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Author Topic: Venturing into 2m SSB territory.  (Read 11129 times)
HAMFESTS
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« Reply #30 on: August 22, 2017, 11:29:45 AM »

Hi Neal,

You could go to http://www.rigpix.com/

Then click on the Yaesu, Kenwood, or Icom links and scroll down to see what was made.

Current rigs are some of what you mentioned, TS2000, FT991A, and the Icom 9100. Mobile ones are Icom 7100, Yaesu FT857. The mobile rigs are basic but don't have the performance of the larger more expensive radios.

Older rigs are the FT847, Icom 706 MKIIG, and others. I won't give ratings on any of these, you can look at the reviews section or any comments from other hams.

The TS2000 and IC9100 have 1.2G options.

73
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« Reply #31 on: August 23, 2017, 06:15:16 AM »

Hi Neal,

You could go to http://www.rigpix.com/

Then click on the Yaesu, Kenwood, or Icom links and scroll down to see what was made.

Current rigs are some of what you mentioned, TS2000, FT991A, and the Icom 9100. Mobile ones are Icom 7100, Yaesu FT857. The mobile rigs are basic but don't have the performance of the larger more expensive radios.

Older rigs are the FT847, Icom 706 MKIIG, and others. I won't give ratings on any of these, you can look at the reviews section or any comments from other hams.

The TS2000 and IC9100 have 1.2G options.

73

The 2000 is a 18 year old design and I would not spend much money on one as even new ones are same as old ones and not best radios for serious VHF/UHF SSB. I would use a current recently released model if you are serious.
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« Reply #32 on: August 23, 2017, 09:42:22 AM »

There was a time when 2m SSB must have been all the rage. eBay still has a flurry of old 2m SSB radios, some portable, the list is fairly long. Why this has changed, I don't know. It is certainly regrettable. People prefer to rely on repeaters, which is fine only if you don't practice radio for emergency or prepping purposes. I really like my IC-251, but for portable operations, I might get the MFJ-9402. I wish there still were rigs like the FT-290R and IC-202 with built-in telescopic antennas.

Gil.
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« Reply #33 on: August 23, 2017, 10:45:09 AM »

There was a time when 2m SSB must have been all the rage. eBay still has a flurry of old 2m SSB radios, some portable, the list is fairly long. Why this has changed, I don't know. It is certainly regrettable. People prefer to rely on repeaters, which is fine only if you don't practice radio for emergency or prepping purposes. I really like my IC-251, but for portable operations, I might get the MFJ-9402. I wish there still were rigs like the FT-290R and IC-202 with built-in telescopic antennas.

Gil.
  Good point!  2 meter AM was also the rage once!  I think there would be a lot more activity on 2 meter SSB (or even AM) if manufacturers just included those modes in FM mobile rigs.
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« Reply #34 on: August 23, 2017, 01:40:26 PM »

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2 meter AM was also the rage once!

I even think they should remake the Gonset Communicator!

Gil.
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« Reply #35 on: August 23, 2017, 07:13:21 PM »

So after 3 pages with this thread, it seems like the only serious suggestion is
the Icom 9100, but to stay away from the 18 year old design of the Kenwood TS-2000?
The feedback is that the Icom 9100 is a more recent design/technology, includes USB port
for control/digital/sound-card, but the Kenwood TS-2000 is an ancient design, lacks USB port
or sound card, and therefore is not worth the money?

Any comments on how the Yaesu FT-991A stacks up for all mode use against the above?

Are there any current users of VHF/UHF SSB that want to comment?

Cheers,

Neal
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« Reply #36 on: August 24, 2017, 03:25:51 AM »

Hello,

You can find much cheaper used rigs online. The MFJ-9402 works great. No need to spend more than $300. Radios that have VHF SSB on top of all the other bands usually aren't as good as dedicated 2m all mode transceivers. I paid $200 for my IC-251 and it is an awesome radio.

Gil.
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« Reply #37 on: September 20, 2017, 09:41:23 AM »

I'm not a fan of the TS2000 even though it's an older rig Jeff, K1TEO has managed 1st place SOHP wins in almost every ARRL VHF contest since the year 2000. Jeff uses a pair of these rigs. As with most VHF, VHF/UHF or HF/VHF/UHF combo rigs they are only as good as the antenna(s), low loss cables (hardline), LNA's and amplifiers hooked up to the RF connector on the rear of the radio.
SDR's w/ transverters seem to be the present day top of the line rigs, but they are only as good as the system components such as the antenna and support systems mentioned above.
Using either example I've given with a poor antenna and you'll get poor performance.
YMMV,
Bill AA2UK
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HAMFESTS
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« Reply #38 on: September 21, 2017, 12:23:16 PM »

All valid points brought up.

AK4YH, the IC-251 is a beautiful radio.

It will be interesting to see what the future holds with Icom's IC-9700.

The only thing that might be a sure thing is that it will be expensive. (I hope I'm wrong)

Neal,
Depending on your interest and funds older radios can be good sources for cheaper alternatives to the newer technology. The newer radios offer newer tech and more features. Evaluate your needs and then go for it. Good luck.

73
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« Reply #39 on: September 21, 2017, 02:58:21 PM »

All good things to ponder. Here's one I thought of today.....
The 9700 is a higher frequency clone of the successful 7300. I have one and it's a great radio.

Now, picture a VHF/UHF clone to match the highly anticipated 7610. I have a 7610 on pre-order and would buy a higher frequency companion to it in a heartbeat. That way, I could sell my 271/471 radios.

ron
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« Reply #40 on: September 22, 2017, 05:46:13 PM »

All good things to ponder. Here's one I thought of today.....
The 9700 is a higher frequency clone of the successful 7300. I have one and it's a great radio.

Now, picture a VHF/UHF clone to match the highly anticipated 7610. I have a 7610 on pre-order and would buy a higher frequency companion to it in a heartbeat. That way, I could sell my 271/471 radios.

ron
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Ron, the 7610 and 9700 look like really nice rigs
Bill, AA2UK
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« Reply #41 on: September 25, 2017, 03:23:24 PM »

I use a IC-551 with a 100 watt amp and 11 element beam at 70' and have a ball on 2. I did add CTSS to it so I can work a friends repeater about 180 miles away but it is primarily a FM simplex or SSB rig and does a great job.
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« Reply #42 on: September 26, 2017, 12:10:58 AM »

Hi, where did you inject the tone?

Gil.
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WA8UEG
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« Reply #43 on: September 26, 2017, 05:31:10 AM »

Gill,

I will pull the schematic then copy and post, it's been a few years and I forget but am sure I marked it on the schematic. I ran the wires to a miniature connector and purchased a PIEXX digital encoder and just plug it in. Works perfect and the PIEXX encoder is small, simple to use and has it's own case, I think it was around $70.00.

I'm traveling but will be back later tonight and will post the info.
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« Reply #44 on: September 26, 2017, 10:36:17 AM »

Gill,

I did not mark up the schematic but do have detailed instructions, I have posted the instructions and a picture of the rig with the PL attached on the following link. You can enlarge the writing to make it easy to read.

http://wa8ueg.wixsite.com/pictures
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