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Author Topic: HOA = BS  (Read 5981 times)
K8AC
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« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2017, 04:50:02 AM »

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Bottom line?
#1 DON'T move into a HOA.

Sorry, but as I recently learned even that doesn't protect you.  I lived in  a small development here in the NC mountains and chose it because there was no HOA.  We did have a "road maintenance" association that cleared the roads in the winter and maintained the pavement.  We built a new home in a nearby area and here's what happened in the development with no HOA: A small group of residents formed their own HOA.  These were all people from Florida who decided they needed to protect their property values as they did in Florida - they needed an HOA.  After years of legal wrangling and spending tons of money, they got a judge to rule that everyone in the development would have the HOA imposed on them and all deeds were modified by the court make it legally binding.   Now the HOA rules the entire development, enforcing new rules created by the Floridians.  So, it you're in a development without an HOA, you really aren't safe (at least in NC).
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ND6M
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« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2017, 09:42:49 AM »

....  After years of legal wrangling and spending tons of money, they got a judge to rule that everyone in the development would have the HOA imposed on them and all deeds were modified by the court make it legally binding...

That is EXACTLY what is wrong with the arrl proposed law,.............. only the "winners" and "losers" are reversed.
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N2EY
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« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2017, 10:18:24 AM »

I just saw an article on MSN where a Viet Nam Vet (I am one also), was ordered by his HOA to remove an American Flag wrap from his mailbox. WTF?Huh


Some stories on this situation:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/03/us-navy-veteran-ordered-to-remove-american-flag-wrap-from-mailbox.html

https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/veteran-american-flag-wrap-mailbox/

https://eaglerising.com/46104/hoa-demands-us-navy-veteran-remove-american-flag-wrap-from-mailbox/

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/08/07/us-navy-veteran-ordered-to-remove-american-flag-wrap-from-mailbox/23069170/

The HOA claimed that the wrap "was not in consonance with the aesthetic values of Southwood."

The owner said it had been in place for 4 years.

Now.....IMHO.......Old Glory should not be used as a mailbox wrap. It's poor flag etiquette, IMHO. There are proper ways to display the Flag, and being a 82 years old or a USN veteran does not change them.

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From what I read, the HOA never cited proper Flag etiquette in their demand that he remove it. They just decided, arbitrarily, after 4 years, that it wasn't OK.

Now the best part:

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/08/08/veteran-wins-hoa-dispute-over-american-flag-decoration/

The HOA gave up and the flag wrap stays.

73 de Jim, N2EY
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K0UA
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« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2017, 02:38:46 PM »

HOA=Un American attitude.   Freedom!
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WA7PRC
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« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2017, 03:32:43 PM »

[yuuge snip]
Now.....IMHO.......Old Glory should not be used as a mailbox wrap. It's poor flag etiquette, IMHO. There are proper ways to display the Flag, and being a 82 years old or a USN veteran does not change them.
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At every turn, I see LOTS of poor flag etiquette, inside and outside of HOAs. In regard to the above, http://www.usflag.org/flagetiquette.html is a good reference:
          "The flag should not be used as a drapery, or for covering a speakers desk, draping a platform, or for any decoration in general."

But, lots of people use it to proclaim their patriotism and virtuosity using bold displays... they wrap themselves in Old Glory. The rest of us quietly fly the flag appropriately.

“As far as I'm concerned, I prefer silent vice to ostentatious virtue.”
-A. Einstein
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KN6SD
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« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2017, 09:34:19 AM »

PRC don't you have a SOCK to play with???

 Grin
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KN6SD
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« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2017, 09:36:07 AM »

I have sent the follow message to my US Senator, I urge all Amateurs to do the same:

Dear Senator Feinstein,

Thank you for taking the time to respond to my letter(s). Unfortunately the current version of the Amateur Radio Parity Act is full of Vague language that I cannot support. The Language from the 2015/2016 Legislative Session was clear and required Homeowners Associations (a.k.a. Community Associations) to follow the same Federal guidelines that the local zoning authority must follow when permitting amateur radio antenna installations.
 
Amateur Radio Operators need relief from CC&R's and Homeowners Associations that are being used as tools to circumvent Government Regulation and oversight. Currently HR 555 and S 1534 as written do not provide the relief the amateur community needs.
 
Unless the Bill is Amended back to the 2015/2016 Language, I urge you to Vote NO when it is considered by the full US Senate.
 
Thank you for your time and attention to this matter.
 
Sincerely,
Russell W. Brill
KN6SD
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K1ZJH
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« Reply #22 on: October 21, 2017, 01:42:11 PM »

PRC don't you have a SOCK to play with???

 Grin

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