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Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15

Philip Neidlinger (KA4KOE) on November 3, 2004
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This Month's Stiff: Charles Proteus Steinmetz

Entered Mortal Coil: 9 April 1865

Assumed Room Temperature: 26 October 1923

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The Mighty Midget

Good things often come in small packages. I'm sure we've all heard this old saying quite a few times. In this particular instance, Proteus immigrated to the United States on July 1, 1889, as a result of the repression of radical thinkers and writers in his former home of Breslau, Germany.

Steinmetz was only four feet tall. Apparently this was the result of a physical deformity acquired at birth, which he may have inherited from his father, Karl, who was also crippled. Steinmetz's middle name, Proteus, is also the Greek god of mythology who could assume any shape or size.

Steinmetz was a brilliant electrical engineer. A common problem around the turn of the century was that no one really fully understood how generators or electric motors worked in detail. Often, an electrical device was built with no definitive engineering design work being performed by the manufacturer. If the gadget ran well and didn't go boom, then it was marketed. However, this process was often hit or miss at best. Needless to say, the whole process had a lot of overhead built into it.

What Proteus did to help out with this sad state of electrical affairs was to codify and explain the laws governing alternating current via the use of complex numbers. During a seminal lecture given to the International Electrical Congress in 1893, Steinmetz explained his calculations and thoughts to a group of engineers, who basically had very little understanding of the material being presented. Proteus co-wrote a “Theory and Calculation of Alternating Current Phenomena” with Ernst J. Berg in 1897. The engineering world didn't digest this little tome either. The apparent problem at the time was that engineering schools were not requiring an adequate amount of advanced mathematics instruction in their curriculums. Proteus met this problem head on, and wrote textbooks to educate the engineers so they could understand what in the heck he was talking about!!! The poor chaps didn't have the proper tools to begin with!

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Albert Einstein and Steinmetz

Charles was a longtime employee of General Electric, and was considered a major asset to the company. Without Proteus' numerical calculations, it would have been impossible to construct the electrical generators at the first power plant in the United States, located at Niagara Falls. The modern power generation and distribution industry would not be what it is today without Proteus' pioneering work.

Steinetz's other achievements included an explanation of the laws governing hysteresis in magnetic materials and the invention of the metal halide high-intensity discharge lamp, which is a ubiquitous “fixture” along our roadways. In all, the Mighty Midget held over 200 patents.

Proteus was a pugnacious individual, but he had a heart of gold. There is a story about Steinmetz that may not be true, but anyway it goes like this…..

Here's an interesting anecdote, as told by Charles M. Vest, President of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, during commencement on June 4th, 1999. "In the early years of this century, Steinmetz was brought to General Electric's facilities in Schenectady, New York. GE had encountered a performance problem with one of their huge electrical generators and had been absolutely unable to correct it. Steinmetz, a genius in his understanding of electromagnetic phenomena, was brought in as a consultant - not a very common occurrence in those days, as it would be now. Steinmetz also found the problem difficult to diagnose, but for some days he closeted himself with the generator, its engineering drawings, paper and pencil. At the end of this period, he emerged, confident that he knew how to correct the problem. After he departed, GE's engineers found a large "X" marked with chalk on the side of the generator casing. There also was a note instructing them to cut the casing open at that location and remove so many turns of wire from the stator. The generator would then function properly. And indeed it did. Steinmetz was asked what his fee would be. Having no idea in the world what was appropriate, he replied with the absolutely unheard of answer that his fee was $1000. Stunned, the GE bureaucracy then required him to submit a formally itemized invoice. They soon received it. It included two items: 1. Marking chalk "X" on side of generator: $1. 2. Knowing where to mark chalk "X": $999."

In his spare time, Proteus like to grow unusual plants in his greenhouse; the uglier the better. He was almost never seen without one of his favorite Blackstone panetella cigars. Another story about the inventor relates to his reaction to GE's new anti-smoking policy, to which he replied, “If the cigar goes, Steinmetz goes!”

Steinmetz never married. Apparently he was afraid he would pass his disability on to any offspring. However, children loved him, and he helped out those less fortunate than himself whenever possible. The man was genuinely loved by those who knew him.

73

Philip Neidlinger, PE

KA4KOE

Internet References:

“Dead Electrical Dudes” are
© 2004 Philip Neidlinger

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Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by K2WH on October 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
They aren't dudes...........

K2WH
 
Good News Kids!  
by KA4KOE on October 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Good News....or bad, depending on your opinion:

No shortage of DEDs is anticipated.....There are lots more....check this out:

D'Arsonval
Braun
Baudot
Farnsworth
Gilbert
Kirchoff
Lodge
Millikan
Oersted
Popov
Siemens
Weber
Wheatshone
Yagi/Uda
Zworykin

Have I left anyone out? Speak up! We're going to drag this out until the collective ham community comes up my street with torches screaming for my red blood!

Feeleep
 
RE: Good News Kids!  
by K3ESE on October 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Notwithstanding assertions to the contrary, they certainly are dudes! And dead. Steinmetz, in particular, was a dude of the highest degree, albeit a miniscule one. Very nice job, Feee-Leeep.
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by WA2JJH on November 1, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
well for the record...i did post first they were dudes!!!!!!!!

EITHER A COMPUTER GLITCH OR MIKE THAUGHT I SHOULD NOR RUIN A RUNNING JOKE!

i DID POST FIRST...THAT THEY WERE DUDES!
NO SWEAT. EITHER COMPUTER SCREWED UP OR MIKES KARMIC SENSE OF HUMOR.
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by WA2JJH on November 1, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
A BELATED/RETRO-ACTIVE.....THEY WERE DUDES!!!!!!!!
Remeber Philip I have an email saying I was going to beat BILL-WH weeks ago.

I have the moral victory, you got an editorial assisted first shot shallow victory!!!!!!!!

So there!
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by KG4RUL on November 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Excellent! {strums air guitar]

Dennis / KG4RUL
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by KB1IVU on November 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
His grandson changed his name and is now a famous broadcaster for ESPN...Charlie Steiner
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by NN0B on November 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Wow! He really WAS a genius if he could have a Grandson without having any children.

--Steve, NNØB
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by KA4KOE on November 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Also.....

Let's include Edison and Hiram Percy Maxim in this esteemed list of future possible DUDES.

Note the glaring lack of Sarnoff. This is intentional.

Feeeleep
 
ONLY IN THE US CAN THIS BE DONE !  
by KB7LYM on November 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Become a father, have children, grandchildren without sex.

Maybe Trolls can but ........???????

A true statement



I developed a father-son relationship with my lab assistant, Joseph Le Roy Hayden. Hayden and his wife eventually moved in with me. After Joseph's first son Joe was born, I legally adopted Joseph as my son. Midge and Billy were born, giving me three grandchildren.
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by KC8VWM on November 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!

>>> Notwithstanding assertions to the contrary, they certainly are dudes! And dead. <<<

I would have to respectfully disagree with your attestation in contrast of your discernment or terminological inexactitude to any cadaverous rejectamenta inferred.

The magnetic and voltaic luminary eminence in character remains subjectively vivacious.

73

Charles - KC8VWM
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by K3ESE on November 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
>>>The magnetic and voltaic luminary eminence in character remains subjectively vivacious.<<<

and yet, ineluctably, incontrovertably and essentially
a dude.
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by K0BG on November 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
My dad graduated from Kansas University in 1928 with a BS in Industrial Engineering. I have several of his old college text books. Two of them were written by Steinmetz. They are still excellent text books.

Alan, KØBG
www.k0bg.com
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by KC8VWM on November 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!

>>Become a father, have children, grandchildren without sex." ?

Steinmetz not only had an engineering degree, but he was also quite a ladies man.

The dude was apparently a greenhorn rodeo wrangler and professional cowcamp beans and wieners gormet by night.

Rumor has it that the dude saddled up on some dude ranch located somewhere in the mountain foothills of Wisconsin complete with riding cactus cowgirls.

But who knows, I could be wrong about the dude...

:)










 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by WA1RNE on November 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!

This brilliant guy should be very high on our list: Edwin Armstrong.

Without him, 3 key inventions might not have been realized or delayed for some time: the Regenerative and Superheterodyne receivers and FM.

He was also the first person to provide a technically sound description of the operating characteristics of the deForest Audion or what came to be known as the triode. (deForest didn't have a clue)

Armstrong's genius can be further quantified in some simple but very significant terms:

* Imagine the effect on major world events such as the first and second world wars had his inventions been delayed several years or not realized at all?

* How would the broadcast industry have evolved and how would this change in the way media is delivered have affected our lives?

* What would be the state of amateur radio today?

Here's his story; There are many hours of reading here: http://users.erols.com/oldradio/index.htm#Y

73, Chris

 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by KA4KOE on November 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Armstrong was done long ago; he was DED 3, and the link is

http://www.eham.net/articles/6974

Thanks for the comments!

Feeeleeep
 
Chill-rens  
by KA4KOE on November 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Yes.....

Steinmetz adopted a young engineer, and treated his children as his grandchildren. So yes, he had a family.

Steinmetz single-handedly gave a gift to every orphan in his town at Christmas....not included in the essay, but definitely proof he was a giving sort.

The specific ailment according to my research was dwarfism, which in some instances does carry some significant health risks, and is definitely passed along in the genes......

Charles, please correct my health statements if I am in error or mistaken.

tnx

Fee-leeep
 
RE: Chill-rens  
by W4CNG on November 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
The Pun-miester's computer must be broke, where's JSR??
Steve W4CNG
Still voting for more DED's, especially after yesterdays votes.......
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by KK7WN on November 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
My father was a G.E. research engineer working with some of Steinmetz's colleagues. He was told that Steinmetz did not actually have a predefined salary for some time. He was told to just write checks against a G. E. account whenever he needed money. The G. E. executives believed that this was less costly to the company than a salary, since Steinmetz tended to be a frugal person. So much for decency and fair play in the Executive Suites!
 
RE: Chill-rens  
by KC8VWM on November 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Philip and Others,

On a more serious note, you are correct in your statement. My clinical background might be helpful in explaining the social and clinical implications of this disease for the benefit and clarification for the readers.

Charles Steinmetz was often described as a "congenital cripple." These are often "disorders" that can be traced in part to genetic factors and were relatively common in Germany during the 1880's.

During the same time when he immigrated to the United States in 1889, the subject had wider social implications and was perhaps the very reason why he left Germany.

He "officially" described his reasons for leaving Germany as "rejection" on the basis of his "radical thinking", but it is difficult to verify this information for certain.

It was a common mentality in the 1880's to see immigration of ethnic minorities from southern and eastern Europe and other countries on the grounds that the "Nordic" types from northern and western Europe parts were somehow genetically superior.

The Eugenics Sterilization Law of 1933 in Nazi Germany ultimately led to the compulsory sterilization of at least 250,000 men and women deemed
"hereditarily defective".

Toward the end of the Nazi regime,compulsory sterilization was dispensed with, and millions of people were killed on the basis of this disease.

Even US state legislatures pushed for the passage of laws for the forcible sterilization of "hereditary defectives" that immigrated into the United States during the time.

In 1907, Indiana became the first state to adopt such a compulsory sterilization law.

Currently there are 522 tpes of "verified" dwarfism diseases in existance. More prominently the most striking manifestations are short stature and changes in the bones of the hands and feet. This is called acrodysplasia.

This represents characteristic changes in the spinal and pelvic regions but not to be confused with muscular dystrophy or Russell Silver syndrome or Hallermann Streiff syndrome that often displays similar physical characteristics.

Often patients exhibit one leg shorter than the other with a pelvic tilt abnomality associated with lumbar scoliosis. (twisting of the spine)

What I find particularly interesting and what is a little know fact, is that Charles Steinmetz, is well recognized for advancing the alternating current that helps prevent, detect, diagnose, and treat disease and disability in modern medicine as we know it today.

I hope that was educational.

73

Charles - KC8VWM
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by AH6RR on November 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Another good post Feeeleeep, just super. How about adding Bill Orr to your list of Dudes? Just a thought.


Thanks again
Roland AH6RR
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by SM0AOM on November 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Another high in the DED biography series.
Keep up the good work, Philip!

A suggestion to the list of coming DED articles:

Steinmetz' disciple
Ernst FW Alexanderson
(electrical machinery, high-frequency alternators)

Valdemar Poulsen
(arc transmitter, magnetic recordings)

The Varian brothers (klystron oscillator/amplifier)

Frederick E Terman (of Radio Engineer's Handbook fame)



73/

Karl-Arne
SM0AOM

 
Drivel !  
by HFHAM2 on November 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Not more of this boring unfunny drivel.

I'm hoping that KA4KOE will be the next "Dead Electrical Dude".
 
RE: Drivel !  
by KL7IPV on November 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Great article. I wonder with all his knowledge, was he ever a ham?
Frank
 
RE: Chill-Wrens  
by K4JSR on November 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Steve, the Repeater god, said,"The Pun-miester's computer must be broke, where's JSR??
Steve W4CNG
Still voting for more DED's, especially after yesterdays votes......."

Confuser is not broken. As you know, I am rather politically involved. I have found that real politics,
with real politicians is far friendlier than politics
on a ham radio forum. Been real busy and still have
to go and pick up all of the old campaign signs before
Barrow County Clean and Beautiful starts whining.
Funny how they never complain about the Real Estate
signs, male enhancement, life insurance, etc signs!
But we get all of the the old signs up, ours and
"theirs". And except for a few run-off elections in
Georgia on 11/23, am happy that the elections are over
and that a few of us can start being nice to one another again.

Just to keep Steve and Feeeeee-lep happy, I do think
that the subject "RE: Chill-Wrens" is a CHEEP shot
and a cold thing to say.
To JJH, we ate as much of the Ham Sandwich conspiracy
as we could at our Victory Party last night. Just a
little "RYE" humor for you..
Charles, You continue to amaze me with your breadth
of knowledge and experience. Your commentary on
Dwarfism sure caught me short!
Back to the real world for a while. TATA for now!
Cal K4JSR
 
FYI  
by KA4KOE on November 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
http://www.twiar.org

Programs 598 and 602, Volta and Tesla already aired; third weekend of every month.
 
RE: Drivel !  
by K4JSR on November 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
HFHAM2, you have the morals and courage of a complete
idiot. What you just posted could be interptreted as
a threat, you gutless wonder.
Cal Neff K4JSR.
I am good in the Call registry. Why don't you come
after me, you girlie-twerp?
 
RE: Drivel !  
by WB2WIK on November 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Another great DED.

I had no idea of Steinmetz's stature, this really caught me short. *Ouch*

Looking forward to more.
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by KD5WMI on November 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I suppose same to be true of Tesla? i.e., that he has been covered in previous DED's?

73
KD5WMI
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by K6OHH on November 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I really like the DED series.
How about Léon Charles Thévenin
and
Hermann von Helmholtz

Philip please keep this up.
Very educational to know the personal data on the things/ people we studied in (EE) school.

Bob k6ohh
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by G0GQK on November 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Just a simple question really, what the hell has this to do with amateur radio ?
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by K3CXG on November 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Philip: You may want to add Dr. Mahlon Loomis to your list of future "dudes" (and they are indeed dudes!). I really enjoy this series, and as for the trolls, don't let them give you any static!

Mike K3CXG
and the Dashboard DX Society
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by W4SK on November 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Ah, yes, but was he ever Amateur of the Year?
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by W3DCG on November 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
4 foot tall guy wonder!
This article is well done, complete- informative, entertaining.

I wish I'd had teachers like you.

Thanks, Philip.

73.
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by W3DCG on November 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
KK7WN and KC8VWM,
It would have been great having teachers like
you, too.
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by KA4KOE on November 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Thevenin's Theorem....I had completely forgotten about him!!! Basic circuit analysis....AND Norton as well. BUT, if they're still alive, I canna do 'em, laddie.

I don't worry about trolls anymore. I just let my friends Cal, Mike, Charles, and our webmaster deal with the more intransigent and obscene ones....the bomb throwing, nihilistic, numbed cerebral anarchists. My friends on this forum are my attack dogs. I just sit back and watch the fun, lest my clothes be soiled in the rough and tumble.

 
Tesla, ie "Sparky"  
by KA4KOE on November 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Yep, done Tesla too. He was DED 2. For a quick link to all of the DED articles, go to

http://home.comcast.net/~ka4koe/

Enjoy.

Fee-leep
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by KF4VGX on November 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Hats off to FEE LIP again !
I enjoy reading DED .

A nice change of pace !
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by KQ6EA on November 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Another great read, as usual. You should compile these into a book. They'd be entertaining and informative to the young uns out there that lack the prejudice of some of the eHam members.
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by KC8VWM on November 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
"My friends on this forum are my attack dogs."

Grrrrrr...
 
RE: Drivel !  
by HFHAM2 on November 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!

There's nothing girlie or twerpish about me K4JSR.

You on the other hand are, I notice, always sticking-up for your "friend" KA4KOE here. Methinks it's maybe more than friendship ( ! )
 
My buddy pal Cal...  
by KA4KOE on November 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Cal and I and our respective brides met and broke bread at a Ruth's Chris near the Omni in Atlanta this past June whilst I was at a trade show. Best darn steak I ever put in my mouth.

Great guy, great puns, true to a fault, and man can he clean a table. Republican too.

Cal is not an attack dog, he's a sweat attack hog.

 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by KF4VGX on November 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Good things often come in small packages. I'm sure we've all heard this old saying quite a few times. In this particular instance, Proteus immigrated to the United States on July 1, 1889, as a result of the repression of radical thinkers and writers in his former home of Breslau, Germany. etc,

“Dead Electrical Dudes” are
© 2004 Philip Neidlinger


......


RE: Chill-rens Reply
by KC8VWM on November 3, 2004
Philip and Others,

On a more serious note, you are correct in your statement. My clinical background might be helpful in explaining the social and clinical implications of this disease for the benefit and clarification for the readers.

Charles Steinmetz was often described as a "congenital cripple." These are often "disorders" that can be traced in part to genetic factors and were relatively common in Germany during the 1880's. etc,

KC8VWM


..............


Good reads on both accounts, now you might want to consider swapping your life style for two weeks !

Just to see how the other lives !

Sorry Guys, Watching to much TV lately !




 
Literal Gold mine of Info-Nuggets  
by KA4KOE on November 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
That's Charles alright. He's always saying something interesting. I forwarded his post to my MS RN wife....she said it sounded good to her.

Feeleep

 
RE: Drivel !  
by K4JSR on November 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Well hi there, GIRLIE-TWERP2.
You poor thing! Into denial like you are! No identity.
No name. No call. No ham license. No discernible sex.
No testosterone. Totally asexual.
All of that and nothing to live for.
You poor miserable wretch. No wonder you are so hate
filled. Nobody loves you and you love nobody.
You have gotten my pity for your efforts.
Not even an Islamic Jihadist would bother executing
you as that would end your misery. You must have
really worked hard to be as useless as your anonymous
self is. Enjoy the fruits of your labors, jerk.
Have a nice day, you gutless weenie.
Oh yeah, BITE ME!
Cal K4JSR
 
RE: Drivel !  
by KC8VWM on November 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
HFHAM2 Says;

"There's nothing girlie or twerpish about me K4JSR."

So, you are one of those Metrosexual types then?

You just can't keep us guessing like this!! Pleeeze, put some info in your profile about yourself!?

You can even start with this photo if you like:

http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/graphics/kerry_girlieman.jpg


Charles - KC8VWM
 
RE: Literal Gold mine of Info-Nuggets  
by KC8VWM on November 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!

"Good reads on both accounts, now you might want to consider swapping your life style for two weeks ! "


Well, thanks! I think I may have asked Philip about this once, but his wife had objections. Besides, I would probobly be seen just using up his radio equipment the whole time I was there.

Probobly wouldn't make for a very good TV episode, unless of course it broadcasted directly over the "Lifetime" channel.

But then of course it would be called the "Electrical Dude Channel."

Hmmmm... Any TV producers in here?


Stay Tuned Dudes... Don't touch that VFO!

:)

73

Charles - KC8VWM
 
RE: Drivel !  
by K4JSR on November 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Hey Charles, Hash Faced Hack 2 won't look at this URL:
http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/graphics/kerry_girlieman.jpg

It said girlieman and he, she, they,it knows they are
are a girlie twerp. HFH2's momma did not have twins,
She had twerplets! Of course when speaking of asexual anonymous trolls you can only speak in
genderalities. Since HFH2 has no name we must assume
that HFH2 is a combination of all possible combinations of genders. Maybe we are better off not
seeing what HFH2 looks like. The picture could be in
the categorey of TMI!
You do know that HFH2 was not born. HFH2 was assembled
by a committee.

73, Cal K4JSR
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by VK2XCD on November 4, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
You might consider Oliver Heaviside for a future DED.

Regards

Chris VK2XCD
 
A Confession...  
by KA4KOE on November 4, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I gave K2WH the heads up on this article so he could make his obigatory "They aren't dudes" statement. He complained on a couple of occasions that he never could get his comment in first. Felt sorry for the man. As you can see, he hopped on it pronto.

I enjoy the good, fun, hearty banter on these forums!

P
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by KC8VWM on November 4, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Famous electrical dudes:

"Art Collins" - Collins Radio Company

"Arthur C. Clarke" - Sattelite Comunications

"Greenleaf Whittier Pickard" - First Crystal Radio Set

"Edwin Howard Armstrong" - FM Radio


"Henry" "Hartley" "ColPitts" "Clapp" "Vackar" to name a few.


73 Dudes

Charles - KC8VWM
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by KQ6EA on November 4, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Arthur C. Clarke is still alive and well.
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by K3ESE on November 4, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Cal - seriously...have your meds checked. Either that or see if you can find a life, somewhere. Eh?
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by KC8VWM on November 4, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
"Arthur C. Clarke is still alive and well."

I know, he was just too cool to pass up.. :)


 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by K4JSR on November 4, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
ESE said, "Cal - seriously...have your meds checked. Either that or see if you can find a life, somewhere. Eh?"

Lloyd, I have found a life and am quite content with it, thankyewverymuch. Unless you are the one who calls itself HFHAM2, I don't recall addressing any comments to you. Why don't you get a life and not make fun of other people's religious views as you have done on previous posts. That was one of the things that defeated your candidate for President.
If you do not like what I write to an anonymous trolling jerk, then don't read it. Remember, you are
the liberal who is tolerant of all other views.
Try showing it sometime. You may start liking yourself again and resume being the Lloyd we used to like also.
Now, please, go force yourself to have a nice day and a nice life, Lloyd. Save you hate for terrorists,
anti code people, and anonymous trolls. Some of us
would certainly appreciate it.

73, Cal K4JSR

PS. If you were a friend of mine, as KOE, VWM and JJH
are, I would come to your defense also. If that is
needing meds, then go turn in your Rx writing license. Oh yeah, you can still go and have a nice
day!
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by K3ESE on November 4, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Whooo-eee, Cal! What a furious torrent...chill out, my friend...8^D
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by WA2JJH on November 4, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
hey lets just ignore trolls. Cal, you have a mind. Do not wAste it with HFHAM2. IGNORE. DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by WA2JJH on November 4, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
hey lets just ignore trolls. Cal, you have a mind. Do not wAste it with HFHAM2. IGNORE. DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by KA4KOE on November 4, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Charles:

Armstrong - Been there, done that, DED 3.

P
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by WA2JJH on November 4, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
hey lets just ignore trolls. Cal, you have a mind. Do not wAste it with HFHAM2. IGNORE. DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by WA2JJH on November 4, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
HF2ham...many would not care if you were not electrical or a dude. The first parameter is fine .

You will be ignored from now on.
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by WA2JJH on November 4, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
HF2ham...many would not care if you were not electrical or a dude. The first parameter is fine .

You will be ignored from now on.
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by WA6BFH on November 4, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I quite agree on the decision not to include Sarnoff! Do you think that it might be Ok to include John Galt?

Seriously, I really enjoyed No. 15!
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by TECH2004 on November 4, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
he looks like mini-me.
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by N3AIU on November 4, 2004 Mail this to a friend!

How about Grey, the inventor of Grey codes and loser to A.G. Bell for the first telephone patent?

Being a RTTY neophyte, I'm also "waiting for Baudot" ...

73, Nick N3AIU
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by K4JSR on November 4, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Lloyd, if I had taken your advice I would be a liberal
instead of a cool conservative. Please take your own
chill pill and cool off yourself. Just remember,
"FOUR MORE YEARS!" :-)
Also while "chilling out", go see a good movie like
"Stolen Honor" or "Fahranhype 4/11". Those might put
you in a more calm state of being.
Tata for now, Cal K4JSR
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by K4JSR on November 4, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Hey TECH2004 How about telling Lloyd, K3ESE, AKA dit dididit dit, how great life would be for him if he joined NCI. Who knows, you may gain a loyal convert! :-P
Not that I would ever, ever troll you two.
Trust me! Really! I am a nice guy when I am not out
nuking whales, clubbing baby seals, burning down rain
forests and finding ways to eliminate Social Security.
Ask KOE, VWM and JJH. They'll tell you that I am only
mean and nasty when I want to be, or have to be!
Now where's a baby duck to stomp on?.....
I stomp on baby ducks with my bare feet so I'll really
feel down. (Think about it for a moment.)
My other hobby is evicting widows and orphans.
The weather is not bad enough to really enjoy that, yet!
You folks go out there and think up some DEAD Electrical Dudes for Feee lep to write about. We gotta
keep him off of the streets. He is meaner than I am.
Most folks are mistaken when they think that those were hurricanes that hit around Savannah last month!
Like I said earlier, "TRUST ME".
(Wanna by a nice used car? Need a lawyer?)

Bye bye for now all of you happy hams!
Cal K4JSR Tel. BR-549 Tell 'em that I sent ya!

 
Way Off Topic  
by KA4KOE on November 4, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
The klaxon has sounded, Cal. Time to talk about Steinmetz now.

That's a yellow card for you my friend. Two yellow cards equals a red card and you'll be penalized a point. A black card means you're disqualified.

I don't feel down at all....

Although I'm sure for Proteus things were always looking up. Betcha he loved strawberry shortcake, or prickly pears from his greenhouse.

Feee-leeeeep


 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by WA2JJH on November 4, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
ironc- PROTEUS is latin name for great or big one!
Protein is latin for large.
They called proteins large cause of the many amino acids you need to make a protein.

Under 50 amino acids you just have poly peptide bonds.

Lets see if I still have all the 20 amino acids memorised from a recent exam

glysin
tyrosine
glutamine
L-trypofan
arginine
phenalanine
methionon
serline
Oh well.......
Funny how stimetz had a large middle name.


 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by WA2JJH on November 4, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
HFHAM--You wish philip would be the next to be dead
ou are just in envy that philip has his technical side and his creative side.
Not to mention a good sense of humor
What do you offer?

Cal is a wanna be standup comedian.

You ya POS are a troll delux
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by WA2JJH on November 4, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
HFHAM--You wish philip would be the next to be dead
ou are just in envy that philip has his technical side and his creative side.
Not to mention a good sense of humor
What do you offer?

Cal is a wanna be standup comedian.

You ya POS are a troll delux
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by WA2JJH on November 4, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
HFHAM--You wish philip would be the next to be dead
ou are just in envy that philip has his technical side and his creative side.
Not to mention a good sense of humor
What do you offer?

Cal is a wanna be standup comedian.

You ya POS are a troll delux
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by WA2JJH on November 4, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
SORRY FELLOW EHMAMMERS FOR MULTIPLE POSTS. MY KEY KEYBOAD IS BOUNCY
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by KA4KOE on November 5, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Buy a new keyboard Mike. The echo in this forum is terrible.
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by M0AFJ on November 5, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
How about Rutherford and much to the irritation of the Yanks the father of computing Alan Turing!.
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by KA4KOE on November 5, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Man, loads of great ideas here guys. And, I am taking notes!

Tnx

Feeeleeep
 
RE: Chill-rens  
by WA1RNE on November 5, 2004 Mail this to a friend!

Very interesting.....Having an interest in world history and WWII, your additional perspective is probably right on when looking at how he really ended up with GE.

The man obviously made the right decision to get out of Germany while others did not. Can you imagine what he would have thought had he lived long enough to see what happened to Germany and the rest of Europe?

He would certainly not have been treated very well by Heidrich or Himmler and the rest of the Nazi ghools - unless of course he was able to contribute to a wonder weapon program, then he might have hung around for a while.
 
RE: Chilled-Wrens  
by K4JSR on November 5, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I wonder if chilled wrens get Wren bumps?
Oh, back on subject--
Mikee sed, "Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15 Reply
by WA2JJH on November 4, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
SORRY FELLOW EHMAMMERS FOR MULTIPLE POSTS. MY KEY KEYBOAD IS BOUNCY"

I hereby nominate Mikee for Eham Bouncer!

Mike, if you can put multiple posts up in a straight line, I do need to put a new fence up!

On the serious side, an electrical dude who may or may not be dead yet, the guy came to me in a FLASH!
The fellow who invented the electronic Strobe that is
used in flash photography, Automobile timing lights,
tachometers, etc. I am having a "senior moment", but
I believe his name was Edgerton (sp?). His invention
certainly helped us win WWII with aerial photogaraphy
of Axis territory done at night. He also helped found a company that has done many electrical widgets. Also there is Thevenin, whose theorums helped develop "black boxes" (pun intended).

Feee lep, send me no yellow cards. I have lots of
QSL cards that have turned that color already.
Now be nice to me or I'll send you off to play with your TOUCHE TONE Pad on your talkie! (If I can talk about fencing to Mikee, I can talk about it to you!
You can't get me back because as John Cleese of Monty
Python fame said, "This Parry is DEAD!" Hopefully you
get my thrust!

73 and everyone must have a great day. It is mandatory! Cal K4JSR

 
RE: Chilled-Wrens  
by OLDFART13 on November 5, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
http://paratrooper.us/
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by WA2JJH on November 5, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
<<<and everyone must have a great day. It is mandatory! Cal K4JSR<<<<<<<<<<

HEY CAL DONT TELL A NEW YORKER WHAT TO DO!!!!!!!!

IN some parts of NYC you could be stabbed or shot, just for saying that. I mean some of the people in NYC are born with switch blades.

Gee nobody cared about the latin for PROTEOUS and relation to protein and amino acids.

JUST KIDDING!!!! I AM RIPPING OFF CHARLES(VFW) ROUTINE!

Yes we get silly here, but not on the air!
You might learn something too!

Hey VFW lets put in some science trivia
3 people PHILIP(that feelip routine is stupid) has not written about were the 3 dead dudes that invented the transistor!

Willium Shockly is still alive and people wanted his NOBEL prize to be taken away from him!

Shockly the lead engineer at bell labs was one of the three DEDs to have invented the transistor.

He claimed, I am a NOBEL PRIZE winner. My DNA could produce brilliant children. This was not to long after WW2
.
Bad timing because the NAZIS were into EUGENICS big time.

So I elect this trio for a few DEDS

OK Shockly was the emitter
Bradeen was the base
Bratton was the collector.

OOHHH, really crummy play on words.

All 3 of them won the nobel prize in 1948 for the transistor. First called the transresistor.


I fully agree with another poster that thinks SARNOFF should NOT be paid tribute.
He was not an engineer. He just stole patents.
He really screwed over Major Armstrong!

73 DE MIKE and just have a day.

 
Sarnoff  
by KA4KOE on November 5, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I restated my previous position on Sarnoff.

You need to be patient, Mr. Posner. The transistor boys will eventually be done, but hysterically speaking, this is relatively recent.

However, Mr. Heaviside really interests me as the first to postulate about the ionosphere....so he may be next, although his theories were based on empirical evidence.

Fee-leep
 
RE: Sarnoff  
by K4JSR on November 5, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
What about Edgerton?
What about Stephen Gray (1696-1736) who discovered that some substances actually conducted electricity?
How about Charles du Fay, who like a lot of Frenchmen today are great polarizers! He proved that there was two kinds of electricity; Vitreous and Resinous.
All of this preceeded Dr. Ben Franklin's work.
You want to talk about electron flow in a tube?
Ha! Talk about Heinrich Geissler (1814-1879)
or Sir William Crookes (1832-1919).
Better yet, Jean Baptiste Perrin (1870-1942) who proved that the current flow in the above mentioned tubes consisted of negatively charges particles.
Their work was followed by Sir Joseph Thomson and later by Robert A Millikan, who you mentioned in your ealier list on this thread. Before Millikan you've got to show how he got there!
Philip, you silly boy, you thought that the 2004
ELECTRON CYCLE was over, didn't you?! :-P
Just remember that *REAL* current flow is electrons,
not those girlieboy holes!
You could also go into FET's and who worked on their
development. That would certainly ENHANCE our know-
edge. If it would not DEPLETE your SOURCEs, you could
also explain how FETs have brought another dimension to the expression "PINCH OFF".
I hopr this has opened the GATE for your thoughts, sir.

Mikee poo, I will tell anyone from NYC to have a nice
day because look at who their Senator is! :-P
And since you have defied my edict, you must have a
whole week of nice days! Now be nice or I'll have
Janet Reno personally deliver a sack full of White
Castle Gut Bombs to you!

I'm outa here! 73, Cal K4JSR


 
RE: Chilled-Wrens  
by K4JSR on November 5, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
OF13, Thanks! I enjoyed that URL. I have forwarded it to my oldest son who is a "5 jump chump" stuck in
the 101st "LegBorne". Actually, the 101st is a great
outfit. It is just that my son loves to leap out of
perfectly good airplanes! :-P But, when in the Army, you go where the Army tells you to go.
I have forwarded the URL to my son, who will enjoy it also.
73 from another OF (Licensed first in '54!)
Cal K4JSR
Forget-Me-Not Rest QTH, Georgia
 
Dudes  
by KA4KOE on November 5, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I still have basic electrical unit dudes to dude first (d00d?).

Then and only then will I dude others, dude.

Hole flow? That's the majority type current carrier in P type semiconductor material. Boy, that brings back memories.

Philip
Hurricane Alley,
Georgia
 
RE: Dudes  
by KA4KOE on November 5, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
One final thought: there are adequate dudes to get us around 30-40, before we start getting really obscure.

MORE

Weber
Guass
Coulomb
Heaviside
Norton
Thevenin

BTW, Dr. Yagi resembles the Law Giver in the Planet of the Apes. Look it up.
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by WA2JJH on November 6, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
As many pointed out PHILIP(not feelep) would me a good high school electronics/history teacher.
Problem is that teachers get paid crappy wages. An EE makes double that of a teacher.

I have spoke to PHILIP several times about making a high school science book, out of the DED TREADS.

If anyone knows a lit. agent or publisher, contact us.

I think the DED thread attracts the more celebral, as well as comedic HAM.
I just have to kick PHILS butt, when I see him for the attack dog analogy of me! The nerve sitting on his porch watching his attack dogs!. No wonder ya lost the civil war!
Philips DEDS are published in many Ham club mags.
Philip also took his swill to this week in ham radio.
Perhaps we are breading future JEAN SHEPPARDS.

Sheppard was a ham tht got his stories on WOR. A 50kilowatt clear channel AM staion. Well JEAN K2ORS-SK
left a hole in AM radio. To be replaced by shock jocks.

So one can see ham radio is not all about theory.
HAM radio has its share of BDCST AM radio story tellers.

I guess the DED TREAD is a mix of the history channel, A&E, PBS, the comedy channel and the Discovery channel.

PHIL Do you want a round house or a cresent kick for your remark. Maybe a simple NYC sucker punch!
Just kidding. Parts of NYC where I grew up, martial arts are a needed skill.

We all have stories to tell! Truth is stranger than fiction! Ham Radio can be an outlet for such matters.

Could you imagine that people used to buy shortwave
RVRS to hear HAMS! The old eastern block nations listed to VOA. I guess much potential programming is on the INTERNET.
I built my 100W FM Broadcast transmitter. Just waiting for the FCC to say OK for my LPFM station.
YES PHILIP, I WILL NEED PROGRAMMING FROM YOU. You just aint getting paid!

In GOD we trust....all others pay cash! K2ORS-SK

Keep em coming FEElEEp 73 MIKE WA2JJH
 
Well  
by KA4KOE on November 6, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
The truth hurts Mike. You are now officially one of my minions.

Philip
or Fee-leep
depending on my mood
 
RE: Good News Kids!  
by KB8UFF on November 6, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Did you do Coulomb yet?
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by NC2W on November 6, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
CP Steinmetz was also a 'college professor' at the Schenectady Normal School. My great aunt's diploma was signed: Charles P. Steinmetz.
 
Nope  
by KA4KOE on November 6, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Haven't done Coulomb, but he's on the list. DED 16 will be Popov.
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15 proof of a conspiracy  
by WA2JJH on November 7, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
PROOF OF A KA4KOE-K2WH CONSPIRACY

This is the unpubished DED 16

I posted first twice. PHILIP, YOU PULLED THIS ONE OFF!

So if you see K2WH was first, you know it is bogus!!!!

Member Comments: Add A Comment
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16 Reply
by WA2JJH on November 7, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
THEY WERE DUDES!!!!! SORRY K2WH! ITS THE EARLY WORM THAT GETS THE BIRD (WATTMETER)











 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15 proof of a conspi  
by KA4KOE on November 7, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Maybe on this one. But DED 16 Popov all got warned at the same time fair and square.
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by WA2JJH on November 7, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
yp, it was an inside joke. I was trying to create drama
on the thread.

You guys were too obtuse to see what my master plan was.

You thought I was serious......Who's the Girliman now!

We better get back to science and technology stuff.
Not all hams have a bizaare sense of humor :)

OK quiz
What are the 4 conjugate base pairs that make up DNA?
What type of body tissue is laten for large,hint stimetzes middle name.

Take the reciprocal of the middle name you have the answer!

Steimetz also had a real bogus theory. Becuase of this junk science many people died from steimetzes claim.

It was not his fault really. Some moron chemist got a patent on the bogus Stiemetz theory. The chemist marketed the device.

What is the bogus claim/theory?

Hint:Same fate of the inventor of the x-ray tube.
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by WA2JJH on November 7, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
0LDF-13 !
Man, that paratrouper link was extremely interesting!

You should hook up with Michael Moore!

Like I see megabuck potential in your((( Fact/Fiction
you decide if it is a conspiracy!)))))) thread.

I cannot say I agree or dis-agree with what your saying.(Member of press protocol.

Are you the operator in all those black helicopters I see at site DELTA-9? I will not commit to be serious
about said site. A few of you know what DELTA 9 is.
I DID NOT INHALE. Well,actualy...Lets just say I did not inhale any more than a few Presidents of the USA.

Clinton did make an excellent example of what two past presidents always denied. I have some trivia on ABE Lincoln that nobody wants to know.
Lincoln and JFK had so many things in common.
Not in the scope of this thread.

There is OLDFART original. Your OF-13. ok COOL.

I am asking in a MOS way, Are you the group of renegade SOF's? Oh I forgot you cannot confirm or deny.
I know the drill. 98 x-ray on that, affirmitive K!
MOS also stands for member of the press.
MOS is a abbrieve fer a number of things.
The other 2 or 3 we both know.

Hmmmmm, lots of talent here. No way to channel it. Too bad for us HAMS.
Yup, it would be a horrible thing if some of us did a group venture. We bicker too much any way.

Would I consider doing a joint venture, of fellow E-Hammers. Trust is a thing that I have issues with. Besides HAM RADIO is just a hobby. Forget the idea!
Yup, we dont need no stinking money!

If you have read this far, your asking what is my^*%&*&%%*POINT. Your all intelligent people, you will see what my point is.

Sorry for my usual Psuedo-Intellectual anti Euro trash
2 cents! 73
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by WA2JJH on November 7, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
CHARLES, VFW..Just read your retro-diag.
EXCELLENT, I concure.
I think he also had secondary nueopathy which is very common.
EITHER Toxic,O2 Depravemen or primary induced neuropathy will present as chronic pain in extremities,or hypersensitivity to pain.

Parathesis may also present as a numbing or tingling
sensations in the limbs.

The man was proteus(large)in spirit. He overcame extreme discomfort. Indeed he was a giant.

His picture next to Einstein is well deserved.

Most scientist agree that Einstein was the most intelligent person to have existed on earth. It was horrible that Einsteins Brain was surgicly removed for analysis.

The analysis showed that Einsteins brain weighed a mere 2 ounces more than the average human brain.

Interesting that most people equate large as good.
Countless studies have shown woman are attracted to taller men(6 foot or more) Indeed it is their loss.

All my BULLSH-- and sophestry proves is that good things come in small packages.



 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by WA2JJH on November 7, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
There is one DED that should be considered. In fact Steve(I am not dropping any calls or last names)
met the 50KW AM Clear channel celeb/Talk radio AM king of clean comedy/HAM.

I am not going to drop his name either.

I can say this,you may have seen his movie and many
PBS productions.

On 990KC AM, he talked about some of his pre-ham/ham/early BDCST life often.

Have I given enough hints? Who
He was a dude. He was electrical. His favorite one liner would be"""ALL YOU FCC 1st class ticket holders do not even know how to solder.

His story of an exploding AM transmitter is all about
the grides and plates of the finals ballisticly were
embedded in the roof!It was

Oh I forgot, feelip had a very kurt and rude QSO with the dude. Well Philip, he was a real nice guy most of the time. He was nice to me, perhaps cause I wanted his book autographed(1973)He did. It was a book signing at a book store. I dunno---seemed like a cool dude to me. I was 13, what the F did I know back then.

Oh, I did mention he mets the third and lets say final
Parameter. He died like 12 years ago. Forgot exactly
when, ACE!
 
Gene Sheppard  
by KA4KOE on November 8, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I'm not afraid to mention his name. Wrote "Christmas Story", and "In God We Trust. All others pay cash."

He was indeed very condescending to me when I talked to him back in 1983.

PHILIP
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by WA2JJH on November 8, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Well, you have your right to hate a DED.
=I grew up listing to the radio show in question. He inspired me. He had the best clean humor around.

Guess you could not get WOR in your neck of the woods.
Clear channel AM is such an oxymoron.

He would tell people to take a pencil and see how close they can get to one of the 50,000W transmitter antennas!

Lets do science.

A Man has a #6 pencil. Assume 50KW@ 1 mhz.
Assume the antenna is isotropic. What would be the
"LD-50" Delta T= 30 seconds or T minus 30s step function @ 1 meter from antenna?

The prize for the best answer wins an EICO-753 that has been submerged in sea water for 2 months. Power supply not included.

 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by WA2JJH on November 8, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Well, you have your right to hate a DED.
=I grew up listing to the radio show in question. He inspired me. He had the best clean humor around.

Guess you could not get WOR in your neck of the woods.
Clear channel AM is such an oxymoron.

He would tell people to take a pencil and see how close they can get to one of the 50,000W transmitter antennas!

Lets do science.

A Man has a #6 pencil. Assume 50KW@ 1 mhz.
Assume the antenna is isotropic. What would be the
"LD-50" Delta T= 30 seconds or T minus 30s step function @ 1 meter from antenna?

The prize for the best answer wins an EICO-753 that has been submerged in sea water for 2 months. Power supply not included.

 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by KA4KOE on November 8, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Nope, didn't hate him, just didn't like him. There is a difference.
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by K4GLM on November 8, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I read Steinmetz's biography in 1967. That book had his christened name as "Charles Rudolph Augustus Steinmetz". Perhaps it was Americanized when he emigrated.
There was also a touching story of his graduation, from maybe high school. A new suit was in order, but the tailor looked at his twisted body, threw up his hands and said "how can I work with that?" or words to that effect. His heart then softened, and he did what he could.
It wasn't easy being Steinmetz....
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by K4GLM on November 8, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Karl August Rudolph Steinmetz, I was close. "Steinmetz" means "stone cutter" or something like that.
("Iesenhower", means "Iron worker", or blacksmith....)
K4GLM
 
RE: Good News Kids!  
by N0FP on November 8, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
"Have I left anyone out? Speak up! "


You left out Mr. Neper.
 
Steinmetz  
by KA4KOE on November 8, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Yes, he did Americanize his name.
 
RE: Good News Kids!  
by N0FP on November 8, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
The neper is named for John Napier (1550–1617), the Scottish mathematician who invented logarithms to the base e.

Back in college, I raised my hand and asked the professor (PHD in Mathematics) how to calculate logs, he responded that he'd never been asked the question before and further that he had no clue... Profound considering that base e is used in many of the equations we take for granted. My query remains unanswered. What the heck is 'e'?

 
RE: Good News Kids!  
by SM0AOM on November 8, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
The number e is a limit number derived from the theory of differentiation of exponential functions.

A very special thing about the number e is that
the derivative of e^x is the same function e^x.

This property can be used to calculate e as a
limit

e = lim(1+1/n)^n

infinity

The number e has a profound importance in almost all
forms of science, it shows up in i.a. population growth, radioactive decay and complex arithmetic (Euler's formula and identity)

More about the number e can be read at

http://wwwgap.dcs.stand.ac.uk/~history/HistTopics/e.html


73/
Karl-Arne
SM0AOM
 
Natural Logs  
by KA4KOE on November 9, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Yes, they're called natural logs. They burn best if left out to dry in the sun. Don't do pine! It'll clog up your fireplace.

THEY ARE DUDES!!!

Philip

 
Logs  
by KA4KOE on November 9, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Steinmetz memorized entire tables of logartithms, and could do most math in his head.

Yep, he was that smart.

P
 
RE: Natural Logs  
by K4JSR on November 10, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
As long as the fire is kept up at a moderate burn rate
the pine tars will stay gaseous and escape through the chimney. I have been burning pine trees in my
fireplace for over 25 years and not had a problem.
And yes, I do have my chimney checked every two years by a licensed sweep. And no, the Sweep does not bring
a sweep oscillator!
The only other thing I can say about natural logs is,
"eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!" But you would get that same sound from someone being beaten with a catenary of
nine tails. Of which I am not an exponent.
Besides, logarithms are a method of birth control used
by the Forestry Dept. So don't go throwing a timber
tantrum over it! Or I may have to take Constant's
Plank after you!
Sigh! The drivel I have to write to amuse Philip when I can't come up with a limerick!
 
Good boy....  
by KA4KOE on November 10, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Like any well behaved hound, Cal, you do respond quite well to commands.

FETCH BOY!!!
 
RE: Good boy....  
by K4JSR on November 10, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
You sound like KG4RJM!
 
RE: Good boy....  
by KC8VWM on November 11, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
"I have been burning pine trees in my
fireplace for over 25 years and not had a problem."

Cal,

Those things you are burning from your backyard in your fireplace for the past 25 years are not pine logs.

Those are as Philip explained in his earlier post and what is commonly referred to as "natural logs."

uh... Down boy.. Good puppy..

Go Dudes!

 
RE: Good boy....  
by K4JSR on November 12, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Does this mean that the hardwood logs that I burn in my fireplace are un natural logs?
Are both Charles and Philip trying to tell me that even our forests these days are plastic? Oh, horrors!
This may mean that soon we will be having to to contend with the "UN-DUDES"!!
Is this what Bill, WH, has been trying to tell us all along?
Philip, you may want to contact K6BCN about making a
movie about the "UN-DUDES".

"Dude dee Dude Dude, Dude dee Dude Dude"...
You *KNEW* it had to happen--right here in the DUDE-
LITE zone.......

Next thing you know, Mikee will go from the Ham Sandwich conspiracies to the more seasonal Turkey
Sandwich Conspiracies--Cranberry Sauce optional.

It must be because of those footprints they left on the Moon 30 or so years ago! Ain't nothin' been right
since then!

Philip, move out of that Doublewide so that Savannah
won't be Hurricane Alley anymore! You may have tempted one fate too many!

Youse guys are worrying this old redneck way too much!
Don't you realize how difficult it is to gnash just
one tooth?!!! Geez, guys! Cut me some slack!

73, Cal K4JSR
Struggleville, Ga.

PS. OK guys, where's my hound biscuit?
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by WA2JJH on November 12, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
The dude that did the first derivitive of e is very correct. It also can be used as an indentity function.

For matrix math, an identity funtion will be done.
The inverse of a matrix is equal to the matrix.

I know this one physics phd dude that thinks he is such hot sh--,cause he can do fourier transforms in his head.

Physics dudes are always so arrogent. This dude claims he has an honary degree in electrical engineering. Well he is a teacher.Not a good one.

What do they say.....Those that cannot do, teach!
No insult to any teachers on e-ham. You just have to meet a guy like this to understand.
Most good profs. I know can do both.

Problem with learning math and physics can be attributed to the way it is taught.

Philip, myself, and many others on E-HAM have EE degree's. I think it is a fair generalisation to say that 75% of what you learned in engineering, you will not use.

At the Masters and PhD, one would think they would have learned what puts money in ones pocket not scribbles of equations.

The person I am elluding to is not a ham.
I laughed in my head so much, when I tried to teach a 3erd year medical resident some things we know.

Like the equations for resistors and caps in series and parallel. Medical students see schematics of a simple OP amp circuits, and are stunned.

So if in the future you see in a paper that BIOMEDICAL engineering programs are not working as well as the NSA wanted them to, it is not the fault of the engineers. The snobby doctors that train with us, drop out.
 
Happy Birthday  
by KA4KOE on November 12, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
DED #1 splashed onto Eham one year ago today (actually it was Nov. 11).

PHILIP
 
RE: Happy Birthday  
by KC8VWM on November 12, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
WooHoo! A Dude Anniversary!

Live on.. Dead Dudes!

(Good Cake Too!)
 
RE: Happy Birthday  
by KC8VWM on November 12, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Afterthought,

(.. better give Cal a biscuit instead of cake.)
 
RE: Happy Birthday  
by KC8VWM on November 12, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Oh yeah, Mikee needs a candle in his ham sandwich too.

 
RE: Happy Birthday  
by K4JSR on November 12, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Charles said, "Afterthought,
(.. better give Cal a biscuit instead of cake.)"

Uh, make that TWO biscuits, Gravy, two scrambled,
the ham that would have gone into Mikee's sandwich,
grits and a pot of railroad wreck crew coffee.

Mikee is out of the ham sandwich conspiracy business
because he is making room for all of those turkey sandwiches that say "Moo"! (This ought to have a few folks saying, "HUH?!".

Mikee, the reason that most MDs don't understand OP AMPS is the same reason that they aren't good MD's--
They cannot deal with feeback! Besides that, after
their second year in residency they just bounce back
and forth from rail to rail! But that's okay.
I don't care if my Doc knows about op amps or not.
Just as long as he knows how to keep me going.

Philip, what's on the menu for Saturday at the Breakfast Club?
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYYYAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWHR!!!
Dr. Dean's famous scream, which means "I'm Finished!"
(Hope I didn't startle anyone!)

73, Cal K4JSR
Stark Raving Normal, Ga.
 
RE: Happy Birthday  
by KA4KOE on November 13, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
NaNa's breakfast special. This is Jordan's birthday weekend and he will be 6.
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by WA2JJH on November 13, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Rail road wreck coffee!!! Dang, STAR_SMUCHS would sell it for $3.00.

Bakery dude cross the street has the best chocholate
moose cake! Ymmmmmy bout 200 calories a spoon full.

Hmmmmm....

Cal...I am not a serious about the conspiracies.
Then again.....Paranioa sometimes is just knowing all the facts!!!!!!

There is this cool fiction book called ET TU BABY.
you have to have a science or technical background to get half the humor.

Cal..Were you the type of kid that would put a burning bag of doggie doo in front of a house?
When you saw the victims expensive shoes lathered with ultra ripe, molten doggie doo, you would be ROFLing?
 
Tybee's Breakfast Club  
by KA4KOE on November 14, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
http://www.tybeeisland.com/dining/brclub/Default.htm

Haven't been in awhile. Maybe next weekend. When are you going to be down, Cal?

And Mike, you down here anytime at Brunswick and I'll buy you breakfast.
 
RE: Tybee's Breakfast Club  
by K4JSR on November 15, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Maybe next hurricane season, Philip.
My bride and I like excitement!
;-D
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by AB5XZ on November 15, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Good story about C P Steinmetz. I read somewhere that he added the "Proteus" to his name as an adult.
I researched Steinmetz many years ago, and found in the Texas Engineers' Library some volumes of "Electrical News" with a series of articles by Steinmetz, explaining how to use vectors in the analysis of steady-state AC circuits. This was in the 1880's, and "Electrical News" was a tabloid-form newspaper.
Steinmetz *was* a genius, and unlike some genii, was able to write well and get his points across to other engineers.
73TomAB5XZ
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 15  
by K4JSR on November 16, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Mikeeeeee sed, "Cal..Were you the type of kid that would put a burning bag of doggie doo in front of a house?
When you saw the victims expensive shoes lathered with ultra ripe, molten doggie doo, you would be ROFLing?"

Not me. I never could get a dog to squeeze into a
burning bag! Not even into a bag not burning!
What was I doing wrong? Do I need a smaller dog or
a larger bag? Do I need a know-code dog or a no-code dog? Should I write on the outside of the bag,
"Season's Squeezin's"?
Gee, life is just so complex! Obviously we need a little help on this.

73, Confused Cal K4JSR
Stacks, Ga.
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dog Stacks  
by K4JSR on November 18, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I'm last! Nanny! Nanny! Boo-boo!

Roses are red,
Autumn leaves are brown,
With limericks like this...
We oughta get outa town!

Actually, the above is a "doggerel squeeze" in a
burning paper bag!

I only do this because of a "Pavlovian condition"
caused by KA4KOE's Dead Dude Rants!

 
RE: Dead Electrical Dog Stacks  
by K4JSR on December 7, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
It has been a blast, Philip, and as you can see on this thread I am last!
MUHUHAHAHAHAHA! NANNY! NANNY! BOO! BOO!

 
RE: Dead Electrical Dog Stacks  
by K4JSR on December 7, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
It has been a blast, Philip, and as you can see on this thread I am last!
MUHUHAHAHAHAHA! NANNY! NANNY! BOO! BOO!

 
RE: Dead Electrical Dog Stacks  
by KA4KOE on April 6, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Wrong again, sissy boy.
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dog Stacks  
by K4JSR on June 25, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
KOE SEZ, "Wrong again, sissy boy."
JSR SEZ, I am RIGHT AGAIN! NYAH! NYAH!
Besides, you're getting rained on today.
Take that, you NYC, Hillary loving Liberal!
Gotcha last! Oh, what a blast! :-P
 
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