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Author Topic: Amateur radio is only for rich people  (Read 21515 times)
G3RZP
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« on: January 27, 2012, 02:03:44 AM »

I am told from a non-amateur, non-UK delegate at the WRC, that during discussions about an amateur allocation around 500 kHz, the claim came from one delegate that 'amateur radio is only for rich people'.

Doesn't say much about his knowledge of that on which he apparently wants to legislate. Although I suppose that is not an uncommon phenomena.

But apparently we are all rich. Canot say I'd noticed nor, in my case at least, has my bank manager....
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« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2012, 04:44:23 AM »

I think that representative was just myopic.  He/she sees how much some ham radio rigs cost, and than makes that assumption.  What is NOT seen by them is how much things cost for OTHER hobbies and avocations.

From what I see that statement is a classic case of 'open mouth and insert foot!'   Grin
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« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2012, 05:32:07 AM »

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amateur radio is only for rich people'
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Id better renew my licence then! Grin
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« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2012, 07:28:07 AM »

'amateur radio is only for rich people'.

Monetarily, perhaps some are. However, we are also richer in life and happiness for being part of such a great hobby.
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« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2012, 02:04:35 PM »

All depends on how you define "rich".

73 de Jim, N2EY
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« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2012, 03:10:26 PM »

if im rich then where the hell is all my money....
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« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2012, 04:58:16 PM »

With an investment of under US$200 for a, for example, a Yaesu FT-60R handheld rig, I can talk around my neighborhood ... around Southern California on scores of repeaters ... and around the planet using Echolink - all right out of the box. I also regularly work amateur radio satellites with that "investment" (adding, of course, a little "better" antenna - but if that antenna is my Tape Measure Beam, then I am STILL under US$200 total investment.

OH - I can also monitor local public service frequencies. And monitor AM air band here in the US. ALL at under US$200.

SO ... I am not sure what your buddy has in mind with the hobby. I sure know I am enjoying amateur radio without investing tons of money into equipment.

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« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2012, 02:28:21 AM »

... I sure know I am enjoying amateur radio without investing tons of money into equipment.

Likewise.  Wink
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« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2012, 05:13:15 AM »

It was made by a delegate who is almost certainly a civil servant working for some country's Administration, and having no knowledge of radio. Too many Administrations are now mainly staffed by economists and lawyers who very little about radio.

It's so bad that one European Administration is talking to me about me running an introductory course on radio engineering for these guys!
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« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2012, 03:02:25 PM »

Rich in the spirit of curiosity.
Rich in giving of themselves in emergencies to help those in disaster zones.
Rich in giving advice freely to those wishing to enter the hobby.
Rich in volunteering to take on tasks in administration of the groups furthering our hobby.
Rich in self sufficiency by saving our pennies to buy our own equipment.
Rich in delighting in talking to a new radio friend, no matter his age, nationality, religion or skin color.
Rich in the wonder of trying new ideas, failing, and trying again.

Yes, those who choose this hobby are rich, but money is the least of those riches.

73s
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« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2012, 07:06:49 PM »

Ham radio may need to be concerned.

Marxism is making a huge comeback, even though the Socialist nations of Europe are collapsing from it.

One of their biggest ploys is to label certain things the domain of 'the rich' - even though Ham Radio is nowhere near that. They play upon people's envy, jealousy and attempt to shut down anything they believe to be a threat to their particular worldview. This is how every Marxist regime has been created - pitting rich against poor, young against old, black against white, etc.

When it comes to Ham Radio, the free ability to communicate can be thwarted by such a mindset. Don't think it could never happen to Ham Radio, it can.

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« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2012, 08:28:40 PM »

Right now Ham Radio is socialistic in that it is available to everyone who passes the test -- access is not sold for a profit.  Let's hope it stays that way.  If Amateur Radio was only for the monetarily rich, I would be out of a license.

The fear of Marxism is always stirred up by super rich capitalists when they are afraid they might be asked to return some of their money into the communities from which their wealth is extracted.  (I am not even sure a real socialist could exist in America without being lynched, despite the fact that socialism and democracy are in no way mutually exclusive)

Socrates: He is richest who is content with the least, for content is the wealth of nature.
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« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2012, 01:28:27 AM »

Right now Ham Radio is socialistic in that it is available to everyone who passes the test -- access is not sold for a profit.  Let's hope it stays that way.  If Amateur Radio was only for the monetarily rich, I would be out of a license.

The fear of Marxism is always stirred up by super rich capitalists when they are afraid they might be asked to return some of their money into the communities from which their wealth is extracted.  (I am not even sure a real socialist could exist in America without being lynched, despite the fact that socialism and democracy are in no way mutually exclusive)

Socrates: He is richest who is content with the least, for content is the wealth of nature.

Democracy is a funny beast, the oft quoted greek invention of democracy by placing different colored balls was only for the greeks, not the slaves who did most of the work in the greek city states. Slaves were not allowed to vote.
It seems that modern society is moving back towards that, with the political candidates having the most money (hundreds of millions for an re-election bid !!!) having the best chances.
Hardly an example of egalitarian society at its best, but that is nothing new.

Socrates was also declared a danger to the youth and society and voted to be killed by the massed throng, after which he was led away and given hemlock to drink - an early example of death by lethal cocktail.
Such is the fate of those who draw attention to the hypocrisy and immorality in society, then as now.

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« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2012, 10:54:15 AM »

Right now Ham Radio is socialistic in that it is available to everyone who passes the test -- access is not sold for a profit.  Let's hope it stays that way.  If Amateur Radio was only for the monetarily rich, I would be out of a license.

The fear of Marxism is always stirred up by super rich capitalists when they are afraid they might be asked to return some of their money into the communities from which their wealth is extracted.  (I am not even sure a real socialist could exist in America without being lynched, despite the fact that socialism and democracy are in no way mutually exclusive)

Socrates: He is richest who is content with the least, for content is the wealth of nature.
   Equality is great, except when it comes to money!  One can only be happy economically, if one has more than the other guy.  One can not be rich unless poor people exist, since they are just relative to each other.  The rich need to keep the poor around (and poor), so they can find people who will work for them!
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« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2012, 10:59:14 AM »

Rich?  A kid can start out with a used HT for under $100, and build his own antenna.  Even a used HF rig can be found for only a couple of hundred!  It really don't take that much dough to become a ham!
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