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Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16

Philip Neidlinger (KA4KOE) on November 17, 2004
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This Month's Stiff: Alexander Stepanovich Popov

Entered Mortal Coil: 16 March 1859

Assumed Room Temperature: 13 January 1906

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“I was first, Comrade!”

First, before we even get started, we need to play a bit of music to set the proper mood for reading this essay. Download this audio file located at my internet website http://home.comcast.net/~ka4koe/russiananthem.wav and play it whilst you're reading. Strange? Well, what do you expect reading these little essays from my twisted mind?

We're going to change gears a little bit and introduce a bit of controversy into our ongoing discussion of dead electrical pioneers of yesteryear. I am sure that many of you have read my previous essays on Guglielmo Marconi, or Dr. Lee Forest. Marconi got patent recognition for his radio system, and good ole' Lee claimed to be the “Father of Radio”...please suppress your giggles now, okay? But what if I told you that both of these gentlemen were pre-empted by Mr. Popov in the invention of the first radio transmitter? Now, I'm not even going to suggest that this is a case of “goulosh communism”, where Nikita Krushchev and his Soviet thugs were claiming that everything under the sun was invented by scientists from good old Mother Russia. In this particular instance, the Bolsheviks may have actually been correct in their wild claims. Sounds incredible, doesn't it?

Perhaps the primary reason that the scientific world at large places priority on Marconi is the fact that Alex was not an entrepreneur. He was first and foremost a scientist doing science for the pure love of it. Seeking publicity for his work would have been distasteful and boastful for this modest man. A good publicist would have done the Russian a world of good.

Let's discuss the POP-TARTs; an acronym for Popov's Transmitting And Receiving Tests. Alex was aware of Heinrich Hertz's experiments verifying the existence of electromagnetic waves, as was most every other scientist at the time. Experimental work on a coherer had been undertaken earlier by Edouard Branley and Oliver Lodge. Popov reasoned that he could detect lightning strikes many miles away by using a coherer and a simple receiver built around a door bell. He also attached an aerial and a ground wire. Whenever lightning struck nearby (up to 20 miles), the coherer conducted, causing the bell to ring. When the bell clapper sprang back, it struck the coherer, thereby readying it for the next lightning discharge. In all, it was an ingenious and simple device. He demonstrated the lightning receiver on May 7, 1895 to the Russian Chemical and Physical Society in St. Petersburg.

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Popov's Lightning Receiver

Another, more impressive test was conducted by Alex and his assistant Ribkin on March 12, 1896 over a distance of several hundred feet at St. Petersburg University, again for the Russian Chemical and Physical Society. The words “HEINRICH HERTZ” were successfully received using Morse code and written on a chalkboard. Unfortunately, the event was not very well documented at the time, and was only written about some years later from eyewitness accounts.

A stumbling block was encountered by Popov in that he didn't make the connection between transmitter performance and the requirement for good “earthing” and an antenna, although his lightning receiver had both. Alex assumed that increased transmitter power was the key to increased range. As we now know, higher power output is important in its own right, but antennas are unquestionably the key to success. At this point, Popov was frustrated in his experiments and turned his energies to exploring Roentgen rays (X-Rays).

Later in 1896, the news of Marconi's successes became known to Alex, and he was understandably disturbed at his hesitation in pursuing his work on his radio equipment. As a tribute to the maturity of the man, Alex later met Marconi and had a cordial discussion with his fellow scientist. No professional jealousy was apparent, as Popov later gave Marconi a samovar and a sealskin coat as wedding gifts.

To this day, May 7 is officially celebrated in Russia as Radio Day in honor of Popov. Make your own choice lads……Popov or Marconi.

73

Philip Neidlinger, PE

KA4KOE

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Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by K4JSR on November 10, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
HAHA! I'm FIRST! And I don't care if they are dudes or not!
Popov also invented the over-temperature pressure relief valve on water heaters, commonly referred to
as "Popov Valves"!!
Is that bad enough to suit you, Philip?

Mikee, a NYC gardener with a Bird also has a handfull
of Slugs. I'll send you some salt!

Bill, WH, I think everybody is going to run off and join a "DUDIST" Camp!

I'm outa here. I don't want to give anyone my cold and
sore throat.

73, Cal K4JSR
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by WA2JJH on November 10, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Small Victory Cal!
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by WA2JJH on November 10, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
OH FORGOT,,,,THEY WERE DUDES K2WH ACCEPT IT
resistance is futile and the will of LANDRU
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by K4JSR on November 10, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
At my age I'll take *ANY* victory I can get!
Eat your heart out, Mike!
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by KA4KOE on November 10, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
If this doesn't stir up the proletariet, nothing will....
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by K2WH on November 11, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
They are not dudes........ DUDE!

K2WH
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by K4JSR on November 12, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Pheeeee lep, is stirring up the proletariat anything
like rousing a rabble? If so, does this mean that we
need to practice our rabble yells?

Popov also developed Yorkshire Pudding that was made
in cupcake tins. He called them "POP-OVers"!!

Eat your hearts out! :-P

OOOOOOOOOH YEAH! Great Flu MEDS!
The bottle said "Don't mix with alcohol" so I've been
very carefull not to do cartwheels since imbibing!

73, Cal K4JSR
Stagger, Ga.

 
Time to eat at the Breakfast Club  
by KA4KOE on November 14, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
http://www.tybeeisland.com/dining/brclub/Default.htm

 
RE: Time to eat at the Breakfast Club  
by K4JSR on November 16, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
You tryin' to fling a craving on me, boy?
You succeeded! Email me two "Grill Cleaner Specials"
at once!
Cal-zilla with the growling stomach
 
RE: Time to eat at the Breakfast Club  
by AH6RR on November 17, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Another good one Philip. Though I think this one might stir-up the nay sayers. Keep up the good work. Oh bummer my toster just broke I guess no late night POP-TART for me:o(


As for Cal, Being First isn't always good but it helps the handicap. ;o)
73
Roland AH6RR
 
Pot  
by KA4KOE on November 17, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Roland, if I can stir the pot and get a little hate and discontent brewing, then that would be F-A-B (from the old Thunderbirds tv series).

Feeleep
 
OFFICIAL PRONOUNCEMENT  
by K3ESE on November 17, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
OFFICIAL PRONOUNCEMENT: this notice has been certified as true and accurate by the Ministry of Rectitude:

They are dudes.
 
JJH:  
by K3ESE on November 17, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
are you...of the body...?
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by K4IQT on November 17, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
"All your bases WAS belong to US(SR), after all!".

Will the wonders of timely publicity never cease? In any event, Popov's prior studies and experiments do not diminish the worth of any later works, just precede them.

Just another reason to get the TV reporters out to YOUR FD site, instead of watching the film at eleven of the hams in the next county!
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by W0FM on November 17, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Philip,

Another brilliat presentation. However, I would have bet money that DED #16 invented the Circuit Breaker. Those little buggers Popov on me all the time.

Terry, WFM
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by WB2WIK on November 17, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
The invention probably preceded him, but didn't Popov make improvements on Vodka?

Isn't he mentioned in the famous Appalachian tune, "On Popov Old Smokey?"

And again in the children's song, "Popov Goes the Weasel?"

Poor guy only lived to be 47...

Good one, Fee-leep!

WB2WIK/6
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by W0FM on November 17, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Aw man! I was just coming back here to do the vodka thing and see that Steve beat me to it.

WFM
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by WA6BFH on November 17, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Another nice piece Philip but, given your two choices, I would take Tesla!

Later dude, and uh, 73 OM! de John
PS
Have you done, Farnsworth, Armstrong, and Kraus?
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by K3ESE on November 17, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Popov was the inspiration for the eponymous "Popov Fresh," the Pillsbury Dough-Boy. He also was the originator of no-opener-required bottles, with his "Popov Caps."

And, of course, he was immortalized in the timeless classic, "Popov was a Rolling Stone."
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by KA1DFO on November 17, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Is Alex the first to have a Vodka brand named after him? Or was it his family business. Marconis' mother was a Jameson!

73, Bob
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by KA4KOE on November 17, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
No, yes, and no.

Tesla DED 2
Armstrong DED 3
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by K1CJS on November 17, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
We should also honor good ol' Alex with something that happens on e-ham with some regularity--when someone posts disagreeing comments they're really popin' ov!

Da? Time for another beer!!
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by KA4KOE on November 17, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I think Stolichnaya would probably be more appropo than beer!
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by KD4FUN on November 17, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Landru had his wires crossed!
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by WA6BFH on November 17, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Well then, you need to do John Kraus W8JK.

He just died a few months ago. Some highlights are of course the many antenna and propagation studies he did while at the University of Chicago, his book, "Antennas" which is still 'the bible' and referenced in any professional antenna paper I have ever seen, his famous Ham antenna design the "8JK", and the "WOW Signal" which was a real life honest to goodness 'Contact' sort of (believed to be) extra-terrestrial signal heard by the "Big Ear" at the University of Chicago.

Later dude! de John
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by WB2GOF on November 17, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
This deceased comrade looks a lot like his old man. Thereby creating the saying he was a POP-OV the old block!
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by KB7LYM on November 17, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Who's on First, Watt's on second.

After reading the next few lines of Popov ......

When Popov was ordered by the government to take repressive measures against the growing student movement at the Electrotechnical Institute, he became very upset. Popov's health never had been robust due to the strenuous pace he always had set for himself. The thought of having to take measures against what he considered to be legitimate student activities was too much. Alexander Stepanovitch Popov fell seriously ill on January 10, 1906 and died of a brain hemorrhage on January 13 at the age of 46.


Employees with this kind of devotion are hard to find in the US.
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by WA2JJH on November 17, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
k3ese, ay I know better than to mess with DA MINISTA DE
Rectitude.

Whats with the anti press attiude. I mostly was the truck microwave engineer.Either that or drag a 35lbg IKEGAMI HL-79,95 ENG config. or I would be the video engineer for sports.

I can understand I did work with alot of those aftra actor wannabe's. Back then we got paid big bux and could not be fired. I would call ERIC SHAWN ERIC PRAWN!
Mary Murphy was known be many as rocket socks.
She did not get the concept that a cameraman cannot run like race dog with 35lbs of camera on your shoulder.

I did bcome a reporter on cable. I never got my aftra card.

HARD COPY was cool. I was thier first audio feild engineer. When sound recording was not required I got paid much less than aftra scale to act in reinactments.

They always cast me as either a detective or a connected guy. It did not last long.

Actors are a dime a dozen in NYC. If I am paid to produce a low budget music video, I would simply put needed.....non aftra/sag actresses. As the the infamous
casting couch.......it still goes on a little for a very few.

Yeah reporters for the most part suck! They are very machevellian! I could tell you guys who is the most hated NYC reporter. This dude acted just like TED Baxter on the ol Mary Taylor more series.

The engineers and cameramen used to have it really good! With over time A T.D. or EIC could make as much as a reporter. I did one year. The reporters either liked us NABET/IBEW/IA engineers and camermamen. They knew we did all the hard work schleeping 3/4" and Beta SP rigs.

The good old days are dead. They got special lawyers and EX-armed service people to mke us want to take early retirement.

They gave me $35,000 to leave. I took it. I am glad I did!!!!!!!

I like being my own boss. These kids 2 minutes out of NYU film school get 1/5 us old union guys made.
The cheap basterds I worked for was the only station not to give us bullet proof vests for dangerous area's.

It is no glamour job you people think it was or is.!

Anyone know what a meat wagon is? Or a belleview Cadillac is? I have seen real violence up close and personal. They guy cut in half by a subway still freaks me out! Getting stabbed while carrying a 35lb camera is not my idea of a good time.


 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by KB1IVU on November 18, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
No wonder he died at 47..take a slug of Popov vodka and you will understand....

 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by KA4KOE on November 18, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Didn't know you were carrying a camera when you were stabbed, Mike.
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by N3EVL on November 18, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Popov also invented the precursor to the Push-to-talk button - obviously, it was called the "Steponosvitch" -Dohhh!
 
possible solution to Popov vodka quality...?  
by K3ESE on November 18, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
<http://www5.ohmygoditburns.com/index.php?m=200411>
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by KN8AW on November 18, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
TO WA6BFH:

W8JK's studies and the Big Ear were at Ohio State University, not Chicago! The main reflector for Big Ear could be seen from US Route 23 just south of Delaware, Ohio. Unfortunately, the antenna was dismantled and sold for scrap to make way for something even more amazing...A GOLF COURSE (WAAAAAH!) A perfect waste of real estate if you ask me.
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by WA6BFH on November 18, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Oooops! Sorry about that error on the "Big Ear" etc! I was trying to contribute from base memory, obviously a poor idea!

Philip will do a good job though I think in setting this all to rights! I just hope to see such an article, John Kraus was one of our modern day heroes!

Thanks for helping to unfog my failing faculty's!
73! de John
 
Brita Filters  
by KA4KOE on November 19, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
What an interesting use of Brita water filters from your link, ESE.

Due to the overwhelming response to this article, it may be another couple of months before I POPOV another one via my cable modem line.

Feeleep
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by WA2JJH on November 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
yES Phileeep, fortunity he did not get deep at all.
No hospital stay on that one.
Some people do get pesky when there is crime scene in their bario. I guess they have their anti-press teams/gangs/whatever.

It was pretty funny when I turned around with an IKE-79D quick, and clocked some dude in the head. Those Anton Baure 4 AMP batts stick out.

We liked our miller/popove times after a 10 hour shoot.

How about a HAM-FESTIVAL willed by Landrue.

Just waitin for the red hour.
73
 
Landru  
by KA4KOE on November 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Yes, it would be for the good of the body. Health be to Landru, and to you brother.
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by WA2JJH on November 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
AYA BROTHER, YOU MUST HAVIST been at the festival too long!

You bother wanteth to trade one ICOM PRO for Military PRC-1099? It is not the RED HOUR yet, bother.
Landru does not approve such trade for technical and practical reasons. You will be absorbed for such foolishness!
It is the will of Landrue! (spooky music by Alexnder Courge)CHORUS: FADE TO BLACK.

RED HOUR_ You may make trade!

 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by WA2JJH on November 21, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
<<<Make your own choice ladsPopov or Marconi.>>>>

I will have to choose macaroni! Popovs are too high in carbs! However pop--ove corn with out butter is good too.

Such a hard choice....""Colonel green doing bugus
vulcan voice.......Help me spaaahhhkkkk!" Name that episode!
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by KA4KOE on November 21, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
It was the one with the Lava alien.
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by WA2JJH on November 21, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
WOW, YOUR GOOD WITH 1960'S TREK TRIVIA!

1)Who else was col. greens team.

2)Name the most popular episode

3)Name the dude that played in one trek episode ad was in many Batman episodes.

4)It is true that an unknown actor will die on an away mission. hat are their rank. I mean always, it is a joke.

5)Star tre had mby parallel universe gigs. Which one did the anti mater dude have a physical altercation with himself.

6)Ultra bonus name either the dude that played lavaman
or landreu.

7)STEerilize

8)The bogus episode with Liberace in it.

9)What is a quatlose(do not confuse with Qualuude)
10)Which episode did Spook sing
11)which episode was spin off failed pilot.
12)What is a wrp factor Warp9 is not 9X3E10^8.
13)which episode was LURCH in?

FIRST ONE TO HAVE ALL CORRECT ANSWER WINS ONCE MINT EICO-753. PROBLEM IS THE ONE FOR THE TRIVIA TEST WAS TOSSED INTO THE EAST RIVER BY AN IRATE USER!
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by KA4KOE on November 21, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
1)Who else was col. greens team. Kalis, and some woman.

2)Name the most popular episode. The Trouble With Tribbles.

3)Name the dude that played in one trek episode ad was in many Batman episodes. Frank Gorshin, Let this be your last battlefield.

4)It is true that an unknown actor will die on an away mission. hat are their rank. I mean always, it is a joke. They are red shirts.

5)Star trek had many parallel universe gigs. Which one did the antimatter dude have a physical altercation with himself. It was a bad 3rd season episode, don't remember the name.

6)Ultra bonus name either the dude that played lavaman
or landreu. Dunno.

7)STEerilize. Nomad.

8)The bogus episode with Liberace in it. The Squire of Gothos.

9)What is a quatlose(do not confuse with Qualuude)
10)Which episode did Spook sing. The Tahiti Syndrome.
11)which episode was spin off failed pilot. The Cage.
12)What is a wrp factor Warp9 is not 9X3E10^8. It is 9 cubed times C.
13)which episode was LURCH in? What are little girls made of.

FIRST ONE TO HAVE ALL CORRECT ANSWER WINS ONCE MINT EICO-753. PROBLEM IS THE ONE FOR THE TRIVIA TEST WAS TOSSED INTO THE EAST RIVER BY AN IRATE USER!
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by KA4KOE on November 21, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
A quatloose is a bid. Forgot that one.
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by WA2JJH on November 22, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Not bad. 2 is wrong

Destiny has no tommarrow with Joan Collins was the most aclaimed episode, NOT TRIBBLES.

Quatlos. Three Brains without bodies control bet on the deadly games.

Not bad!!!!!
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by WA2JJH on November 22, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
#6 wrong! Then again, I did not know who was lavaman.
Perhaps the same dude tht killed off dennis crosby in SNG

A WARP FACTOR IS THE NUMBERx THE SPEED OF LIGHT SQUARED, NOT CUBED.

OK I WILL HAVE A MUCH HARDER STAR TREK TRIVIA EXAM NEXT MONTH.

 
Warped  
by KA4KOE on November 22, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
INCORRECT DUDE. Pull out your ORIGINAL Star Trek technical manual from TOS, and it will show you a Warp Speed diagram on a logarithmic plot.

It IS (warp)cubed x C.
 
The Not Ready for Prime Time Players  
by KA4KOE on November 22, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
This file is not ready for prime time. Its a big file

http://home.comcast.net/~ka4koe/newpopov.wav

Unless you have a cable modem or a DSL line don't attempt to download it as you will tie up your phoneline with a 16 MB files.

Feeleep
 
RE: The Not Ready for Prime Time Players  
by K4JSR on November 22, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
It looks like you two have gone from from vodka to
GORN LIKKER!
Yuk! Lizard breath!!!
 
Gorn  
by KA4KOE on November 23, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
"Kirk, I grow tired of the chase. Meet me at the clearing. I will be quick and merciful. Stop running.
SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS"
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by K3CXG on November 23, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
"Dammit, Jim, I'm just a simple country doctor! And tell that pointy-eared freak to stay the hell out of my sick bay!"
 
RE: Gorn, but not forgotten!  
by K4JSR on November 23, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Yes, their relationship went on the rocks, and as you
said, "the rest is HISSSSSSSSSSTORY"...........
All the Gorn was trying to do was to send Kirk OFF.
Had he been successful Kirk would be another DED! ;-0

I guess you do, indeed, have a Spockled past!
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by WA2JJH on November 24, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
NAME THE EPISODE.

Somebody gots the hots for the blond yeoman.

OK: 2 lines of dialog in the same wide-2 shot
(nervously speaking) EVER SINCE I CAME ABOARD!
i WANT TO STAY...STAY.....SSSSTTTTAAHHHH FADE OUT AUDIO TRACK 3.


THIS ONE IS TOO EASY. YOU DO NOT WIN A MINT EICO-753
SUBMERGED N FERRIC CHLORIDE FOR 2 YEARS.

cOME TO THINK OF IT.... If you submerged any rig in ferric chloride 85% for 2 years...You would have the rig in liquid form, no? The TUBES. They would not desolve

Philip really hates his ICOM 756 PRO. It is all he bitches about on the phone. ICOM YOU REALLY SCREWED UP.
YOU SHOULD HAVE TALKED AND KISSED HIS BUTT. YOU DO GET A SECOND CHANCE IN THIS NEW CONTEST. YOUR POS 7800 WIL DO jUST FINE!

OM FEEELIP for science sake, put your rig in a fish tank of feric chloride.

C"MON advertisers. Offer phil YOUR TOP OF THE LINE RIG! TAX WRITE OFF--GOOD PUBLICITY!

IF HE DOES THIS SCIENCE EXPERIMENT, One of you lucky rig makers HAVE A REAL HOMER FOR ADS.for residuals....send them to ME!
Tagline..Some hams put their RIGS through a real acid test.(cut away to eico in fake acid. You then take a rig "Phil0WIT" WANTS. SUMERGE IN COCA COLA.(Get coke to do the ad as a tax write off) Many commercials are shot with 16mm super16 or 35mm film.

Many are interested. I know feelip is crazy enough to get 5 gallons of FeCl.I Will video tape it as proof!

WAITE WAIGHT, THE TITLE..AHHH BRILLIANT:THE ACID TEST!

Michael Moore, Move over you PHAT PHoock!!!!!!!
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by K3ESE on November 24, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Michael, how can you even type at all, in that condition...?
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by WA2JJH on November 24, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Why are you being a pain in the ESE.(thats a-- K3ESE
Since you asked...IT IS CALLED PERIFERAL NUEROPATHY...HEARTLESS FOOL!

The CNS damage I have is very slight. It does mess with my soldering. Are you happy now? FORTUNITLY IT IS NON PROGRSSIVE, K3ESE! SO I HAD TO RETRAIN HE RIGHT SIDE OF MY BRAIN TO KEEP UP WITH MY FAVORITE HOBBY....MARTIAL ARTS GO-JU-RYE and SDFS. Ham radio is a far 3erd.

Now, what was the condition you were snidly eluding to? What malidies do you have. I can get out the DSM-IV.

1)Narsistic personality disorder, secondary to being a meat head.

Bi-polar type 2a or Seasonal affective disorder I would say are 2 other condx you may have.

OCD-tertiary sub acute.

Hmmmm sorry for the lambasing K3ESE. I just had a professor really p--s me off.

BACK TO TREK.
NAME THE EPISODE WHERE KIRK STEALS SOMETHING FROM THE ROMULANS.

The planet U-NAADA had a good gig going, why did Kirk and Spock destroy thier computer...IT WAS because of landru!!!!!!
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by KA4KOE on November 28, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
The Enterprise Incident.....A cloaking device installed in a Klingon D9 battlecruiser.
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by K3ESE on November 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
hmm...peripheral neuropathy...that's the one that attacks the spelling, first, and then the sense of what's funny/appropriate, isn't it? Sounds like you got a bad case...
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by WA2JJH on November 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
hOPE YOUR KID GETS GLIAL CELL CARCINOMA!
NOW THAT IS....FUNNY
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by WA2JJH on November 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
next time I am at the hamfest near you, I will look you up.

See,if you can be so glib in my face, punk!
Now that is funny!
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by WA2JJH on November 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
K3ESE, the cndx you think you know about is frontal lobe dimensia secondy to frontal lobe hypertropy.

YOU STARTED THIS, MAKING FUN OF A PAINFULL NUEROLOGICAL CONDITION, I HAVE TO DEAL WITH.

FOR YOUR EDUCATION, IT LEAVES A TINGLING SENSATON IN HANDS.THERE IS ALSO CHRONIC JOINT PAIN. i use it to a sports advantage.I HAVE FEW WORKING PAIN RECEPTORS IN MY HANDS.
THIS ALLOWED ME TO GET 1ST PRIZE AT A BOARD BREAKING CONTEST.

Before you make jokes about peoples medical problems, Know YOUR FACTS!

I WOULD SUGGEST WE DROP THE MATTER! yOU HAVE PRESENTED WITH SOCIOPATHIC TRAITS
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by WA2JJH on November 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Kirk sure got all the babes. I have counted about 7 episodes where KIRK unloaded his phasor!
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by K7PEH on November 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
8)The bogus episode with Liberace in it. The Squire of Gothos.


Liberace never played in any Star Trek episode and the character that played the squire of Gothos was actor William Campbell who also played a Klingon officer in the Trouble with Tribbles.

 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by WA2JJH on November 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Kirk sure got all the babes. I have counted about 7 episodes where KIRK unloaded his phasor!
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by WA2JJH on November 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Kirk sure got all the babes. I have counted about 7 episodes where KIRK unloaded his phasor!
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by WA2JJH on November 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
K7peh, congraulations, you beat both fellip and I.

That Cambell dude sure did look like liberace.
TNX FER UPDATE

I see where I got confused. Liberace did play in one 1960's Batman episode.

Lets see Burgess Meridith-NO TREK
Candice burdon---TREK.Put her on the map.
Mark Lenard-Played spoocks father many times.

Both Shatner and spoock were in a few TWILIGHT ZONE EPISODES.

Sulu or George Takiay was in a John Wayne Movie.
Name the 1968 pro war movie?

 
Places I wish I could have been  
by WB8WKA on November 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I would have liked to have seen Edison's demostration that Tesla's "AC" was more dangerous then Edison's "DC". And how did he do this? By electrocuting dog's and horses with AC on stage! Just gotta love not living in a world that was so tied up with being politically correct.
 
RE: Places I wish I could have been  
by KA4KOE on November 30, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
The Green Berets....
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by WA2JJH on November 30, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
WB8WKA, your so right. We have changed.
Parents were encouraged to bring their kids to a hanging in the old west!

Coca-Cola (DR Pembertons real original recipe)was sold at hangings. The original recipe as you may or may not know contained COCA-LEAVES. The inca's would use quick lime to chew with the leaves to allow a better cocaine base extracton.

Yup Coke prior to 1913 used the carbolic acid in all soda's to get the 7% solution.

Those were whacky days. You got to see a real execution, then good old dad gave out the real thing.
A bottle of Coca Cola(7% cocaine HCL) for the kiddies
to quench and reward them for watching violent hangings.

Bet dad drank a six pack to realy get bombed!

Coke today still contains Coca leaves for flavor.
The cocaine is extracted by Merch Sharp, and Dohm for cosmetic surgury.
Today Coke has caffeine instead of cocaine of course.
That is why so many soda's still have up to 2 cups of
coffee.

Now we have the new energy soda's. Red bull, stacker,
zoom,hype,rockstar, and more new brands every day.

Those 8 ounce soda's are supposed to be drunk in one gulp. One gets up to 300mgs of caffiene. Guarana Root, an alkloid similar to cocaine is used too. Actually you get a more potent varient of caffeine from guarana.
Combine this with bio-available glucose and ultra rapid release from carbonation, you have a health hazzard.

For adults, it is a safe alternative to stimulants.
Still, just wait til the next generation passes FDA approval!!!!!

 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by WA2JJH on December 1, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
WKA- They also botched the first human electrocution execution. Forgot the poor DEDS(Honorary) This dude was the first to ride the lightening at ossonic prison
aka Sing Sing.

They told the poor dude that it would hurt less than hanging. So the dead electrocuted dude decided on the chair.

Well the first chair, they did not have an electrical engineer around. Philip, you missed an early gig. hi-hi.

They only used 1000 volts. The DED really did not look like he was having a party! Took 3 minutes to kill him.

They also did not care about the DEDS civil liberties. They did an unauthorised autopsy.
They found his brain hard boiled like an egg.
I have lots of other discusting facts about the first
Deds by Con Edison!!!!.

They found out after some horrrible executions, that 2200Volts should be used at first.

Philip-that gives us dead electrocuted dudes or D.eDs
for short. No degree, one less E but dead dudes for sure. How about E.D.D.'s. Electrocuted dead dudes.
So we got DEDS and EDDS. Thank Con Edison for that!
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by K4JSR on December 1, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Mikee, you just brought about a whole new meaning to the expression, "GET FRIED"!
I guess that is why the modern murderer tells his
keeper to "Shoot the juice to me, Bruce!"

73 for now. See ya next "FRYDAY"!

Cal K4JSR
 
Ole Sparky  
by KA4KOE on December 2, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Isn't Ole Sparky at Reidsville State Prison, Cal?

Usually, the condemned's eyes are taped shut so the eyeballs won't pop out.

Personally, if put in that situation, I'd probably take a firing squad, with a round in each rifle.
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by WA2JJH on December 2, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
It is more like being slow roasted then fried!

Yup Philip some states do call it OL' Sparky.
Yes they did add the blindfold to hold in the eye balls.

Florida uses it's own gas powered generator. The electric company refused to give them the special service.

EDISON was gung ho for dc TO roast. Yes Con Edison did some rather nasty animal experiments with DC.

I sure would not have wanted to see the day Edison electrocuted the elephant on stage! He did.

Well the chair is pretty much dead. At San Quenton, they thought hydrocyanide gas was more humane.

You had better hoped that they they had enough Cyanide tabs or/and nitric acid that day!

Seems like shooting squad or hanging was the most humane.

You got criminal laywers's bitchin that the pento barb, pavullulon, and pottasium chloride is to much suffering for the condemned!!!!

An electrical engineer invented lethal I.V. They are selling like hot cakes!
 
RE: Ole Sparky  
by K4JSR on December 3, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Happy FRYDAY!
The "Old Sparky" Electric Chair (Maybe should be "CHAR"!) was moved from the Georgia State Penitentiary at Reidsville right after the opening of the Georgia Diagnostic and Correctional Center at
Jackson was opened. Old Sparky took up residence there and "corrected" several several condemned felons before being retired in favor of lethal injection.
Mike is correct in saying that electricution is more
like slow roasting than frying. Electricution in the
electric chair is similar to cooking a hot dog by
tying wires to nails, sticking the nails into the ends of a hot dog and then plugging wires into an electrical outlet. Yes, electrocution is a brutal way to kill someone, but then the folks that got
executed were not particularly gentle or kind to their victims, either.
If you would rather be executed by firing squad, Utah
still gives that as an option. Gary Gilmore took it as
his passport to his eternal dirt nap. However, you
are mistaken in thinking only all but one of the rifles used has blanks. It is the other way around.
only one rifle used by the firing squad is loaded with a blank round. The theory being that none of the execution squad will know for sure that they ventilated the miscreant themselves. Funny, I have
always been able to tell if I was firing a live or a blank round!
As to what method is the most "humane" way of execution, I don't know. I do know that anticipation
of the event is longer and is probably much worse on
one's psyche than the event itself. Hopefully
society will be able to stop killing people as a form
of punishment when people stop killing each other as a form of sociophathic recreation.
Of course the modern method of preventing execution
is to have a "dream team" of shysters!
It was so cold here last night that I saw a lawyer with his hands in his own pockets!!
Okay Charles, VWM, it is time for you to put your
"Star Seal" on this.

73, Cal K4JSR
ZAP, Ga.
 
RE: Ole Sparky  
by KA4KOE on December 4, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Man the ole web site is getting lots of hits these days! We're almost to 20,000!!!! Thats like 5 a day!!
OOOOOOOOHHHHH!!!!

Do ya' think this article I popped off had sumtin' to do with it, Mr. Cal?

Personally, after having a friend's face blown off by a couple of punks back in '98, I will never consent to the elimination of puttin' the animals to sleep. If I'd kept her company while she was working that late night as she asked, I'd in all likelihood not be writing this now. Miss Paula Jayne Sprague was her name.

Neither one got the death penalty, although the security cameras caught the crime. They got away with 700 dollars. What a waste.

P
 
RE: Ole Sparky  
by K4JSR on December 4, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
You want to make the Greenies and the liberals shriek?
Then execute murderers in the same fashion as they
killed their victims. Suits me! But then I am a
bloodthirsty conservative who does not like murderers,
thieves, wife beaters, child abusers, armed robbers,
Con artists, drunk drivers or terrorists.
Oh, how intolerant I am!
One more thing, "NUKE THE WHALES!"
Like I said above, I will oppose execution as punishment when everybody learns how to behave properly. I am not holding my breath!

How many years did those punks get who killed your friend? And you are correct. If you had been there,
you would not be here.
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by WA2JJH on December 4, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I AM ALL FOR THE DEATH PENELTY. Just cause I am from NYC, does not make me a hormanally imbalanced Pinko like Hillary Clinton.

HOWEVER DNA EVIDENCE MUST BE USED. They released thousands that did not do it.

The cocktail makes the death penelty useless.
They get an IV barbiturate first. So feel no pain at all. It's the same stuff they give you to induce surgical analgesia.

The Pavullion the second chemical is the same used in general surgury to make you motionless.

The antagonist are in the machine. Phone call comes though with a stay of execution, the condenmed wakes up like a surgery patient.

The third ingrediant is pottasium chloride. This stops the electochemical gradiant needed to stop the heart.

If one is DNA, red handed guilty........1 year max for legal appeals. Then the family of the more important victims should decide the method.

Cal, how about a solar powered electric chair? The EDD is strapped in at 5AM. The EDD has 2 hours to say what he wants to say.

When the voltage becomes uncomfortable, he WILL confess to other crimes he committed.

If he gives info on unfound victims, then an IV of pentothal.
He will be sleeping as he is slow roasted!
If he does not talk, gives the family of the victimes control of the voltage. He curses them out 750V for a few seconds should done.

Let the Victimes family and friends decide exactly how painfull his death would be. Use Emax=F(X).
The bastard can get step funtions, AC or DC, sinewave, square wave, modulated 27MHZ RF for extra fun.

It would be a polling voting device. Give the defense lawyer a control to reduce voltage. Watch the Lawyer work for his money!

The protocols vary from state to state. Most use 2200VAC for 30 seconds. The voltage is reduced to 500VAC to allow the scalp to cool. Then Another 30 seconds of 2200VAC. Not dead yet? Reduce to 500V, then another 30 second blact of 2200.

Their is much on botched electrocutions, it aint purdy!

Well FEEEEELLLIPPPP your off page one. Looks like it is just our little gang is left!
volts to insure death
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by WA2JJH on December 4, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Thats a no brainer, Cal. I can always tell if I am firing a blank or lead. Simple laws of phycics.

M=V*M. The blank has little or no recoil. You sound like you were called in for firing squad duty?
KKK fests do not count!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by WA2JJH on December 4, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Thats a no brainer, Cal. I can always tell if I am firing a blank or lead. Simple laws of phycics.

M=V*M. The blank has little or no recoil. You sound like you were called in for firing squad duty?
KKK fests do not count!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by K4JSR on December 4, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
AHA! I just caught this highlight of Feeeee lep
on the Eham Home page! Talk about old! Geeeez!
It looks like Feeeeee lep actually has been around long enough to personally know all of these Dead
Electrical Dudes!! Dig this, boys and girls!

My shack (6' by 9') in the corner of the garage shared with a water heater (at far left). Rigs: Kenwood TS-830S, LDG AT-11MP tuner, Vibroplex bug, TM-721a on 2m and 70 cm, loaner TS-570D.

RATS! The picture did not come through on my cut and
paste, but Philip was indeed young, once, a loooooong
time ago! But at least you will be able to see the
"Dorian Gray" picture of Philip when the "Highlight"
shows up!

HEE! HEE! Touche! Gotcha, Philip!

73, Cal "Now you know the rest of the story" K4JSR
(Snicker! SNICKER! GLOAT!)
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by K4JSR on December 4, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Mikee, I never executed anyone at a KKK rally.
Their inner perimeter was always too secure for me to get close enough for a good one shot kill.
Solar power is not the way to save money on executions. If you want to save big bucks, just get all of the condemned to stand in single file with nothing between them except a sheet of carbon paper.
One rifle shot should get them all!
As a NYC boy, doesn't the Sullivan Act keep you away
from firearms?
Are youse guys getting all set up to support Hitlary
for Prez in '08?
(This oughta be good for a few paragraphs from our
favorite NYC Mad Scientist!) :-P
Charles, you're next. Are you ready?
 
Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by WA2JJH on December 4, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I THINK THE TERRORIST SHOULD BE DEEP FRIED IN BACON GREASE. ALL FOR DRUG COCKTAILS TO EXTACT INTEL.

Do a mission impossible job. Strap the terrorist in an electric chair. Give him an IV of pentothal Ketamaine, and desoxephedrine.

Before the pentothal kicks in, give the terrorist a good voltage, so he thinks he is being electrocuted.

When he wakes he will be in a very suggetable state.
Have 10 Naked woman in from of him. A voice tells him Allah revided the Koran.

The woman will be top notch prostitutes. Dress up some dude to look like allAH. ALLAH tells him after one or two woman, he must confess.

The Ketamine/Yohimbe/stimulant/methaqualone coctail,
will make the guy talk!

He is rewarded with so called virgin sex, after he gives up intel. After all intel is extracted by pleasure, drug, sex, and Extreme torture.......TERMINATE
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by KA4KOE on December 5, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Cal that pix is only 2 years old. I was 39. I am now 41. See the pix on QRZ which is this year.

Yes I am gray.

PHILIP
 
RE: Dead Electrical Dudes No. 16  
by K4JSR on December 5, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Who cares what is on QRZ?
Besides, you are past 40 now and in a whole new phase of life. When you where 39 you were still young.
Now, past 40, you are a slobbering, incontinent and
incoherent OLD PHART! Admit it! When you wake up in
the mornings now, if it doesn't hurt, it ain't yours!!
MUHUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! And CREAK!!!!!
Also two years is as good as a thousand as a super
cyber ham nerd, like yourself!!!
Just think how much you aged last October while getting sand blasted by hurricanes!!
Besides, if I didn't pick on you, you would think that
I was angry or something!
By the way, have you finished the design for my big
"BAH! HUMBUG!" flashing Christmas decoration yet?

Mikee, as far as executing terrorists, I would be
happy to drown them in electrified hog farm cess pools. Of course they would all be wearing the latest
dainties from "Frederick's of Amityville" during their
execution. This would be in addition to putting the
shoe bottoms of all of their victims onto their faces and heads while being led to the cess pits.

Charles, how are those corn cobs with granny tasting these days? (That should have folks going, "HUH?"!)

73, Cal "The Compassionate" K4JSR



 
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