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Author Topic: The new DUC/DDC SunSDR2 transceiver  (Read 57495 times)
NI0Z
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« Reply #45 on: August 13, 2013, 09:27:26 PM »

Are there any US Owners of the SunSDR2?

I am curious if anyone has gotten one yet and what they think of it.
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RN6LHF
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« Reply #46 on: August 14, 2013, 08:01:17 AM »

Are there any US Owners of the SunSDR2?
I am curious if anyone has gotten one yet and what they think of it.
No yet we have no a users in US. We have users in Europe.
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RN6LHF
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« Reply #47 on: October 19, 2013, 04:41:05 AM »

A new version of ExpertSDR2 v.0.7.3 software has been released.

This new version of ExpertSDR2 works in Windows OS (All versions).
You can download ExpertSDR2 in section DOWNLOADS --> Soft & Files in our web-site.
Link: http://sunsdr.com/en/downloads/soft.html
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KE7TMA
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« Reply #48 on: October 19, 2013, 07:07:18 PM »

Dear friends,
We are pleased to invite you to our stand at the Europe's largest amateur radio exhibition HamRadio 2013, June 28 - 30, Friedrichshafen, Germany. You will find us in the hall A1 on the stand 502.
At our stand You can see the new SunSDR2 - DUC/DDC HF/6M/VHF transceiver in full configuration, controlled by our new ExpertSDR2 software and SDR-control panel E-Coder.
You can see and test our equipment, share experiences and get answers to all your questions from our experts.

Features of the new ExpertSDR2 software:
The new own fast DSP core in the ExpertSDR2 and a new GUI.
Supports Windows OS (all versions), Linux OS, MAC OS(in future).
Comfortable user interface, user is long works but his eyes not tire also in the dark.
Two independent receivers with bandwidth of panadapter up to 312 kHz. Can work inside the Nyquist zone 0-80 MHz and 80-160 MHz.
One sub RX for each receiver. (4 receivers in all).
Bandscope with bandwidth up to 80 MHz.
Independent CAT and VAC for each receiver.
Broadcast Wide FM demodulator for FM bands.
Independent IQ recorder for each receiver.
An each receiver and a bandscope can be used on a different displays.

Also a new feature is hardware defined CW core. Monitoring delay in CW in TX mode is 8-10ms, a delay from pushing on Key to transmiting a signal in air is 15-20ms.
Basic info about hardware features on the first page of this thread.

Some pictures with ExpertSDR2 interface.
http://www.cqham.ru/foto/data/500/ESDR21.jpg One receiver
http://www.cqham.ru/foto/data/500/ESDR22.jpg Two receivers, and two sub RX. Vertical.
http://www.cqham.ru/foto/data/500/ESDR23.jpg Two receivers, and two sub RX. Horizontal.
http://www.cqham.ru/foto/data/500/ESDR24.jpg Two receivers, and two sub RX. Different windows.
http://www.cqham.ru/foto/data/500/ESDR25.jpg One receiver and bandscope 80 MHz.
http://www.cqham.ru/foto/data/500/ESDR26.jpg Two receivers and bandscope in different windows.
http://www.cqham.ru/foto/data/500/ESDR27.jpg One receiver, waterfall monohrome
http://www.cqham.ru/foto/data/500/ESDR28.jpg One receiver, waterfall monohrome. Options.
http://www.cqham.ru/foto/data/500/ESDR29.jpg 20meters band, BPSK - high resolution of spectrum (FFT size 16384 or RBW = 2.4Hz)
http://www.cqham.ru/foto/data/500/ESDR210.jpg 40 meters band, CW mode
http://www.cqham.ru/foto/data/500/ESDR211.jpg 40 meters band

Best regards,
Vasily RN6LHF



Thanks Vasily.  It is always good to see a new radio on the market.

I think you could probably sell a lot more of these radios in the USA market (the largest amateur market in the world) if you had a US distributor.  Thanks for your attention to this thread and good luck with your product!
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« Reply #49 on: November 04, 2013, 10:16:59 AM »

To KE7TMA,
Thank you.
At first, Expert Electronics planning to start working with European distributors, and in future with other countries. At the present time we are getting CE certificate.
We must to improve the own software ExpertSDR2, before the start mass selling in all over the world. And all this year was improving the software. Now it has all HAM radio functions and improving every week like a support telnet server from Skimmer (in next release tone 1750Hz  for repeater mode in Europe), CTCSS for VHF, Digi modes, logger, own CW/Digi Skimmer etc..etc. A many plans on future.
73! Vasily
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AB7R
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« Reply #50 on: November 04, 2013, 02:17:04 PM »

Hi Vasiliy.

Can you expand on your own CW/Digi Skimmer feature?

Multiple bands at the same time like the QS1R with Skimmer Server?  What sample rate is the decoding...96kHz, 192, 384?

Is this working now?

THanks
Greg
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K4FMH
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« Reply #51 on: November 04, 2013, 07:18:27 PM »

On US distributors, Grove is closing at the end of this month. You might try Universal Radio or R&L Electronics in Ohio.

73,

Frank
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KE7TMA
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« Reply #52 on: November 04, 2013, 10:09:45 PM »

To KE7TMA,
Thank you.
At first, Expert Electronics planning to start working with European distributors, and in future with other countries. At the present time we are getting CE certificate.
We must to improve the own software ExpertSDR2, before the start mass selling in all over the world. And all this year was improving the software. Now it has all HAM radio functions and improving every week like a support telnet server from Skimmer (in next release tone 1750Hz  for repeater mode in Europe), CTCSS for VHF, Digi modes, logger, own CW/Digi Skimmer etc..etc. A many plans on future.
73! Vasily

Attention to quality in your software is very important, and I am happy to hear that you do not intend to mass market an unfinished product.  There are SDR manufacturers here in the USA that could take a nod from you!

I am very happy to see that ExpertSDR2 has a Linux release.  Hopefully you will compile it for OS X as well, depending on what infrastructure it requires it may be doable in an hour!  Best of luck and good job.
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« Reply #53 on: November 05, 2013, 12:36:06 PM »

Can you expand on your own CW/Digi Skimmer feature?
Multiple bands at the same time like the QS1R with Skimmer Server?  What sample rate is the decoding...96kHz, 192, 384?
Is this working now?
Hi Greg,
It is not working now, it's a future's functions. I think that a works with Digital modes, skimmer for Digi and CW will started in 2014 year. The main plan on this 2013 year - is fully finished a new software ExpertSDR2 with all main HAM functions, and fixing all small bugs if any users find it..
SunSDR2 has two independent receivers with sample rates 40kHz, 80kHz, 160kHz, 312kHz. And one bandscope only for watching(bandwidth up to 80MHz).. I think that bandwidth of decoding will in all the range of each receiver. The optimal firmware in SunSDR2 can give us 4 receivers(no more for this hardware, may be 5 receivers without TX) with maximum sample rate 160kHz. Decoders of CW or Digi modes will inside the ExpertSDR2 software's and no need additional software... like CW Skimmer, because software will have an own Bandmap and logger... Some moments is not clear for us, but it will clear when we will start work in this direction and of cause a users can say us an own opinion, it will a good feedback.

K4FMH, Frank, thank you for the info about distributors. I think this will usefull in next year and we will ask US HAMs about it again. Also we want to visit Hamvention 2014 with our equipment and may be to meet potential distributors...


Attention to quality in your software is very important, and I am happy to hear that you do not intend to mass market an unfinished product.  There are SDR manufacturers here in the USA that could take a nod from you!
I am very happy to see that ExpertSDR2 has a Linux release.  Hopefully you will compile it for OS X as well, depending on what infrastructure it requires it may be doable in an hour!  Best of luck and good job.
Thanks,
Yes, sure, we will release a version software for MAC OS in future. At the present time ExpertSDR2 software versions for Win and Linux absolutly equal in work and have the same appearance. In MAC we have some questions with fonts but it will be solved. ..not in one hour as you wrote, I think within about 4-6 month.

Best 73,
Vasily
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AB7R
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« Reply #54 on: November 06, 2013, 12:30:09 PM »

Thanks Vasily.  Will keep an eye open for the new updates.

Will your remote pod work with other SDR radios?

Greg
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« Reply #55 on: November 06, 2013, 02:16:22 PM »

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Will your remote pod work with other SDR radios?
If you mean E-Coder SDR Control panel, yes, It will work with other SDR radios under PowerSDR control. Because for control we use special own soft "E-Coder Pro" it works with other SDR soft via CAT-interface(COM-port) by PowerSDRs CAT-commands. If user will use any bridge software based on Omny Rig it will work with other SDR-software.
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« Reply #56 on: November 07, 2013, 10:39:57 AM »

What is the cost of the eCoder including shipping to 98277?


Is there a software setup for it to tell it what commands for each control and will it accept macros or is it limited to an individual command?

Sounds like it should also interface with DDUtil?

Greg
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« Reply #57 on: November 12, 2013, 12:03:28 PM »

Delivery cost to 98277 by EMS Post service is 90 USD.

In the E-Coder Pro software you can set for each reprogrammable button any function(about 30 functions) you want. Also user can set for each small knob any function(about 10 function). The main big knob is used for frequency tuning. The E-Coder Pro software is translating all functions to CAT-commands (PowerSDR compatible). It connected to the PowerSDR software via pair of virtual COM-ports.
If you will watch a pictures in the document from this link: http://sunsdr.com/ru/downloads/downloads/doc_download/27----e-coder-pro.html you will understand about I say(the document in Russian).
For translating PowerSDR commands to any transceiver's commands, user have to use "Rig Sync" utility. I don't know may be DDUtil can do it too...
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« Reply #58 on: November 13, 2013, 07:29:23 AM »

These products look amazing.. Using a FPGA for the SDR is the future, and this a great looking product I have seen that does that.

I wish you would break into the US/west EU markets.

The sunsdr2 with HF + VHF transceiver abilities looks very interesting.

Also, you guys should plan on attending Dayton Hamfest asap.
 

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« Reply #59 on: December 06, 2013, 04:00:19 PM »

Why cant Elecraft or Flexradio make something like this?

I would like to see a 200 FET Pre-distortion PA in  a Radio like the SUN. Again we see a demonstrative
 of a radio with an excellent receiver however its transmitter performance does not match the  potential of the receiver. A unhealthy balance between receiver and transmitter performance. When you buy a state of the ART SDR radio you should should expect a transmitter that has better performance than a IC706.

They should be congratulated for using their design talents to produce  a knobbed  SDR radio. When they get fully marketed around the world, this radio is going to be popular.

You have to wonder about the Japanese companies like Yaesu. Their 2 new releases a FTDX1200 and FTDX3000, 2  radios with useless features and performance. All that engineering effort could have produced a  SDR radio like the SUN. I guess they cant do it because they dont have engineering skills and expertise. Maybe they dont want to do it because they good at selling crippled poor performing radios year after year to hams who are stuck in the stone age.


Its could to see the NEW WORLD ORDER finally starting to appear in the ham radio world. Maybe the SUN will set on the age of crap radios with poor transmitters and receivers that costs many times more.

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