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Author Topic: My New Baofeng UV-B5 can not bring up repeaters needing PL 162.2 (anyone else?)  (Read 4336 times)
KG5JOA
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« on: November 17, 2016, 09:30:47 AM »


Hello,

I just bought a new Baofeng UV-B5 (same as a UV-B6 except for the LED flashlight) and I am having a problem with it. I can bring up all the repeaters I have tried EXCEPT for the two local repeaters that use PL tone 162.2 on their input. My other HT's (different models) can bring up those same local repeaters fine with one watt. I tried the "compander" on and off and an external antenna with no difference. I have done a factory reset with no change. I know there is an issue with these radios when using receive Tone Squelch of 118.8, but I can not find any mention on the web of the issue I am having. I do like the radio a lot, so I would like to get a replacement radio unless it turns out that they all have this issue.

Anyone else know about this problem, or have a repeater using input PL 162.2 that they can try?

Thanks,
Lorrin
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SOFAR
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« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2016, 10:23:19 AM »

You don't mention if you've tried other tones, on different repeaters.

Here are the programming steps.

http://www.miklor.com/COM/UV_ProgMem.php
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KG5JOA
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« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2016, 10:35:42 AM »


Sorry,

Yes, I have tried several other repeaters, and they all work fine when the repeater input PL is 100 hertz or less.
I have also tried transmitting simplex from the UV-B5 to another radio only a few feet away using a transmit tone of 162.2 hertz and a receive Tone squelch of 162.2 hertz on the other radio. This works, but I have not tested more than a few feet away.
Since there is a known receive squelch issue with 118.8 hertz with this radio (with a work around solution), I was wondering if this is another issue that all the radios of this model might have. If so, then there is no point in my requesting a replacement radio of the same model.

Thanks for any help.
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« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2016, 03:07:03 PM »

I'd first contact the manufacturer and explain the issue, to see if it is a known common problem.  They might have a fix that can be done by users.
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« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2016, 12:25:20 AM »

Early models couldn't hit a system on 131.8 ... and I could see the repeater. A common problem a couple years ago with Baofeng HTs. Many hams just let it slide, because "It's a great rig for the price."

Personally, it was worthless to me not being able to properly emit a tone properly.

Return it to your dealer immediately for a refund or replacement.
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Clint Bradford, K6LCS
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KG5JOA
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« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2016, 01:13:34 PM »


Fixed!

I tried disabling the "save" function (battery save) and the tone problems vanished! Evidently the firmware has a an issue issuing some tones correctly when the processor is powered off and on for power saving. Tried several repeaters I couldn't hit before, and everything is working.

Thanks for your advice.

Lorrin
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« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2016, 01:32:43 PM »


Fixed!

I tried disabling the "save" function (battery save) and the tone problems vanished! Evidently the firmware has a an issue issuing some tones correctly when the processor is powered off and on for power saving. Tried several repeaters I couldn't hit before, and everything is working.

Thanks for your advice.

Lorrin


You should contact the Miklor site http://miklor.com/ and tell them about this bug.
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« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2016, 02:26:08 PM »


>> You should contact the Miklor site http://miklor.com/ and tell them about this bug.

I actually tried, and I a a follower of miklor.com, but I can't see any way to contact anyone from the web site...
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« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2016, 11:17:32 PM »

>> ... [disabling Battery Save cured a CTCSS problem] ...

Is that a radio you really want to spend any more time with?

Is sacrificing a feature that doubles your battery life just to make it work as it SHOULD is
OK for you ... To me, it would have been returned to the dealer already.

Bizarre ... and a testimony to quality control of the manufacturer.

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KG5JOA
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« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2016, 09:21:45 AM »

I usually will carry this radio while hiking and sending APRS info using Mobilinkd. APRS requires that the battery "save" function be disabled anyway. So far, this radio seems to me to be the easiest to program in the field of any I have tried as well as being small and ergonomic.

That brings up a question I have had: Which dual band HT radio from the "Big Three" is considered the easiest to program by hand?

I use Chirp and RT Software, but I want to be able to change settings or be able to input a new repeater if I need help in the back country. I have the repeater database in my phone that uses my GPS coordinates to tell me the settings for the closest repeater, etc.

Thanks for you help,
Lorrin
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« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2016, 10:10:46 AM »

I usually will carry this radio while hiking and sending APRS info using Mobilinkd. APRS requires that the battery "save" function be disabled anyway.

I suggest getting an AA Alkaline battery pack for the radio if you are out hiking in the field.
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« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2016, 10:29:17 AM »


That brings up a question I have had: Which dual band HT radio from the "Big Three" is considered the easiest to program by hand?


They all seem easy, after reading and understanding the instructions. Usually set parameters in VFO mode, press 2 or 3 buttons to enter it into memory.

Different does not mean more difficult.
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« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2016, 09:23:11 PM »

Easiest to program 2m/440 HT? Look at the cheat sheet - er, I mean "Quick Programming Guide" - for the Yaesu FT-60R on the DOCS page at http://www.k6lcs.com --- I digested the 84-page manual to less than a half-page ...
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« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2016, 04:10:25 PM »

CHECK OFFSET - or +
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KG5JOA
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« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2016, 05:52:58 PM »


Thanks, I checked all settings multiple times.

If I disable the "Save" (battery saver" function, everything works without changing any other settings.

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