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Author Topic: How To Fight Back Against Scammers!  (Read 15665 times)
AD6KA
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« on: April 10, 2011, 09:42:46 PM »

This morning I received an unsolicited email from and “alleged” UK ham trying to sell me
a “Brand New” “Collins Rockwell LPF Filter”:. My surname left off (like it matters, haha).
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Hello Kenneth  

I have for sale a ROCKWELL COLLINS HF-380 AUDIO LOW PASS FILTER BOARD
646-5802-001 BRAND NEW. THIS IS IN GREAT CONDITION.. THIS HAS THE
PRODUCT ACCEPTANCE TAG

£100 for it shipped to your doorstep.
So,kindly advise your complete shipping address if its your taste.It
would be needed to work out shipment ...My preferred mode of payment is
via Western Union..

Thanks and wait to read back from you..
GD1MIP
Andy Morgan
Thal'loo Glass
Mwyljyn moddey, IM7 4AQ
Isle of Man
UK.
OK, the callsign and name check out, but the email address listed for Andy Morgan
GD1MIP at QRZ DOES NOT!
THIS email came from  andymgd1mip@gmail.com

I of course emailed the REAL GD1MIP and asked him about this, if it was real. Western Union? Product Acceptance Tag? Seems fishy to me! NO answer from the REAL GD1MIP as yet……I think his callsign and info has been hijacked, as you’ll see .
Poor guy....and some no good Nigerian is dragging his call & name through the mud! That pisses me off!!!

Gmail blocks most IP Header traces, but I was able to get part of the IP address sent to me as 209.85.215.193. IF YOU GOOGLE THIS IP ADDRESS: 209.85.215.193 YOU WILL SEE THAT IT HAS BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH SCAMS IN THE PAST!

Also 209.85.xxxxxxxx is NOT a U.K. IP Address!

Note: With a Free 30 Day trial of ReadNotify Software you CAN trace the location of virtually ANY IP Address, including Gmail, and tell each and every time it was opened, to what I.P. it was forwarded, and what times and for how long THAT person opened it.
Unfortunately my version of this useful siftware has expired and I don't want to pay for it....

So I replied to that Gmail account pretending I was interested:
Me to him:
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Andy, I am VERY interested in this Rockwell unit.
 Does this Low Pass Filter come with the Heisenberg Demodulator? If so, it is much more valuable!!
I Need to see a photo of the unit before I can send you money.
73, Ken

Him to me:

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Ken:
Yes itt does come with the Heisenberg Demodulator but i am sorry i
can't provide photos.
 Mails kept on returning back to me as i intend
sending photo of the LPF.
The LPF Board is as described earlier on and
i can re-imburse you if it happens not to be your taste upon delivery.

The £100 am asking is equal to US$160,so do get back to me with your
shipping address if you wish to make purchase and i will email my
details for Western Union Payment.


Thanks for the swift response.Got your name via your call sign on
 QRZed.The tag on it when i purchased it is what i meant Your complete
 shipping address would be needed to work out shipment and i will email
you my details for payment once i hear from you.
 Thanks.
  Andy.

 My phone number is +447024025311

MY EDIT: PLEASE NOTE: THE “702” AFTER THE UK COUNTRY CALLING CODE OF +044 IS
 A CELL PHONE REDIRECT TO WEST AFRICA!!


NOTE:"Post Restructuring" Licensees: There is NO SUCH THING as a Heisenburg Demodulator!


Me back to him
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Hi Andy:
 
There is no way that any photos you send should be "bouncing"
back to you.  Perhaps you can post them on the internet at a free file hosting
site such at "Putfile" or one of the many others of that type. Then
send me the URL and I will take a look at them. How's that sound?
 
I'm sorry, but we cannot make or receive any International phone calls.
We have been placed on a Restricted Phone Access by the phone company because my IDIOT teenage son ran up a $12,342.00 phone bills by calling "Dial-for-Pornographic Phone Services." (I STILL can't believe he did that!!!! Kids! Therefore we can only dial LOCAL phone calls and dial 911 for Emergency Services. Sorry about that.

 
Again, I am very, VERY interested in buying this Collins
LPF for my 380.

But since I am a disabled veteran in a wheelchair, and no credit card,
(Because I MAXED then out paying off my son's phone bills!) I can't go to OR CALL Western Union!
SINCE I am without access to a CAR, is there any way that you can provide
a Bank Account to which I can Wire Transfer the money by phone?

This I can do through a phone call to my banker, I have done this before
since they took away all my credit cards after the phone fiasco with my teenage son.
 
Thanks for helping me get this VERY needed part for my Collins!
I have been looking for this part for YEARS!
 
73, Ken

MAYBE I CAN GET A REAL BANK ACCOUNT NUMBER OUT OF THIS GUY AND HAVE HIS BANK ACCOUNT SHUT DOWN
THINK I CAN DO IT?Huh??
Fight Scams with Scam!!
« Last Edit: April 10, 2011, 11:56:25 PM by AD6KA » Logged
WB2WIK
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« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2011, 01:44:39 PM »

That's pretty funny.

If you get the filter, I'm interested in the Heisenberg Demodulator, assuming you'll sell it separately. Tongue

If not, then possibly you have a Hindenburg Flash unit?  They're explosively popular.
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AD6KA
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« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2011, 08:17:22 PM »

On the bright side.......

The REAL Andy, GD1MIP has posted a warning
message on his QRZ web page:


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Warning. I have been the victim of an attempted scam.
If I try to buy or sell equipment to/ from you please be certain its me.
I do not use the email [mailto:andymgd1mip@gmail.com]
Please be careful folks.

73, Ken   AD6KA
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“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”
-Edmund Burke, 1729-1797
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AK4QA
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« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2011, 08:01:52 AM »

Very interesting, you pass yourself off as a disabled vet in a wheelchair (stolen valor) and think all "Post Restructuring" Licensees hams are idiots.

It does not surprise me that you are wasting your time (and ours) on something that should have gone in the spam trash.

Lee
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AD6KA
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« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2011, 11:51:44 AM »

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you pass yourself off as a disabled vet in a wheelchair (stolen valor)

Only to a scammer who has hijacked a legit ham's callsign,  pea brain!

I have used that "diabled" modality many times in the past to bypass their
"You MUST PAY with Western Union" mantra, and it has worked.
And I will continue to use it!
  I have had 12 international bank
accounts killed over the years using this and other methods.

When you fight the dirty, ya gotta get dirty!

Sorry you took offense over the restructuring remark.

To you that email was "spam". OK, I get that, To me it's another example how
the West African 419 fraudsters, hiding behind UK callsigns, UK GMails,
and cell phone forwarding have discovered our hobby and it's potential for lucrative
scamming in this poor global economy. Instead of weaving elaborate schemes about "Trunk
Boxes full of millions in cash in Security Companies" in Ghana, or selling "Gold Dust from Ivory Coast
selling at ridiculous  deep discount, they are going for the quick, easy kills.
of "parts wanted" posts and radios.

Delete them if you like, I fight back.

Some people say that if you're not part of the
solution, you're part of the problem.....

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AK4QA
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« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2011, 03:29:00 PM »

From the way you responded and the way you continue to act with the grade school name calling, it sounds like you are a real class act.

For the non-hams and new hams reading this thread; this is not typical behaver nor the way to act,
NO MATTER THE REASON!


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K0YQ
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« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2011, 07:50:48 AM »

Is the Heisenberg Demodulator in any way related to the functionality of a Gonkulator?
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GM0ULK
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« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2011, 01:03:17 AM »

Either way, the scammer is a criminal and deserves to get what is coming to him.  Does this mean we, as hams, can not fight these scammers? 

Well done AD6KA, I applaud your fight back and posting this important information.  If you want to waste the scammers time and money, then all the better.  Any info regarding forwarding numbers (207) and IP addresses is all good info. 

Keep the fight up against scammers.  I believe once you have enough info, send it to the appropriate authorities for forwarding action and put these scammers out of action.

Perhaps KE4VYN might be happy if he was scammed because nobody did anything???

  Steve....GM0ULK

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WB2WIK
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« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2011, 10:04:34 AM »

Is the Heisenberg Demodulator in any way related to the functionality of a Gonkulator?

I read a thesis on this once.

I believe the Gonkulator is a derivative of the Heisenberg system.  Read up on Divariable Beetleboppers and I think you'll find the connection.
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K1TCJ
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« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2011, 10:11:06 AM »


AD6KA writes:

> There is NO SUCH THING as a Heisenburg Demodulator!

Yeah, sure.  Next you'll try to convince us there's no such thing as a coax stretcher.


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AE4RV
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« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2011, 11:07:43 AM »

I thought Heisenberg made crystals.  <jk>
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WA0ZZG
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« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2011, 11:17:28 AM »

There's a group, in England, that specializes in keeping the West African 419 fraudsters busy.  That's all they want to do is make them waste time.  Their logic is if the law won't arrest them, we might as well have some fun with them.  It's turning into a form of sport.  There are some basic steps taken to protect yourself before starting.  Let us know how yours comes out.
Dave
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N2HBX
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« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2011, 10:36:33 AM »

The biggest problem with the Heisenburg Demodulators is that if they're too old, the flux capacitors dry out.

73,
Larry, N2HBX Cool
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N2HBX
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« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2011, 10:43:39 AM »

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you pass yourself off as a disabled vet in a wheelchair (stolen valor)

Yeah, I guess the same way cops passing themselves off as children in chat rooms to catch pedophiles is "stolen childhood".

73,
Larry, N2HBX
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« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2011, 08:33:11 AM »

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It does not surprise me that you are wasting your time (and ours) on something that should have gone in the spam trash.

Good going Ken.

I and my company usually just delete spam emails but occasionally we'll string one along. These scammers send millions of emails. If they got tens of thousands of answers to wade through, they'd be out of business.

By the way, Ken, we got a scam Relay Call a few days ago at work. I thought that method had died out a few year ago. (after scammers nearly destroyed that program designed to help the deaf).

Even amid The Great Recession, web fraud attempts against our company are down 50% in recent years. I think scam baiting has helped.
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