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Author Topic: Like VHF/UHF? Check out the new Icom IC-9700  (Read 34342 times)
G8YMW
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« Reply #30 on: October 07, 2017, 05:10:02 PM »

Hi Ed. Here in the USA, DXEngineering is already taking pre-orders. Initially, it was listed as
HF+6M, 2, 432, 1296.
They were quickly corrected.

73

ron
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Too bad it will not include HF and DSTAR.  It would have been a good replacement for the IC-9100.

Actually it WILL have D Star.
Personally I cannot see a need for HF +6 (and 4 this side of The Atlantic) on it when there is the 7300.
The 9100 is a 7600 and updated 910 in one box and for me, too expensive.
HOWEVER I am in the market for a 3rd generation 910 based on 7300 underpinnings
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« Reply #31 on: October 09, 2017, 05:17:43 AM »

I would prefer to have one radio with these features.  If the IC-9700 will not include HF+6, it would be nice to have C4FM and DMR in addition to DSTAR.  I know that will not happen because the because the designers of these modes will not license their to the other competing companies, so the user (us) gave to buy three radios if we want to work these modes.  It would be like buying 3 HF because one had SSB, one had AM, and the third had digital.  Hopefully these companies get together and license these modes to other companies.
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VE3WGO
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« Reply #32 on: October 09, 2017, 06:30:41 AM »

In the photos of the IC-9700 prototype, there are rear panel connectors for LAN, Data, and USB.  Of course, those might just be suggestions at this point since it is still early.

We can only hope that at least one of those ports will include a datastream for some kind of IF or baseband input/output data format that permits the owner to connect an external modem or processor for other modes (C4FM, DMR, etc) in addition to the ones Icom decides to include internally (the word-D-Star is printed below the touch screen).  Then the 9700 could become the central hub for an all-mode V/UHF and Satellite station.  And I guess transverters for other bands would need to go to the existing 3 band antenna connectors instead a low level signal interface, since no Transverter connector seems to be present on the prototype (although the new IC-7610 does include such a Transverter connector).

73, Ed VE3WGO
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« Reply #33 on: December 16, 2017, 04:47:02 PM »

I for one am glad to see someone finally produce a up to date VHF/UHF all mode rig.
I have had the ICOM 275, 475 and the 810.  I kick my self all the time for selling them, but life throws strange curves now and then.
To find an all mode VHF/UHF rig that is new and not a "SHACK IN A BOX" is pretty much non existent.  If it receives like the IC-275H does, and lacks some of the birdies that the 910 had/has they will have a winner.  Being I only have a FM only VUH/UHF rig, I will be keeping my eyes on this.  Will look nice with my 756 Pro.
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« Reply #34 on: December 17, 2017, 02:56:22 PM »

The all band rigs Ive listened to have high VHF/UHF phase noise making them useless for serious weak signal work. Im still using transverters with three TS-830's until that changes.

Carl
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N6YFM
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« Reply #35 on: December 18, 2017, 03:56:20 PM »

The all band rigs Ive listened to have high VHF/UHF phase noise making them useless for serious weak signal work. Im still using transverters with three TS-830's until that changes.

Carl

Hi Carl:

I have not yet played with transverters.  Which brand/models do you like or use?

Thanks,

Neal
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« Reply #36 on: December 22, 2017, 09:44:34 PM »

Does anyone know the physical dimensions of the radio? From pictures it looks to be about the same size as the IC-7300.
Surprised to see some taking pre-orders. It took a 1 ½ years for the 7610 to go from the Tokoy fair to the market in the USA.
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G0OGS
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« Reply #37 on: December 23, 2017, 05:11:21 AM »

HI, It,s true to say its a prototype and may not go into production but I think it will, Icom are putting the toe in the water and generating the interest, they don't need to do much advertising all of us lot will do that for free. As the interest increases so will the price, we have to wait for that day and hope Kenwood or Yaesu pull their fingers out with a competitive response.

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Steve
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VE3WGO
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« Reply #38 on: December 23, 2017, 05:28:58 AM »

All there is known is from the Tokyo Ham Fair notes that were published.  The description said
"The concept model IC-9700 is the same size as the popular IC-7300, but covers the 144, 430, and 1200MHz bands. The transceiver operates on all the standard modes, as well as the DD mode on D-STAR. It has simultaneous two band reception, with some limitations, a touch-panel screen, satellite mode, and so on."

The link to to the notes document is in one of the earlier threads on the Ham Fair sometime in September I think.  I saved a copy but it's brief.

By way of comparison, the IC-9100 HF-1300 MHz radio also has simultaneous two band reception (for V/UHF) and an HF/6 Tuner in a box the same size as the IC-7410 HF/6, so I guess it's possible to do the 9700 in a 7300 box, since the 9700 has no HF and therefore also no tuner.  The 9100 puts out 100W on 144/430, and 10W on 1200 MHz and weighs only 4 pounds more with the 1200 MHz module in, than a 7410 does, so the V/UHF weight seems to be nominal.

Looking forward to the IC-9700 for mobile or portable, and field day, and all satellites, when/if it ends up hitting the market!  Openings, and repeater and satellite downlinks will be easier to see on the screen and the radio will be ready for QSOs in the right mode.  Is there such a thing as Gridquare skimmer software for V/UHF SDRs?

73, Ed VE3WGO
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« Reply #39 on: December 27, 2017, 02:09:43 PM »

My guess is the IC-9700 will be the exact same size as the IC-7300.  This is typical for ICOM.  Consider these same sized packages over the years:

IC-706, IC-706II, IC-706IIG
IC-756, IC-756Pro, IC-756Pro2, IC-756Pro3
IC-910, IC-9100
IC-7800, IC-7851

... and the list goes on.  Obviously using the same case dimensions and the same basic knob/button layout, then periodically upgrading the circuitry saves ICOM big bucks.
 
The IC-7300 and IC-9700 will make a nice matching pair of compact rigs and having a bandscope on 2/440 and 1.2g will be really nice! 

I'm also crossing my fingers the IC-9700 gets sold in the US and it has the full duplex Satellite Mode (although the "... with limitations" verbage bothers me a bit).  As for the 220 band, there's always transverters.  (By the way, Kuhne has a  Transverter Interface for the ICOM IC-7300.  Perhaps it will work on the IC-9700 for 220?)

If I can pick up a IC-9700 next year I'll be selling my FT-736R (2/220/440/1.2 & 1.2 ATV).
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« Reply #40 on: December 31, 2017, 05:30:31 AM »

Having a single platform for 2, 432 and 1296 for weak signal similar to the 7300 would be excellent.  Wanting to simplify and be portable for the next ten years.  I have two reservations.  Get it done Icom!

73, Mike W6DO.
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