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Author Topic: ARE THERE STILL PLACES WHERE HAM LICENSES CAN BE BOUGHT W/O TEST  (Read 130886 times)
N0YXB
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« Reply #75 on: October 16, 2017, 07:04:13 AM »

More plankeye gibberish that's as incomprehensible as another well known troll's drunk posts. The resemblance is uncanny.
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ND6M
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« Reply #76 on: October 16, 2017, 07:39:11 AM »

THIS IS WD8T... edit...VECs have been selling licenses and handing them out to their good buddies for years and years...

PLANKEYE

...edit...I understand what he is saying ...

It's clear that neither of you understand the current and/or the previous licensing structure.

There has NEVER been a proven case anywhere of a VEC that violated the integrity of the VE licensing concept.

However, I can tell you for a FACT, that BEFORE the VEC was created, I was offered to be "signed off" for a ticket.
I turned the offer down,.................. Heck, I coulda been a WA8###.
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PLANKEYE
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« Reply #77 on: October 16, 2017, 04:58:42 PM »

M0HCN

Yea, the licenses are all pretty noddy, but they only form a starting point, setting some very minimal baseline to get on the bands, no big achievement there.

I do not understand the whole pride in having a license thing, pride in being a good operator with a clean station I can see, pride in DXCC or whatever I can see (not something I am interested in, but it is a broad church), pride in having built some neat engineering I can see, but pride in having passed an easy test and gotten a callsign, not so much.....

Regards, Dan.


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PLANKEYE

The above statement is not me.  This thread was not started by me but are there still places where ham licenses can be bought w/o test?  In the history of our beloved hobby has there EVER been such a thing? 
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K9MHZ
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« Reply #78 on: October 17, 2017, 09:32:11 AM »

You’re getting more strange with every post.
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N9AOP
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« Reply #79 on: October 17, 2017, 01:59:12 PM »

A few years back in Illinois, some Secretary of State (drivers license) offices were selling CDL licenses.  Eventually the head man and some underlings went to jail over this.  If something like this high level crime can happen than it is not hard to imagine that a low level crime like selling a ham radio license occasionally happens.
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K9MHZ
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« Reply #80 on: October 17, 2017, 04:50:41 PM »

Art, didn’t that go all the way up to governor Ryan?  Highway fatality from one of the sold CDL drivers, or something like that.  Seems like the revolving door from the IL governor’s mansion led straight to the penitentiary.  And who could ever forget Blagoivich? 

Fine, fine state that Illinois is!
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PLANKEYE
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« Reply #81 on: October 17, 2017, 06:45:22 PM »

M0HCN

Yea, the licenses are all pretty noddy, but they only form a starting point, setting some very minimal baseline to get on the bands, no big achievement there.

I do not understand the whole pride in having a license thing, pride in being a good operator with a clean station I can see, pride in DXCC or whatever I can see (not something I am interested in, but it is a broad church), pride in having built some neat engineering I can see, but pride in having passed an easy test and gotten a callsign, not so much.....

Regards, Dan.

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PLANKEYE AGAIN HERE


The license isn't to be able to drive a vehicle it's about getting on the air, having fun and fellowship is the main thing here in radio.  We are not talking about a truck drivers license but a ham license.  But I think the post above makes some really good points, the license is pretty noddy and just a starting point.  If you have pride in having built some neat engineering I can see, but pride in having passed an easy test and gotten a callsign, not so much.....     
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N9AOP
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« Reply #82 on: October 19, 2017, 02:43:42 PM »

K9MHZ--Correct, it went to the top man.  Only thing I disagreed with was the fact that it was equipment failure on the truck that caused the fatality not the fact that the driver had a purchased CDL.  The press spun this event into the stratosphere. 
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WB4M
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« Reply #83 on: October 24, 2017, 07:34:47 PM »

I personally witnessed a local VE, change two answers on a General license test so a guy would pass.  I tend to think if the money was right, he would just out-right sell you a license. 

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The VE system is a joke, any one should have realized cheating would occur and I've heard about it many times.
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WB4M
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« Reply #84 on: October 24, 2017, 07:38:15 PM »

I was told years ago, probably mid 80's, that "no General class ham around here can copy CW because a VE signs off on them".   One of the signers owned a very small ham radio/CB store.   Most of those guys are long gone now.
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N0XAX
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« Reply #85 on: December 15, 2017, 11:06:59 PM »

I took both of my tests "legally" and passed them. You know there are some of out here that still have a sense of pride. The tests were not all that hard to pass. I'm now studying for my extra (not just memorizing the answers) and hope I can pass it the first time? If I don't, I will study harder and try again. I've never respected cheaters!! They are a dime a dozen!
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N0TLD
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« Reply #86 on: December 19, 2017, 10:16:49 PM »

Sense of pride, for damned sure. Cheating is for... well, for cheaters! Losers, all.

I took a lonnnnng time, in bits and pieces, studying for my license, and only just last month did I finally find the confidence to take the exams. I walked into the exam room at a local hamfest and 45 minutes later walked out an Extra... and was immediately questioned by a few others there if I had cheated somehow. Apparently it (all three in one testing session) doesn't happen often, according to the VEs there, but I'm not sure why it wouldn't happen often -- anyone can do it if they give themselves the time to study it all.

Sure, I'm a dreaded 'No-Code Extra', I guess... but I know I have a lot to learn and with which to familiarize myself before I feel comfortable keying up on a regular basis.

I guess my point is, cheaters only cheat themselves most of all, when simply doing it the right way is not difficult and is so much more rewarding. Cheaters HAVE no pride, but I do. So I did it the right way.

Now I am working on being a good operator, beginning and ready for all advice and Elmering.

73 de N0TLD
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« Reply #87 on: December 20, 2017, 08:00:06 AM »

 They should hang the cheaters and the ones that helped them cheat up on a tall tree by their little gonads.
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« Reply #88 on: December 20, 2017, 06:34:30 PM »

Generally, reciprocal authority does not apply to the citizens or nationals of the host country. So, in most countries, a national earning a U.S. ticket doesn't get them privileges at home. It could, however, get you reciprocal privileges in the country next door! The UK is an exception to that rule.

Many countries do not offer amateur radio testing on their own, so the U.S. exams are used in their place. They let FCC handle the work of granting a license, and then that license is used as proof of qualifications.

I would not be totally shocked if there were some country someplace where you can buy anything you want.
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WB4M
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« Reply #89 on: March 18, 2018, 12:36:02 PM »

[quote author=WD8T

The fact that we still pretend an amateur radio license is even the least bit challenging and some special accomplishment is testiment to our ignorance of the state of our own hobby.      Pretty sad indeed.
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Oh my..  yes, sad indeed.
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