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Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?

G.M. (WA6CDE) on December 20, 2004
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Here we go again... asking questions

Ok let's say the wife says... one night... you like your radio noise so much... move it to the garage... I can't sleep with all that racket...

What ya gonna do?

Well not I had that expressed to me but... a friend of mine did.... and not only was he given the option of sleeping with the dog in its house but, next day found his radios all moved to the back porch... the little lady only took so much noise .. He said... ya got any suggestions…

Well being an engineer... I guess we are supposed to have the answers...(note I said supposed to...:)... but, I got to thinking... first off we need to look at our options.

The first idea was to construct a ham shack in the back yard... when we checked with the local building department... they said... less than x by y... no permit needed... which made a pretty small building... but, do-able. Until his wife again asserted her wishes... NO PERMINATE BUILDINGS IN THE BACK YARD... was the announcement on the loud speaker... (That without a working amplifier...) Looks like he and the dog are going to be best friends.... so back to the drawing board...

Then it suddenly dawned on me... hey what about a enclosed utility trailer... its about the right size... it can be moved around and the building dept will allow it so long as its not a fixture in the yard. We headed off to look for one... ouch... the sticker shock was... well bloody...

On the way home... we went by a yard sale... and bingo... there it was... a RV that had future ham shack written all over it... why it comes with built in forced air heating... (For those cold winter nights... when you might consider letting the dog in... after all he is your best friend... hmmmm...) and what's this... a roof air-conditioning unit... lots of room... metal-skinned enclosure, REFRIG for the 807's and even a stove and oven to heat them midnight snacks up... all the comforts of the house but, on wheels... and getting original one could even make it double down for a Field Day unit... this was too good to be true... we both though... and when we asked about the price ... 450... It was a steal... definitely the buy of the day...

Later after we got it home... and were sizing up the remodeling of it... another ham friend came by... and he too was getting QRN from his spouse... after looking around he jumped in his pickup truck and took off... only to return some hours later... with a older camper on the back of the truck... he too was going to change it around and make it into a ham shack... that he could park out in the back yard...

Now these guys have great radio shacks at a fraction of the cost of a conventional made shack in the back yard... (The camper cost all of 300 bucks... due to its age...and had all the same environmental equipment as the RV did) We since have found that most of the older, smaller trailers/RVs and campers can be had for under 500 bucks... while a small building will cost 5 to 6 times that

SO THE QUESTION IS... do you think these will make good cheap ham shack? And what should they add to them to make them better? Or do you think they are wasting their time, and should duke it out with the wife for room rights???

Your thoughts on the subject would be appreciated. 73 WA6CDE

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Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by LNXAUTHOR on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
- tks for the article ... had a good laugh until i realized you were serious!

:-)

- guess it depends on where you live? i've seen some nice antennas affixed to RVs, but i'm not sure if you're thinking about setting up the camper/RV in a fixed location or using mobile?

- if it's fixed, i'd park it in front of the house and paint it pink...

- i'd bet the XYL would then be very amenable to your original idea about a small shack in the backyard!

good luck!
 
RE: Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by KB1KIX on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Let me get this straight.....

Cheap shack..... fun times to be had on the radio..... no wife...... What's not to like about this arrangement?

I've seen it done and it works quite well. I thought about spending a few bucks and convertina an old "Airstream" trailer to a shack - them things are gorgeous.

If you spend a few bucks more, you can hae a nice, portable shack.

I like the idea and have been toying around with it quite a bit myself, since I've been operating mobile and that tends to get a bit cramped.

Just remember, them DC powered coffee makers are a gift from the gods!

Jonathan
 
RE: Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by KA4KOE on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Sounds like a case of the wrong person wearing the pants in the house....
 
Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by KR1ST on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Be generous! It's xmas after all. Get her some ear plugs.

As for the trailer idea. Yup, it would make a nice bedroom for her.

:-)

73,
--Alex KR1ST
http://www.kr1st.com
 
Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by K4IQT on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
<chuckle>....

Instead, how about some good quality headphones and a nice audio mixer for all those receivers that you want to hear at the same time (HF SSB, 2M FM, scanners, Howard Stern, NPR, etc.)?

It might be a bit cheaper than a new temporary home in the back yard, which is often followed by a new permanent home all by your lonesome complete with alimony, child support, no money left over for more radio gear, and no outdoor antennas!

--Terry
 
RE: Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by W6IZT on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
as Jeff Foxworthy says:

You're probably a redneck if.......
 
RE: Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by N2MG on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
My answer to: "the wife says... radio noise... I can't sleep with all that racket..."

CW and headphones!

Mike N2MG

 
RE: Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by K0BG on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I think it is time to find a new wife!

Alan, KŘBG
www.k0bg.com
 
Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by VE3UFI on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I hope your friend didn't set himself up.

If his wife really gets upset she could hookup the entire ham shack and drive off with it.

With him inside!
 
Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by N8AUC on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Sometimes I think it would be fun to have a separate ham shack, as in separate from the house. But then you look at the expense of it, and think there has to be a better solution.

Frankly, for a small fraction of the price of even the camper idea, you could have a really nice set of headphones, and solve the problem nicely.

As for the XYL....well....it's usually cheaper to keep her. And as a wise man once told me, "if momma ain't happy, nobody's gonna be happy."

73 de N8AUC
 
RE: Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by N4PEQ on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Aside from your choice of radios you will need a bunch of stuff. Here's a partial list.

Let's start with a crank-down fold over tower. That way when you finally move out you can just take everything with you.

A trap door in the floor to run the cables out. (Doubles as an escape hatch so you can get away when she's looking for you.

Generator, solar cells and batteries so that when she "forgets" to pay the electric bill or tells you to leave you can set up anywhere.

A fridge so you can have groceries delivered. (Don't want to waste time going into the house for food).

Current list of all Pizza and wing places that will deliver.

Sign on front door of house directing all deliveries (Pizza, wings, UPS, Fedex, etc.) to shack. This insures that your needed supplies will not be redirected or sent back.

High-quality executive office chair for those hours spent slaving on the air.

Comforable bed for you and the dog to rest on when the dx just isn't rolling in.

Plasma screen for TV and for reasonalbe size display of whatever you are controlling with your PC.

Video system to monitor for possible visitors.

Alarm system.
 
RE: Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by N6YVY on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
What a perfect reason to get trailer or rv for camping ie field day.
 
RE: Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by W9WHE-II on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
So the wife won't tollerate the "racket". Ever heard of headphones?
 
Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by K0RGR on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
My dad was a ham, and he built our first house, with a separate, detached hamshack. It was a great idea, and in California, no furnace was needed - the filaments from all the tubes were enough to keep it warm in the winter, but he did have a small electric heater for the coldest nights and a couple fans for the hottest days.

Make sure the trailer is well insulated and has its own air conditioning or at least a good fan/swamp cooler. That idea probably wouldn't work too well back here in the below-zero weather, unless it was a unit designed for it.

I've seen several nifty hamshacks built into garages.

I don't use it as a hamshack, but we have a really nice 10X10 stick-built shed in the backyard that's a 'temporary' building. With some insulation and electrical wiring, it would make a good hamshack.
 
Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by KG6GMT on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I work for the USFS as Camp Ground Host. Shack is 13 foot SCAMP Trailer. I have made 1000's of QSO from it over the last 3 years. Just me and 2 Lab's in the Wilds of MN. With a laptop to log and a couple of egg beaters for the Satellites and a small beam on 6 wires for the rest.
 
Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by AE4NR on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!

Well this is a good remedy for the situation,While serving in the U.S.Army signal corps we used commo vans about the size of a Pickup Camper.They most certainly were not the most comfortable arrangement for sleeping quarters but were warm and comfy while the infantry were out in the rain and freezing.If set up properly they have plenty of room for a couple of operating stations.This certainly was a lot less expensive to come up with than me building a 10x16 building in the back yard for a shack which I did last year but it has all the room I could need.
 
RE: Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by W9OY on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
All What Racket??????
 
Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by N3ZKP on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I vote for a new wife!

The day my wife dictates any aspect of my hobby is the day she goes. In my case, that will never happen because my wife remembers that a marriage is TWO people and the likes and needs of both need to be respected.

I like the story of the ham whose fiance complained, "Do I have to ride in a car with all this junk in it?" He replied "No, you are welcome to walk."

Lon
 
I vote for a new wife!  
by K4JSR on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I have been licensed, off and on, since 1954.
I am on my third wife. Ham radio uber allis!
Wives can be replaced, there is only ONE ham radio!!

73, Cal K4JSR

Ow! Honey, quit hitting me with that rolling pin!
:-D
 
RE: Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by WA6BFH on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Yes indeed, after the 'How do you wire a CW key'article, I'm begining to wonder!

If the consideration was that a Motorhome, Camper, or Trailer might make a convenient radio shack, that might be one thing. That it would have the advantage for VHF and above to 'take the rigs up to a nice mountain' to gain a better angle of radiation would be Ok. But, if the 'little lady says' move it out to the backyard or begone...... I don't think so!

I recall a lady friend who enjoyed coming into my Ham Shack to share listening to Shortwave Broadcasts. She didn't care much about Ham radio. She thought it was Ok but, just did not have the exotic appeal of a produced radio program from a foreign country. We shared some good times, curled up on the floor on big pillows listening to Radio Moscow's science program, and doing other things too!
 
RE: Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by N6VQQ on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Another place to look for a "Hamshack" is when U-Haul sells their moving trucks every so often.
They are built pretty solid and have that "huge" door through which you can put anything inside. And in the summer, you can open it and get your fresh air.
Just out of curiosity, has the misses got many hobbies that she does in the house. If so, then she is being a bit one way about it, but I'd rather move to my own shack than to get any flack from them.
In any event, I'm sure you'll have alot of unencumbered fun.
73 Ron N6VQQ
 
Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by KA8SYX on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
When I was first licenced in 1983, I used to take my rig, a TT Century 21 with internal P/S, head out to the family farm about 15mi from our town in West Virginia, and operate from a pickup camper my uncle owned. He'd parked it there a couple of years prior, next to his family's place and used it to put up family visiting from Philly. It was wired for 110VAC -- just about everything about it screamed ham radio. Antenna was a random wire about 100ft long stretched from the utility pole that brought electricity into the camper up to the peak of barn's hayloft. Ground was a simple hay wagon axle, about 4ft long, driven into the ground right outside the window. The following couple of years, until I joined the Navy in '87, were a lot of fun, and that camper was really comfortable on the chilly autumn evenings you could get in those parts. I rarely operated in town because I was on a budget (college student living in parents' home,) had room for nothing but a 15M dipole strung on the exterior wall of the second floor, between bedrooms, and was constantly plagued by some sort of QRN, like neon or fluorescent light hash. But operating from that little camper was sweet! I highly recommend it!
73, Ray KA8SYX
 
RE: Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by KF4VGX on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
What are you doing ?


Move the wife into the RV!

You and the Dog take the HOUSE!

After all he is mans BEST Friend !




Merry Christmas, PS get the dog something nice for Christmas.

Signed, Doctor Field

 
RE: Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by VE8NX on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
" I think it is time to find a new wife! "

Yes, then you can start completely from scratch! No house, no yard, no gear! The lawyers (and maybe the ex) will have it all. An obviously well thought out plan of action. Nothing like simplifying your life!

But as for the original question, a trailer would be a good choice. Could save the extra taxes a shed may bring. Its portable, has a good ground plane... One downside is if you live where the winter gets to -35. Could get a tad chilly inside. Guess you could just fire up the kazillion watt amp most seem to need to access the local repeater.
 
RE: Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by WB2WIK on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Unless you're running multi-op contests, why does any "racket" come from your hamshack?

My hamshack is inside the house in a room that has a door. I always use headphones. CW keying makes no sound, and when I operate "phone," I keep my voice quite soft, and adjust gain and compression levels for full modulation when I'm speaking softly. With the door closed, nobody can hear that I'm on the air at all, even if it's 3:00 in the morning.

I think a lot will find that the "speaker" is making most of the objectionable noises. Plug in headphones, and they all go away. If you like to get up and walk around while operating, wireless headphones work well out to a couple of hundred feet.

To this day, I can never understand when I walk into another's ham station and hear a speaker connected.

WB2WIK/6
 
Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by W6SBE on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
There is a simpler way. First, when you are lookin' for a wife, do your homework and find an older ham who has a daughter who was brought up with ham radio. Then you wine and dine her and spoil her. Then you marry the girl and after a couple of years, you start taking her to ham classes so she gets her ham ticket. Then you buy her a 2 meter talkie (cell phones hadn't been invented yet) so that you can keep in touch when you are out of the house. Hey, it worked for me. In fact it was easy for me because I answered a CQ from a guy who had a couple of daughters and met my future XYL when he invited me over to see the 'Radio Shack'. My XYL never complains about my 'noisy radio'. Heck, she doesn't even complain about the Coax on the roof and never said a thing about the coax holes in the bedroom wall when I had my old Swan 500CX in the bedroom. You just gotta talk pretty. Heck, we been married 40 years now! My XYL is K6GGB and my son is KB6CCX. He's been a ham since he was 12 so I guess it runs in the family.
 
RE: Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by KC8VWM on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
A "U-Ham" ??

I actually thought about doing this recently and viola! ..here it is posted on Eham. Go figure?!

Ok, go ahead - call me trailer trash, tater salad, redneck or anything else if you wan't, but I kinda like the idea myself.

I am going to start by replacing my vanity call sign plates for my trailer with a more personalized version: TLR TRSH

Here are some links to some other customizable ideas that could be used as mobile or even "stealth" ham
shacks too!

http://www.inflatablechurch.com/

http://d21c.com/sombra5/jpgs5/ufohouse.jpg

http://d21c.com/sombra5/jpgs1/chestofdrawers.jpg


Ever try communicating with your wife inside your home from your new ham shack trailer, but just can't seem to find the right device ? (Can also be used to send CW using the "puff & sip" method as described in QST)

http://www.totallyabsurd.com/toiletsnorkel.htm

Ham shack driving your wife nuts? Never worry about your wife sending you into the dog house again! (can be converted to a ham shack and is easily straped on for easy deployment during emergency events too!)

http://www.totallyabsurd.com/wearabledoghouse.htm


So, go ahead and build yourself a ham radio mecca shrine of your own today!

73 & Happy Holidays

Charles - KC8VWM
 
RE: Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by N6AJR on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I got rid of the wife, and tripled the size of the shack.. a great move...get up when done sleeping, talk on radio as much as I want, have friends over till 5 am , and lots of $ to spend on radio toys..perhaps She should be looking for a trailer..:)
 
RE: Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by EXWA2SWA on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
SO, a few months ago, my wife sez, "Honey, yew need a hobby! Didn't yew used to be a ham when yew were in high school? Don't yew remember Morse code from the Marines? Well, I heard about these classes ..."

A coupla questions she failed to ask were, "How much does this hobby cost? Where are yew gonna put the radio? (Only one???) Where does the antenna go? (Only one???)"

Now, she doesn't say much about it, but I've still got some figgerin' out to do regarding VHF and backup HF rigs (on accounta I ain't gonna go drillin' holes in my roll-top desk)... and the antennas are in the attic ... and I seldom use a speaker & never when she's home (headphones make a nice noise insulator) ... and, well, hey, it was her idea in the first place!

Oh yeah: I'd think an RV or a camper or a surplus military comm van would be a great shack, or an even better sewing room. But, it's OK that she keeps the piano in the house: remember, yew can tune a piano, and yew can tune a tube rig, but you can't tuna ... well, yew know.

All that and my bride of 39 years likes dogs, too!

Doncha wish yew were me?

Jim
KE5CXX









 
RE: Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by K5LXP on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I used to have some of my radios and a workshop out in the garage and the XYL complained that I would disappear out there and 'ignore' her. You'd solve your 'racket' problem but would be opening up a few more. In our new house (that she got to pick out) my hamshack/computer/workshop is in plain view of the livingroom, indoors where it's heated/cooled and the XYL can see what I'm up to. The idea of a backyard hamshack as a separate structure seems appealing at first but has many more disadvantages than advantages. In addition to the costs it's just plain not convenient. You're away from the family and most of the coveniences and comforts of the home. If you go through all the trouble and expense of getting an RV or camper for a hamshack and make it as comfortable as your home, and can actually get away with spending any useful time in it, you're effectively not married anyway. Be considerate- turn the volume down, use headphones, run computer modes. As far as 'duking it out for room rights' in most states married couples have a 50% share in common property. I haven't met a ham yet that came even close to 50% compared to the XYL, so pick a room and call it your own.

Mark K5LXP
Albuquerque, NM
 
RE: Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by KB1GMX on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
;) well boys, I am da wife!

Still you share a life and space you have to compromize. That's not the same as giving in.

My other half approves of the hobby and one bedroom of a 4 bedroom house is the engineering lab, office and shack. We like a nice house we can have guests in so the shack has a door. Just outside the room as it's in the rear is the 27 ft of rohn25 and my antennas. Works real well for a vhf op, less than 50ft of feed line worst case. The tower was endorsed by the other half, seems those poles I liked were far to wobbly flimsy looking.

However, though the radios have speakers and I use
them headphones are a commonly used accessory despite "headset hair". Not so much for the quiet but, when you digging into the QRM I find I can hear just a bit more.

We share the garage, its where the serious drilling and blasting happens for projects of all kinds.

Allison
Kb1gmx
 
Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by KE4ZHN on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Sounds to me like you need to grow some cajones and tell her to go out in the trailer. Buy your dog a nice rawhide for xmas. He sounds like the only friend you have in that household.
 
RE: Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by N6PEH on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I had all my gear in my 26 ft Motorhome in the driveway. I operated out of it for about a year. It worked very well, had heat in the winter and a/c in the summer.

The problem was; everytime I went camping, I had to move everything around. So now I'm set-up in the garage. This is working out okay. I'd like to be in the house though. Have to wait for one of the kids to move out first.

 
Dispensible wives ?? !!  
by K7PEH on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I can't believe the number of people who value this ham radio hobby more than their wives.
 
Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by K8VF on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
First:

I guess she doesn't realize how nice it is to have her hubby in the ham room/shack/closet and not out whooping it up with the boys at Hooters, or some sleazy joint. There are women everywhere looking for a working guy who can afford radio equipment.

Second:

The security of a trailer/camper would preclude me from using it if I couldn't be there 24/7. After being cleaned out a couple times, you'll agree.

Third:

Buy a set of headphones and dont talk so loud.

Nice article, but unless you are really overdoing it, the wife should never be upset about this hobby........

Much safer than some activities you could be doing.
 
Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by KE4ZHN on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
N7PEH That depends on the wife! Some are definitely worth valuing alot more than others.
 
Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by KE4ZHN on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Sorry...K7PEH My fingers tripped over each other while typing.
 
RE: Dispensible wives ?? !!  
by N4ZOU on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I have a nice and huge shack, as my wife is also a ham. We found each other via ham radio! We actually have dual shacks, His and Hers so eat your hearts out! Not only that we have a small "antique" Scotty 13 foot camper with heat, AC, refrigerator, and radios of course! We like to go to Cheaha state park with the camper and operate from the highest point in Alabama. The camper is so light and easy to pull that hooking it up and taking it along for a 2 hour pick nick is no big deal. We would never think twice about taking it along even if only going to a grocery store which is handy this time of the year when your buying for the holiday feast for in-laws and out-laws in the extended family!
 
RE: Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by N6AYJ on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
"I can't believe the number of people who value this ham radio hobby more than their wives."

Any wife who would tell her husband to get his ham station out of the house doesn't deserve to be valued. Divorce her before it gets worse! The divorce will cost more the longer you wait.
 
RE: Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by W2LYS on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Gee, mine took off on her own accord.

Now the radio & computer are out in the living room.

The cats aren't complaining...
 
Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by KC0NYK on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I used to work on the road as an electrician in the construction business. Due to the cost, inconveniece of being in a motel, hassle of renting an apartment, I bought a 30 ft 5th wheel. I had very few problems setting up a nice ham shack inside; not to mention the other creature comforts including sat. tv, sat feed for my computer, etc. Lots of room, great environmental benefits [not to mention double bed, shower, etc.]

While I spent many times the cost you describe on my last one, which I just sold this year when forced by health to retire; I have many times thought that it would sure be nice to have the rv parked in the back yard again.

Funny article by the way.
 
Not for ME! Tried it and won't be back!  
by W4XKE on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I tried the trailer bit and wasn’t impressed. Unless you have a very comfortable climate, you might as well just set up a mobile unit in the car. Things that I didn’t like included:
1. Go out there in winter and even if your heater warms up the place, the mic, key, chair, table, etc. are too cold to hang onto. It takes hours for the stuff out there to warm up… in the meantime you are VERY uncomfortable.
2. When you heat up the trailer, all the cold metal starts to condense water on it (like a pop bottle from a refrigerator) and that might be okay for an old 520 but would hate to do that to a new Orion!
3. In the summer, the trailer is much like a car in a parking lot. You can’t touch it without getting burnt on the hot metal. The radio and PS are hot before you turn them on. I had an air conditioner, but in those tight quarters it was hard to hear weak signals over the noise.
4. If I chose not to run the A/C to keep the noise down, I had to open the doors and windows. Mosquitoes and every biting bug known to man were attracted by my lights and after shave.
5. I ended up with a lot of expensive gear out in the trailer and I worried about losing it to some 5-fingered entrepreneur who might need a some bux for his next coke deal. There isn’t a great deal of security on most trailers.
6. I didn’t have a full hookup so had to make regular visits to the house for relief stops, sandwiches, phone calls, etc. It’s very inconvenient as compared to a shack in the basement or attic, for example.
Maybe you could frame out a walk-in closet type enclosure and do some sound-proofing in the walls. You won’t like the trailer unless it is located like the one on Rockford Files in sunny California! Johnny, W4XKE
 
Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by K4PCF on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Don't forget to run at least a 35 amp line out to the trailer. Also, you'll need to put in a small septic system. Otherwise, you'll be hauling the thing off to the nearest dump station on a regular basis.

Fun post.
 
RE: Dispensible wives ?? !!  
by N3ZKP on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
PEH:
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<< I can't believe the number of people who value this ham radio hobby more than their wives. >>

I DON'T value my hobby over my wife. I have my hobbies and she has hers and we SUPPORT each other's interest.

I can't believe the number of wives who are so selfish they think they have the final say-so on whatever the husband does, wants, likes, etc. There's a phrase for that, as I'm sure you know.

Fortunately, I live in company-provided housing so who pays for what doesn't come up, but I guarantee you that if I were making mortgage payments and it all was coming out of what I make, there's no way under the sun the spouse is going to tell me what I can and can't do with, to or in my own house. :)

Same deal for what goes in a vehicle - I'm paying the bills, then I decide. Her car that she's paying for - she decides.

Lon (OINK!)
 
About the XYL!  
by W4XKE on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
In response to the comments made concerning your wife, I’d also like to add something. Love is caring about someone more than you care about yourself. It’s like Percy Sledge said in his song, “When a Man Loves a Woman” he’ll sleep out in the rain if that’s what it takes to make her happy. I’m fortunate enough to have found a woman that is worth sleeping in the rain for. Judging from some of the other comments, either these guys have no capacity to truly love or are in love with themselves. (Scott Peterson comes to mind.) I enjoy my radio station, but am considerate of my other half to make sure she isn’t ignored or neglected in favor of some gadget that will have no eternal meaning. If you have a good wife, you have something worth more than rubies or gold. Take care of her and make sure she is numero uno! Johnny, W4XKE
 
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by W1GFH on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I can't believe your XYL would actually prefer a saggy, beat-up camper/trailer rusting away in the back yard to a neat, trim, little outbuilding painted to match the house. Have you tried reasoning with the lady?
 
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by W8FAX on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Sounds to me like it's time to get a little backbone.......
 
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by N5BSD on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I found several of these on EBay not to long ago, they had found a number of them and the partner only wanted the Collins gear out of them :( (lose of Collins gear) ahh well, these were the units designed to fit in a deuce and a half. went for about 1500 plus shipping, good shape, but I think a small travel trailer or older RV might be had cheaper and could be made portable a bit more easily. Well unless you have a large lift truck around the house somewhere HI HI
 
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by N5BSD on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
dangit, forgot to quote the message I was replying to,
I was rferencing the Military Comm Vans.
I hate having 3 things die at once
 
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by WA6BFH on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Yes, you might tell her -- Hey, when I spinning the dial on my radio, you know where I am. Would you rather have me out and about tweaking the knobs on some floozy?
 
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by WA1RNE on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!

Sounds like wifey needs a hobby too.

Maybe she's secretly interested in ham radio but wants her hubby to introduce her "to show that he really cares."

Sounds pretty female to me....


The trailer is OK, but open season for the local thieves....

Can't wait for the new Elmer's post, "Hey, how do I ground my trailer? ...the thing is full of RF when I key the mic."
 
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by WA6BFH on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Ya mean, women are from Venus, my Ham shack was built to talk to Mars.

And..... should I use shielded cable to put a 35 Amp 220 VAC service to my trailer?
 
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by K1CJS on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
"Until his wife again asserted her wishes... NO PERMINATE BUILDINGS IN THE BACK YARD... was the announcement....."

Seems like one person is laying down the law--isn't the arrangement supposed to be 50-50? If it was my house, it would be--or she would be out the door! (And no, that isn't what happened to my ex--she was supportive of my ham habit!)
 
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by WA6BFH on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Hey, why don't they make a 'standard cable' to wire up my trailer as a Ham shack?
 
RE: About the XYL!  
by N3ZKP on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
<< “When a Man Loves a Woman” he’ll sleep out in the rain if that’s what it takes to make her happy.>>

Yes, but it will be MY decision to sleep out in the rain, not her's. Any wife that tells her husband to take his hobby out of the house because she doesn't like it is just plain selfish.

I love my wife more than life itself, but that doesn't mean I let her control every part of my life. Women who want to do that are selfish and the men who let them get away with it are stupid.

Marriage is two-way street and BOTH have a right to have their needs and wants met. A one-sided marriage in which either partner has the final sayso on everytthing isn't much of a marriage.

Patsy and I have been married for 38 years and every year gets better!!!

Lon
 
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by N5YPJ on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Someone desperately needs to learn how to wear the pants.
 
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by WA1RNE on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!

KB1GMX;

Sooner or later, I knew there would be XYL participation in this post. I had the same arrangement as you before kiddies. My Collins AM station went into storage along with my VHF gear and most of my antennas. My VHF gear consisted of a pair of Hallicrafters HA-6 and HA-2 transverters driven by a IC-740. Bet that's an rare combo these days....

I'm still trying to come up with a compromise using the Study temporarily - scaled down of course, but functional. The walk-up attic is the target radio room.....

Hey, I can't believe nobody thought of this guys most daunting problem.....what if she pulls the plug??

Here comes the armored cable and 10kW generator threads!!!!

73, Chris .....remember, all in fun folks......
 
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by W3DCG on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Get one of these, or make one.
Take a digital picture of it, mainly the
graphics, then have it painted exactly the same as the digital photograph, make it look the same.

Or just call them and see how much to purchase one of these, if possible, would be the "proper" choice.

http://www.podsusa.com/

Call an electrician friend to run some RV hookups.

I'm joking.

The quick and dirty would be stick a tent up there until she's sick of a Tent in the backyard. Joking again...

Or, more seriously, you could build a real shack. Or, there are many prefabricated such storage structures available from a number of places, which convert easily into a shack, and look nice, too! Some feature windows, skylites, and loft space. Pick it out, schedule delivery, and your storage shack is constructed in one day. Drill holes to your heart's content!!! Wire it big time. Might take several days if you want to get all fancy with concrete footing and foundation. You see these things on the side of the parking areas at Home Depot and Lowe's. Some places specialize in them, often advertised near where mobil homes are sold.

Or maybe you're lucky enough to afford a real RV. She can have the house, you live in the RV, might work wonders for marriages, you know, ya'll could start "dating" again. I've heard of couples having wonderful rekindled relationships when they give each enough space to rediscover and invent themselves, without losing each other.

You knock on her door, wonder if she's busy, hope she'll be happy to see you, and the same for her. Ask her if she'd be interested in grabbing some coffee and pastrie, and hope she says yes. People cannot take things so easily for granted, when it's no longer an automatic given.

Oh yeah, we're talking about a shack. Well, I just realized that a shack should have a way to entertain, your wife, even if it's a fold out TV tray that can hold coffee or tea, so you can both visit with each other once in a while, when she happens to enter your domain. Have some hot tea with her there, before she flutters away. Be sure to have some honey- so she doesn't flutter away completely empty. Having a problem with your shack all of a sudden might be a symptom of another kind of trouble.
 
RE: Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by WA6BFH on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Carl Jung would have a Field Day (pun intended) with DCG's post!
 
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by KB4EN on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
mine is a 1957 15 foot camper $150 tore out dinette and bed... shack at one end workbench at other..I dont want headphones i want surround sound...it is a great setup and my wife can still call me to dinner
and bed..pix if anyone is interested
Jim
now W0OX
Pendleton OR
 
RE: RV/Trailer as Ham Shack  
by N2LJD on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Did it.

I've a Flagstaff SR-176 pop-up camper rigged with deep-cycle RV battery for use as a portable/Field Day setup. Got its first try 28 NOV 04 on top of Brady Mtn, Warwick NY in a torrential downpour when I tried to operate as KN0WCW/2. Made a whopping two contacts; however, the idea proved itself, and I learned I need to think out the wire runs and rig layouts a little more.

Wait'll next Spring!

73

Joe
 
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by KG6TT on December 20, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Well on the practical side. If you live in an area where it gets cold and wet then your equipment is not going to last long unless you keep the trailor climate controlled at all times.... at least reasonably so. Heat, cold, condensation, corrosion, rust,..... Up side is NEW equipment far more often!
 
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by N2WEC on December 21, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Great story. But I have to say, "I have it better". I told the YL I was putting a small operating station in the corner of the bedroom in addition to the main shack off the kitchen (we spend alot of time together, she likes to cook and I play radio.)she had no problem.....This included drilling two holes in "her" walls. The antennas are in the attic and the 817 is on a small computer desk in the corner. I found out she has turned it on to listen to 6 meters and international broadcast. BTW she too has a ticket. Your poor friend needs to say "I live here too!!!" I wish him the best. Again great ideas.
 
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by CDX584 on December 21, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I have the best setup, I am in the south end of my home and she is in the north end, and sometimes we meet in the middle. cdx584
 
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by AC7KZ on December 21, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
This shows hams will do anything, or rather make anything into a ham shack.
 
Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by GM7CXM on December 21, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
KE4ZHN: Cajones are drawers, shurely shome mishtake?
 
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by KC8VWM on December 21, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
"I used to have some of my radios and a workshop out in the garage and the XYL complained that I would disappear out there and 'ignore' her. "

I tend to think that Mark's statement is more likely 99% of the problem with any ham shack setup regardless of whether the equipment is physically located in the basement, attic, or outside in a trailer.

The noise radio's generate may only be the precluded "excuse" to another problem at hand.

Similarly, I have heard non ham techno computer geeks with elaborate computer shacks located somewhere in a secluded location in the house suffering from the same attention deficit issue with their wives when they spend countless hours "surfing the web" away from the proximity of their wives.

Interesting discussion.

73 & Happy Holidays

Charles - KC8VWM
 
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by W3NRL on December 21, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Good writing, trailer is good idea hope it's stands up to the weather in your area (hot, cold and wet weather).
What ever you can afford you will make it work.
Happy Holidays
73 de w3nrl
 
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by W1TXT on December 21, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Fortunately, I operate out of my barn. I have a workshop that's about 24 x 16 and coverted that over to an office. Included in the office are the following goodies:

Lots of HF gear
Rack Mount Server + Laptop (all wireless Internet enabled)
Sofa
Microwave
Small fridge
TV
Stereo
Exercise equipment

The barn has a multi-fule furnace, water, telephone and electricity (of course).

I like to think of it as my private domain and recommend you get your trailer/shack set up as soon as possible. You'll be glad you did! Now, I come out here several nights/week and fall asleep to the seat sound of 80 meters. Ahhhhh

Tom / W1TXT
 
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by N9WB on December 21, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
D-i-v-o-r-c-e
 
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by N9WB on December 21, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
D-i-v-o-r-c-e
 
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by EI2GN on December 21, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Try operating from the 19th for a while?
 
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by N3ZKP on December 21, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
<< Similarly, I have heard non ham techno computer geeks with elaborate computer shacks located somewhere in a secluded location in the house suffering from the same attention deficit issue with their wives when they spend countless hours "surfing the web" away from the proximity of their wives. >>

That often cuts both ways. Many times there is a good reason why husbands "isolate" themselves. There's needs to be a reason to bring one's self out of isolation.

Having said that, The proper encouragement will get me away from the radio with all due haste. That's called communication. :)

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year all.

Lon
 
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by N3ZKP on December 21, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
<< Similarly, I have heard non ham techno computer geeks with elaborate computer shacks located somewhere in a secluded location in the house suffering from the same attention deficit issue with their wives when they spend countless hours "surfing the web" away from the proximity of their wives. >>

That often cuts both ways. Many times there is a good reason why husbands "isolate" themselves. There's needs to be a reason to bring one's self out of isolation.

Having said that, The proper encouragement will get me away from the radio with all due haste. That's called communication. :)

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year all.

Lon
 
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by WA6BFH on December 21, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
The first link below is to a web page showing a handy desk design, one I'm happy to say, I had thought of as a Ham Desk in the 1970's. Plywood was expensive then! This is from the time period when I was in my succesion of apartment Ham Shacks.

The only differences are, now this is called a "Computer Desk", instead of a Ham Radio Bench. Also, I did not make the small seating bench, as this author has done. I used a regular desk chair (it was often pressed into service for visitors and dinner guests). The wood that he used for the bench, I built more shelves for Power Supplies etc. My bench had 3 shelves for radios, plus the desktop, and 2 shelves below for supplies etc. I like his bench though! It would be good for log books, uh, I mean computer disks, and maybe a set of electronic tools, soldering iron etc.

The article link below is an article that I wrote not too long after the Ham Desk Project article. A Waynis connector is a very handy adaptation that I and some friends had used since our High School days. It beats the pants of Anderson Power Poles when out in the "Field". Try asking for an Anderson Power Pole at the little hardware store out in podunk Pineville!


http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/8108/plywooddesk.html

http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/2775/waynis.html


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RE: Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by WA6BFH on December 21, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
R-T-O-M is not limited to specific dates, such as the 19th of the month!
 
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by KE6PKJ on December 21, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
http://www.mailorderbrides.com/
 
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by KE6PKJ on December 21, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
http://www.mailorderbrides.com/
 
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by KE4ZHN on December 21, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Duncan, perhaps my spanish spelling isnt so hot, but I was simply trying to say to the author to grow some balls! Besides, if he grew some, he would need bigger drawers to hold them right? lol
 
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by KE4ZHN on December 21, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Duncan, perhaps my spanish spelling isnt so hot, but I was simply trying to say to the author to grow some balls! Besides, if he grew some, he would need bigger drawers to hold them right? lol
 
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by WA6BFH on December 21, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I think that this problem should be referred to Dr. Laura. She would have an answer!

Of course, I remember some flic's of her on the Internet....., would I want her in my shack?
 
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by WA2JJH on December 21, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Sounds cool to me ace! Every man needs his space! His on little Mecca or Taj Mahal/

Think of all the advantages too.

1)Crash pad for a new girlfriend or two. The wife aint going to like that too much!!!!!

2)Rent the joint out for KKK or Islamic terror groups
They pay cash, plus you turn over the video tapes to the FBI!

3)Make sure you get a large enough RV for an indoor swimming pool bowling alley, and projection TV. You can put the screen outside. Have movie nights!!!

4)Have a working gas generator and voltage inverter in case of power outage. Make sure the GENNY is 15KVA minumum!
You cannot operate with out your HENRY RADIO 5K Classic Export only AMP. Keep the drive down and ALC up, you want to stay legal. If you are a freebander, just operate class C!

5)Its yours! Start a he mans woman haters club!

Just think, you will be getting back to nature by getting out of your house. Walk briskly from home to shack and back.

I do know of HAMS that have converted old ENG TV-News
vans into thier shacks.
The big advantge is the 30 foot hydrolic mast.
Great for any type of antenna(s).

 
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by VA1CQ on December 21, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Check the link below. This is my mobile ham shack. Is this what you had in mind?

http://www.arrl.org/contests/soapbox/index.html?con_id=78&call=ve7ha


Murray
 
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by KD4TOQ on December 22, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I am now living in Australia with the VK4DGG Ozzie callsign. I also opted for the camping trailer hamshack idea. I married my wife late in life and moved here into her home with her two children. There just was not room in the house for all my ham gear. We looked at adding a room but was going to cost at least $20,000 dollars. She was very keen to have me continue my hobby. I was very close to buying a portable building like you might see on a construction site. I was driving down the road and there it was, a 17 foot camping trailer. The price was right, about $500.oo US. It has worked out great. No permits needed, I moved it inside my 6 foot high yard fence. Steel bars on windows, an innner door also of heavy steel, and two types of burglar alarms, and one feisty Ozzie terrier to bark nosy people along the way. I added shelves along the walls, and a three level operating desk for the ham radios and laptops. I actually think this is a great solution, second only to the kids leaving home and moving in the house. I am very satisfied with the arrangement.

73's
Mark
 
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by N7XM on December 22, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
No unless you live in a very mild climate!

Get a nice pair of headphones and USE THEM!

IF the XYL complains with headphones on
You need to remove the WIFE !

What is the problem with these HEN PECKED
men ? You need to reevaluate things here
 
Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by KE5BCG on December 22, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Why not just use a pair of headphones?
I don't understand why that would not eliminate all the racket.
 
Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by N5IHS on December 22, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Old RV's are like most everything else in life..... You get what you pay for. Upkeep and maintenance on an RV are quite expensive. Get all those systems working, then drive it down the road at 70 mph, and all that shaking and vibration take a toll quickly. Ah but I'm forgeting something very important.... They sure are fun, and you can have your radios all set up to operate in some great places. $65,000 plus would be a good starting point for one that will really get the job done. If you spend that much though it probably better be able to cook, sew, do laundry, etc. because you will probably end up short in a few of those departments.

Good luck, partner!!
 
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by W1BAK on December 23, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Just where is everyone getting these bargain RV's from?? A simple ratty pop-up sells for huge bucks up here in the northern woods (Central Maine, USA).

It always works like this: "Sir...how much for the 1958 travel trailer with the rotten tires and leaky roof?" and the answer from the local Mainer is: "Whet's it wirth to yeh?" or "What'll yer give me for it?"
And you walk away $1200 lighter with plans to spend another $3000, just to replace the rusty axle, tires, wheels and repair the leaky roof, dancing in your head.
 
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by KB7LYM on December 23, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
One must be happy in marriage.

The following is what you have to do.


A Man should have a Wife that looks like a Moviestar.
Is the envy of every men who takes a look at her. She must be sexy. She must always dress in the latest style.

A man needs a Wife that cleans,scrub the floors,wash the laundry. repairs anything that is broken. She must know how to clean fish, skin a Deer, chop wood and dig sewer lines.

A man needs a Wife that loves her husband hobbies, never talks back, always agrees. Listen to the tiks of the shiny CW key and runs when the master needs his coffee or other needed items.



Please scroll down ...............





































Yes you are almost there ~~~~\@@/~~~

















A MAN NEEDS 3 WIVES !!!!


 
A Nice Ham Shack?  
by N8GNI on December 23, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
When men were men and beer was beer!

http://www.w5qx.org/images/schlitz1.jpg
 
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by N1YRK on December 23, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Husband and Wife need to agree on a solution, neither dictates.

That being said, onto the trailer question: What climate do you live in? Because some place like Alaska or Michigan or Maine are ill-suited to a standard recreational trailer. They don't have much insulation, if any, and not much of an electrical system. Toilets tend to be chemical and not very comfortable. They aren't built for security, so make sure you have some additional lock on the door.

The live-in type of mobile home is going to be better insulated. But I haven't seen them in small sizes. Do you have room for a large one? Would zoing permit it? Can you find one cheap? And remember these things can't be pulled with your average pickup truck.

Maybe a construction utility trailer would be better. Smaller, easier to pull, but still insulated. But some of these don't have toilets.

Ebay is a pretty good place to look for things. But don't just buy something that's cheap, only to drive halfway across the continent to find out that you've bought an unusable piece of junk. You can search for things within a distance from your location.

Whatever you do, tell the XYL to be patient, you're on the project, and you are trying to keep away from a financial sinkhole, ugly piece of junk.

I have seen some people saying you get what you pay for, $50k or your shack will fall apart when you move it. BS! You don't need gold-plated luxury for a couple of hours a week in the backyard. A few thousand dollars should be sufficient to buy a smaller, used unit. Shop wisely, make sure you are legal, and can haul what you buy.
 
RE: Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by N4ZFQ on December 23, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I can't believe the number of hams that are held hostage in thier own homes. Why do women think that they can dictate to thier men to what extent they can enjoy thier hobbies in thier own homes?? And, why do you guys put up with such an attitude from these overbearing women. Damn, get some backbone and put your shack where you want to. sheeezzzsh remember, overbearing women usually end up alone!!!
 
RE: Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by WA6CDE on December 23, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Wow... I have noticed that a lot of back east call signs are saying that the cost is so great for a piece of junk trailer...

I was on Ebay... their were several airstream trailers... most in the 25 to 31 ft range... that went for about 5 grand.. some even less... so its got a small dent in it... smile...

But,...

If you get out of the snow... and come out to the left coast... bring your visa, American express or Capitol one card... all are accepted out here where its 80 degrees on the beach...(hint..hint) ... here you will find most RVs meet the requirements almost as stringent as a house... if not better insulated... and be it alaska or down south... they are well insulated ... and just think...

If you buy one here...drag it back to the... other... coast... and sell it.. you should be able to make enough money to pay for the vacation and trip... if as you say...all they have is junk back their...

by the way... there is more to our friends story... as this adventuer contenued... seems his wife... now wants him back in the house... because... ITS TOO QUIET... and LONELY... now that he is speding his time out back in the ham shack with the dog... hmmmm .. for better or for worse... seems to have a whole new meaning.. huh...


As to ham shacks... on wheels... their have been several articles about them in QST.... as well as the Wally Bombers... and Sams... I know.. I had one for a few years... 31 ft Airstream... it was a lot of fun...

Not only does it make a good ham shack... (breaking into one in the back yard with killer on the loose... ain't gona happen) but, these trailer clubs... AVION has one too... also have get togeathers.... some strictly for hams only... check the web...for times, events and frequencies... so the mobile shack parked in the back yard is very useful... for recreation too... however, I think 65K might kinda be excessive for most ham radio operators...


And for the guy who wrote... and can't decide which is better.. be it be a Camper, Trailer or Motorhome... good luck... that debate has gone on ever sence they made 'em...

73's
WA6CDE
 
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by K1YDA on December 23, 2004 Mail this to a friend!


Up here in the frozen north we have Family Court which can aften resolve these male female power contests. which are are less about the hobby than who wears the pants.
 
RE: Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by KD4BPZ on December 23, 2004 Mail this to a friend!

Myself and some friends got together and did something like this. We are lucky to have space for antennas and cooperative families. It's a little bit more permanent that an RV. Take a look.

http://www.fieldcomm.org/shack

Jay
KD4BPZ
 
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by W3RRK on December 23, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Let me guess. The XYL does as she pleases with the house though, right? LAUGHING.
Someone needs to grow a set.
Going back to playing radio.

Mark W3RRK
 
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by W3UA on December 24, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
There is another engineering approach. I had a dream to put a little biddy tribander on a 40' tower (the height limit in the University Park in Texas), but got "no go" from my XYL. No ham shack in the house (I was forced to build a cubicle in the garage).

I was nice and considerate for some time... then find a solution.

Now I have two 80' towers with 4 ele for 40, 2-stacks for 20 and 15 (full size 5 and 6 elements), 3-stack for 10 (7 elements each beam), and NO ONE to complain if I shout "CQ contest". And since my new QTH is mine AND ONLY MINE, my girlfriends do not complain -- and hardly will.

Live free or die!
 
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by AA4VX on December 25, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
First, I love the article and the answers; some were pretty amusing. My first instinct tells me that this marriage is going to be finished soon anyway and the noise from the shack is not the real issue! I married for a second time 20 years ago and agreed to raise a child in her faith and to live in a development because she thought that was important for the social development of the child, having friends and things of that nature. Due to circumstances, we sold that home and when we went looking she found the home we presently live in. A 3000 sq. ft 2 year old home on 1.2 acres and the neighborhood is rather sparse, to say the least. It is funny that she has on a number of occasions tried to convince me to take one of the bedrooms upstairs and convert it to my station, including her home office upstairs. However, I am the one that has raised the issue of sounds late at night and disturbances. From my previous experiences with an upstairs ham station, I'm planning to be building in this home a 1,000 square foot ham station built in the basement within a couple of years. So, she convinced me to move the washer and dryer out of the laundry room right next to the kitchen and the bathroom on the lower floor and move it upstairs as she likes the convenience and this room will become my station until the basement is converted to my taste. Due to emergency health issues that have arose, I plan to install an elevator in this home this Spring and that will assure the enjoyment for both of us. It is a two way street. And I really find it funny because my wife hates to look at my towers and antennas, and I consider her swimming pool a cess pool! So, that's marriage for you! 73's Have a good holiday. Gene K2QWD
 
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by KB0USY on December 25, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Just as long as they can work it out.I agree on 50/50.As for my house the shack is shared with kc0crx.
Always been interested in what each of us like to do.Plus Paul Barnard what is CDX584.
steve
kb0usy
 
RE: Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by N7FGF on December 25, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Great idea. I have a 14 foot Burro (double shell fiberglass) Travel Trailer. Has all the radio gear in it. Good for field day, camping, and emergency use. Everything is 12v D.C., seems to be a lot easier to come up with 12v D.C. than 110v A.C. all the time. Good luck.. If you are lucky, and leave the radio equipment on.. It might generate enough heat to keep the place warm and not need heat otherwise.

Good luck and I wish more people would do this... To keep everyone happy. Have a hearing problem here. Even with earphones, the YL closes the door in the house, to the spare bedroom... She's a light sleeper, when she really needs the sleep... Well out to the trailer I go... VHF/UHF/2 meter packet/HF in the trailer... No problem. So this works out well for me. I feed the wires thru the floor, and when no wires (coax) are there, it snaps shut to remain waterproof when not in use. At home, I use a weatherhead to feed my coax in. Of course allow for a rain drip loop on the coax before the cable comes in... 73 de N7FGF Johnnie SK
 
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by K8XQ on December 25, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Cut your loses before you have more stuff for her and her attorney to take.Divorce the BITCH!
By the way I am on my fourth wife and my shack is in the bedroom.I am typing this as she sleeps in the same room.The third divorce resulted after an argument about a 2mtr antenna on the car. Anyway who's paying the motgage? I have a hint Ham Radio isn't the only problem in that house.
 
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by N0EW on December 26, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Simple: divorice.

Obviously this marriage does not offer mutual respect of interests, so what is the point of continuing to be married? What is the next ultimatum? And the next??

Find someone that will either enjoy or at worse tolerate you for being you.

-Erik n0ew
(Obviously single and happy with shack in the living room, hi-hi!)
 
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by KJ4I on December 26, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
The wife would be gone.. Problem solved..
 
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by WA2JJH on December 27, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Yes, it is true...some wives will hear cw from the head phones.

Get even...tell her that her hair drier is driving you crazy!

If you want a really cool mobile shack, check out wolf coach. The make the microwave/satelight trucks.

You can buy decommisioned news vans for $25,000.
You say that is a lot of money.

However you get a 12v-110 1 kilowatt inverter. Extra TRUCK BATT, and heavy duty alternator.

You may pay more if the 30 foot pnumatic mast is working. However think of the great antenna you can put on it. It rotates, pans and tilts. Put a small beam up their.

all the 19" racks are left in for your rigs and other equipment It will seat 4 hams with elbow room.

The mast is great for setting up inverted v's, verticals, and slopers. The flying sorcer antenna is for TV. If they left you a super quad or 2 gig golden
thats great for 2.3 gig work!

VERY IMPORTANT----DO NOT DEFEAT THE MAST/IGNITION INTERLOCK. one of our camera dudes drove the truck around with the 30 foot mast up! The dish/2gig amp and lna were found 1/2 mile away after he went under a 15 foot under pass!
 
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by WD9FUM on December 28, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
I bought my house when I was still single. I had a great master bedroom, hamshack and office. Then I got married to my wonderful wife who has a daughter from her previous marraige. There went the office. My next step was to get her pregnant with our son. There went the hamshack.

I finished the basement and put some great soundproofing in the ceiling. I can operate at any time and not disturb the wife and kids when they're upstairs.

Of course there are times when we share the basement. The kids come down to play and my wife has her sewing hobby down there. All I have to do when the rest of the family comes down is put on the 'phones and everybody is happy.

The trailer idea sounds like a great option for anybody who can swing it. Instant Field Day!
73 & Happy New Year!
 
Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by WA2JJH on December 28, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Sounds like a Norman Rockwell Painting....COOL!
 
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by WA2JJH on December 28, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
JOKE: A ham is yelling at his wife......just what the %%^%$&^%$$$&^^^%$## am I supposed to do, operate QRP in a thrown out refrigerator box??????

The dude then purchased a K-2. Well, I have a good radio, and an earth ground the ham said after a great rain made his shack-refrigerator box soggy.
 
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by W0OX on December 28, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
wowsers everyone has a comment...My shack is now in my lil ole 1957 15 foor trailer..parked just off the deck and ten feet from the hot tub,,18 steps to the frig...and 14. to the kitchen table.. As much as I love my radios they dont compare to my wife..but lucky i dont have any nasty choices like that...six kids later she even knows the jargon"DX, MUF, CQ world wide, bureau, etc" as added benefit she will even take the mike and yell" Whiskey zero Ocean Xray"into the big pileups for me ..gotta scoot now she callin from the bedroom (28 big steps) Happy New Year all Jim Pendleton OR
 
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by KE5CLJ on December 28, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
How about a link with some pictures? Sounds like Shangrala to me!

Joe, KE5CLJ
 
RE: Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by WN3R on December 29, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
My story is a little different.

I live in a neighborhood with an active homeowners association so I hid my dipoles in the trees behind my house. Last year my XYL calls the county to do some tree trimming. It seems that the trees needing trimming were the same trees I was using for antennas. Since the trees belonged to the county I was politely told to remove my antennas. That ended all hamming from the home QTH. Determined to have a better shack and antenna farm before I died, I announced I was going to buy some land on top of a nearby mountain.

Together we went looking for land. Some of the roads were so narrow that my XYL said she would never come up.

After nearly 3 months I found a lot and bought it without her seeing it. I told her about it and my plans for a radio shack and lots of antennas. Not wanting to spend much money on a shack, I considered a lean-to, a garage, a trailer and finally decided on a three car garage with an apartment over it for a ham shack. XYL nixed the idea of an apartment and agreed to bathroom and a shack above the garage.

Then she wanted to see the lot. Our 50 minute ride was a direct one - really just two turns off the interstate. The 10 acre lot was on a nicely paved road surrounded by some pretty nice houses.

To make a long story short, I'm getting my 2 car garage with a third bay for the workshop, and a large room and full bath. Attached to "my space" is her 4 bedroom mountain retreat complete with a dining room large enough to hold all of our children and grandchildren (So far, there are only 18 of us).

After 47 years of hamming, I'll finally have a tower taller than 40 feet and I'll be just 12 minutes from one of the best golf courses in the state.

It's a compromise where together will be able to enjoy our favorite past time: Being with our family and friends.

As for the expense: I believe we are simply investing some of our retirement funds in an asset which is certain to increase in value. Over time, any "monetary cost" will turn positive into a great real estate investment.
 
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by WA2JJH on December 30, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
HOW ABOUT THIS MORONIC IDEA.

Ever see those emergency shelters that inflate with a few CO-2 cartidges. Just have a long wire connected
to a high tension pole. What BPl! If you elect to have a Gas Genny, inside the shack operation is not recommended.

Wanna really bust a Radio shack workers hump??
Tell him it is in the catalogue. AN INFLATABLE RADIO SHACK!!!!TELL HIM IT IS FOR CB.
Make sure you tell them you bought a cell phone, sat TV, stereo, computer and TV the other day at that same store.
Tell em you also work for DURACELL. You get all the batteries you need.TO ADD TRIPLE SALT to the injury.....SAY IN A LOUD VOICE......AH YEAH....WE AT DURACELL SELL RADIO SHACK OUR B STOCK BATTERIES!!!!!!
 
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by N1GXC on December 30, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Around here. What the king wants...the king usually get's. I bought a 14' X 20' manufactured shed for a ham shack and the wife is using it for storage. So I took over the extra den and all is well. She's a great king.
 
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by WA2JJH on December 30, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
gENETICLY ENGINEER A BUNCH OF WASPS TO BUILD ROOM SIZE
NEST'S! GENETICLY ENGINEER A PHERMON TO GET THE WASPS OUT!
 
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by W5LJM on December 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Here's a website to visit http://www.arrl.org/acode.html .
Here you'll find out what the hobby is all about and why it SHOULD not interfere with a family situation. Read the "BALANCED" line. My wife is also a ham but at first she wanted nothing to do with it. "It's only a fancy version of CB with all the noise and idiots." Was she right? Well, yeah kinda IN SOME CASES on some bands. But she realized that there were GOOD aspects to it as well.
Since our radios are locted in our bedroom, out of respect for her and her privacy, I wear headphones. And she does the same when she decides to get on the air.
No couple can actually live in PERFECT HARMONY and agree on everything, but don't let a hobby tear it apart.
 
RE: A Nice Ham Shack?  
by W5LJM on December 31, 2004 Mail this to a friend!
Nice image!
Yeah, I can see this lady walking over to the desk, "accidentally" tripping. The beer bursting against the desk cabinet. Exploding into a foamy waterfall down each shelf into each radio cabinet, shorting every electrical component and smoking his prized HF radio. "Oops, I'm so sorry dear. Tee-hee-hee-hee." or " Did I do thaat?"
take care 73
 
RE: I vote for a new wife!  
by AD5FU on January 6, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Better to get the wife licensed.

KD5QMD has never given me any trouble about my radio activities, except possibly finding her a chair when she joins in.

73 de AD5FU
 
RE: Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by WA6CDE on January 6, 2005 Mail this to a friend!
Hey I was sent this from a nother ham... and its listed here on eham.... as far as using a trailer...

check it out...

http://www.armymars.net/ArmyMARS/Response%20Kit/index.html

he has construction pictures and all... for the trailer they assembled for the MARS response group... neat...

Could be adapted for the back of the PU or even puttting into a van... etc...

One person wrote... get a smaller ham station... like the 706 and put it in the bathroom... grin... ahhhh ya... that makes for great sounds while operationg... hmmmm...

Thanks all for the great responses...
 
RE: Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by KB0KMJ on June 21, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
I think you best bet is a seperate room on the house. Then if you can't sleep in the night and want to operate you can head to the shack without getting all dressed before you go outside to your ham shack. I often sit in my underware and intoxicate myself in my ham shack. My wire knows where I am but I am still out of her way. One time I spilled a jar of pickled herring on the floor of my ham shack.
 
RE: Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by KB0CIM on June 21, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
I love pickled herring, thats a real shame Mike. I prefer a shack seperate from the house, not a bad idea with the camper. Up North here the biggest issue is heating it in the winter. Air conditioning in the summer. Winter time is my best time to be in the shack so I heat it all winter, I would be afraid of that in a camper. Not much insulation in any camper I have ever seen. I guess one would have to try it and see how much it costs to heat it, that would be my only concern. 73
 
RE: Would This Make a Nice Ham Shack?  
by KB0KMJ on June 22, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
That last post was suppose to say my wife, not my wire hihi. Ya, I'll never forget the time when I bought a brand new 1000d. We were operating FD and one of the ops spilled a large jar of pickled herring right on top of my rig. However after the spill the Norweigen stations started coming in a lot stronger.
 
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