agreed with you, he would tell you so clearly. Why would he (or she) pass up an easy opportunity to please a voter? Further, if he (or she) were genuinely undecided, you would probably receive a brief explanation of the values being weighed -- and perhaps even an invitation to provide more information. Vagueness, especially if it is artful, usually reflects not indecision on the issue but a reluctance to tell you the truth because you won't like it.
As Abraham Lincoln once said: “Better to remain silent, and be thought a fool, than to speak up and remove all doubt.”
Based on 3 years as a Capitol Hill staffer, and another 20+ years as a Government Relations advocate, I have 5 suggestions for you if your legislator is being vague (or just plain silent). I offer these suggestions as AN INDIVIDUAL, not as a spokesperson for any organization.
(A) TRY TO DEAL WITH THE LEGISLATOR DIRECTLY, OR AT LEAST WITH A HIGHER-RANKING STAFF MEMBER. As more than one ham has reported here, sometimes the problem is letter-answering staffers who are not as energetic and/or alert as the legislator himself (or herself) might be. (In fairness to SOME of the Capitol Hill staffers, many of them are routinely overworked and overwhelmed. Others among them, however, are intellectually and/or logistically lazy, or otherwise under-motivated.)
If this is the problem, direct contact with the Representative may be helpful. The easiest way to make direct contact is usually on weekends, or during Congressional Recesses, when the legislator is back home. (Local offices can usually be found on your Congressional legislator's Web Site, which is reachable via www.house.gov or www.senate.gov, or in your local phone book.) Other methods include a personal visit to Washington or, possibly, a phone call to Washington -- but constant, unforeseen interruptions when Congress is in Session make these other methods somewhat less dependable than a visit while the legislator is back home.
In the case of action on H.R. 1478 -- where the outcome for 2004 may well be decided in the next 2 weeks (or possibly 3 to 4 weeks, if Congress extends its targeted adjournment date) -- there is probably not enough time left to use ANY of these methods for direct contact.
Therefore, in THIS specific situation, I advise you to go to the legislator's Web Site … find the highest-ranking STAFFER you can identify … and then call or Fax that STAFFER instead of the legislator. You may very well discover that talking to the legislator's top staffer is functionally like talking to the legislator directly. After all, in most cases, no one gets to be the top staffer unless he or she: (a) independently thinks a lot like the legislator; and/or (b) understands how the legislator thinks so well that he or she can function as the legislator's “proxy”.
(B) GATHER STRENGTH IN NUMBERS. Prepare a Petition and see whether a document with 20 or 30 or 50 names on it “punches through the ground clutter” better than a letter sent by you alone. (Again, however: If you are pressing for action on H.R. 1478 during the next few weeks, time is running out. So you'd better gather those signatures fast, if you're going to gather them at all, and then FAX that Petition when it's ready.)
I have prepared a Sample Petition and placed it at the end of this article. Feel free to use it as a starting point for your own work IF you wish.
Also: I recommend you read the discussion of “Multi-Signature Letters” on the “grassroots Lobbying Web Site” of TOM COATES N3IJ of Maryland. Tom's excellent Web Site can be found at http://home.comcast.net/~n3ij/
(C) IF THE LEGISLATOR REMAINS UNRESPONSIVE, EMBARRASS HIM OR HER THROUGH A LETTER TO THE EDITOR. In the interests of fairness, and of maintaining good will if possible, I suggest you try a phone call to the legislator's top staffer BEFORE you send in a critical Letter To The Editor (or two, or ten). Should the legislator's office blow that “last chance” to pay attention to you, then I would “lower the boom” with one or more critical Letters To The Editor.
Remember what I said, in Item A, about a legislator's top staffer. Lower-ranking staffers may hold their jobs through patronage or random chance, but a top staffer is almost always selected by the legislator VERY carefully. In all likelihood, that top staffer either thinks like the legislator, or knows how the legislator thinks, or both.
The bottom line: If the top staffer blows you off, it's a good bet that the legislator would blow you off, too. So take an unreturned phone call, or a curt and/or evasive reply, as an accurate reflection of how YOUR LEGISLATOR really views you and your concerns.
I have prepared a Sample Letter To The Editor and placed it at the end of this article, directly below the Sample Petition.
(D) TAKE A LOOK AT THE LEGISLATOR'S OPPONENT(S), IF ANY. I have never really liked that old adage: “The enemy of my enemy is my friend.” Sometimes: The enemy of your enemy is just another enemy.
IF your legislator isn't doing what you want, and ESPECIALLY if your legislator is also treating you disrespectfully in the process, it makes sense to take a look at what The Competition -- if there is any -- is offering. If the “cure” seems worse than the disease, and/or if your legislator's opponent agrees with you on H.R. 1478 but disagrees with you on almost everything else, then look at other options. But at least eyeball The Competition to see what is offered.
The odds are good, in THIS year's elections, that your legislator's opponent has never taken a position on HOA antenna reform in general or on H.R. 1478 in particular. If this is the case, it is probably because your legislator's opponent has never heard of HOA antenna reform or H.R. 1478. There's a lot of that going `round …
Do not despair. This means you have “a blank slate”. You and your friends can be the ones to educate this candidate about this issue!!
In this regard: Remember that an un-elected candidate is likely to have a lot more time to talk with you, read your materials and so on than a busy incumbent. Perhaps you can “make lemonade from lemons” by working with the politician “who's only No. 2 … and trying harder”.
(I'm taking my own advice, BTW, here in the 5th Congressional District of Connecticut. My Congresswoman, Republican Representative Nancy Johnson, has been opposed to my views on any number of issues. So I have recently undertaken the initiative of opening a dialogue with her Democratic Party opponent, former State Representative Theresa B. Gerretana. The topics include HOA antenna reform, and I guess we'll see what happens.)
I am aware, of course, that many Congressional incumbents have only token opposition -- or even no opposition at all -- and that the percentage of unopposed incumbents has been increasing over the years. At least in most cases, I believe this is an unhealthy development for our representative democracy, but that's a topic for another day.
For now, I will just note the obvious practical implication: the fact that uncontested elections take from many of us the best leverage we have for influencing our legislators.
A clear example of this is Representative Adam Putnam, R-FL. To the best of my limited knowledge of the subject, Representative Putnam appears to have been the subject of more complaints from hams -- about unresponsiveness on HOA antenna reform -- than any other incumbent in Congress. It didn't surprise me, when I checked on how many votes Representative Putnam received in 2002, to see that he had had no major opponent during the last election. Placing legislators beyond accountability (or businesspeople, or clergy members, or civil servants, or Whomever) rarely brings out the best in them.
If your legislator has no meaningful opposition for re-election, please pay special attention to OPTION E.
(E) HELP FRIENDLY CANDIDATES WHO WILL BE REPRESENTING PEOPLE OTHER THAN YOU.
Since there are 100 U.S. Senators and 435 voting Members of the House of Representatives, and you can only vote on who 3 of them should be, it makes sense to support a national movement by supporting -- with money, volunteer time or other forms of assistance -- some candidates you aren't in a position to support with your vote.
While there is some general rationality behind this option, the case for it becomes especially compelling if there is -- at present -- no one you can vote for who shares your views on the issues that matter to you most.
So “the grass may be greener” in Someone Else's backyard. The candidates who best represent YOU may be running elsewhere in your State, or even elsewhere in your country. Consider donating some money, IF you can afford it, and/or some time and energy. (Example: Howard Dean's Presidential campaign recruited volunteers from all over the country to write personal letters to registered voters in Iowa, New Hampshire and other early primary states. Also: Campaigns for offices from President to Mayor routinely invite volunteers from neighboring States to pass out leaflets in “swing” precincts, stuff envelopes and so on.)
As a starting point for your own “candidate evaluation process”, you might begin with the proven friends of HOA antenna reform in Congress: that is, those 37 Members of the House of Representatives who have recorded their names as sponsors of H.R. 1478.
A list of the 37 Congressional legislators who have sponsored H.R. 1478, and some additional information about them, has been included at the end of this article. You will find the list of legislators below the Sample Letter To The Editor.
2 final points -- both of them concerning campaign contributions:
1. Never send a campaign contribution directly to a legislator's office. It is illegal for you to send (or hand deliver) a campaign contribution to a legislator's office -- and it is illegal for them to accept it if you do. What you CAN do, instead, is to call, Fax or E-Mail the office, asking them where to send campaign contributions. Alternatively: You can probably find a Web Site for a legislator's campaign committee through a search on www.google.com or a comparable search engine.
2. Make sure you identify your campaign contribution as coming from YOU, as an INDIVIDUAL. The NATIONAL ANTENNA CONSORTIUM (NAC), ARRL and similar organizations are not allowed to endorse candidates or to solicit campaign contributions. They can provide information, if they have it, on where candidates stand on issues which concern their Members. This includes the right to identify which legislators, if any, have been helpful. But that is as far as groups like NAC and ARRL can go. They can provide information, but what you do with it has to be your decision … 100%.
So: If you make a campaign contribution, and if you mention that HOA antenna reform has been a factor in your decision, please do not bring the name of NAC, ARRL or any similar organization into the discussion. Speak only in your name … as AN INDIVIDUAL whose attributes include a ham radio license.
WHATEVER YOU DECIDE TO DO, IF ANYTHING:
SAMPLE PETITION TO A CONGRESSIONAL LEGISLATOR
Dear Representative -----:
We, the undersigned, hereby Petition you, as our United States Representative, to co-sponsor, and otherwise support the enactment of, H.R. 1478. [For a U.S. Senator: Replace “Representative” with “Senator”, and replace “co-sponsor,” with “introduce in the Senate,” ]
In particular, we urge you to support adding the text of H.R. 1478 to the pending bill on the 9/11 Commission's recommendations.
H.R. 1478 has been introduced by Representative Steve Israel, D-NY. It would ban the currently widespread bans on Amateur Radio antennas, aka ham radio antennas, by Homeowners' Associations (HOAs) and restrictive covenants. HOAs and covenants could still adopt reasonable regulations, including their height and design, but these regulations could no longer be carried to the point of banning Amateur Radio operations completely.
Enactment of H.R. 1478 is vital for the preservation and enhancement of emergency preparedness and national security. Because hams cannot operate without antennas, HOA antenna bans effectively keep Amateur Radio Service operations out of HOA-controlled communities. Because countless disasters over the past 90 years have proven the value of Amateur Radio Service as a crucial supplement to -- or even substitute for -- public sector emergency communications, the bans effectively “unplug” HOA-controlled communities from the full measure of normally available emergency communications protection. 4 out of 10 Americans live in such extra-vulnerable, under-protected communities.
We are petitioning you for action collectively because of your unresponsive replies to those of us who have contacted you individually. Perhaps our numbers will attract your attention. In any event: Please understand that the enactment of H.R. 1478 is very important to us personally, as registered and active voters in your Congressional District. [For a U.S. Senator: Replace “Congressional District” with “State”.]
We want to see action before the current Session of Congress adjourns.
(PLEASE INCLUDE YOUR NAMES AND SNAIL MAIL ADDRESSES -- ALONG WITH YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESSES, IF POSSIBLE)
SAMPLE LETTER TO THE EDITOR
The recent Gulf region hurricanes have demonstrated, yet again, the value of Amateur Radio Service operations, aka ham radio operations, as a crucial supplement to public sector emergency communications. In Palm Beach County, Florida, ham volunteers even had to “pinch hit” for public sector emergency services when those communications -- police, fire, rescue -- went down for 11 hours.
Unfortunately, all across the country, Homeowners' Associations (HOAs) and restrictive covenants ban all ham antennas, and thus all ham radio operations, from their communities. This leaves HOA-controlled communities, where 4 out of 10 Americans now reside, extra-vulnerable and under-protected in the face of natural or man-made disasters.
Fortunately, Representative Steve Israel, D-NY, has introduced H.R. 1478: a bill that would ban the bans by HOAs. Reasonable regulations by HOAs and covenants would still be allowed, but they could be carried to the point of banning ham radio operations completely.
Unfortunately, Congressional leaders are planning to adjourn this Session of Congress for the year by early October. This would kill H.R. 1478 and all other pending bills.
Fortunately, a campaign is underway to enact H.R. 1478 by adding it to the fast-moving bill on the 9/11 Commission's recommendations.
Unfortunately, my own Congressman, Representative ----------------, has not lifted a finger to help. [For a U.S. Senator: Replace “my own Congressman, Representative ------,” with “Senator -------“ . Make this plural if BOTH of your Senators have been unresponsive, but in that case be sure to change the next sentence, replacing “he [or she]” with “they” and “his [or her”] with “their”.] In fact, in response to my correspondence, he [or she] will not even tell me his [or her] position on this bill.
Perhaps public disclosure of his current unresponsiveness, in this newspaper, will motivate Representative ------ to co-sponsor H.R. 1478 and support its inclusion in the 9/11 bill. [For a U.S. Senator: Replace “Representative -----“ with “Senator ----“ or “Senators ------ and -----“. Also change “co-sponsor H.R. 1478” to “introduce H.R. 1478 in the Senate”.] I certainly hope so.
Every day that Congressional leaders fail to act on H.R. 1478 is a day that lives are put at risk -- for no good reason.
(PLEASE INCLUDE YOUR NAME, SNAIL MAIL ADDRESS AND PHONE NUMBER -- ALONG WITH YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS IF POSSIBLE)
CURRENT CO-SPONSORS OF H.R. 1478:
Amateur Radio Emergency Communications Consistency Act
Introduced by Representative Steve Israel, D-NY
Situation As Of 9/20/04: 20 Democrats, 17 Republicans
(Ranked By Apparent Vulnerability In Re-Election Races)
After each name, we have listed the percentage of the vote this Representative received in the 2002 election. Source: The “U.S. Congress” Section of www.congress.org (maintained by the League of Women Voters).
1. (Tie) Dennis Moore, D-KS … 50%
Anibal Acevedo-Vila, D-Puerto Rico … 50% (Non-voting Member of Congress)
3. (Tie) Rick Larsen, D-WA … 51%
Joseph Hoeffel, D-PA … 51%
5. Michael Michaud, D-ME …. 52%
6. Rob Simmons, R-CT … 54%
7. (Tie) C.A. “Dutch” Ruppersberger, D-MD … 55% (Serves on House Government Reform AND Intelligence Committees)
Marilyn Musgrave, R-CO … 55%
9. (Tie) Carolyn McCarthy, D-NY … 56%
Charles H. Taylor, R-NC … 56%
11. (Tie) STEVE ISRAEL, D-NY … 58% (SPONSOR of H.R. 1478)
Ralph M. Hall, R-TX … 58% (Serves on House Commerce Committee)
13. (Tie) Mark Udall, D-CO … 60%
J.D. Hayworth, R-AZ … 60%
15. (Tie) David E. Price, D-NC … 61%
17. Ken Calvert, R-CA … 63%
18. Randy “Duke” Cunningham, R-CA … 64% (Serves on House Intelligence Committee)
19. (Tie) Patrick J. Tiberi, R-OH … 65% (Serves on House Government Reform Committee)
Michael Honda, D-CA … 65%
Dennis R. Rehberg, R-MT … 65%
22. (Tie) Rick Boucher, D-VA … 66% (Serves on House Commerce Committee)
Roscoe Bartlett, R-MD … 66% (Has a ham, “Pudge” Forrester, as a legislative advisor on his staff)
Tammy Baldwin, D-WI … 66%
25. (Tie) Marion Berry, D-AR … 67%
27. (Tie) Anna G. Eshoo, D-CA … 68% (Serves on House Commerce AND Intelligence Committees)
John J. Olver, D-MA … 68%
Pete Sessions, R-TX … 68%
30. Jim DeMint, R-SC … 69%
31. (Tie) Mike McIntyre, D-NC … 71%
Donald A. Manzullo, R-IL … 71%
33. Greg Walden, R-OR … 72% (Serves on House Commerce Committee … Also a ham)
34. Michael McNulty, D-NY … 75%
35. John J. Duncan, Jr., R-TN … 79%
36. (Tie) Todd Russell Platts, R-PA … No major opponent in 2002
JoAnn Davis, R-VA … No major opponent in 2002
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When Your Legislator Ignores You...
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by LNXAUTHOR on September 30, 2004
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- solid tips for individual lobbying efforts here...
- unfortunately, most elected officials only seem to be responsive right before elections or if your interest coincides w/a special project, proposed bill, or pet peeve on the part of the legislator...
- perhaps we need to get more of these officials licensed as amateur radio operators?
:-)
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Your Legislator Ignores You or ZZZzzzz?
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by K4RAF on September 30, 2004
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If you present yourself in person, the same way you write, are you sure he is really ignoring you or did he fall asleep after paragraph 3?
This is going nowhere, fast! Private property rights & signed contracts are really pretty basic. You don't have a chance if you sign any contract that does not have specific enabling language in it.
To think you can force undefined amateur radio installations onto private property is just absurd!!!
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RE: Your Legislator Ignores You or ZZZzzzz?
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by W1XZ on September 30, 2004
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I made it as far as "In any event", fell asleep, and now my forehead is covered with little keyboard indentations.
73's to you, too.
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RE: Your Legislator Ignores You or ZZZzzzz?
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by NQ5I on September 30, 2004
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I'm confused on the purpose of this bill. Maybe the legalesque escapes me.
Here is the info from Thomas:
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A BILL
To provide that private land use rules be treated as State or local regulation for purposes of certain Federal Communications Commission regulations.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This Act may be cited as the `Amateur Radio Emergency Communications Consistency Act'.
SEC. 2. TREATMENT OF PRIVATE LAND USE RULES AS LOCAL REGULATION.
For purposes of the Federal Communications Commission's regulation relating to station antenna structures in the amateur radio services (47 CFR 97.15), any private land use rules applicable to such structures shall be treated as a State or local regulation and shall be subject to the same requirements and limitations as a State or local regulation.
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Is this just saying that the Federal Govt cannot regulate any more? That it is now passed on to State legislation?
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RE: Your Legislator Ignores You or ZZZzzzz?
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by KC8VWM on September 30, 2004
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Don,
I appreciate your ongoing efforts on behalf of the ARS. I for one am not going to critique the article posted, after all this is not an essay class.
I also accept the following credentials you have indicated:
"Based on 3 years as a Capitol Hill staffer, and another 20+ years as a Government Relations advocate, I have 5 suggestions for you if your legislator is being vague"
For those that fell asleep at the wheel here is a short summary of the issues at hand
I believe the primary intention of your article is to provide information to radio amateurs for the purpose of prospecting new avenues in advocating and/or excercising our rights to install antennas in an ever increasing restrictive antenna world.
Having said that;
I feel that the following statements are true:
A) As more than one ham has reported here, sometimes the problem is letter-answering staffers who are not as energetic and/or alert as the legislator himself (or herself) might be.
B)You may very well discover that talking to the legislator's top staffer is functionally like talking to the legislator directly.
C)If the top staffer blows you off, it's a good bet that the legislator would blow you off, too.
D) it is probably because your legislator's opponent has never heard of HOA antenna reform or H.R. 1478.
I agree to the idea that we need to educate those that have the ability to make antena reform changes because they are have the leverage slot machine handle placed directly in their hand.
However.... In many instances letters they recieve from radio amateur constituents often get "canned text" responses.
I think the "canned text" response translates to this message:
A) Blank Stare Scenerio, "What the heck is this leter all about?"
(better to respond with canned text since I have no idea what it means anyways -scenerio.)
B) What is "Amateur Radio" anyways and why are they writing me letters.
(Unsure what the alterior motive is with respect to writing a letter -scenerio)
C)"What's this? Another nut job wacko writing to me again about another "non-issue"? - Is this one of those "enviromentalists lobbying groups" writing again? -scenerio
D) I never heard about such "unusual" rhetoric before... Where are all the simple regular "create jobs and economy letters at" -scenerio)
The question now becomes, Why do they have these perceptions?
This is a very important area to identify if we want to be "effective"...
I also feel that most of these individuals:
A) Have no idea what an antenna reform bill is, or why anyone would even be concerned about such a proposal given the fact that health care, the economy, and the war in Iraq are the main issues at hand.
B) Election votes are about demographics and numbers, and quite frankly Amateur Radio represents a very small portion of the overall general population.
C)Persons running in any election "compete" with one another. This means that they are primarily concerned with any issues that will bring their own populatity poll percentages up to be above the competition.
Therefore, the "issues" they address have to also be on the minds of the greatest number of constituents.
Q: How does antena reform fit into this picture?
While I agree to most of the above information being true, I have to question this statement:
1) If you make a campaign contribution, and if you mention that HOA antenna reform has been a factor in your decision, please do not bring the name of NAC, ARRL or any similar organization into the discussion.
I feel that sending this message might do more harm than good for the "cause." It may comes across as dishonest and might put a "stain" on the validity of the effort.
Thanks for listening.
Charles - KC8VWM
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by K0RFD on September 30, 2004
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Some decent advice as far as I got, and certainly well done legwork and information gathering, but the post itself ignored Rule 1 of dealing with legislators--KEEP IT BRIEF
I never made it thru the whole post.
And while organized fax campaigns may be somewhat effective, letter-writing and email campaigns are not. What's most effective is having a group of well-showered Hams drop in on the local legislative office. That's where most "constituent service" is done--if you impress the staffer, they have their own back channels of communication with the legislator. And communications from the staff are far more likely to be read.
I did "government relations" for several years in a previous job. It was very important to have a sympathetic staffer on your side. In fact, it was the only way to be heard (short of being a big-ticket donor).
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by KI6LO on September 30, 2004
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Good posting. Thanks for the info. I read the entire post and saved it for future reference. To those that fell asleep on sentence 3 or wherever, I can only suggest you drink more coffee or go to bed earlier.
Not being a POLY-SCI major, I took alot of what you said at face value. I have written my local representative a few times and always receive a response from him, although lately it looks and smells like a form letter. None the less, he is available by direct and non-direct routes.
I haven't been really involved in the HOA issue as I have property and there are no restrictions on my antenna efforts except for budget which I don't think any politician will be too quick to help me with, save maybe a tax reform. But that's another can of worms altogether.
Gene KI6LO
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by WB2WIK on September 30, 2004
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I thought this was pretty good. A bit long (but who am I to talk?) and I didn't like the bold type much. But a good subject, and good suggestions!
I sure agree "dropping in" on your local legislator when he or she is in his/her home state office and not in DC is pretty effective. I sent numerous letters to Diane Feinstein and Barbara Boxer, my two U.S. Senators (how many states have both female Senators?) on a subject near to my heart a few years ago and received almost immediate replies of the "I got your letter, thanks" type.
But when I dropped in on Senator Boxer in her office here a few weeks later -- without an appointment, but knowing she was in town -- that worked. She took my visit, sat, listened, asked questions, took notes. A few weeks after that I received a letter from an assistant indicating that what I requested had been acted upon, and how. (It was actually an immigration issue, which is now long resolved; nothing to do with ham radio. Too bad!)
I can imagine that fifty hams dropping by their local Representative's or Senator's office might be pretty effective, maybe more than 5,000 letters.
The problem I see with "CC&R reform" is that reasonably providing for amateur radio antennas is maybe 10% of what needs to be done. It's a start, but only a start. Most CC&Rs contain language prohibiting Disturbing the Peace, which could be acted on instantly if a transmitting ham caused one iota of RFI to anyone in the community. And many of us know how the installation of a single, visible antenna often "causes interference," even when the antenna's not connected to anything.
There's much to be done, here, but this resolution might be a good place to start.
WB2WIK/6
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by W6TH on September 30, 2004
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With our present Representative's and/or Senator's and the CC&R I feel enslaved.
"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson
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by KE4ZHN on September 30, 2004
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Ive said it before, and I`ll say it again....if you want ANY politicians full undivided attention...just wave a fistful of greenbacks in front of his face. Otherwise, its like talking to a brick wall. The only thing these legalized thieves understand is money, nothing else matters to them. Except maybe...making more money. Lobbying = legalized bribery
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by GHOSTRIDERHF on September 30, 2004
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Thank NQ5I for summing it up .. I sure wish in the 20 years of govt service he had learnt the KISS concept..
anyway .. from what I read basically this bill is going to say nothing more then that the State and Local govts will decide Antenna regulations for Amateurs... I do not see how this bill will help or hurt me -- in your disseration I never got the point..
Most times when you buy your house there is an HOA agreement -- if you like it then you buy the house -- if you disagree then find another place...
How will this bill change anything????
Thx
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by W6TH on September 30, 2004
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As the Ghost says: Most times when you buy your house there is an HOA agreement -- if you like it then you buy the house -- if you disagree then find another place...
Reminds me of; code or no code. ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
There are many more important issues than ham radio to discuss with our white house leaders. Like the Infringement of our Bill of Rights.
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by WB2WIK on September 30, 2004
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I spend half my free time advising people how to avoid buying covenant restricted properties; however, I do feel badly for those who already purchased such restricted properties and then later became interested in amateur radio.
It's better to lend a helping hand when possible, rather than reap sour grapes.
WB2WIK/6
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by W6TH on September 30, 2004
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WB2WIK/6
It's better to lend a helping hand when possible, rather than reap sour grapes.
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Sour grapes is not a waste; makes very good vinegar. Mix it with olive oil and makes a great salad treat.
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by W3ULS on September 30, 2004
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Whoa, Nellie!
1. It appears we now have legislative strategy being run by individuals, not the ARRL. Who thinks that attempting to find a Senator to offer H.R. 1478 as an unrelated amendment to the Intelligence Agencies Reorganization Bill is a good idea? The ARRL? Haven't heard from them on this. Organizing freelance legislative strategies via Internet postings is a surefire way to be embarrassed.
2. The main ARRL strategy, of seeking co-sponsors for its two bills, is of dubious merit. The only useful point of obtaining multiple sponsors in the House of Representatives is if your strategy is to seek a discharge petition from a recalcitrant committee. This is a tactic that is rarely used.
If you want a bill to pass, you do not need a host of co-sponsors. You need support (not necessarily sponsorship) from key players, including subcommittee and committee chairmen and ranking members, and you need one or two avid supporter-sponsors on the relevant subcommittees--House and Senate.
In addition, you need support, or at least "No Objection" from the FCC, OMB, the White House, and any other agencies with jurisdiction or interest. If any of these are opposed, you are in deep trouble. I have not seen any info from the ARRL as to the positions of these key agencies on the two bills.
Finally what ARRL is seeking is small potatoes in the larger scheme of things, meaning that any advancement of the ARRL bills will come as amendments offered in subcommittee (or perhaps full Committee, certainly NOT on the House or Senate floor). To get a successful subcommittee vote requires years of legwork, and an amendment should not be offered until someone has counted the votes and enough can be found among the subcommittee members for adoption.
All in all, getting legislation passed is a gruelling challenge spanning years of hard work. To blame your local House member for not being responsive, or responsive enough is to put the cart before the horse. Until the above spadework has been done,there is, frankly, no need for contacting any members who are not on the relevant committees.
The fact that ARRL is randomly asking for cosponsors for two unrelated bills is a sign either that (a) the ARRL's leaders are snookering their members or (b) their Washington representative (Chwat & Co.) is snookering the ARRL.
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by KG4RUL on September 30, 2004
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How to get a Legislator to stop ignoring you?
$ to a Campaign War Chest
Dennis / KG4RUL
P.S. If that doesn't work try more of the above
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by W6TH on September 30, 2004
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K4RAF
Welcome back my friend. I believe you and I can do a better job of running this country of ours.
73 my friend and don't be a stranger to eham.
.:W6TH
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by K4RAF on September 30, 2004
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I have been watching you W6TH. Still sharp as a pin!
If you would like to "go to the secret one", email me at k4raf@yahoo.com for a sure fire answer my friend.
I'm still in FCC ULS, the only one that matters but no email addresses there!
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by W5MEJ on September 30, 2004
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Well, while I understand the idea behind H.R. 1478, I see no logical reason it should be attached as a rider to the bill you seem to want it attached to! Maybe a last ditch effort to get it voted on in one manner or another during this session, but I see no other purpose. I guess it would be a start on the agenda that the NAC is supporting.
How long is that callsign going to be pending, anyway?
73
Chuck
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by K4RAF on September 30, 2004
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"I see no logical reason it should be attached as a rider to the bill you seem to want it attached to!"
Haven't you ever heard of "pork barrel"? Same type rider attempt. Pass it as a bill within a bill.
My questions really are how you can ram a Federal mandate over private property contracts for a non-defined footprint AND transmission & how do you grandfather all "eligible"?
Based on numbers of 300,000,000 they have a lever over the whims of under (MAYBE) 25,000. These are not receive antennas like 18" inche dishes or "pizza boxes".
Now add Echolink & there is no reason why you need to break a signed contract if you aren't smart enough to negotiate terms before you sign. That is what you pay your closing lawyer to do, negotiate.
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by W6TH on September 30, 2004
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Pork barrel,
Congress:
Bottom line: There are far more votes in securing projects than there are people who oppose it. The same guy who says he hates pork barrel spending will be happy as a clam when the bridge that he drives on everyday is fixed. To him, it's not pork - it's about time.
.: Another look: Logrolling through the Pork Barrel.
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by GHOSTRIDERHF on September 30, 2004
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Hey this article is almost as long as the OTHER one you just submitted http://www.eham.net/articles/9341 ..
I still think you miss the point .. you signed a legal document saying that you would adhere to HOA policies... there is NO bill anywhere that will ever pass that will allow you to throw up some gawky tower simply becuase we provide a public service ..
I wish yopu luck but i think you are fighting a losing battle... you may have to do like I do .. hide the Yagi in the attic and the longwire in the tree...
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by KB7LYM on September 30, 2004
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After 12 lines of reading my
eyes closed slowly.
Nothing more boring then reading percentages from Political wannabees etc.
12 lines further I went into a coma.
My wife woke me up and I read on.
Fell asleep 5 times
Took a vow to hire an assasin to protect me
from more political statements.
6 hours later I finished reading the article
Drank 2 bottles of Scotch and now the article makes more sence.
I drink to that !
I think that I am now under the alcoflence of Inkehol
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by KC8VWM on September 30, 2004
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"I wish you luck but i think you are fighting a losing battle... you may have to do like I do .. hide the Yagi in the attic and the longwire in the tree..."
So why should you?
Hence the idea of antenna reform.
Also, to address those suggesting that you don't have to buy a property that doesn't have a private covenant in place that does not restrict antennas, should look at the actual availablity of non covenant locations available in any given rural community.
The "trend" is to sell homes with private covenants in place because it gives the home buyer a false sense of the idea it is somehow a better community or having it in place.
So why buy a home there?
Simply put, what other choices are there?
When city hall suddenly decides all houses should have grass on the front yard and I want to buy one without grass - Your choices suddenly become severely limited.
The point is that we have no choice and are forced to accept what we don't wan't.
As a homeowner, I wan't to have a choice. However, the contradiction here is that I can put up a dish, but I can't have an Amateur Radio antenna. Where is the logic in that line of thinking?
How long will it take before we will all end up having to live like communists in our neighborhoods simply because we have signed an agreement giving up our freedom to make our own choices in our own homes.
Well, I forgot that I left my garage door open so I better go now and close it before the communist guards
end up at my front door.
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Charles - KC8VWM
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by KL7IPV on September 30, 2004
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I write my congressional person often. I didn't fall asleep reading the opening. Maybe I #1.- am more caring about the subject, #2.- have gotten my requisite nights sleep already, #3.- haven't given up on the hobby. I any case, for those who seem not to give a hoot, read it thru and then do something. Anything is better than saying, "it was bit long and I feel asleep.....". That is an ignorant answer and also doesn't address the problem the writer was discussing. Why people bother to write a "flame" or a derogatory remark rather than acting on the intent is beyond me. It was a good effort to get us to respond to get some action for HOA relief. Is there something inherently bad enough in that, that it garners ricidule rather than action? I guess I am missing something or the people I thoght cared about the hobby as I do have all gone away.
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Frank
KL7IPV
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by KB1IVU on October 1, 2004
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When Your Legislator Ignores You …study the materials and get a callsign...there is a duplicate article named 9/11 bill addresses FCC....give it a rest
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by GHOSTRIDERHF on October 1, 2004
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KC8VWM
"When city hall suddenly decides all houses should have grass on the front yard and I want to buy one without grass - Your choices suddenly become severely limited."
Well now that you mention it there is a City ordnance here where I live that DOES require you to have a front yard of grass in order to prevent soil runoff and erosion...
Heres the probelm with these Antenna HOA things.. I have no problem with my neighbor putting up a satellite dish -- but I do have to argue that if he puts up a 100 foot tower with a stack of Logs and Yagis that MAY lower the value of my property when i try to sell it.. not me but allow of neighbors dont like to sit out on their back deck and see some monster tower looming at them ...
I grew up with old cars on blocks in my driveway -- but I am glad that my curent HOA does not allow that -- I guess the point is that for every guy that wants to put a 100 foot antenna tower up, there may be one that wants to have a sheep farm in his backyard.. one that wants to put cars up on blocks in his yard.. one that wants to run a taxidermy service out of his garage with guts and stuff piling up --my point is -- where do you stop -- if its fair for hams to have antennas then its fair for me as a racing car buff to have a 67 Dodge on blocks in my yard also ...
My antennas in the attic and in the trees works fine.. and my neighbors are happy .. and sure i wish I could erect a tower but I understand that I have to live and play friendly with the other kids in the sandbox and that its unfair for me to expect an entire community to change the rules for the simple fact that I have a hobby.... I knew this going into the HOA agreement ...
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by W6TH on October 1, 2004
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You chaps that have no legal rights to put up antennas because you signed a contract limiting yourselves to this antenna; no one to blame but yourselves. You let these things happen then you want others to cover your mistakes as though it never happened.
You have it easy compared to the 20,000 gun laws that prohibit the ownership of such and we have by rights by the "Bill of Rights" to own and bare arms.
You don't have a problem, but our Congress has the problem.
If you don't know your rights, you don't have any.
Those who trade liberty for security have neither.
To the British, George Washington was a terrorist!!
What part of "shall not be infringed" do you not understand?
Further more: All who love liberty are enemies of the state.
Election is coming up, think about that.
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by W6TH on October 1, 2004
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Free men can possess antennas, slaves must ask for permits.
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by K4RAF on October 1, 2004
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I still have a feeling there is some snookering taking place here. Maybe this is the way they do it on The Hill but I still question the connections of both the Alliance & Consortium to "microbroadcasters" (pirates) & tower builders in this "movement". I have read both sites entirely & find it a bit unsettling that hams are sucked in by this whole "in our name" charade. Just look at who is supporting both sites.
Having worked in the tower business, I know they all would love to get a PRB-1 style binding waiver to construct without opposition. Opposition comes from everywhere when it is time to construct a cell tower.
Something is real fishy here but the posts (ebooks) just keep coming.
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by WIRELESS on October 1, 2004
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A better question is "when doesn't the government ignore you"?
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by W6TH on October 1, 2004
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You have that right WIRELESS.
We the descendants of the American Revolution, heirs of men
who bled and died to stop a 3% tax, now find ourselves tamely governed by
power-worshipping apparatchiks who can spy on our backyards, strip us of our
livelihoods and bar us from transportation but cannot perform basic
protective functions.
Prove this to be wrong, whoever you are.
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by CALLSIGNPENDING on October 2, 2004
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I'd like to "flag" for you two new postings in the "news articles" section of the EHAM Home Page (found below this "feature articles" section):
A. "H.R. 1478 -- Web Site Makes It Easy" [To Contact Your Legislators In Congress], by RICHARD HAYMAN WN3R
And
B. "9/11 Bills Address FCC, Don't Help Hams", by Yours Truly
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The second posting contains the news that Congress will be staying in Session until at least Friday, October 8. That's one more week for people like us to make a difference!!
The same posting also provides some information on the 4 9/11 Commission bills that were "floating around The Hill" at the beginning of this past week.
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Further:
My comments in the second posting's discussion thread include answers to 2 questions which have surfaced in THIS discussion thread:
(1) How, technically, does H.R. 1478 "work"? That is: How do "the mechanics" of the bill resolve the problem of HOA antenna bans?
And
(2) Isn't it a "long shot" to launch a broadly based lobbying campaign at the "tail end" of a Session of Congress? If it IS a "long shot", why invest time and energy in doing it?
Watch THIS discussion thread for my answers to other questions that have arisen here.
Thanks for listening!!
73,
Don Schellhardt
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by CALLSIGNPENDING on October 3, 2004
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Perhaps some of you will understand the length of my article better if you realize that I intend it to serve as A REFERENCE TOOL.
Yes, I am trying to induce action, but this article was not designed to serve PRIMARILY as either an action-oriented communique OR an outline of the arguments for H.R. 1478. Instead, the article is PRIMARILY designed to be more like an entry in an encyclopedia. It is intended to be available to readers, as needed, for information on possible responses to an unresponsive legislator. It is also intended to serve, for the shorter term purpose of dealing with the 2004 elections, as a guide to which co-sponsors of H.R. 1478 might be good choices for your personal campaign contributions and/or other forms of re-election support you might provide.
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Perhaps it will help if you think of this article as essentially 4 documents in 1:
PART ONE -- 5 different ways to respond to an unresponsive legislator. The specific issue in this case is HOA antenna reform, but the same approaches could apply to communications about BPL or the Spectrum Protection Act or the national debt. By the same token, the legislators in this case are Congressional (U.S. Senators and U.S. Representatives), but the same basic options are available for lobbying State legislators or City Council Members or ARRL Board Members or Whomever.
In short, the options discussed are, basically, GENERIC.
PART TWO -- This document is a SAMPLE MULTI-SIGNATORY PETITION TO A LEGISLATOR. Like the 2 which follow it, this document is much more tailored to the specific issue of HOA antenna reform (although its format and style may have some value as a template for communications on other issues). It is an EXAMPLE of HOW you could exercise one of the generic options discussed in PART ONE.
PART THREE -- This document is a SAMPLE LETTER TO THE EDITOR, designed for generating heat in public.
Like the sample Petition, it is a specific EXAMPLE of HOW to exercise a generic option discussed in Part One.
PART FOUR -- This is a database which lists the 37 current co-sponsors of H.R. 1478 ... their States of origin ... their Party affiliations ... and the percentages of the vote they received in their last election (in 2002). For those of you who may be thinking about making a campaign contribution to one or more of the H.R. 1478 co-sponsors, this database can help you "choose a champion" (or two, or five) based on how much help they need to get re-elected ... what political party they have joined ... and/or their geographical location.
BTW --
Campaign contributions aren't the ONLY way to help out a candidate in another part of your State or country.
For example: If you don't live in Silicon Valley, do you have friends or relatives there? If so, you may want to let those friends and/or relatives know that Silicon Valley & Vicinity has produced more H.R. 1478 co-sponsors (all 3 incumbents) than any other area in the nation.
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Each separate section of the article is clearly divided from the other sections. Therefore, with the schematic I have just outlined here, you can start with the portion of the article which interests you the most. You don't have to read all of the article at one sitting ... You don't have to read all of the article ever, if some of it holds no interest for you. The article is MODULAR.
I hope this explanation is helpful to those of you who find the length of my article overwhelming.
73,
Don Schellhardt
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by CALLSIGNPENDING on October 3, 2004
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Some commenters in this discussion thread have noted -- CORRECTLY -- that:
(A) Some lobbying techniques tend to be more effective than others;
And
(B) NAC's current lobbying campaign ("PLEASE Fax or E-Mail both your U.S. Senators, and also your Representative, this week or next!!") does not incorporate all of the most effective techniques.
"Guilty As Charged" ... BUT "With Mitigating Circumstances"!!
These "mitigating circumstances" are twofold:
(1) TIME,
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(2) MONEY.
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Re TIME as a restraining factor:
YES, a personal meeting with a legislator is often more effective than a Fax or E-Mail (or even a number of them).
However, NAC's current lobbying campaign is a "last ditch", "last chance" effort to try to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat in a 2-week "window" before Congress adjourns for the year. There isn't TIME for most EHAM visitors to meet with their legislators ... By the time those legislators come home, the last chance to enact HOA antenna reform in 2004 will be gone (unless there is a "lame duck" Session of Congress after the elections).
Before and during the Easter Congressional Recess, and also before and during the 6-week "August" Congressional Recess, NAC urged EHAM visitors (and many others) to schedule personal meetings with Congressional officers in their home offices. CQ MAGAZINE, in its July edition, published an article in which (among other things) I urged its 50,000 subscribers to initiate such personal meetings.
Now, however, the clock has almost ticked down to Midnight. EHAM visitors, unless they can spring for air fare to Washington, have run out of time to arrange any more personal meetings. It's Faxes and E-Mails or nothing, and I say "second best" lobbying is better than no lobbying at all.
(Incidentally, there's another reason that NAC has urged personal meetings, but not placed them at the top of our list. That is: I have found out, The Hard Way, after many years in Government Relations advocacy, that you can get 10 or 20 everyday Americans to send a Fax or E-Mail for every one you can get to arrange a personal meeting with a legislator. Many grassroots citizens seem to find that even asking for such a meeting, let alone attending one, is too intimidating. So NAC speaks highly of personal meetings, but we DON'T convey the impression that there are no other options. Again: Our guiding principle is that "second best" lobbying has more impact on events than no lobbying at all.)
Also:
YES, recruiting 1 or 2 strategically positioned legislators on a key Committee is generally much more effective than recruiting 10 or 20 legislators who aren't on that Committee.
However, once again, we are NOW in the last week or two of the current Session of Congress. "Targeted" lobbying, earlier in the year, did not bear fruit -- and so, with the clock ticking loudly in our ears, we are down to desperate measures.
To wit:
Through last spring and this past summer, NAC tried to get H.R. 1478 moving in the House Energy & Commerce Committee -- but we failed.
During the same time period, NAC tried to persuade Senate Commerce Committee Chairman John McCain, R-AZ, and a few other Senate Commerce Committee Members, to introduce a Senate version of H.R. 1478 -- but we failed.
In late August and early September, NAC sent letters to the Chairs, Ranking Minority Members and rank-and-file Members of several different House and Senate Committees, trying to get HOA antenna reform added to 9/11 legislation in Committee -- but we failed.
Now the 9/11 bills are out of Committee and our only remaining hope is a vote on the Senate floor and/or the House floor, where every legislator is equal. So why NOT try to motivate HOA antenna reform supporters to contact every single legislator? Every single legislator will be voting on the 9/11 bills that we are trying to amend.
YES, it's a "long shot", but what have we got to lose? At least we are sending the message that we are FIGHTERS on this issue. The ONLY alternative I can see is to "throw in the towel" and wait for 2005. I think NAC owes its Members more than that!!
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Re MONEY as a restraining factor:
Personally, I don't feeling guilty about failing so many times in 2004. After all, I TRIED -- which is more than I can say about SOME people who claim to support HOA antenna reform -- and I gave the goal 110%. I don't think anyone who has worked with me on this issue will question the accuracy of that statement.
I can think of others in NAC who could make similar statements, starting with Executive Director JERRY AGLIATA.
While TIME is a major restraining factor NOW, it wasn't a major inhibitor during most of 2004. Our CONSTANT problem has been lack of enough Members and lack of enough money. The two shortages tend to go together.
At present, NAC has been getting by with several dozen Members and a budget in the low four figures. To function effectively in Washington, we really need a budget in the low FIVE figures -- at an absolute minimum. We have fought on anyway -- because people who want to stay free (or become free) have to fight to defend their freedom with whatever they have handy. And that's what we did.
But fighting with what we had handy meant that we had to settle for "second best" lobbying, or even "third best" lobbying, when we needed much more but couldn't afford it. For example: I believe NAC would have been much more effective if we could have afforded several lobbying trips to Washington for one-on-one lobbying of selected Committee Chairs, Ranking Minority Members, FCC Commissioners and so on. But that would have run us $10,000 or more, which we didn't have. Even better would have been a suburban Washington OFFICE, with a full-time lobbyist (such as me) paid a decent full-time salary. But THAT would have run us $100,000 or more ...
The irony here is that we could HAVE our $100,000 if every one of the active hams in America would send us 33 cents every year. Or if every Member of ARRL sent us 60 cents. But instead of 300,000 active American hams "chipping in" half the cost of a candy bar, or 170,000 ARRL Members "chipping in" the cost of a daily newspaper, we have to depend on less than 100 NAC Members digging deep into their wallets -- in a futile effort to make up for the lack of support from Everyone Else.
Anyway ...
I don't mean to run on and on about NAC's lack of resources. I'm just trying to explain that NAC can't provide Cadillac representation if people won't pitch in enough Dues and/or donations to get us a broken down Yugo.
And remember ...
NAC is, at present, The Only Game In Town for those who REALLY want ORGANIZED ACTION for HOA antenna reform. Things may change in the future, and I hope they will, but right now Nobody Is Out There On The Battlefield But Us.
So ...
If YOU support HOA antenna reform, then please Put Some Money Where Your Mouth Is. If you won't, then please don't complain about the fact that "second best" lobbying is the best NAC can do right now.
73,
Don Schellhardt
NATIONAL ANTENNA CONSORTIUM (NAC)
45 Bracewood Road
Waterbury, Connecticut 06706
pioneerpath@hotmail.com
203/757-1790
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by K4RAF on October 4, 2004
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"If YOU support HOA antenna reform, then please Put Some Money Where Your Mouth Is..."
Now we are getting to the heart of the matter, 79 pages later... Money, Money, MOney, just like ARRL Jr...
ZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz..........
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by W6TH on October 6, 2004
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One ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
Remember that W6TH told you this.
If you will excuse me, I see a soldier standing at my front door and he is armed with a RPG.
."ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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by KB1JTE on October 6, 2004
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In checking the US House of Rep site - it appears no vote was taken the week of 9/27/04 to date. Has Spring 04 status of referred to the sub-committee. I guess it isn't of much interest in Congress ! That's a sad statement as many ham operators in the USA give so much to emergency operations or would like to.
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by NN6EE on October 10, 2004
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Nothing new there JTE!!!
Our legislators in government do not listen to well-thoughtout complaints or gripes just like the ARRL does'nt either!!!
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by W8NSI on October 11, 2004
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Another point to ponder... is your legislator being term limited out? Some of them take on the mantle of the Lame Duck Superman unless they have ambitions of moving on to another legislative office. Here in my district, my state house representative is unresponsive as he will be leaving office shortly. He is unashamedly unresponsive and will probably not be elected from this district for anything again.
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by CALLSIGNPENDING on October 12, 2004
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Yes, the NATIONAL ANTENNA CONSORTIUM (NAC) has to spend money, and therefore has to raise money, to get things done.
How many organizations can do anything WITHOUT spending money?
NAC can get a lot more done in 2005 if it has more money, and Members, than it had in 2004. If it doesn't, NAC will just do what it did this year: As much as it can with the resources it has.
With or without more money For The Cause, the pressure for action on HOA antenna reform isn't going to go away.
73,
Don Schellhardt
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by CALLSIGNPENDING on October 13, 2004
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Re the stated belief of some that hams don't have the clout to put up a fight on HOA antenna reform and/or BPL:
1. Hams are, collectively, one of those 500 pound guerillas who can sleep anywhere they want to ... once they REALIZE that they're a 500 pound guerilla!!
The key word is "collectively". Can you imagine Congress completely ignoring 300,000 active, angry hams if they all ORGANIZED to "turn up the heat"? 300,000 messages (an average of roughly 600 messages for each of the 535 U.S. Senators and U.S. Representatives) arriving all at once, demanding action? PLUS even more messages from the friends, neighbors and family members of hams? AND MAYBE EVEN 300,000 requests for personal meetings at each legislator's local office when he or she comes home? THAT would be noticed.
You know what would ALSO be noticed by Congress?? $10 a head from each individual active ham ($3 million total) for lobbying ... PLUS maybe another $10 a head ($3 million more) for individual campaign contributions that help friends of ham radio to get re-elected and foes of ham radio to get defeated. THAT would be noticed, too!! I assure you.
Of course, both initiatives would require all active hams to GET ORGANIZED ... pull together ... yell toward Washington in a single chorus of voices ... AND add to the costs of their ham radio participation an annual "political action" donation averaging less than the cost of an afternoon at the movies for two, with popcorn and soda.
2. Hams don't have to stand alone. I know it is a tradition for hams to hold non-hams at arm's length, but this tradition can be a real disadvantage in the NUMBERS GAME of modern American politics.
Even if FORMAL coalitions and OFFICIAL affiliations are avoided, there is no reason why hams should not share lobbying information with -- and coordinate timing with -- shortwavers, CBers, "first responders" and others who are On The Same Side At The Same Time.
If you like the thought of 300,000 active hams all pounding on the walls of the Capitol Dome(symbolically) at the same time, think about the impact of 300,000 active hams AND 100,000+ shortwavers AND 5,000,000+ CBers!!
But that kind of bridgebuilding has got to start with SOME level of information sharing, joint targeting, logistical coordination and so on. NASWA has already shown to NAC some willingness to work with hams, SELECTIVELY, on BPL. Why not reach out to OTHER groups -- on BPL and OTHER issues, too??
3. Finally, in their contacts with politicians, hams (AND, if they get involved, shortwavers and CBers, too!!) need to talk more about the needs of COMMUNITIES and less about the value of these activities to the participants themselves. Ham radio DOES serve the cause of emergency preparedness, and national security with it, and the same can be said of shortwave radio and even CB radio. This is THE TRUTH -- not a "spin". We can say it in good conscience. So why DON'T we say it more often??
If politicians really learn to see these issues as a choice between pleasing some electric utility on BPL, and pleasing some realtors on HOA antenna reform, OR saving lives, how easy is it going to be for those politicians to place the wishes of special interests over the lives of some of their own constituents??
The reason it's easy for politicians to make such a choice NOW is because it isn't clear to Everyday Americans that THIS is really the choice that is being made. For that matter, it probably isn't clear to 9 out of 10 of the politicians, either.
It's up to us to make The Real Choice clear to The Politicians -- and visible to The People. FCC Chairman Powell knows what he's doing, of course, and will likely never be persuaded to change his mind, but the vast majority of politicians are still uninformed enough on these issues to leave plenty of room for "learning curves". Once we get to THAT point, where most politicians are climbing "learning curves" on the BPL issue and the HOA antenna reform issue, the battles will become much easier for us to win.
Still:
This "educational process" will take time AND energy AND money. The tasks will remain "slow going" IF, as is now the case, only a handful of citizens join the battles. 300,000 hams, however? PLUS their friends, neighbors and family members? AND maybe 100,000+ shortwavers? Plus THEIR friends, neighbors and family members? AND MAYBE EVEN 5,000,000+ CBers (and Company)? Now THAT'S A Winning Team!!!!
73,
Don Schellhardt
pioneerpath@hotmail.com
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RE: An Invitation To Critics Of HOA Reform
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by CALLSIGNPENDING on October 13, 2004
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I'd like to close my string of responses to postings with what I hope to be a constructive suggestion.
Some hams, in this thread and others, have claimed that there is no moral justification for HOA antenna reform -- that is, for government overrides of HOA rules and/or restrictive covenants -- because "the marketplace" offers other alternatives for those who want to put up ham antennas. Specifically, some have asserted, hams can buy a home outside of an HOA-controlled neighborhood AND/OR "negotiate" around the HOA antenna ban when they bargain over the contract for their home.
I must admit that, in my experience, these options seem to be illusions. For example: When I lived in the Northern Virginia suburbs of Washington, D.C., I couldn't find ANY homes on the market that DIDN'T have HOAs and/or covenants (other than some older, and much pricier, "Inside The Beltway" neighborhoods near the urban core). And I never heard of a single case where someone was able to "negotiate" HOA restrictions with a developer ... In this respect, the housing contracts were a "take-it-or-leave-it" situation for homebuyers.
NEVERTHELESS, perhaps some of these critics of HOA antenna reform know some exceptions to what certainly seems to be The Rule in HOA-infested areas.
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So here is my invitation to those critics:
(A) Could you give us some SPECIFIC, "REAL WORLD" EXAMPLES of HOA-infested areas (such as Northern Virginia or Southern California or Colorado) where people were nevertheless able to find HOA-free neighborhoods? Where were these HOA-free communities located, relative to the HOA-controlled communities? Were there major "tradeoffs" in the age of the housing, the length of the commute or other "quality of life" factors? If not, HOW were these HOA-free communities found by those who found them?
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(B) Could you give us some SPECIFIC, "REAL WORLD" EXAMPLES where people "negotiated away" an antenna ban tied to HOA regulations and/or a restrictive covenant? I'd like to TALK to these people. I'd like to talk to their LAWYERS even more!! And I'd like to know the names of the specific HOA-controlled communities that were willing to be flexible.
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I am serious.
If there are HOA-controlled communities that are willing to bargain with individual homebuyers about antenna bans, let's get their names posted on an Honor Roll on this Web Site!!
If there are lawyers with a "track record" for handling such negotiations, successfully, let's get THEIR names up here as well.
And let's hear directly from the hams who beat the odds.
Having this information posted Up Here may not convince me to drop my support for HOA antenna reform legislation ... but it might lead to "damage mitigation" for some EHAM participants, until the bans themselves are modified.
If finding an HOA-free community in a large metropolitan area, and/or "negotiating away" an HOA antenna ban, is really as easy as some have said ... then let's hear the names and the stories of those who actually did it.
73,
Don Schellhardt
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When Your Legislator Ignores You...
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by W5MEJ on October 15, 2004
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K4RAF said...
"I still have a feeling there is some snookering taking place here. Maybe this is the way they do it on The Hill but I still question the connections of both the Alliance & Consortium to "microbroadcasters" (pirates) & tower builders in this "movement". I have read both sites entirely & find it a bit unsettling that hams are sucked in by this whole "in our name" charade. Just look at who is supporting both sites."
I agree with that statement, RAF. I've also read through all the info on the sites, and I just have an uncomfortable feeling about the agenda of this group. Certain items on the NAC website bother me because of the vague wording that mentions zoning for "tower siting" and "antenna farms." Somehow the wording of some of the objectives of the group seem to say "we support towers, but not in my neighborhood." The subjects of BPL and HOAs seems to be done as a political move to drum up support from amateurs. Keep in mind that the ARRL has repeatedly denied requests from this group for political alliance.
So, Mr. Callsign Pending, Esquire...can you clarify the position of the NAC a little bit? Can you also tell me why that callsign has been pending for so long?
73
Chuck
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