Tsunami Emergency Traffic Info:
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December 28, 2004
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Echolink,IRLP and HF 7.060 mhz phone has been set and ready for emergency traffic as well as health and welfare traffic to the effected area. However those wishing to pass traffic do to 3rd party restrictions both here in the U.S. and canada are unable to do so. E-mail via several stations in the effected area your best bet the stations in the effected area are trying there best to get the info out. I understand canada has been trying to lift the 3rd party restrictions within the last fews hours. For those just looking for information you can join in via the Alaska and canada conference servers. There have been several stations passing information from the effected area's and have been receiving updates from officials. For the latest up to date info join one one the conference's mentioned above. There is a special hotline 1784 department of disaster prevention. Ministry of thailand. For those who have relatives they think may be in the effected area.
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by KG4LMU on December 28, 2004
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Third Party Traffic Question
Since none of the countries affected by the earthquake and tsunami have third-party traffic agreements with the US, the question has been raised about the legality of such traffic--especially health-and-welfare messages--between those countries and US amateur stations. A staff member in the FCC's Wireless Telecommunications Bureau points out that the international Radio Regulations as revised at World Radiocommunication Conference 2003 (WRC-03) provide that amateur stations may be used for transmitting international communications of behalf of third parties only in case of emergencies or disaster relief.
"An administration may determine the applicability of this provision to amateur stations under its jurisdiction," the FCC staff member told ARRL. Although the FCC has not formally adopted the changes approved at WRC-03, he continued, "the FCC has no objection to US stations passing disaster-related traffic to and from stations in the affected areas if the administrations responsible for the Amateur Service in those countries do not object to their amateur stations receiving messages from our amateur stations on behalf of third parties."
The American Red Cross is not able to accept small, individual donations or collections of items for this crisis. Financial support is the best form of assistance those wishing to help can provide.
You can help those affected by this crisis and countless others around the world each year by making a financial gift to the American Red Cross International Response Fund, which will provide immediate relief and long-term support through supplies, technical assistance, and other support to those in need. Call 1-800-HELP NOW or 1-800-257-7575 (Spanish). Contributions to the International Response Fund may be sent to your local American Red Cross chapter or to the American Red Cross International Response Fund, P.O. Box 37243, Washington, DC 20013. Internet users can make a secure online contribution by visiting www.redcross.org.
Via ARRL - All U. S. Hams Are Approved to Send Emergency Third Party Traffic to the Disaster Area - Canadian Hams - Approval Pending as of 2130 PST - 12/28/04
7.050 (EM Net); 7.060; 7.090
21.240 - Best Propagation
14.160; 14.190; 14.195; 14. 200; 14.265
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by KG4LMU on December 28, 2004
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VU2MYH/VU4MYH, has established a station on Car Nicobar Island, one of the worst hit areas that had been totally cut off. Traffic has been noted on 14.190, 14.195 and 14.200 MHz. Raman has been operating at low power to avoid interfering with a nearby army communication site.
Majumdar says the VU4MYH station marks the very first Amateur Radio operation from Nicobar Island. "Mohan's signals were extremely weak, and he was in the skip zone of the Andaman stations on 20 meters," he said. "Improvisation was the name of the game. Hams had to switch to good old CW and switch frequencies from 14.190 and 14.160 MHz to 7.090 MHz." He said in the afternoon, signals were best on 15 meters (21.240 MHz) between the Andaman and Nicobar Islands stations.
Elsewhere, he reports, upward of three dozen stations on the Indian mainland are participating in an emergency net on 7.050 MHz. He said hams from South India have established stations in Tamil Nadu, the hardest hit area on the mainland where thousands died in fishing villages. Hams were handling both health-and-welfare and emergency and medical communications, he told ARRL.
The ARRL and IARU have been sharing information with other agencies and organization. Salvation Army Team Emergency Network (SATERN) National Director Pat McPherson, WW9E, reports Salvation Army personnel continue to offer emergency disaster services aid in southeastern Asia and costal India. "Salvation Army personnel are based in many of the devastated areas and have been on the forefront of offering aid and relief to the people struggling after this unexpected tragedy," he said. "Salvation Army volunteers fed more than 1200 people in the Kanyakumari and Muttom areas in India and many Salvation Army facilities are being used as feeding sites and emergency shelters in affected communitiesSalvation Army Emergency Disaster Services teams are also assisting government and other agencies in assessing needs and trying to find ways to meet them. The Salvation Army's International Emergency Disasters Services Office located in London is coordinating the relief operation.
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by KG4LMU on December 28, 2004
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Update
Worldwide MARA has set up a webpage dedicated to the situation. The link is http://wa7wwm.home.comcast.net/
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by K4RAF on December 29, 2004
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What good is HF, traffic nets or even EchoLink (laughter) when there is no one on the other end?
It took less than 12 hours for hams to jump forward for credit in something that ham radio can do little to assist. I don't see many stateside hams being able to tolerate the stench of 4 day old bodies in 85 degree heat so they stay home & beat their breast on traffic nets!
A crying shame...
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by KG4LMU on December 29, 2004
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Some emergency communication between amateurs in the North Sumatra capital of Medan has been established with the Aceh provincial capital of Banda Aceh on 80 meters and with the east coast city of Lhokseumawe through a linked VHF repeater.
Purwinto says YB6ZZ or YB6ZES are serving as net control stations of a national emergency net using 7.055 and 21.300 MHz as well as several linked VHF repeaters throughout northern Sumatra and along the west coast of Malaysia. He reports Anto, YD6AT, is standing by on 3.815 MHz in Banda Aceh. He reports several cities in coastal areas of Sumatra experienced power, telecommunication and water outages.
The Wireless Institute of Australia has asked its members to monitor HF frequencies and report any requests for assistance.
AMSAT-NA has offered to put its Echo (AO-51) satellite into 9k6 bps store and forward mode if it will assist in emergency communication. "We can put the satellite in that mode for however long it would be needed," said Mike Kingery, KE4AZN, of the Echo Command TeamMany radio amateurs on the Indian mainland are said to be pitching in to handle emergency and health-and-welfare traffic. Some communication has been on CW and PSK31 to overcome poor conditions and interference.
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by N0OFG on December 29, 2004
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KG4LMU wrote:
>The American Red Cross is not able to accept small, >individual donations or collections of items for this >crisis. Financial support is the best form of >assistance those wishing to help can provide.
The American Red Cross never wants anything but your money. The recent disasters in FL and in South Asia are nothing more than fundraisers for them. The local chapters usually have good people working there, but their National leaders are nothing more than vultures.
If you belong to an ARES group then the work you do is donation enough IMHO. Give to the Salvation Army.
N0OFG
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by K4RAF on December 29, 2004
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"The American Red Cross never wants anything but your money."
Because it is far easier to just order a plane load of supplies than to sort through canned food & old clothes, then palletize it for shipment.
It is called fluid resources. They only have to handle the freight once, unloading it.
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by ATRACUS on December 30, 2004
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Hi, I am not a Ham, nor do I know much about it, but I do know that its the most effective emergency communication network.
I need to know how I can locate a person missing in the Andaman islands of India, via the Ham network. I do not have any radio communication set, nor do I know anyone personally, who has one. I am reachable only by Phone or email.
Can someone help me out here, please?
Thanks
Atracus
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by N4GI on December 30, 2004
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>>> I am reachable only by Phone or email.
Can someone help me out here, please? <<<
I would be happy to do so, if I knew who you were, or how to contact you.
I can be reached via email at:
n4gi@tampabay.rr.com
Blake N4GI
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by KG4LMU on December 30, 2004
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Inquiries Jam Tsunami-Related Heath & Welfare Traffic (Dec 30, 2004) -- NEWINGTON, CT, -- Charly Harpole, K4VUD, reports from Bangkok, Thailand that incoming health and welfare queries to the huge affected area is presenting a huge problem. All channels, including ham radio, are or will be totally overwhelmed by potential incoming H&W traffic. He urges that no incoming H&W traffic be handled. For something this size, he says, it is best for those in the area to send messages out only. But even getting messages out is rather unlikely inside the areas that have been devastated, and there are many such areas. Requests for information about relatives and friends in the affected areas are jamming up the already overloaded hams. Harpole says: "This widespread disaster would require hundreds if not thousands of hams deployed over the whole Indian Ocean rim to meet the H&W need." Hams who already live in the affected areas are on the air and doing their best to help
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by N0YM on January 3, 2005
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>What good is HF, traffic nets or even EchoLink
>(laughter) when there is no one on the other end?
>It took less than 12 hours for hams to jump forward
>for credit in something that ham radio can do little
>to assist. I don't see many stateside hams being able
>to tolerate the stench of 4 day old bodies in 85
>degree heat so they stay home & beat their breast on
>traffic nets!
>A crying shame...
It would appear that a couple of hams in the area did indeed "jump forward" to help, and made a difference. Why RAF would feel they, and other hams who help to pass traffic, don't deserve credit for this is beyond me (as he's made clear in this and other threads on the tsunami). The scale of this disaster is unprecedented, and it's not surprising that people and systems would be overwhelmed. All resources in the area have been, by all accounts.
For some, it is important to help people when the chance and need arise. For others, I guess it's important to tear the helpers down, or take advantage of any opportunity to irrationally and inappropriately rail against a pet peeve. To each their own.
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by VA3QR on January 3, 2005
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To those concerned,
The Radio Amateurs of Canada website (www.rac.ca) had told Canadian Hams that the third party restrictions have been lifted to the affected countries in the wake of the current crisis as detailed in the Final Acts of WRC-03. I believe that the FCC has done the same in the US via the FCC, but I'm not sure.
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by KF4VGX on January 4, 2005
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Quote " N0YM "
For some, it is important to help people when the chance and need arise. For others, I guess it's important to tear the helpers down, or take advantage of any opportunity to irrationally and inappropriately rail against a pet peeve. To each their own.
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To EACH their own. !
Here ! Here ! ;-> .
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by VE6KLJ on January 5, 2005
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From RAC:
In the wake of the Tsunami/Earthquake Disaster, in response to
questions from Canadian radio amateurs, Industry Canada has
advised RAC as follows:
Canada has no objections to its licensed radio amateurs passing
international communications on behalf of third parties in support of an
emergency or disaster relief in the countries affected by the recent
tsunami and earthquake, provided that the affected country allows its
radio amateurs to carry on such a communication.
This is in keeping with the recent "FINAL ACTS WRC-03 WORLD
RADIOCOMMUNICATION CONFERENCE (GENEVA, 2003)" where
paragraph 25.3 (2) states that "Amateur stations may be used for
transmitting international communications on behalf of third parties
only in case of emergencies or disaster relief. An administration may
determine the applicability of this provision to amateur stations under
its jurisdiction."
Under normal circumstances, Canadian radio amateurs must respect
the third-party agreements and arrangements noted in Industry
Canada's Radiocommunication Information Circular RIC-3 - Issue 2,
dated April 2002. Canada has concluded agreements or arrangements
with the following countries to permit the transmission and reception of
international communications by Canadian amateurs on behalf of third
parties: Antigua and Barbuda, Australia, Bolivia, Chile, Colombia,
Costa Rica, Dominica, Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Grenada,
Guatemala, Guyana, Haiti, Honduras, Israel, Jamaica, Mexico,
Nicaragua, Paraguay, Peru, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines,
Trinidad and Tobago, United States of America, Uruguay, and
Venezuela. Under normal circumstances radio amateurs in
Canada are obliged to respect these agreements.
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by W7AIT on January 5, 2005
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If HAM radio and the ARRL is supposed to be a "service", especially during emergencies, why aren't many hams working this disaster? Why is the ARRL site only giving this "lip service"?
I'm sitting here with a fully functional portable emergency station, HF to UHF, battery powered, and nowhere to use it.
The absence of emergency nets, health and welfare nets etc and hiding behind some "third party" rules is a cop out and sad day for Amateur Radio.
I remeber as a SWL during the 1964 Alaskan earthquake, stations being on for hours, days weeks and months.
How the world has changed.
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by W7WV on January 6, 2005
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Interesting, although I was not a ham myself at the time, a friend was and his club conducted emergency traffic out of Alaska in 1964.
They let me help with a station, license or not. The people needed help.
I guess the control operator clause was satisfied.
Seems some things have changed.
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