I'd have never put on my Police Uniform everyday if I was paralyzed by liability. Poop occurs.
73's John KF7VXA
Your employer and their insurance would of covered any legal liable action, to include an error, that would of occurred during the time of your employment. Apples and oranges comparison.
Not if I did something outside of the scope of my authority or made a bad or even minor mistake. The officer is just added to the list of all to sue.
It happens more than you would think. Anyone can be sued for anything. Just because you have a badge and creds, does not mean you will not get sued. If you are in any way in the wrong, City, County or the Government will put you out as the sacrificial lamb to save their own butts. They may try to cover you if they can, but at the first sight of blood, your on your own. Of course, today they just lie and cover up the best they can.
As to ordering 1000 needles vs. 10,000 needles, I'll keep all messages and be sure I get a correct conformation as well as the name and ID of the person the message was sent to and came from. It's called covering your butt.
In the big cities, it's true, the storm troopers (I don't like what LE, H.S. has turned into anymore, not what it was in my day, this is not to include all LEO's. Many are there for the right reason) don't want anyone without a badge, it's them against you. In smaller, rural communities, we are pretty much on our own, if we don't help each other, no one else will until it's too late.
There is a sense of community in rural areas that people who have lived in cities will never know of, it's not just your neighborhood, it's the entire community.
We do for each other. In many cases, you need a new septic system, a neighbor with a backhoe will come and dig and help you put it. When they need something, you are there for them. It's not even barter, the amount of work involved does not ever come into the picture. Not true with many of the move in's who want Idaho beauty to be Kalifornia. We are also much more self sufficient than most in urban and cities, we have to be.
There was one lawsuit here involving SAR (all volunteer). We are close to a small part of WY. that is only assessable thru our county in Idaho. A skier at a ski hill in WY. went out of bounds, got lost, walked thru a river several times and turned himself into a human ice cube. Our SAR team was called and looked till it was dark, in WY, not Idaho where they are based. WY. was notified and said to pull off, they would look for him in the AM, they never bothered to come out that day. They found him dead , hours later the next day. Both counties were sued by the family, but not one SAR member was included in the suit. He was dead the first day and within hours (or less) of him getting wet, not the next day. He was in the wrong, but the counties got sued anyway. I don't know what the settlement was, if any.
All that said, I'll continue to be a part of the local Ares/Races group, all good people, no cowboys, no save the world types. If someone manages to sue me, I'll BK them unless I really did cause the thing I got sued for, then I'll take responsibility. I don't have much, a little fish, hardly worth the effort of a bottom feeder, they want the big bucks the Gov agencys, counties have.
Our Government, courts and liberal ideas have turned this county into a big poop hole, we've lost what was great about America. I won't lay down for them. Neither will all the people who still respect the principals this country was founded on. Yea, I guess I'm a red neck; a proud one.
To me, all of this is no different that the person who watches another get mugged and just turns away. Unless you are old or unable to help, your just a part of the new world thinking if you don't help. I've been hit, punched, shot at and tore up many times (So. Ca. PD). If I see you in need of help, I'll be there. We are all being conditioned to call a cop, let the Government do it, run and hide, duck and cover, don't get involved, be Sheepeople, B.S. Do as you wish. My Lord died on the cross to save me, I'll do the best I can to help others within the scope of my authority, and just maybe outside of it to save a life. No. I'm not a save the world type person, but I will do my part when and where I can. When operating in an Ares/Races capacity, I'm there for support of those with the badges and creds. I know the limits, I knew the limits as an LEO.
When operating as a volunteer of Ares/Races, I am covered by Work Comp in my county if injured. If I screw up and get sued, I'm on my own. One has to use the brain that God gave you.
Look at all the Military who have given their lives so you and I can live in what was once a free country, and your worried about being sued when lives are at stake. Everyone has to make up their own mind. If you don't want to be a part of Ares/Races because of fear of being sued, someone else will take your place.
We mostly do public service, but emergency's happen at public events. I just did a marathon, no bombs went off, but they did in Boston. Volunteers with coms rose to the occasion there and will continue to do so if and when the need arises.
The Government has been MIA in more than a few big disasters for days. Hams were the only one's with communications for days.
There is a need for what we do. If your worry about liability, then maybe you should stick to rag chewing and DX, me and thousands of others will pick up the slack.
If the ARRL wants out, fine, get the heck out. There will still be community groups in many areas, I know there will be where I live.